Michelle and JimBob aka J'Chelle and Boob

[sarasue59]

Why isn't J-Chelle holding Garret and Gideon instead of Boob?  He looks awkward holding them, and She IS mother of the year, after all, lol!

[Portia]

Poor Israel always looks off to me. Like, you know, not very smart. The videos I've seen of him don't confirm any cognitive problems, but I can't look at him without thinking, "Bless his heart."

[Ijustwantsomechips]

4 hours ago, sarasue59 said:

Why isn't J-Chelle holding Garret and Gideon instead of Boob?  He looks awkward holding them, and She IS mother of the year, after all, lol!

In all fairness I’d rather it be Jim Bob than Michelle. At least he has some interaction with his kids, even if it is awkward.  And you know, Michelle’s missing back muscle.

 

5 hours ago, Nysha said:

I think the awkwardness is due to anxiety from being harshly disciplined. He's still just a little guy, but his parents have deemed him a manipulative sinner since birth and acted accordingly. My bet is he rarely knows what he is going to get in trouble for, so a lot of his energy is spent trying to mind read his parents so he doesn't get punished. 

I read that last sentence as “so he doesn’t get punched” which probably isn’t too far off.  

Edited July 12, 2018 by Ijustwantsomechips

[mimionthebeach]

12 hours ago, Heathen said:

Not quite two years. They're the closest in age of Ofsmuggar's kids -- Mackynzie was born in October 2009 and Michael in June 2011. There was also an alleged miscarriage (probably more like a late period) between them. 

Since Michael, Ofsmuggar has had babies roughly two years apart -- Marcus in June 2013, Meredith (I always want to say Mereditz, and that's just wrong) in July 2015, and Mason in September 2017. I wonder if there was another miscarriage after Meredith, or if something else delayed the inevitable M5. 

That would be Jesus Jail.

(ETA: Doodlebug FTW)

Edited July 12, 2018 by mimionthebeach

[Heathen]

38 minutes ago, mimionthebeach said:

That would be Jesus Jail.

(ETA: Doodlebug FTW)

No conjugal visits? 

[Heathen]

3 hours ago, dargosmydaddy said:

I (and the original poster I was responding to) was talking about Meredith and Mason, not Mackynzie and Michael.

I definitely would not want to pose a photo that included (I think?) seven kids under the age of three and only two adults (plus four other kids who aren't particularly old), but was this really the best they could do? Even the adults have their eyes closed. And why couldn't Michael or Israel hold or help prop up whichever baby is next to Michelle? I mean, this definitely looks more like an outtake than the single best picture you'd choose to show off on your website.

Forgive me. I was overtired. 

[sarasue59]

3 hours ago, Ijustwantsomechips said:

In all fairness I’d rather it be Jim Bob than Michelle. At least he has som interaction with his kids, even if it is awkward.  And you know, Michelle’s missing back muscle.

 

I read that last sentence as “so he doesn’t get punched” which probably isn’t too far off.  

Yeah, I forgot about her missing muscle.  Jana must not have been available, lol!  Jim Blob will do in a pinch.

[Abstract]

To me, Israel just seems like a kid who’s tall for his age and awkward from having whackadoo parents and no life outside the compound. Hopefully he’s at least allowed to go to Sunday School and VBS at Cross Church.

[GeeGolly]

Spurgie didn't get the blue theme memo? The picture was probably taken after some Fundy wedding and the kids are like, hurry up, I need some food.

Michelle is probably cringing inside with Henry pitching a fit. I remember a scene, at one Jgirl's wedding maybe, where McKenzie was not wanting pictures. Michelle took her aside and said something and she took the picture. What I found really interesting was Anna was watching carefully, almost like she was worried as to how Michelle was going to handle it.

Henry probably got a lecture from his grandma about instant obedience after this photo session. 

And I agree with you all about Iz and Sam. Those poor kids retreat into their own heads and just exist, because doing otherwise gets them in trouble.

Edited July 14, 2018 by GeeGolly

[Temperance]

Henry looks like he's falling down to me and not "pitching a fit" (assuming that's the right photo). 

