Sweet Fellowship: Duggars and Friends (aka the Bates Family and Other Featured Families Thread)

[Mya]

Just now, lianau said:

The Rodrigues family .  Jill Rodrigues , her overweight husband and her 12 starving children .  They have a blog (I can't link to it because my virus program doesn't like them and gives me a phishing warning) and creepy/scary videos on youtube .  The oldest daughter just graduated homeschool and turned 18 and Jill is trying to sell her   find her a good Christian husband .

Thanks so they are friends with Jill?

[doodlebug]

28 minutes ago, Mya said:

Thanks so they are friends with Jill?

They are supposedly friends of the entire Duggar clan and have attended several of the weddings, including Jill Duggar's.

Jill Rodriguez has a blog which she uses to tout their 'ministry' (they sing at fundie churches and her chubby hubby does printing for various fundie causes).  On it, she brags about their close ties to the entire Duggar family including photos of various weddings, etc.  She also is currently marketing her 18 year old daughter Nurie in hopes of getting her married off ASAP.  Google Rodriguez Family Ministries and you'll find it.

JillRod is the product of a strict fundie upbringing and was homeschooled and is now doing the same for her own brood.  Reading the blog is an adventure (!!!!) in PUNCTUATION, capitalization and plain old bad writing. (smile).

Edited June 24, 2017 by doodlebug

[Mya]

4 minutes ago, doodlebug said:

They are supposedly friends of the entire Duggar clan and have attended several of the weddings, including Jill Duggar's.

Jill Roidriguez has a blog which she uses to tout their 'ministry' (they sing at fundie churches and her chubby hubby does printing for various fundie causes).  On it, she brags about their close ties to the entire Duggar family including photos of various weddings, etc.  She also is currently marketing her 18 year old daughter Nurie in hopes of getting her married off ASAP.  Google Rodriguez Family Ministries and you'll find it.

Thank!!!!   sounds super weird will google.

[Sew Sumi]

Facebook page.  They also have a blog, but I forget its name. I know someone else here will supply it. Jill seems to have abandoned it recently in favor of the FB to do Live presentations to sell her Plexus crap. They also have a YouTube (same name, I think) where you can find house tours, makeup tutorials and more! Have fun going down THAT rabbithole. 

[ariel]

29 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Facebook page.  They also have a blog, but I forget its name. I know someone else here will supply it. Jill seems to have abandoned it recently in favor of the FB to do Live presentations to sell her Plexus crap. They also have a YouTube (same name, I think) where you can find house tours, makeup tutorials and more! Have fun going down THAT rabbithole. 

Mr Rodrigues, I'm going to give you a fashion tip.  If you have a "portly" figure, horizontal stripes are not your friend.

[FakeJoshDuggar]

Those Rodriguez kids look emaciated. Even their color looks scary. Someone sneak then a leafy green, pronto. 

[awaken]

Why are those poor girls going with Michael pearl?  That is so worrisome!  

[Temperance]

2 hours ago, awaken said:

Why are those poor girls going with Michael pearl?  That is so worrisome!  

So his wife writes the blanket training books, is there something known about him besides being her husband?

Edited June 24, 2017 by Temperance

[Barb23]

12 hours ago, BitterApple said:

Ewwwww, I'm getting skeevy "FLDS pervert purchases new child brides" vibes from this picture

I was thinking along the lines of a Lifetime movie or Dateline special where they would be held captive in a secret room.    "Sisters disappear, never to be seen again......."

[Churchhoney]

13 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

Facebook page.  They also have a blog, but I forget its name. I know someone else here will supply it. Jill seems to have abandoned it recently in favor of the FB to do Live presentations to sell her Plexus crap. They also have a YouTube (same name, I think) where you can find house tours, makeup tutorials and more! Have fun going down THAT rabbithole. 

iI'm surprised you could forget!  Rodrigues Family Ministries ..... Is there any other name for the horrible stuff these lunatics do? 

http://rodriguesfamilyministries.com/

8 hours ago, Temperance said:

So his wife writes the blanket training books, is there something known about him besides being her husband?

Well, they both write them. Which is probably enough to make most of us loathe him. plus, he seems to be the main driver of their "philosophy" (or whatever the hell it is.) And then of course there's his story of their honeymoon -- which I'd say is a key beef against him, among women, anyway.... -- So I'd say he's likely to preach a lot of submission-to-males to those girls. But in their case, it certainly won't be anything they haven't heard already. 

