S18.E01: No Such Thing as a Free Lunch

[Scarlett45]

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Christine has moved, but the fallout from her divorce remains; Janelle, Meri and Robyn struggle to plan the upcoming holidays as the family continues to be divided; things get tense when Kody and Christine sit down for the first time since she left.

Air Date: August 20, 2023

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[mythoughtis]

Moving on from  live chat:   Did we make it past thanksgiving of 2021 yet?  

[Meowwww]

Tooooo many commercials.  We saw more commercials than show. 
Robyn with her one ally, Meri….nobody trusts either one of them. And Robyn talked like Kody has no responsibility in cleaning up his anger.  Ugh!!!  What a douchecanoe. 

[Gramto6]

Just missed the cut off on live chat, my comment was:

Just how stupid is Kody really? In the restaurant, when Christine says she'll come from Utah for the holidays, he says in a panic "Do they test there for Covid?" Like it was on the moon or something! Sheesh what an idiot totally obsessed over Covid. I know he was on death's door with a temp of what 99 or something...

[LotusFlower]

 

7 minutes ago, Gramto6 said:

I know he was on death's door with a temp of what 99 or something...

I’m guessing Kody wasn’t vaccinated, which is probably why he got so sick.  (Temp of maybe 100). 

[Adeejay]

I can’t believe Robyn has the gall to say she was blindsided and didn’t see the split between Kody and Christine coming.  Christine had a hard time hiding her feelings and she clearly saw that Kody favored Robyn and her kids above all others.  For example: the first three wives each brought a tradition that was very special to them to the family.   For Christine, it was celebrating Joseph Smith’s birthday.  The very first year after Robyn joined the family, she told Kody she wouldn’t be celebrating it and just like that it was no longer a part of their tradition.  Like Janelle said, when Robyn came into the family, she changed the dynamic.

[Misslindsey]

So if Meri goes to Thanksgiving at Robyn's does she actually get to go inside the house? 

So Kody wants Ysabel and Truly to get tested before they go to his and Robyn's house, but yet he was in Janelle's trailer with her and he was at a restaurant with Christine. Does he not realize that he could get covid and give it to Aurora by his own actions of bouncing around from people to people. 

Everyone here is so much better at the timeline than I am. I noticed Robyn using Leon's dead name, was this before or after Leon went public? 

I could not stop laughing at Kody claiming he was in the fetal position sobbing on the floor when he had covid! Sure Kody.

 

[Lady of nod]

Well as boring as most of that was, I thoroughly enjoyed Christine looking so good I mean leaving Cody was better than Botox. And I couldn’t stop laughing when she was laughing at him about his reaction to being sick. Really Cody? curled up in a fetal position sobbing. What a fucking narcissistic  moron he is. I think there are gonna be some good episodes in the season because I just love watching Janelle and Christine stick it to him and Robin. 

[Art Of Noiz]

My synopsis

Show opens with flashbacks from S 17, New intro. 
Kody rehashes previous season as old often seen family photos are shown. Again.
Janelle summarizes the previous season , then Janelle and Kody shut camper down. 

Christine and Janelle talk about assembling a bookcase. They look at Casita plans instead. They discuss Kodawg. Savannah listens. 

Kodawg tells us how emotionally tender he is.

Robyn explains how horrible everything is. Kody shouts at the camera. His face turns red.

Meri visits Robyn. Robyn loans Meri one of Kody's coats. She deadnames Leon.
Talking head Robyn  explains she is struggling.
(Wild west movie music plays in the background)
Meri talks about turkeys, rice Krispy treats and giggles at her risqué innuendo. 
Robyn says she's depressed.
Christine and Kodawg meet for lunch. Christine is radiant, BTW.
Robyn and Meri discuss their feelings outside on the patio. Robyn tells Meri "like Kody's going through like such a hard time and we need to like really  acknowledge the major weird stuff in his head kinda thing."
She almost cried. Like really sorta wet eyes kinda thing.

Christine meets Kody for lunch. Kodawg says when he had the Covid he was on the floor in a fetal position sobbing. In talking head, Christine giggled. Kody raged.
High drama music played in background played while e2 teasers played. 