[irisheyes]

On 7/12/2018 at 11:44 AM, Ijustwantsomechips said:

While I loathe Smuggar and Ofsmuggar’s beliefs and politics, their kids are dressed cute and appear to be well cared for.   They have full, rosy cheeks and clean hair.  Someone’s loving on them daily.  

Anna seems like a really good mom. I think she tries to do fun things with them (she posted a Valentine’s breakfast she made for the kids), plus I think she is actually trying to do a good job homeschooling the kids. 

[DragonFaerie]

On July 11, 2018 at 5:19 PM, ginger90 said:

Posted on DFO:

I love how most of the kids are I'm out of here or just like, take the photo and get this over with.  Who wears hose in Arkansas in the summer? seriously?  I'm hoping Garrett pooped on Grandpa and that's why Me'chelle is laughing.

[Heathen]

4 hours ago, DragonFaerie said:

Who wears hose in Arkansas in the summer? seriously?  I'm hoping 

I would, if I had to wear skirts or dresses exclusively (but I wouldn't wear almost-black color). I'm white enough to glow in the dark. Michelle might have spider veins and varicose veins galore, too. 

[Sew Sumi]

She wore sheer hose (or both hose at all) to Josiah's wedding. Black hose with that horrific dress would have been her biggest fashion fail to date, topping even the tin man monstosity.

Edited July 17, 2018 by Sew Sumi

[Ohiopirate02]

13 hours ago, DragonFaerie said:

I love how most of the kids are I'm out of here or just like, take the photo and get this over with.  Who wears hose in Arkansas in the summer? seriously?  I'm hoping Garrett pooped on Grandpa and that's why Me'chelle is laughing.

My mother wears compression hose daily even during the summer in NC.  She wears thigh highs and not full on pantyhose.  They are not as hot as you imagine, and they help alleviate the pain of her condition.  

[Minivanessa]

17 hours ago, DragonFaerie said:

 Who wears hose in Arkansas in the summer? seriously?  I

 

12 hours ago, Heathen said:

I would, if I had to wear skirts or dresses exclusively (but I wouldn't wear almost-black color). I'm white enough to glow in the dark. Michelle might have spider veins and varicose veins galore, too. 

Yep. If I had to wear a dress to a wedding I'd wear stockings too, because super-white legs and spider veins.

3 hours ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

My mother wears compression hose daily even during the summer in NC.  She wears thigh highs and not full on pantyhose.  They are not as hot as you imagine, and they help alleviate the pain of her condition.  

I can believe that Michelle might need support/compression stockings after all those pregnancies. Plenty of people her age do even if they have never been pregnant. 

Edited July 17, 2018 by Jeeves
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[Temperance]

Today is JB's birthday. I remember this, because it's someone's I know personally who is like JB. 

Edited July 18, 2018 by Temperance

[DragonFaerie]

Once again I learn something new here.  The only compression stockings I was familiar with were the ones my grandmother and father wore - both glow in the dark white.  Until everyone here starting talking about them and I googled them and low and behold, you can now get compression stockings in the regular hose colors - I had no idea!

I was just shocked at stockings in the summer because last year I attended a family wedding in TN in the summer and only 2 people were wearing hose - one a lady a couple of years younger than me and her 14 year old daughter.  That was it.  Not even the mother's of the bride and groom wore hose, so I was shocked that Me'chelle was wearing them.   Frankly I would rather be covered in honey and a few fire ants than wear those things but then I literally break out into hive when I do, so that's just me.

[Minivanessa]

3 hours ago, DragonFaerie said:

Once again I learn something new here.  The only compression stockings I was familiar with were the ones my grandmother and father wore - both glow in the dark white.  Until everyone here starting talking about them and I googled them and low and behold, you can now get compression stockings in the regular hose colors - I had no idea!

Yep. There are compression stockings, and compression socks. And there are different strengths of compression, from the heavy-duty kind that are damn near impossible to put on and remove, to lighter compression that's often used in socks/tights for athletic wear these days. My "regular" socks are knee-highs made by Sockwell with some compression. They look like regular socks, a wool/rayon/spandex blend that's really comfortable. I bought a couple of pair a few years ago to wear on a transatlantic flight, and liked them so much I bought more, and don't even own any non-compression knee high socks now.