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/nolongerquivering/2014/07/quoting-quiverfull-michael-and-debi-pearls-honeymoon/

Edited June 24, 2017 by Churchhoney

[abbey]

That honeymoon story was appalling.....Although I shouldn't be surprised.  Anyone who believes in beating babies would have no problem treating his wife like that on their honeymoon. 

[satrunrose]

That may be one of the worst fundie things I ever read, and I've read extracts of Before you Meet Prince Charming, Return of the daughters and books that I randomly picked up about how the bible predicted the soaring price of gas in the 20-00s and cabbage patch kids steal children's souls.  

[Fosca]

It really reads like a parody.  Something right out of "Seven Brides for Seven Brothers" but that was a silly movie from the 1950s set in the 1850s.  And even there the brothers learned better by the end of the movie, but I doubt this guy has.

[sometimesy]

I wonder if that guy that was running a camp to hook up single fundy kids has ever come into Jill's orbit. Remember that guy? The Pearls are bad enough to offer something like this. Maybe skeevy child beater offered to take both girls off her hands to arrange a match between a girl with breasts and a godly parent worshipping male. The rule was they must get married because they must obey their parents, and they offered to take the parents place if the mom and dad were too busy to bother with choosing a spouse for their child. 

[Jynnan tonnix]

2 hours ago, Fosca said:

It really reads like a parody.  Something right out of "Seven Brides for Seven Brothers" but that was a silly movie from the 1950s set in the 1850s.  And even there the brothers learned better by the end of the movie, but I doubt this guy has.

I was going to second the opinion that it reads like a parody...I just can't quite wrap my head around it...Does the story continue? Is there any sense that this was taken out of context and he later goes on to say that his wife made him understand her frustration? Not that I necessarily expect there to be, given that these people beat babies. I can't wrap my head around that either. It's literally more than I can believe to think that all the bits and pieces I've read about the Pearls are not somehow taken out of context, and they are not as bad as they are made out to be. But I suppose there really are some monsters out there...

[Mojitogirl]

I can't. I mean, I have no words. They protect their daughter from people like ME and then hand them over to people like THEM. I pray that God protects them because they certainly didn't ask to be born into this. 

[Arwen Evenstar]

27 minutes ago, Mojitogirl said:

I can't. I mean, I have no words. They protect their daughter from people like ME and then hand them over to people like THEM. I pray that God protects them because they certainly didn't ask to be born into this. 

THIS!!!

[Churchhoney]

3 hours ago, Jynnan tonnix said:

I was going to second the opinion that it reads like a parody...I just can't quite wrap my head around it...Does the story continue? Is there any sense that this was taken out of context and he later goes on to say that his wife made him understand her frustration? Not that I necessarily expect there to be, given that these people beat babies. I can't wrap my head around that either. It's literally more than I can believe to think that all the bits and pieces I've read about the Pearls are not somehow taken out of context, and they are not as bad as they are made out to be. But I suppose there really are some monsters out there...

Nope. He stands by every dumb thing he ever thought. That's how big his ego is. 

[Churchhoney]

3 hours ago, Jynnan tonnix said:

I was going to second the opinion that it reads like a parody...I just can't quite wrap my head around it...Does the story continue? Is there any sense that this was taken out of context and he later goes on to say that his wife made him understand her frustration? Not that I necessarily expect there to be, given that these people beat babies. I can't wrap my head around that either. It's literally more than I can believe to think that all the bits and pieces I've read about the Pearls are not somehow taken out of context, and they are not as bad as they are made out to be. But I suppose there really are some monsters out there...

Well, this isn't the honeymoon story. But it is the "child training philosophy." So if you think you can stomach it, knock yourself out at the Wayback Machine -- 

http://web.archive.org/web/20101103070349/http://www.achristianhome.com/to_train_up_a_child.htm

[BitterApple]

After reading that horrific honeymoon story, I feel like a piece of shit for all the times I got pissy with Mr. Bitter Apple for leaving wet towels on the floor or forgetting something at the grocery store. That Pearl guy is an abusive asshole.

Edited June 24, 2017 by BitterApple

[satrunrose]

And seriously, how the hell can you chastise women for showing too much clavicle and then describe, in detail, on a blog, how many times you had sex with your wife on your honeymoon INCLUDING the effect on her vagina??? Didn't Jesus say something about taking the log our of your own eye before you comment on the mote in someone else's?

