S17.E07: The Failed Priest

[Scarlett45]

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Kody feels conflicted officiating a wedding while going through a divorce; Christine and Janelle are floored as Kody breaks COVID protocols for his friend but not his family; Kody and Christine argue over selling her house and the custody agreement.

Air date: October 23, 2022

[SunnyBeBe]

Man….that was rough.  🥺

[Emmeline]

Christine should shake up Kody’s game and ask for child support.

[SunnyBeBe]

3 minutes ago, Emmeline said:

Christine should shake up Kody’s game and ask for child support.

I suspected that’s why he wants the 50/50 physical custody in writing.  That arrangement results in less support money than a alternating weekend arrangement would offer….at least in my state.  I’m not sure about Utah.  Normally, the home state of the child governs.  And they don’t take ownership of the child.  Even if you don’t have a custodial agreement.  

Edited October 24, 2022 by SunnyBeBe

[Maire]

Kody has been exposed and he can't deal with it. As my grandmother would say, he "doesn't know whether to shit or go blind." And I am here for it! 

[Adeejay]

So, during Covid, Kody officiated a wedding, but it prevented him from being there when Ysabel was having surgery and driving her to college.  This is not surprising.  After all, officiating a wedding puts him at the center of attention. This is not new behavior; it’s Kody we are talking about.  It's abundantly clear that if it’s not all about him, he wants no part of it.

Poor Gabe!  I hated to see him cry.  I believe Robyn is partially responsible for Kody’s relationship with his kids.  I can see her whispering in his ears about how they don’t respect him. Then, she clutches her chest in horror at what is happening.  Never mind that it’s all been of her design, just not execution.

Edited October 24, 2022 by Adeejay

[Ih8kody]

I did not think it was possible to detest this man any more than I already did, yet here I am, hating him more every week!  I’m at the point that if Janelle (who used to be my favorite) doesn’t leave him after the way he is treating her son, I won’t have any respect for her either. Kody is just plain abusive and sadly, Janelle seems to be becoming an enabler. Come on Girl!  I know you are better than this!  And no, you turd with a bad perm, people finally calling you out is not gaslighting you. It’s just finally stating the obvious. You are an ass!

[TeeMo]

Meri bloviating about feeling betrayed by Christine after she spent months thinking she was sending sexy photos of a banana to some rich, handsome tycoon who was going to whisk her away from the Brown family circus was certainly a moment in the previews for next week. 

[hoosiermommy]

Kody says he was surprised Truly was not more broken up because….”I know she loves this house.” Well, at least Kody hasn’t been suffering under the delusion that Truly loves him enough to be broken up about moving away from HIM.

No wonder he doesn’t spend time with Truly. She must scare him with her intelligence.

Kody got a word of the day calendar and a recent entry (which he totally misunderstood) was “gaslighting”. 75% of your marriages suck, Kody. Many of your kids hate you. Maybe it isn’t gaslighting to recognize there is a common thread in all of these relationship is a little troll with curly hair and poor vocabulary.

Truly being “owned” by the state? Is he honestly that stupid to believe that or does he suffer under the delusion everyone else is?

I’m about sick and tired of Kody’s continued refrain about why he didn’t go to Ysabel’s surgery. “I couldn’t leave my family for that long!” As if Ysabel wasn’t his FAMILY. 

[SunnyBeBe]

One good thing I got was the belly laughs at Kody dancing at the wedding.  Omg!  That was bizarre!
 

 I know you all think I’m kidding about his stability being messed up, but I’m really serious.  Something is not right with him.   It’s like he’s taking notes from Ye! (Kanye)  Seriously.  😩

Edited October 24, 2022 by SunnyBeBe

[Ms.Lulu]

It is clear that Truely is a smart kid. This is the most that's she's ever talked.

[Onecattoo]

I have to admit Kody has surpassed my expectations - each week he continues to spout off more crap that only increases the worlds (not just Utahs) utter hatred for him.  