 

 

[Elizzikra]

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For Christine, it was celebrating Joseph Smith’s birthday.  The very first year after Robyn joined the family, she told Kody she wouldn’t be celebrating it and just like that it was no longer a part of their tradition. 

What was Robyn's stated objection? Even if she didn't think it was important, what was so objectionable that she couldn't go along to keep peace among her sister wives. And it's one more excuse to gather the fambly together.

Edited August 21, 2023 by Elizzikra

[eskimo]

 

Ok, I'm no Meri fan but she made me laugh with 'didn't he sign up to like everybody's turkeys'. Immature, I know. 🤷‍♀️

I have an idea for a drinking game that is safer than what is normally suggested; take a drink every time Kody or Robyn consider anybody else's feelings or perspective. There, everyone is nice and sober and will feel good in the morning. 

[Tuxcat]

I am in shock that the show which is already two years behind, backtracked even more! We already saw Janelle's apartment last season. Now this season, we have to watch her move in? Why?

And the staged reenactments continue to be so very bad. Contrary to popular opinion, I don't even see a reason for Christine to be in Flagstaff or on the show this episode.  Her lunch with Kody - shoulda been an email. Her "visit" with Janelle - completely TLC arranged.

Annoying.

[Celia Rubenstein]

I just rolled my eyes watcing Robyn demand an explanation about whether the Browns were all faking their happiness when she entered the family, or if she just had on blinders.

I guess the Dark Queen can't admit that when she joined the family it actually had a negative effect on things.  No, it was either a big snow job or she was just some poor babe in the woods who was too innocent to perceive the tension between the Brown adults.  She is a victim!  The security she craved has been taken away, the dreams she had are shattered - and it's all everyone else's fault. 

It's not like she joined the family and absorbed a huge amount of financial resources without contributing a thing, increasing the stress level everyone was under and the sense of inequity among the wives.  She didn't cut into the time Kody had to spend with his other wives and children and generate jealousy and resentment.  She didn't set her kids up as victims that needed protection and special treatment at the expense of Kody's other children and his relationship with them.  Nope, none of that happened.  Robyn was tricked by the Browns (just like the father of her children tricked her out of her cookie! ) It's never her fault!

 

 

[Elodia]

That convo in front of Sobyn's Mansion was SO awkward. I literally could feel how uncomfortable those two were, and I'm a few thousand miles away.

And really, Robyn didn't let Meri in her house and she didn't even bother to offer hot coffee or tea or something like that. I wonder what she would have done if Meri needed to go to the bathroom. Would she have let her in or was Meri supposed to do her "business" in the woods?

[ginger90]

6 hours ago, Misslindsey said:

Everyone here is so much better at the timeline than I am. I noticed Robyn using Leon's dead name, was this before or after Leon went public? 

They announced publicly on June 28, 2022.

6 hours ago, Misslindsey said:

I noticed Robyn using Leon's dead name, was this before or after Leon went public? 

 

[Orcinus orca]

OK, so let me get this straight.  We haven't moved on from 2021?  We are seeing crap that's almost 2 years old the end result of which we already know?  Sobyn is sobbin' and Kootie is ranting?  That's the best they could do?

Glad I don't waste brain cells watching this claptrap.  I get all I need from the snarking.

[laurakaye]

8 hours ago, Misslindsey said:

So if Meri goes to Thanksgiving at Robyn's does she actually get to go inside the house? 

Could it be any more obvious that Kody and Robyn don't want the inside of their house filmed?  It's clearly cold outside, but that's where they have to have their talk?  And excuse me but ICK at Robyn folding Meri into Kodork's faux leather coat and Meri asking Robyn to hug her like she's Kody.  You know Meri was smelling her clothes all the way home to see if she could detect if his stank transferred through the coat.  That whole scene was bizarre - and I assume the "no filming inside" was because either Kody was there and didn't want to see Meri, or - more likely - the mazes made from stacks of unopened Amazon boxes make it impossible for anyone to step foot inside without toppling something over.

Also, this:

Kody: I was in the fetal position sobbing my eyes out while I had Covid.

Christine: (tosses her freshly highlighted blonde locks and spontaneously laughs at the mental image) 

Kody: You were always so mean to me.  My gluteus maximus hurt.  I had a temp of 99.999999.  It's not funny.