[wait.what]

Wait, what? There's a blog about their honeymoon? And her VAGINA? 

WTH?

[Obsidian]

Scroll up a bit, and there's a link to his recount of their honeymoon. He sounds worse than Josh. Edit: as far as entitled and thoughtless pigs of husbands go.

Edited June 24, 2017 by Obsidian

[kokapetl]

22 hours ago, Jenniferbug said:

Wow. I'm seriously hoping the Duggar boys pity marry those 2 girls to save them from their nightmare parents. Who's up? Josiah? One of the twins? And you know its messed up that we all think the Duggar are a safer, kinder, healthier place for these poor girls. Come on, Jim Bob, double wedding! 

Counselor Troi needs an imzadi. 

[Mollie]

To see Michael Pearl in action, watch this beginning at 2:00 minutes in:

[tabloidlover]

What a jackass.  Clearly it is ALL about him ALL the time.

[Celia Rubenstein]

Oh my god he is even worse than I imagined!  And he sounds just like Charles Manson when he talks.  

PSYCHO!  

As bad as he was, the worse part was all the applause at the end. SICKOS!

[ChiCricket]

10 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

iI'm surprised you could forget!  Rodrigues Family Ministries ..... Is there any other name for the horrible stuff these lunatics do? 

http://rodriguesfamilyministries.com/

Well, they both write them. Which is probably enough to make most of us loathe him. plus, he seems to be the main driver of their "philosophy" (or whatever the hell it is.) And then of course there's his story of their honeymoon -- which I'd say is a key beef against him, among women, anyway.... -- So I'd say he's likely to preach a lot of submission-to-males to those girls. But in their case, it certainly won't be anything they haven't heard already. 

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/nolongerquivering/2014/07/quoting-quiverfull-michael-and-debi-pearls-honeymoon/

OMGosh ....did the guy really act like that on his honeymoon?! What a CREEP

Edited June 25, 2017 by ChiCricket
'Cuz saw someone else already called him an asshole

[ozziemom]

That was awful, she is as bad as he is. He was really enjoying hitting the doll, imagine his pleasure when it's a child. Apparently mothers have to go along and not even look sympathetic, that would undermine the fathers authority, sick! It seemed like the audience was having a grand time too, a real bunch of nuts.

[SMama]

But of course Boob and Mullet never engaged in that sort of discipline. They are certain we all know that because they deleted their reference to the Pearl monsters from their website.  In Touch lawyers, make sure to grill them about their discipline. It was on those reports the four are suing about. Why ask? Because more people need to know about this awful cult. 

[Annb67]

6 hours ago, Mojitogirl said:

I can't. I mean, I have no words. They protect their daughter from people like ME and then hand them over to people like THEM. I pray that God protects them because they certainly didn't ask to be born into this. 

This is abusive, horrific, disgusting. These people and their ilk are pieces of shit!

[Churchhoney]

2 hours ago, Obsidian said:

Scroll up a bit, and there's a link to his recount of their honeymoon. He sounds worse than Josh. Edit: as far as entitled and thoughtless pigs of husbands go.

And he's someone who was admired by the Duggar parents once upon a time, at least, as he's greatly admired by many others in this crowd. So when you wonder where Josh would get the idea that a lot of things are okay .... Well, there's this guy....and the Gothard teachings. ... etc. 

[ginger90]

Michelle's words back in the day "The first time I say it, you obey it." (or something very similar)

I don't know what children it applied to, but I recall Michelle saying she would have a child in a chair, and tell them they had to sit still and be quiet. She says she sat next to them. She started at 5 minutes, and increased the time. That's what I recall.

 

ETA I put that quote in google and found this , Quiet and Still (2012)

http://www.duggarfamilyblog.com/2012/01/quiet-and-still-teaching-self-control.html

Edited June 25, 2017 by ginger90

[Arwen Evenstar]

43 minutes ago, Annb67 said:

This is abusive, horrific, disgusting. These people and their ilk are pieces of shit!

That was disturbing beyond words.

[McManda]

11 hours ago, Fosca said:

It really reads like a parody.  Something right out of "Seven Brides for Seven Brothers" but that was a silly movie from the 1950s set in the 1850s.  And even there the brothers learned better by the end of the movie, but I doubt this guy has.

At least Adam just really wanted a maid and a cook and Milly was strong enough to stand up for herself AND teach them god-fearin' menfolk about manners and etiquette. Pearl sounds like he just wants a sex doll that is also able to make him a sandwich. Blech.