- Kody accusing his teenager of gaslighting him, while in the same episode admitting he’s simply making up stuff to convince Christine she needs to write down he has 50/50 custody of Truly…the child he spends so little time with her mother actually “spiritually divorced” him and nothing changed so she had no idea.  

- Kody who cannot take a week to move one daughter to college because = Covid, but just weeks prior can go spend a week with friends and strangers unmasked and even in the same vehicle, indoor setting (remember at this same time he couldn’t see his kids because he didn’t like doing it outdoors and couldn’t go inside)

- Kody expecting Christine to just hand over the proceeds of the sale of her house to the rest of them, and go off to Utah with no money, in spite of the fact that paying off the property has no benefit to her

- Kody who seems offended that his child (whom he seldom sees) isn’t upset her parents are considered divorced, and of course it has nothing to do with any lack on his part…her mother must have poisoned her against him

Kody has no one but his own actions and words to blame for the state of his relationships with anyone

[65mickey]

The only reason that Kody wants a 50/50 stared custody agreement is to prevent Christine from going after him for child support. Why would the state of Utah get involved and demand a custody agreement between them unless Christine files for some type of assistance after she moves to Utah?  

[Irate Panda]

Janelle’s dogs when they see Robyn just sittin’ there staring at the trailer when Janelle’s not home

[waterytart]

That preview of Kody saying Christine was leaving rather than face responsibility for her actions (I can't remember the exact words he used but something to that effect) made me want to spit nails. For WHAT, you narcissistic cretin??

[CriticalMass]

How did Robyn and Kody provide the down payment for Christine’s house? Where did they get the money? If it’s still one big communal pot does that mean Janelle and Christine own a portion of Chateau Robyn? I want Janelle to make a break for it and write a book on the financial machinations.

Poor Gabe, once again I just want to hug him. 

[maggiegil]

Truely seems like an old soul, she handled this situation in a way that is beyond her years. I hope she finds out that Christine wanted to tell her and Kody was the one that stopped it. Kody being annoyed that she wasn't more devastated at the news was such a scumbag thing for him to be annoyed at.
Kody can't even commit to her having her own room at Robyns, if I wanted to make sure a child was excited to come and stay, I would be decorating that room with their input asap.

Presumably all the TLC money is split into 5 and divided out equally between the 5 adults, why do Robyn and Kody then act as a single unit and give Christine the deposit for her house? Surely Christine after 17 seasons on a tv show has a nest egg, unless Kody isn't being equal with the TLC money.

Kodys actions week after week show why Christine was right to leave him.

[Tuxcat]

As much I think Kody is 100% at fault, and as much as I want to see Christine stick it to him, this episode really makes me so sad for their family. I absolutely understand why Christine is doing the things she's doing and saying the things she's saying, but tbh BOTH of them are acting like children in this situation. The one thing my divorced parents did right was to refrain from letting me see their spite. Kody and Christine spend so much time throwing shade and digs... They need to grow up.

[SunnyBeBe]

20 minutes ago, Tuxcat said:

As much I think Kody is 100% at fault, and as much as I want to see Christine stick it to him, this episode really makes me so sad for their family. I absolutely understand why Christine is doing the things she's doing and saying the things she's saying, but tbh BOTH of them are acting like children in this situation. The one thing my divorced parents did right was to refrain from letting me see their spite. Kody and Christine spend so much time throwing shade and digs... They need to grow up.

Their verbal disparaging remarks about the other are just not good.  No child professional would say that it’s good for the kids.  A judge would not be amused at all.  In fact it’s quite common for a judge to ORDER the parents to not make disparaging remarks about the other within ear shot of the child NOR allow others to do it either.  It doesn’t matter if you’re right or wrong about your contentions.  I guess there’re getting paid to do it….still…..imo, Truely should not have been interviewed by Christine on camera.  It just feels wrong to me.  