Obviously, support/compression stockings (hose) are going to be thicker than regular stockings, and I wouldn't want to wear them in summer in Arkansas! At least MEchelle didn't wear the black stockings and witch shoes to the latest wedding, although her dress and hair were typical Duggar fashion tragedies.

[Portia]

I wonder why she hasn't had surgery for her varicose veins. I finally went to see a vein specialist a couple of weeks ago, and now I wish I'd gone years ago. The surgery is going to be a piece of cake--they call in "lunch hour surgery" because you can literally go back to work later in the day if you want to.  I'll have to jump through a couple of hoops in order to get insurance approval, but it is going to be covered.  BTW, three closely-spaced pregnancies were enough to screw with my veins; I can only imagine what mine would be like if I'd spent 14 years of my life being pregnant.

Personally, I wore hose all summer long when I lived in Arkansas because I liked the way they looked and I am not terribly hot-natured. There were enough women also wearing them that I didn't feel like I was the only one.  It wasn't until I moved to Alabama that I reluctantly ditched the hose because literally NO ONE wears them here.

[Fuzzysox]

Long ago when I worked I used to wear L'eggs Sheer Energy hose. They really made a huge difference if you were working on your feet all day. I haven't worn hose in years except for my Uncle's funeral. 

[ginger90]

[Rabbittron]

14 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

OMG Blob must be very special they actually went out to a restaurant where you don't get anything free for your birthday Cracker Barrel.

[lookeyloo]

7 hours ago, Portia said:

I wonder why she hasn't had surgery for her varicose veins. I finally went to see a vein specialist a couple of weeks ago, and now I wish I'd gone years ago. The surgery is going to be a piece of cake--they call in "lunch hour surgery" because you can literally go back to work later in the day if you want to.  I'll have to jump through a couple of hoops in order to get insurance approval, but it is going to be covered.  BTW, three closely-spaced pregnancies were enough to screw with my veins; I can only imagine what mine would be like if I'd spent 14 years of my life being pregnant.

Personally, I wore hose all summer long when I lived in Arkansas because I liked the way they looked and I am not terribly hot-natured. There were enough women also wearing them that I didn't feel like I was the only one.  It wasn't until I moved to Alabama that I reluctantly ditched the hose because literally NO ONE wears them here.

Good for you!  Daughter in law, after 3 pregnancies really suffered with the veins.  Had that surgery and now she wears shorts and isn't in pain anymore.  Said it was very easy. 

[graefin]

Now that I've seen Michelle in her wedding attire "live" via the TLC video, I want to say she looked like she belonged at her junior prom, not at her son's wedding.

Oh, and of course she felt no need to add anything personally meaningful to mark the occasion since she could simply recite the same worn, old script that she uses for every child: "It seems like just yesterday he was born, and now here he is getting married!"

Edited July 18, 2018 by graefin

[DragonFaerie]

2 minutes ago, graefin said:

Now that I've seen Michelle in her wedding attire "live" via the TLC video, I want to say she looked like she belonged at her junior prom, not at her son's wedding.

Everytime I see her in that dress my brain switches between "We are the lollypop kids!" from the munchins in Wiz of Oz and Hee Haw "I'm a pickin! and I'm a grinnin!"  I need more rum.

[Mollie]

11 minutes ago, graefin said:

Now that I've seen Michelle in her wedding attire "live" via the TLC video, I want to say she looked like she belonged at her junior prom, not at her son's wedding.

Oh, and of course she felt no need to add anything personally meaningful to mark the occasion since she could simply recite the same worn, old script that she uses for every child: "It seems like just yesterday he was born, and now here he is getting married!"

That's because she can't remember anything about his life for the past 21 years.  He's just number 8 out of 19 kids.  

[GeeGolly]

14 minutes ago, Mollie said:

That's because she can't remember anything about his life for the past 21 years.  He's just number 8 out of 19 kids.  

Yup, all her kids blend together between 6 months and courting. She tunes out at 6 months and 1 day and tunes back in when they show interest in a relationship.

[GleamingMist]

When I saw the caption for JB's birthday they posted on the official Duggar page my first thought was "the only hat that describes that man is an asshat."