Christine: (knows she only has to deal with this guy for about 45 minutes before she gets to escape his black hole of an ego)  Not laughing at you.  I'm laughing at how Gwen talks about you behind your back. You should hear her.  More lemon?

Kody: (couch interview, dead eyed) I hate her.  I never want to see her again.  Also I am completely broken that she had the audacity to leave me, even though I treated her like crap.  How dare she?  But I still hate her.  Also, she looks 15 years younger, I wonder why?

 

This show!  WOO HOO it's back!

 

 

Edited August 21, 2023 by laurakaye

[suzeecat]

17 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

You know Meri was smelling her clothes all the way home to see if she could detect if his stank transferred through the coat. 

I would bet that Kody had the jacket dry-cleaned IMMEDIATELY to remove any Meri-ness that may have lingered. 

Much agreement that all the convos were awkward and appeared to be re-enactments. 

I suggest a new title for Kody's thread, or maybe for the show itself -

Kody Brown, Full of Righteous Indignation. 

[65mickey]

Janelle said in 2021 that the property had to be paid off in the spring. So I assume she meant  spring of 2022.  So what happened in the spring of 2022? Did the seller who was carrying the mortgage foreclose? Or did they pay it off?

I noticed how Meri's attitude changed from when Christine left and her talking heads that must have been filmed more recently. 

[Joan of Argh]

I never know where we’re at timeline wise during this show… it’s so annoying

Anyways I have to ask.. when Kody was out to lunch with Christine and blabbering on obsessively about his Covid rules and protecting AROARa was that before or after he attended his friends wedding?

My eyeballs rolled back in their sockets when Meri and Sobyn sat there like 2 frumps on a log gnashing their teeth and lamenting how Kody never smiles or laughs anymore…. He sure looked pretty damn happy at his buddies sock hop.. oops! I mean wedding.. he was grinning from ear to ear and making a giant ass of himself on the dance floor.

[RazzleberryPie]

6 hours ago, Celia Rubenstein said:

I just rolled my eyes watcing Robyn demand an explanation about whether the Browns were all faking their happiness when she entered the family, or if she just had on blinders.

I guess the Dark Queen can't admit that when she joined the family it actually had a negative effect on things.  No, it was either a big snow job or she was just some poor babe in the woods who was too innocent to perceive the tension between the Brown adults.  She is a victim!  The security she craved has been taken away, the dreams she had are shattered - and it's all everyone else's fault. 

It's not like she joined the family and absorbed a huge amount of financial resources without contributing a thing, increasing the stress level everyone was under and the sense of inequity among the wives.  She didn't cut into the time Kody had to spend with his other wives and children and generate jealousy and resentment.  She didn't set her kids up as victims that needed protection and special treatment at the expense of Kody's other children and his relationship with them.  Nope, none of that happened.  Robyn was tricked by the Browns (just like the father of her children tricked her out of her cookie! ) It's never her fault!

 

 

I’ve said for years now, that when the money and attention are gone, or when kody realizes she’s the problem and too old for babies, so he turns on her, that she will say she was lied to, tricked, and abused. When she’s found her next husband/victim, or when one of her kids is comfortable enough to leech off, she’ll be gone. 

9 hours ago, Elizzikra said:

. And it's one more excuse to gather the fambly together.

Robyn always tried her best to keep them all apart while she whined nobody included her or her kids. 

[Shelbie]

Both Kody and Robyn’s talking heads should just be them saying

“It’s all about me. Why won’t the rest of the family acknowledge that it’s all about me “.
They would save so much time because they would each just have to film it once and then endlessly replay it.

[SunnyBeBe]

I LMAO at Meri talking about various types of turkey tastes!  Lol 

So, how long were Janelle and Kody not intimate?  Were they actually having sex at all since they moved to AZ?  

[Quof]

1 hour ago, laurakaye said:

Could it be any more obvious that Kody and Robyn don't want the inside of their house filmed?  It's clearly cold outside, but that's where they have to have their talk?

In the fall of 2021, when this was filmed, TLC probably didn't allow/require its film crews to work in an enclosed space with unvaccinated people.  