Edited October 24, 2022 by SunnyBeBe

[Art Of Noiz]

I'm furious that Kody went to Tulsa in June 2021. He did not wear a mask. Delta strain surged June '21. My town, Springfield, MO is 4 hours from Tulsa on I44. Springfield was on the national news bc of Delta. Ok &TX were two of the stupidest states re: masks. I moved home from SE Ok in May. I was afraid to stop to use the restroom bc if these anti vaxx anti mask fools. 

Then Robyn gets sick? They didn't say it was Covid, but if it was? Kody fucking brought that.

[Gramto6]

OK wait a minute. If Sobbin was in hospital "so sick" why just a mask? Wouldn't she have Oxygen mask on or breathing tubes in her nose?? Something feels phony about that "hospital photo"...

[Aspenglow]

I despise him so much that I truly think that I’ll no longer watch. What a despicable man.

[Gramto6]

9 minutes ago, Aspenglow said:

I despise him so much that I truly think that I’ll no longer watch. What a despicable man.

I was done a few seasons ago. Just come here for the snark, which is more interesting than the show. Wait, does our snark keep it going????

Edited October 24, 2022 by Gramto6

[Aspenglow]

12 minutes ago, Gramto6 said:

I was done a few seasons ago. Just come here for the snark, which is more interesting than the show. Wait, does our snark keep it going????

I started watching again this season because Christine was leaving. But I don’t think I can take watching him, Meri, or Sobyn any longer. I hope Janelle has left, too, but it’s ridiculous how much time has passed since filming. It’s nothing more than a joke at this point- hope the money was worth it. Robyn got what she wanted and Kody has one monogamous marriage. At least the children escaped. 

Edited October 24, 2022 by Aspenglow
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[GeeGolly]

Truely is my favorite Brown. 

[ladyscorpio]

It's so heartbreaking to watch poor Gabe feeling so sad and unwanted. I hate Kody for making his kids feel that way. That's the only dad they have known and he discarded all of them once Sobbyn came in the picture. I really hope Gabe and his siblings can get help or talk to someone so their self esteem won't suffer so bad. It makes me have no respect for Janelle seeing how Kody is treating her kids and she just passivity lets it happen. He's breaking Gabe's heart and I'm sure his other siblings too and she's just okay letting him. I don't get it. I would never let some asshole, even if it is their dad, treat my kids like they're  worthless!! Ever!! Get a backbone Janelle! It's about time Christine did. Now only if Meri and Janelle would. I wonder if Kody ever talks to Leon anymore. I never see him mention anything about them at all on the show. He's clueless why Christine doesn't just stay there??? So is Sobbyn?? Hello dumb asses...Kody spends zero time with any of his kids or wives unless they are the Sobbyn bunch so what the hell is there for these women to stay living like they're  single and watching Kody and Sobbyn have a happy life knowing they will never have that with Kody again. Him and Robyn make my blood boil!!

[gabyzee]

2 hours ago, ladyscorpio said:

II wonder if Kody ever talks to Mariah anymore. I never see him mention anything about her at all on the show. 

They go by Leon or Leo now and have come out as transgender, so best to refer to them by those names. And although the family appeared very supportive throughout their journey, I feel like a lot of the children have fallen off the radar and don't appear on the show (maybe by choice?)

[altopower]

30 minutes ago, gabyzee said:

I feel like a lot of the children have fallen off the radar and don't appear on the show (maybe by choice?)

They grew up under the watchful eye of a TV camera filming them with consent of their parents but not necessarily their own consent. Now that they are adults, they have the power to shut that off. 

[geej]

Does Cody even hear himself say"own", as in the state would OWN Truly? No one OWNs , no state can own a human being. Cody is shit.

[MsMalin]

Before I read anyone else's comments:

Wow, it's all about Kody, isn't it? Even his friends wedding g was all.about him. And what was up with his douchy dancing? He was the only person dancing like some kind of douche clown making it all about him while all of his wives were back home. Did he even ask anyone else besides Robin to go?