[kokapetl]

[DragonFaerie]

On July 18, 2018 at 11:21 AM, ginger90 said:

So in the top photo at table #1 where Austin is (ok, first smack the crap out of him for wearing a baseball cap to the table) but where is Giddyup?  That said, where are Mason, Sammy, Garrett, Spurge, Henry, Izzy????   But the more important question is once you see Smugger, and throw up a little bit, move past him and at the end of the table on his side is that a Sinner twin with a Blonde FEMALE???  Who is this woman?????  Anyone???  Someone please have better readers and zoom than I do!

[ginger90]

7 minutes ago, DragonFaerie said:

So in the top photo at table #1 where Austin is (ok, first smack the crap out of him for wearing a baseball cap to the table) but where is Giddyup?  That said, where are Mason, Sammy, Garrett, Spurge, Henry, Izzy????   But the more important question is once you see Smugger, and throw up a little bit, move past him and at the end of the table on his side is that a Sinner twin with a Blonde FEMALE???  Who is this woman?????  Anyone???  Someone please have better readers and zoom than I do!

It gets blurry when I zoom, but could it be Jim Bob’s sister?

[Sew Sumi]

Yeah, I think that's Deanna.

[madpsych78]

I believe it is Deanna as well. 

I think I've got everyone figured out on that table except for the person between Joy and Grandma Mary. I don't think it's a Lost Girl because I think they (and Jackson and Tyler) are all at the table behind them. The table to the far left - JoKen and SiRen.

No Dillards or Seewalds at all. I don't think JD/Abbie were there either. And I think Michelle and Jana were with Jinger. But if Smuggar is there, where is Anna? Perhaps she took the picture?

Edited July 20, 2018 by madpsych78

[Barb23]

I think that's Anna at the table in far corner next to the kids table. 

[Fuzzysox]

No welcome to baby V from ma and pa? I can't believe they aren't all over saying how precious she is blah, blah, blah.

[Nysha]

Looking at the throwback picture, JB looks exactly like his dad who also passed on the balding gene to the majority of his male grandchildren.

[BetyBee]

On 7/18/2018 at 7:58 AM, Portia said:

I wonder why she hasn't had surgery for her varicose veins. I finally went to see a vein specialist a couple of weeks ago, and now I wish I'd gone years ago. The surgery is going to be a piece of cake--they call in "lunch hour surgery" because you can literally go back to work later in the day if you want to.  I'll have to jump through a couple of hoops in order to get insurance approval, but it is going to be covered.  BTW, three closely-spaced pregnancies were enough to screw with my veins; I can only imagine what mine would be like if I'd spent 14 years of my life being pregnant.

Personally, I wore hose all summer long when I lived in Arkansas because I liked the way they looked and I am not terribly hot-natured. There were enough women also wearing them that I didn't feel like I was the only one.  It wasn't until I moved to Alabama that I reluctantly ditched the hose because literally NO ONE wears them here.

I think perhaps Michelle has recently had vein surgery.  It seems like she's ditching the dark hose in the last few photos.

[Caracoa1]

I can't help but wonder.....did Jim Bob the dork get teased in school that he would never get laid and hence...he has 19 kids?!

[ginger90]

[Heathen]

5 hours ago, Caracoa1 said:

I can't help but wonder.....did Jim Bob the dork get teased in school that he would never get laid and hence...he has 19 kids?!

That would surprise me not one bit. I'm sure that Jim Bob was dorky even by the standards of a Small Town, Arkansas 1980s Christian school. 

[allonsyalice]

3 hours ago, ginger90 said:

you know, i really can't stand either of these people but every time i see that photo of them at their wedding, I am overly charmed. it's so cute. 

[sixlets]

I do like the wedding photo that gets posted.  I think a lot has to do with the fact that it's the one glimpse into their lives before the crazy (and 19 children) set in.  They are young and dumb but very much in love.  Maybe that's what brought on Michelle's laundry room breakdown.  I sometimes wonder if either of them thinks back to that time of their lives and miss it just a little bit. 