[Joan of Argh]

I think Robyn’s greatest source of pleasure was watching the other three grovel, beg and fight each other for a minute of Kodys attention.

Now that’s all gone and all she’s left with is an angry cry baby on the floor in the fetal position sucking his thumb.

[Shauna]

8 hours ago, Tuxcat said:

I am in shock that the show which is already two years behind, backtracked even more! We already saw Janelle's apartment last season. Now this season, we have to watch her move in? Why?

And the staged reenactments continue to be so very bad. Contrary to popular opinion, I don't even see a reason for Christine to be in Flagstaff or on the show this episode.  Her lunch with Kody - shoulda been an email. Her "visit" with Janelle - completely TLC arranged.

Annoying.

The entire show is "arranged".

5 hours ago, Elodia said:

That convo in front of Sobyn's Mansion was SO awkward. I literally could feel how uncomfortable those two were, and I'm a few thousand miles away.

And really, Robyn didn't let Meri in her house and she didn't even bother to offer hot coffee or tea or something like that. I wonder what she would have done if Meri needed to go to the bathroom. Would she have let her in or was Meri supposed to do her "business" in the woods?

I think Robyn is very careful due to Covid and who she lets in the house. If she allowed Meri in, then the entire camera crew would have to go in, too. 

[mythoughtis]

33 minutes ago, Quof said:

In the fall of 2021, when this was filmed, TLC probably didn't allow/require its film crews to work in an enclosed space with unvaccinated people.  

I hadn’t thought about that.  You are probably  correct.  I cannot remember the timeline for vaccination eligibility in fall 2021. My vaccination card is in my wallet in another room.    I do think however that at least the adults were eligible by then.  I think Janelle and those eligible in her family in Flagstaff  were vaccinated. Not sure about toaster adverse Christine and her offspring - who were mostly not in Flagstaff.   Fairly certain Kody and Robyn were not vaccinated.   

Edited August 21, 2023 by mythoughtis

[islandgal140]

This episode did seem like mostly rehash but there were some immensely enjoyable parts like Janelle and Christine talking shit in her apt and Christine saying if Kody can say she is responsible for tearing apart the family, then he is responsible for his shitty relationships w/his kids. 

If Robyn thinks she was depressed in 2021, I'd hate love to see her now.  My guess? Those bills piling up on the counter to be paid are doing nothing but accruing interest and gathering dust and she is in a spiral wearing high water jeans that don't reach her ankles because she can't afford the VS long legged version. 

Losing a 200 lb tumor results in an instant glow up - good to know!

Loving Christine sass and pure joy over not being married to that giant flaming jackass anymore! I hope her only regret is not doing it sooner. 

The only time Kody ever says my house or my kids is when referring to Robyn's residence and her children. 

Another contradiction is Kody telling Janelle not to be an intermediary b/w him and his estranged sons, but that is exactly what he wants. He only doesn't want that now because Janelle isn't on his side. If she was, she would be able to speak on his behalf. 

Nothing is ever Kidney boy's or Sobbin's fault! Nothing! Isn't it awful that Christine's happiness is getting in the way  of Sobbin's dreams of the perfect plural family? Isn't it awful that Christine didn't stay in a loveless, sexless and disrespectful marriage to assuage Kidney boy's ego? 

Robyn dear, you didn't have blinders on. GTFH with that nonsense.  She is a triangulator down to her bone marrow. She knows she is the fave based ONLY on comparison to the other wives.  She had her gold-digging miners hat on and shovel in hand.  She only talked about family and togetherness but all her actions were the complete opposite - divisiveness and selfishness.  She goes on and on about how HER tender aged kids can't go 3 days without their dad, but happily took Kody away from newborn Truely weeks after her birth for a 2 week honeymoon.  Of course, the Browns had issues and fractures in their relationships pre-Robyn. However, she exploited the pre-existing ones and happily created new ones. She never in a million years thought Christine would have the guts to leave. Frankly, I admit that of all the wives, I thought Christine was the true believer and would be the least likely to leave. So happy she proved me wrong. 

Was this episode a little slow? Yes, but the road to just desserts can be slow and winding and I am enjoying the ride. It took 17 friggin' seasons to get here! 1 down, 2 to go. 