Refused to take Ysabel  to college but could go to the wedding.  And btw, nobody said he had to go for the entire 6 weeks.for the surgery.  He could have been there for the first week or 4 days,  hell, even 2 days to show he cared.

Truly is a very articulate 11 year old. I'm impressed.

It doesnt sound to me like his kids are brainwashed. They react to HIM,not what they are told by their moms.

Previews were unbelievable. Looks like Janelle is next to go. If Meri is smart she will go too but I think  unless she finds a new man she will stay forever.

What a cluster this has turned into. Huge failure on what they originally set out to prove.

Edited October 24, 2022 by MsMalin

[hoosiermommy]

1 minute ago, geej said:

Does Cody even hear himself say"own", as in the state would OWN Truly? No one OWNs , no state can own a human being. Cody is shit.

Cody magically got rid of the 13th amendment with that statement. No wonder the Utah government hates him. 😂

[ginger90]

There was no way I was going to  watch anything to do with Kody and that wedding. Thank goodness for the FF option.

[Fosca]

I wonder if Kody said "own" to try to push Christine's buttons; I know the raid on Short Creek in 1953 (where some children were taken away from their parents for years) is a big thing in her family history.  I think she's talked about it before, and that losing her children would be the worst thing ever.  So Kody suggests that if she divorces him, Truely will be "owned" by the state like those former kids were.  Diabolical, if that's why he said it. 

[65mickey]

I really think dumb ass Kody is confusing dying intestate where the state or court appoints an administrator who decides how to distribute the assets with not having a child custody arrangement in place.

When was Kody a minister?  I guess a minister of his own making maybe.

[mythoughtis]

11 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

I really think dumb ass Kody is confusing dying intestate where the state or court appoints an administrator who decides how to distribute the assets with not having a child custody arrangement in place.

When was Kody a minister?  I guess a minister of his own making maybe.

At first I thought he was serious, and was thinking of ward of the state ( which foster children are).  Then in the TH,  he said he got creative about the custody agreement. So he was lying.   Or gaslighting, since he likes that word so well 

Edited October 24, 2022 by mythoughtis

[ginger90]

16 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

When was Kody a minister?  I guess a minister of his own making maybe.

An online certificate I imagine.

[geej]

30 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

I really think dumb ass Kody is confusing dying intestate where the state or court appoints an administrator who decides how to distribute the assets with not having a child custody arrangement in place.

When was Kody a minister?  I guess a minister of his own making maybe.

Mail order minister. edited to add, Opps Ginger , you beat me to it.

Edited October 24, 2022 by geej

[suzeecat]

Ugh, that "wedding".  I would be so embarrassed to have Kody do such a  miserable job and then have it be televised.  However, the bride couldn't keep her eyes off the camera, so I think she was enjoying her few moments of "fame". 

And, everything else that everyone has already said.  Will Kody agree to another season after he sees how thoroughly despicable he is portrayed this season?  Of course, Meri allows herself to be humiliated on the regular, so it really does appear that it's all about the paycheck at this point. 

Edited October 24, 2022 by suzeecat
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[JayDub1987]

I've officiated a few weddings in the past. I thought the entire point was to not make the wedding about yourself when you're an officiant. Must be wrong, because there's no way that Kody could possibly be mistaken. Someone should also tell him his ridiculous dancing looks more like some sort of epileptic fit. I really hope one of his older boys absolutely beats the shit out of him one day. I keep thinking we're probably getting closer to that day coming.

I still laugh at Meri's comments about how Christine is "ruining the family" when everyone knows full well that if "Sam" was actually a guy, Meri would have hopped on her magic cucumber and rode off into the sunset with him. She's just mad that Christine is pulling off what Meri didn't have the (insert produce term here) to do. 