[Scarlett45]

2 hours ago, sixlets said:

I do like the wedding photo that gets posted.  I think a lot has to do with the fact that it's the one glimpse into their lives before the crazy (and 19 children) set in.  They are young and dumb but very much in love.  Maybe that's what brought on Michelle's laundry room breakdown.  I sometimes wonder if either of them thinks back to that time of their lives and miss it just a little bit. 

What I don’t understand, is that after the laundry room breakdown at child 7 (Joe) why they didn’t STOP having children?!!!!!! JB is a lot of things but he does seem to care about Michelle and her well being- why would he say “okay this is too much, we should stop at 7 beautiful healthy children because the care they require is too much for us to deal with TOGETHER”.....no it was “let’s develop a buddy system and make the older kids raise the younger ones”?. 

[McManda]

2 hours ago, allonsyalice said:

you know, i really can't stand either of these people but every time i see that photo of them at their wedding, I am overly charmed. it's so cute. 

I think that was a pretty popular wedding photo pose in the early '80s. My parents had one exactly like it and they got married in '82.

[MichaelaRae]

19 children, Michelle? Is that because you only count J'Caleb and Jubilee as your children when railing against reproductive rights?

[Heathen]

5 minutes ago, MichaelaRae said:

19 children, Michelle? Is that because you only count J'Caleb and Jubilee as your children when railing against reproductive rights?

Ding ding ding...

[Triple P]

4 hours ago, Scarlett45 said:

What I don’t understand, is that after the laundry room breakdown at child 7 (Joe) why they didn’t STOP having children?!!!!!! JB is a lot of things but he does seem to care about Michelle and her well being- why would he say “okay this is too much, we should stop at 7 beautiful healthy children because the care they require is too much for us to deal with TOGETHER”.....no it was “let’s develop a buddy system and make the older kids raise the younger ones”?. 

What I remember from the first special is that they sincerely believed that the miscarriage between the births of Josh and JD/Jana was God's punishment for using birth control. The doctor told them that the birth control pill caused the miscarriage and I think he was the one who brought them to Gothard. The fact that JD and Jana were born after stopping birth control was taken as a sign that God had forgiven them and rewarded their penance with two healthy babies - either JD or Jana is the replacement for the baby that was lost.*

I think that at the time of the breakdown, their religious beliefs were more deeply held than they appear to be now and perhaps they feared disobeying God. On top of that, they had some local fame/notoriety as that big family. JB was building his political career on it. They had been bit by the fame bug before the breakdown. So they had to keep having kids for God, fame, and JB's career.

*I remember this very clearly because I was pregnant with my twins when the first special aired and I felt so bad for JD and Jana and the pressure that must have been placed on him or her as the replacement baby. And smacking my head that Discovery would let them spread misinformation about the birth control pill. 

Edited July 22, 2018 by Triple P

[GeeGolly]

4 hours ago, Triple P said:

What I remember from the first special is that they sincerely believed that the miscarriage between the births of Josh and JD/Jana was God's punishment for using birth control. The doctor told them that the birth control pill caused the miscarriage and I think he was the one who brought them to Gothard. The fact that JD and Jana were born after stopping birth control was taken as a sign that God had forgiven them and rewarded their penance with two healthy babies - either JD or Jana is the replacement for the baby that was lost.*

I think that at the time of the breakdown, their religious beliefs were more deeply held than they appear to be now and perhaps they feared disobeying God. On top of that, they had some local fame/notoriety as that big family. JB was building his political career on it. They had been bit by the fame bug before the breakdown. So they had to keep having kids for God, fame, and JB's career.

*I remember this very clearly because I was pregnant with my twins when the first special aired and I felt so bad for JD and Jana and the pressure that must have been placed on him or her as the replacement baby. And smacking my head that Discovery would let them spread misinformation about the birth control pill. 

 

Well said. The miscarriage and the OB's (incorrect) explanation of blaming birth control pushed JB & M right into the hands of Gothardism. By Joe they were in way too deep.

Had they not had a miscarriage or not seen that particular OB, what might their lives look like now? 

Edited July 22, 2018 by GeeGolly

[ginger90]

From a 2013 article:

 

The laundry room is a big one. Nana helped us with laundry for 13 years, now Grandma Duggar has taken over the majority of washing and drying. But Jinger and Joy-Anna are her sidekicks, so that's the laundry team.