Edited August 21, 2023 by islandgal140

[Art Of Noiz]

7 hours ago, Celia Rubenstein said:

I just rolled my eyes watcing Robyn demand an explanation about whether the Browns were all faking their happiness when she entered the family, or if she just had on blinders.

I guess the Dark Queen can't admit that when she joined the family it actually had a negative effect on things.  No, it was either a big snow job or she was just some poor babe in the woods who was too innocent to perceive the tension between the Brown adults.  She is a victim!  The security she craved has been taken away, the dreams she had are shattered - and it's all everyone else's fault. 

It's not like she joined the family and absorbed a huge amount of financial resources without contributing a thing, increasing the stress level everyone was under and the sense of inequity among the wives.  She didn't cut into the time Kody had to spend with his other wives and children and generate jealousy and resentment.  She didn't set her kids up as victims that needed protection and special treatment at the expense of Kody's other children and his relationship with them.  Nope, none of that happened.  Robyn was tricked by the Browns (just like the father of her children tricked her out of her cookie! ) It's never her fault!

 

 

Robyn wondering if she missed faked happiness? Excellent point, too ironic. Didnt Kodawg praise her emotional intelligence?  Didnt the whole family accept her as a great communicator? Holy hell.

[RazzleberryPie]

Robyn is clearly planning her escape route. God help whoever Dayton or her girls marry, bc she’s going to move in and be the MIL from Hades. 

[barshi50]

I get tired of Robin/Kody/Meri saying that Christine left "the family". Last I looked Christine and Janelle had eleven kids between them, plus grands; that would make them "the larger family " . The Robin/Kody section does not constitute the larger family.

But this larger unit, which live mostly away from Flagstaff, should travel to spend the holidays at the Robin/Kody mansion? Why couldn't that AZ group go to` Utah? They could see the kids that they don't see too often.

I know...COVID..

[BAForever]

Haven't watched yet- but have continually wondered that when Kody says to Janelle or Christine ANYTHING about keeping him from kids or poisoning kids against him why don't they say "Kody, you have a phone you call them." Why is it up to the wives to deal with holiday plans? If Kody wants to see his kids, he can call/text/email to find out their plans or make plans.

And damn- I'm in Tulsa area. If I had known about Kody being at a local wedding- I'd have had my bestie creep social media and find out when and where and stalked him.

[Art Of Noiz]

2 minutes ago, BAForever said:

Haven't watched yet- but have continually wondered that when Kody says to Janelle or Christine ANYTHING about keeping him from kids or poisoning kids against him why don't they say "Kody, you have a phone you call them." Why is it up to the wives to deal with holiday plans? If Kody wants to see his kids, he can call/text/email to find out their plans or make plans.

And damn- I'm in Tulsa area. If I had known about Kody being at a local wedding- I'd have had my bestie creep social media and find out when and where and stalked him.

I'm in SW Mo. I'm going to check "sporting" shows here. Big convention centers here, and cheap as I am, I would pay the cover charge!!

[xwordfanatik]

2 hours ago, Joan of Argh said:

I think Robyn’s greatest source of pleasure was watching the other three grovel, beg and fight each other for a minute of Kodys attention.

Now that’s all gone and all she’s left with is an angry cry baby on the floor in the fetal position sucking his thumb.

Ah, what a sweet "pitcher."  Kootie and Ari, the "social lubricant," 🤮, in the fetal position on the floor, sucking their binkys!  

I cannot think of two humans LESS self-aware than Sobbyn and Kootie.  Nothing is EVER their fault, NEVER!  Gawd.

[bichonblitz]

Can't wait for the future scenes of both Meri and Janelle telling Sobbyn and Kidney they are leaving, too. 

For now, Meri is playing the game of wanting to stay and still loving Kidney even admitting she only talks to him once every two weeks. She knows how to play Sobbyn and I think it's hilarious. 

Poor Kidney used to be so carefree, optimistic and happy. Now he's miserable, never smiles, always angry and is on the verge of a breakdown. Karma, baby, Karma. It's beautiful to watch. 