Edited October 24, 2022 by JayDub1987

[GeeGolly]

If nothing else these episodes featuring the Brown marriages shine a light on the many ways relationships are dysfunctional. Each wife has stayed way too long for different reasons. IMO, Christine still loved Kody and was used to the ebb and flow of the marriage and often blamed her jealously getting in the way and it took the pandemic for her to see the full picture. I think Janelle loves Kody and her low self-esteem has (had?) her gaslighting herself about Kody to keep the marriage intact. Meri is harder to figure out. I believe she would have left Kody if Sam was real, but I also think she loves Kody. I find it hard to believe that Meri hasn't had more than a few opportunities in the last 5+ years for a new relationship (yes, really), yet she hasn't had one. Is she now punishing herself by staying? And Robyn, Robyn has only been around for 10 years, the 10 years when everything has been unraveling. As I said in another post, IMO, she's staying for the money and security. Robyn thinks its worth putting up with Kody rather than trying to manage on her own.

One thing all the wives but Robyn share is blaming themselves (Christine is shifting a bit) for much of the dysfunction, which is what plural marriage is set up to do. Robyn not blaming herself for anything reveals she was never really in a plural marriage because once she came along the other marriages slowly died.

[Shelbie]

I must say that Kody never disappoints me. He is an ass and a buffoon.

From the beginning he has been a man with delusions of grandeur. He believes himself to be the wisest man and best husband who ever lived. That his own family refuses to publicly acknowledge this and in fact show him to be the useless idiot he truly is why he seems so deranged this season. He no longer can control what he says and still seems to believe that viewers will be on his side if he keeps talking. 

[laurakaye]

Season 17, episode whatever: "CAN YOU HEAR ME RAGE-TYPING THIS RECAP??!&^%$^"

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Disclaimer: while I enjoy swearing in real life, I am a bit hesitant to post the exact phrases I want to use  when describing my true and honest fillings towards Kody Brown, so henceforth when you see **** in this diatribe, please feel free to insert your choice of descriptors - the more vivid, the better.  I believe we will all be on pretty much the same page going forward.  Thank you.

We begin with **** Kody **** Brown driving solo through the plains of Texas, headed for Tulsa where he is going to officiate his friend’s wedding (apparently, said friend missed the episode where Kody officiated for Maddie and Caleb and made it all about himself).  Kody says how much he enjoys the solitude, and how driving puts him in a meditative state – but he is also ruminating on how Christine completely ruined his life by leaving his ass, so which is it – is he angrily meditating?  I don’t think that’s how it’s supposed to work, ****.  As for that pesky Covid?  It’s fine now, because there are only 11,000 cases in the US so he’s confident he can dodge it with no need for any of Robyn’s Kody’s protoculls.  I did a modicum of research and while he probably wasn’t too far off numbers-wise, it’s still simply fascinating that Mr. Covid-Nineteen Binder Guy is suddenly just dandy with officiating a freaking wedding, the very definition of “crowd of strangers sharing cooties.”  Clearly Robyn gave him the okey-dokey to go, and speaking of Mrs. Binder, she’s nowhere to be seen – Kody says that she couldn’t go because there would be no one to watch the kids…to which I am confused, because Kody and Robyn not only employ a nanny, they also house two adult children who should be more than capable of handling Sol and Ari for a couple of days?  My sense is that Robyn didn’t want to participate in a wedding celebration when 75% of Kody’s marriages are currently circling the toilet like turds.  Robyn gains no points for that decision from me, though.  Everyone knows Kody and Robyn are living monogamously, so her absence is more obvious than her staying home.  And if she sent him off because she wanted some time away from his stupid hair and manic energy?  Tough luck, sister – this is what you wanted.  Have fun, Dark Queen.