Sidenote: I've always made it a personal mission to try to be like Milly. She was strong and assertive and made her own decisions and didn't take lip or orders from any man. I always respected that. 

[Lunera]

http://brandonandmichaela.com/2017/06/25/learning-to-trust/

Michael talks about her infertility. 

[Sew Sumi]

No mention of getting Brandon tested. Not surprised. 

[FakeJoshDuggar]

Sky Man won't give me a baby, so trust Sky Man more. If Sky Man does not give me the baby I want, it's Sky Man's plan. If Sky Man does give me the baby I want, it's Sky Man's Plan. 

 

Mental gymnastics, that one.  

[Catfin]

Sisters in Snarkdom: behold! I bring you tidings from St. Bonifacius, MN, home of the MN campus of Clown College. 

 

DD  and I drove past on the way to a softball tournament. I had her snap a shot while I cackled hysterically. 

[BitterApple]

Poor Michael. Brandon definitely needs to get tested, but from the wording of her blog, the issue's on her end.

[Nysha]

37 minutes ago, FakeJoshDuggar said:

Sky Man won't give me a baby, so trust Sky Man more. If Sky Man does not give me the baby I want, it's Sky Man's plan. If Sky Man does give me the baby I want, it's Sky Man's Plan. 

 

Mental gymnastics, that one.  

That is the basis of Christianity. One prays to the Sky Man and Sky Man has three answers: yes, no, or wait. One is just as blessed by no or wait, as one is by yes. In all things, the Sky Man must be praised because he is all seeing and all knowing. If the Sky Man does not give one a baby, it is because the Sky Man knows what is best for one and one must praise him for his compassionate decision.

[Sew Sumi]

14 minutes ago, Nysha said:

Because they have been criticized for isolating their children and this is proof that at least one of them is allowed to socialize with someone who's last name is not Duggar. Oh, and lying just comes naturally to these people. They've been misrepresenting their family for so long, they don't even have to think about it anymore.

It was a bible basketball camp. Several Howlers were there along with Boob and pilot JD. Bateses also attended iwth Gil. So, it's not like they were associaating with "regular" people. Sounds like an ATI sponsored event, as they try to branch out in their attempt to appear more "mainstream." 

This was the Bateses' post about the camp. Funny that they talk like they've been there for years, when not that long ago on the show, they went to a camp in TN, only becasue Bobby was a counselor. 

Edited June 25, 2017 by Sew Sumi

[Annb67]

11 hours ago, Mollie said:

To see Michael Pearl in action, watch this beginning at 2:00 minutes in:

Oh my god. His poor kids. I'm literally in tears. What a disgusting piece of shit.

Edited June 25, 2017 by Annb67

[Annb67]

4 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

It was a bible basketball camp. Several Howlers were there along with Boob and pilot JD. Bateses also attended iwth Gil. So, it's not like they were associaating with "regular" people. Sounds like an ATI sponsored event, as they try to branch out in their attempt to appear more "mainstream." 

This was the Bateses' post about the camp. Funny that they talk like they've been there for years, when not that long ago on the show, they went to a camp in TN, only becasue Bobby was a counselor. 

Oh yeah, the messages. Because every teenage boy i know loves to go to sports camp and hear preaching?

[riverblue22]

2 hours ago, Annb67 said:

This was the Bateses' post about the camp. Funny that they talk like they've been there for years, when not that long ago on the show, they went to a camp in TN, only becasue Bobby was a counselor. 

 

The Bates family attended this camp last year.  Warden turned out to be quite good at basketball and all of the boys loved it.  They came home and built a basketball court in their backyard.

[GeeGolly]

I can't help but have empathy for Michael or any person facing fertility issues when wanting a baby. My sister tried for years and was unsuccessful. I wouldn't wish that on anyone. And poor Michael was raised as seeing that as the end goal. My heart aches for her.

[riverblue22]

8 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

No mention of getting Brandon tested. Not surprised. 

Wouldn't fertility specialists require that before they put Michaela through all sorts of tests?

[GeeGolly]

2 minutes ago, riverblue22 said:

Wouldn't fertility specialists require that before they put Michaela through all sorts of tests?

Good question. However, would they do this? Wouldn't they have to work around the whole "spilling seed" belief?

[GeeGolly]

Did anyone else notice what is printed on the ball?

[SMama]

Evolution for them = Intelligent design