[EarlGreyTea]

You know, life is hard right now. Food prices are out of control. I just paid $1.25 for one peach. Mother Nature is currently kicking our asses all around the country right now. Yesterday the heat index here in my city was 112.

So I don't think it's too much to ask that I get my fucking Sister Wives on Sunday morning, Discovery Plus. Having to wait for the entire episode to drop commercial-free at 10/9c, when I'm already going to sleep, is not it. Y'all are robbing me of the ridiculous amount of joy I get every week from watching Kody being unhappy.

Also, Meri, it's a bit much to be bleating on about how you made a commitment, when you'd have left Kody and the family in two fucking seconds if Sam Cooper had been an actual man.

Edited August 21, 2023 by EarlGreyTea

[Tuxcat]

2 hours ago, islandgal140 said:

This episode did seem like mostly rehash but there were some immensely enjoyable parts like Janelle and Christine talking shit in her apt and Christine saying if Kody can say she is responsible for tearing apart the family, then he is responsible for his shitty relationships w/his kids. 

Perhaps and unpopular opinion but they should not have discussed all that in front of Savannah in my opinion. Savannah can handle it I guess, but my mom never sh*t talked my dad when they were divorced (I already knew he was a jerk). Plus this actually proves Kody correct - and thats something we DONT want. My issue is mainly that all this is done on camera and intentional.

Edited August 21, 2023 by Tuxcat

[suzeecat]

2 hours ago, Shauna said:

The entire show is "arranged".

I think Robyn is very careful due to Covid and who she lets in the house. If she allowed Meri in, then the entire camera crew would have to go in, too. 

Wasn't the infamous rice krispy Thanksgiving turkey episode filmed IN THEIR HOME during COVID?  Also, Kody can come and go as he pleases (i.e. meet Christine in a restaurant), but Robyn can't leave the grounds?  They could've met at Meri's Flagstaff place, or a restaurant.  Whatever.  Maybe Meri thought she could get a glimpse of the ramenhead and Robyn wasn't having it. 

Edited August 21, 2023 by suzeecat

[islandgal140]

I really wished Christine had ordered the large nachos with extra cheese and quac at her dinner with Kody.  That would have been the perfect symmetry for their relationship. 

[General Days]

12 hours ago, Art Of Noiz said:

Meri visits Robyn. Robyn loans Meri one of Kody's coats. She deadnames Leon.
...

Meri talks about turkeys, rice Krispy treats and giggles at her risqué innuendo. 

 

I don't think it counts as deadnaming. Leon wasn't out publicly then, and I don't even know if they were privately out. The episode is set in advance of Christmas 2021.

Meri talking turkey was hilarious.

 

8 hours ago, Elodia said:

That convo in front of Sobyn's Mansion was SO awkward. I literally could feel how uncomfortable those two were, and I'm a few thousand miles away.

And really, Robyn didn't let Meri in her house and she didn't even bother to offer hot coffee or tea or something like that. I wonder what she would have done if Meri needed to go to the bathroom. Would she have let her in or was Meri supposed to do her "business" in the woods?

 

3 hours ago, Quof said:

In the fall of 2021, when this was filmed, TLC probably didn't allow/require its film crews to work in an enclosed space with unvaccinated people.  

I think this is it, and if/that TLC enforced it, it is because the big entertainment-related unions (SAG-AFTRA, IATSE, etc.) demanded it, to protect their membership.

The entertainment industry responded better to Covid than pretty much any other business sector in the US. They were responsible, had science-based protocols (as opposed to protoculls) , they were agile enough to shut down production at the first sign of on-set positives, then open back up safely, and they had strict testing, vaccination, and masking requirements. Of course, a lot of money was at stake, so they were motivated.

I don't like Robyn either, but I don't think she's this terrible hoarder who won't let people in the house, because of her hoarding. I think the boxes people spot in the house are probably a lot of Kody's crap. He's a packrat and a clothes horse, and doesn't have three other wives to store his stuff now. I also think some of it could be the guns and associated wares that he peddles.

And since the kids are home, and Aurora hasn't (at this point) had Covid, I can seen Kody and Robyn not wanting a film crew in their house. Also, the older kids are at an age where they might just be opposed to filming. It's not like they get paid. Why not take it outdoors?