Christine tells us how telling Truely about the “divorce” was the hardest conversation she’s ever had to have.  We see Christine and Truely talking things over, and while this chat had a bit of a stilted, re-enactment vibe to it, I am going on record as cementing Truely Brown as my favorite Brownie.  This child is barely 11 and speaks with such eloquence and lucidity, it’s difficult to imagine she’s a child of Kody’s.  Truely explains that she was briefly heartbroken, especially since she now realizes that she was the last to know and she was also the one this divorce and subsequent move would affect the most, but she’s in a good place now and understands.  In her solo interview, she speaks with a particular affect that reminds me strongly of Mykelti, but my goodness – Truely gets her points across with poise belying her age.  She also states that when Kody eventually got around to talking to her, it was basically him saying “So you know?”  To which Truely answered, “Yes” and Kody replied, “OK.”  That sounds about right.  Kody blathers about how disappointed he is that Truely seemed to be so chill about the news that her father was no longer going to be able to see her as much, play with her, take her out for ice cream….oh, wait, no.  He never did those things.  She can’t miss what she's never had.  Kody is upset at Truely’s reaction because he so badly wanted to throw that back on Christine in the form of guilt for crushing her poor little soul, but it turns out, she’s good.  Nice try, you **** *****.  Also, **** you, Kody.

Let’s play a game and tally the Brown kids that Kody has crushed in this episode so far: current count, 1.

Kody is back talking about his officiant gig and man, he is positively GIDDY as he tells us that he can’t write anything down!  He cannot think of what to say!  You guys, he’s blanking on how to sermonize the greatness that is marriage when he’s on the cusp of Christine leaving, so what can he possibly say about marriage that’s positive?  I hope Robyn watches this and beans him over the head with a frying pan but also, she deserves it.  Kody is just so freaking thrilled that he’s going to be the center of attention to a group of unsuspecting wedding guests, he can hardly sit still on the interview couch.  He’s as nervous as a three-legged cat on a hot tin roof!  Once again Kody butchers a turn of phrase, making him look even dumber than he already does every time he opens his stupid mouth.  It’s impressive, actually.

I cringe sooo hard at the wedding footage of Kody stumbling and garbling his way through that ceremony, I almost levitate out of my chair.  He is peacocking SO hard, but then we get to footage of the reception and while I’m sure I don’t have to tell you what we see in this sequence, for those of you who to refuse to watch this train wreck of a show?  I am going to describe it because we should all have to suffer collectively.  Here’s Kody **** Brown, ponytail a’ swinging, suit jacket shed, dancing in the middle of a circle of bewildered guests like he’s chugged 14 Red Bulls.  He then grabs an unsuspecting and likely terrified female and starts spinning her in circles while others watch, unsure whether to step in or not to save her.  THIS is Kody **** Brown, everyone.  Give him an audience of strangers and he’s literally in his glory!  Wives?  Kids?  Who?  Doesn’t matter!  He’s shaking his weave like there’s no tomorrow to the stunned adoring eyes of his public!  Nothing else matters!  Wheeeeeeeee!!!

**** idiot.

Meanwhile, Christine brings us back to reality by describing how utterly crushed and devastated Gwen and Ysabel were to discover that their “father,” who claimed to not be able to speak to them these past 15 months because of Covid, decided that it was just fine to trek to Tulsa to perform a wedding.

Crushed Kids tally: 3.

Now we see Janelle, the “smart” one, who just bought a massive RV and thought that all she’d have to do is park the thing and hook it up, “somehow,” to a mythical power source and she’d be good to go.  She, Kody and Gabe are trying to level this behemoth on the cratered plains of Coyote Pass.  Kody is yelling at Gabe to stop using the “auto-level” and let him figure this out, while Gabe calmly explains that if Kody would shut his trap for 5 seconds Gabe could explain how to make this work, as he’s the only one with more than a minute’s experience trying to get the thing level.  **** Kody **** Brown interviews that Gabe doesn’t know what he’s talking about because Gabe hasn’t read the RV’s manual (and Kody has??  Hahahahahahaha), and that basically, Gabe should really just step back and be quiet.  Whatever Kody is doing is making it worse, and as Janelle tentatively lumbers up the steps the RV, she's probably praying that the thing won’t tip over every time she rolls over in bed.  Gabe interviews that things have not been great between him and Kody ever since their conversation on CP about Kody’s 174-part protocol missive, and here is the part of the show where every single curse word I know and some that I made up on the spot comes into play when Gabe says that he’s not sure what he did wrong.  Half of my vocabulary is aimed at Kody for making his child so upset that he has no relationship with his dad and is blaming himself, while the other half is directed squarely at Janelle for not taking her kids and moving anywhere in the United States not named Flagstaff as soon as she was able to watch for herself that initial exchange between Gabe, Garrison and Kody.  I was profoundly uncomfortable during the entire sequence where Gabe and Kody are together, because it’s crystal clear that Kody sees Gabe as nothing more than a nuisance, while Gabe is desperately trying to engage Kody and get him to listen.  Heart-breaking.

Crushed children tally: 4.

Also in this segment we get a shot of a pensive Robyn, dressed in her finest polyester floral blouse and black slacks, just sittin’ on a red bench on Coyote Pass, pondering about how she likes to come out there and survey her land, decide where to put the moat, etc.  And the funny thing is?  Janelle is living there too!  But every time Robyn comes out there, Janelle is gone!  But if Janelle was home?  Robyn surely would toddle over to say hello!  But – it just never works out!  What a freaking weird, non-sensical and meaningless bit that was…what was the point?  That Robyn’s trying?  Sure, Jan.  Go back to bed, Kody’s almost done hand-peeling your grapes, your majesty.

We wrap this up with Kody telling Christine that A. – she needs to give Kody the proceeds of her eventual house sale so Kody can put it towards paying off Coyote Pass, and B. – that unless Christine agrees to 50/50 custody of Truely, the state of Utah is going to assume ownership of their child, a fact that he himself admits that he pulled out of the “nanosphere.”  Christine calmly assures us in an interview that neither of those things are going to happen and if Kody lawyers up, she will too.  I’m sure she knows, as do we all, that Kody **** Brown is far too lazy and cheap to actually get a lawyer to fight for a kid he barely remembers he even sired, so he’s just a frizzy hairball of empty threats and stupidity.  Christine has gone from keep-sweet whisper wife to a woman who seems eager to burn Kody to the ground, and I am here for it – better late than never, girlfriend. 

So, to recap – 4 crushed children, two segments so supremely uncomfortable that I wanted to punch my tv screen just to remove Kody **** Browns's face from it, and one ex-wife who finally saw the light.

Wow.  I am tired, this was longer than intended.  My fingers hurt from rage-typing.  I need wine and a nap.

Edited October 25, 2022 by laurakaye

[mytmo]

So Kody and Robyn provided the down payment for Christine's house?  Just find it hard to believe.  Yep Christine better lawyer up not just for Truley's custody but for the ownership and sale of the house and Prairie Plague.  No deals can be made with that meglomaniac.

[TeeMo]

Kody keeps blaming Christine and Janelle for turning their kids against him but he conveniently forgets that the Brown kids have an opportunity to see sides of their parents other kids do not thanks to this TV show. They aren’t just getting Christine’s version of the story versus Kody’s version of the story, they also get the TLC version of the story. And it’s clear to anyone who has been watching this show from the beginning that in the case of Christine and Kody, there is one person who truly cares about the family and has tried and tried to make things work for the sake of it and there is one person who hasn’t.

These kids don’t need Christine to “poison” them against Robyn when they can watch years of TLC footage of her manipulative tactics and his favoritism and come to their own conclusions about what is really going on here.

[65mickey]

I am assuming that the wedding was not a polygamous wedding. If it were I would think he might be on a scouting trip for another wife.

[SunnyBeBe]

21 minutes ago, mytmo said:

So Kody and Robyn provided the down payment for Christine's house?  Just find it hard to believe.  Yep Christine better lawyer up not just for Truley's custody but for the ownership and sale of the house and Prairie Plague.  No deals can be made with that meglomaniac.