Edited August 21, 2023 by General Days
typo

[Quof]

6 minutes ago, suzeecat said:

Wasn't the infamous rice krispy Thanksgiving turkey episode filmed IN THEIR HOME during COVID

Weren't they still self-taping? 

5 minutes ago, islandgal140 said:

I really wished Christine had ordered the large nachos with extra cheese and quac at her dinner with Kody

Steak and kidney pie

[Booger666]

I don’t follow any of them on SM.  Do they ever post in response to the episodes?

[Mother of Odin]

3 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

I LMAO at Meri talking about various types of turkey tastes!  Lol 

So, how long were Janelle and Kody not intimate?  Were they actually having sex at all since they moved to AZ?  

Last time was when Savannah was conceived. IMO

[laurakaye]

Did I hear Kody right, telling me that his poor widdle feelings are "tender" due to Christine divorcing him?

This guy - he's totally playing at having his tiny heart "tenderized" by Christine so he can stomp around the mansion being awful.  If he's so broken up about her, why did he treat her like crap for 25 years?  What's been smashed to bits is his ego, not his tender man-heart.  This gives him the perfect excuse to vanish from Robyn's clutches for awhile, proclaiming that he's so sad, he needs time, he can't hand-peel Robyn's grapes today or pull Ariabelliobla from the ceiling fixtures.  He's setting up a way to get away from Robyn, just as she's doing the same thing to him.  I wonder which one bails first.

Amazing to think about - Kody has/had four wives and a plethora of pretty amazing children, and he could very likely end up all alone, just sittin' on a "mountain" on Coyote Pass watching the tumbleweeds drift by, wondering how it all went so wrong.

Edited August 21, 2023 by laurakaye

[Shelbie]

I loved Christine flat out laughing at Kody in the restaurant.

Even divorced I think he still expected her to coddle him and be sympathetic. By laughing she said she will never again tiptoe around him and his moods and rules. She is so much happier away from him he was shocked and once again had no idea how to cope.

[Elodia]

Did anyone else notice Kodork's voice had changed? On his TH, his voice sounds like it dropped one octave. Could it be because of testosterone.? I always thought he was on steroids the last few seasons which could explain his temper and rages. 

[Meowwww]

1 minute ago, Elodia said:

Did anyone else notice Kodork's voice had changed? On his TH, his voice sounds like it dropped one octave. Could it be because of testosterone.? I always thought he was on steroids the last few seasons which could explain his temper and rages. 

I noticed this too.  It was noticeably lower 

[laurakaye]

1 minute ago, Elodia said:

Did anyone else notice Kodork's voice had changed? On his TH, his voice sounds like it dropped one octave. Could it be because of testosterone.? I always thought he was on steroids the last few seasons which could explain his temper and rages. 

We know he fancies himself quite the gym rat so it wouldn't surprise me.  But I think when he's doing his TH's solo, he gets to come across as this insane devil-man or whatever he's trying to do.  He probably doesn't get to cosplay as a maniac quite so much when he's with his wimminz....although he certainly came close at the lunch with Christine when she dared to laugh at his miserable slog through what appeared to be a pretty mild case of Covid.

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1 hour ago, EarlGreyTea said:

Also, Meri, it's a bit much to be bleating on about how you made a commitment, when you'd have left Kody and the family in two fucking seconds if Sam Cooper had been an actual man.

Why do they all continue to forget that? Especially Robyn. Are they not allowed to talk about that anymore? Kody never forgave her for that and I don't blame him. He's been done with her ever since that catfishing mess. That is the only defense I will ever have of Kody. 

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2 hours ago, Tuxcat said:

Perhaps and unpopular opinion but they should not have discussed all that in front of Savannah in my opinion. Savannah can handle it I guess, but my mom never sh*t talked my dad when they were divorced (I already knew he was a jerk). Plus this actually proves Kody correct - and thats something we DONT want. My issue is mainly that all this is done on camera and intentional.

I thought Savannah looked uncomfortable when they were talking about her dad. She still loves her dad and shouldn’t have to hear negative things about him from her mom and Christine. My parents divorced when I was a teenager and I always felt confused hearing how my dad was a bad person because I loved him and didn’t want to take sides.