It is strange, which supports my theory that Kody has one or more wealthy benefactors who have supported him for years.  I wonder how long that will last once they see his progression into absurdity.  It’s beyond concerning. I mean, I never believe reality tv, is real, but this stuff!  You can’t make this stuff up!  

Edited October 24, 2022 by SunnyBeBe

[Elizzikra]

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The only reason that Kody wants a 50/50 stared custody agreement is to prevent Christine from going after him for child support. Why would the state of Utah get involved and demand a custody agreement between them unless Christine files for some type of assistance after she moves to Utah?  

How come none of them realize that, as far as the state is concerned, nothing has changed regarding Truely's custody? Kody and Christine were never legally married, so this divorce has no legal ramifications. Their current "custody" arrangement (e.g. Kody's drive-by fathering of all his children) isn't documented either. 

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So Kody and Robyn provided the down payment for Christine's house?  Just find it hard to believe.

Kody started by saying that Christine couldn't qualify for the mortgage, so he co-signed (which, as head of the family, isn't he responsible for securing housing for ALL of his wives and children). Then he added the bit about providing the downpayment, which I'm not sure I believe. At best, I'd say Christine owes him half of whatever downpayment he made but that's it. I think it's clear that Robyn has more than her fair share in the housing department.

[SunnyBeBe]

44 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

If nothing else these episodes featuring the Brown marriages shine a light on the many ways relationships are dysfunctional. Each wife has stayed way too long for different reasons. IMO, Christine still loved Kody and was used to the ebb and flow of the marriage and often blamed her jealously getting in the way and it took the pandemic for her to see the full picture. I think Janelle loves Kody and her low self-esteem has (had?) her gaslighting herself about Kody to keep the marriage intact. Meri is harder to figure out. I believe she would have left Kody if Sam was real, but I also think she loves Kody. I find it hard to believe that Meri hasn't had more than a few opportunities in the last 5+ years for a new relationship (yes, really), yet she hasn't had one. Is she now punishing herself by staying? And Robyn, Robyn has only been around for 10 years, the 10 years when everything has been unraveling. As I said in another post, IMO, she's staying for the money and security. Robyn thinks its worth putting up with Kody rather than trying to manage on her own.

One thing all the wives but Robyn share is blaming themselves (Christine is shifting a bit) for much of the dysfunction, which is what plural marriage is set up to do. Robyn not blaming herself for anything reveals she was never really in a plural marriage because once she came along the other marriages slowly died.

Meri may have had opportunities for romance for years, however I wonder if the men were able to support Meri’s lifestyle.  She derives a lot of her amusement from her career that’s linked to her online presence.  If she’s off the show, she may lose a lot of exposure.   It seems as if the way things are going, she may lose the show anyway.  

Edited October 24, 2022 by SunnyBeBe

[Yeah No]

9 minutes ago, Elizzikra said:

Kody started by saying that Christine couldn't qualify for the mortgage, so he co-signed (which, as head of the family, isn't he responsible for securing housing for ALL of his wives and children). Then he added the bit about providing the downpayment, which I'm not sure I believe. At best, I'd say Christine owes him half of whatever downpayment he made but that's it. I think it's clear that Robyn has more than her fair share in the housing department.

I don't know much about this stuff but I would think that just because Kody and Robyn gave Christine the down payment for her house doesn't mean she owes it back to them if she sells the house even if he cosigned for her on the loan.  All cosigning means is that the cosigner agrees to take over the payments should the person they cosign for is unable to make them.  She's not married to him and just having kids with him doesn't automatically make her liable for paying them back if the down payment was given as a gift.  Unless she entered into a specific legal agreement with them to pay them back the down payment should she sell the house they may not be able to get it back from her.  I once knew someone in a similar situation and they had a legal agreement so when they sold the house they had to pay the cosigner back the down payment they gave them.

[Auntie Freeze]

I’ll ponder Douchebag’s genuine madness later, for now I’m living for Truely making ramen. You in here, Tru? 😆 I was howling.