S01.E08: Ribbit and Rip it

[AnimeMania]

She-Hulk represents Leap-Frog who was injured due to a malfunction in his custom-made super suit.

Air Date: Oct 6, 2022
Brandon Stanley as Eugene Patilio / Leap-Frog / Guard Frog
Charlie Cox as Matt Murdock / Daredevil

[vb68]

That was definitely the best episode of the series. Not coincidentally, it had the most action. And Daredevil.

I officially ship She-hulk and Daredevil. That chemistry was smokin'. 

It feels like we are finally getting somewhere, and there's only one episode left.

[tkc]

Glad they didn’t use the finale as DD’s episode, since I think it would have taken the focus away from Jen, and as she rightly pointed out, it *is* her show!

Having just finished a Daredevil rewatch not long ago, I was interested to see how he’d be portrayed here. Obviously the tone of this show is quite unlike the Netflix show, but we got a couple of bars of the Daredevil theme, as well as a hallway fight scene!

As for DD’s new look — needs a bit more stubble. 😄

Gonna be a lot to resolve next week!

Edited October 6, 2022 by tkc

[steelyis]

18 minutes ago, vb68 said:

I officially ship She-hulk and Daredevil. That chemistry was smokin'.

Oh, yeah! Jen wasn't the only one feeling it, that's for sure! Hot damn!

Can I just say I wasn't mad at Jen going into a hulk-rage? Because, wow. Revenge porn? Slut-shaming? Really? I was fuming right there with her!

It does prove Jen has amazing control over her anger, because most people would have ripped that asshole's head clean off.

[AnimeMania]

Disney is getting good at making shows that make you wish you were watching another show, first The Book Of Boba Fett, now this one.

Best episode yet, could have used less She-Hulk.

Edited October 6, 2022 by AnimeMania

[Bill1978]

57 minutes ago, vb68 said:

That was definitely the best episode of the series. Not coincidentally, it had the most action. And Daredevil.

ITA. Everything was really good, it really felt like a true 'Case of the Week' episode you generally get with legal shows, with the appearances of characters that have appeared before that make you go 'Oh I remember them' but you also weren't required to have seen any episodes beforehand to understand who everyone was, but yet still progressed the larger story of the series for regular watchers. I don't know why exactly but the action, drama, and comedy melded so well. It reminded me of a good episode of Ally McBeal (if Ally McBeal had random fight scenes instead of dancing babies).

I am sad that next week is the last episode, I've really enjoyed this show having each episode essentially being independent of each other. Like if I want to do a rewatch I don't technically have to watch it in order to enjoy. I miss when dramedies were shows with stories of the week.

My favourite scene for this episode was definitely Matt's Walk of Shame. Literally laughed out loud at that scene. Loved it.

[arc]

I like how they just slipped in that the Sokovia Accords were repealed.

I feel like the court could have compelled turning over Luke Jacobsen's client list, but maybe only psuedonymously. But that would have ultimately been a big waste of time since Frog-man was using the tech incorrectly. I feel like this also makes Jacobsen look worse though, as a mercenary super-tailor-for-hire rather than someone with some standards.

Loved everything with Matt and with Matt & Jen.

The gala getting infiltrated and subverted was awful for Jen.

[Spartan Girl]

The next time Jen sees Josh she better she to kick him in the nuts, that’s all I have to say.

Although now that Daredevil/Matt is in the picture, there might be hope for her love life yet! Yeah, yeah, she doesn’t HAVE to end up with anyone, but that chemistry is there.

[Ailianna]

So sad and yet so typical of this kind of bad guy that a woman's worst "sin" is her sexuality. And this episode, actually part way through, I realized this series does have a Big Bad, and it isn't Titania. It's misogyny. That is the thing Jen (and Mallory and Nicki and even Titania) are really fighting all season.

[paigow]

This version of Daredevil is completely unknown beyond NYC??? I guess the Punisher & Kingpin have not happened yet.

Edited October 7, 2022 by paigow

[Bill1978]

9 minutes ago, paigow said:

This version of Daredevil is completely unknown beyond NYC???

I guess this is a way to softly reboot Daredevil and not be constrained by the events of the Netflix series? I admit I haven't seen the entire series so have no idea if anything Kingpin did/say in the Hawkeye series supported the notion he was the same one. Although with the multiverse, it would be pretty easy to say there is a Netflixverse of Marvel characters running around to explain why Daredevil etc are same same but different.

3 hours ago, steelyis said:

Can I just say I wasn't mad at Jen going into a hulk-rage? Because, wow. Revenge porn? Slut-shaming? Really? I was fuming right there with her!

I wasn't mad either and thought her response was totally acceptable for what just occurred.

[Sakura12]

Daredevil has finally arrived on She-Hulk's show. I like this Matt better, he's still a broody loner but he's not as moody. He can smile and flirt and he did quite a lot of that with Jen. I don't blame him in the least. Jen found a good guy that just lives in another coast. 

I liked him giving superhero advice too. He's been around long enough to be able to. Even if Jen has never heard of the devil of Hell's Kitchen (which coincidentally I'm near right now being in Hudson Yards for NYCC. Lol)

Then the ending which i thought the female lawyer of the year was fake anyway. Did Hulk-King just take over it or was the creepy rich guy behind it?  If that happened to me and I was Hulk, I'd be smashing things too. Josh needs to get his ass whooped by Jen both physically and legally. 

[moonshine71]

47 minutes ago, paigow said:

This version of Daredevil is completely unknown beyond NYC??? I guess the Punisher & Kingpin have not happened yet.

I know a lot of people will jump to that assumption, but I don't think that's a certainty at this point. In a world that has faced(at least 3) multiple alien invasions, an army of robots, a war between superhero factions, had HALF THE POPULATION snapped out of existence/killed, all the global issues and grief that would stem from that, and then had the Avengers invent time travel 5 years later to bring them back- I'm not sure how big the story is of a local hero who operates almost exclusively in a single neighborhood of New York that takes up less than than one square mile and the crimes of a local business man turned crime boss. Additionally, Daredevil doesn't have any official ties to the Punisher, he gave that collar to Officer Brett and the NYPD, so the general public wouldn't even know he fought and captured him. Most of those events would have taken place 8-10 years ago when the 5 year time jump is accounted for. Factor in that we don't know if he was snapped out for those 5 years or what he's been doing at all in that period, I can't say anything is definite. I would assume they wrote it to be just as such, as to not put the Daredevil show writers into any corners.

I would add, that is also how I felt about Kate Bishop not knowing who Kingpin was in Hawkeye. She would have been about 10 years old when Wilson Fisk was making the news, not an age most kids are paying attention to that kind if stuff, and also a world filled with much bigger, more exciting superhero things going on. As she got older, I don't know that a "Whatever happened go Wilson Fisk" story would have gotten a lot of attention with everything else happening in that world.

Edited October 6, 2022 by moonshine71

[moonshine71]

This episode gets a thumbs up if only for the fact  they finally let Matt get laid. The only Defender they didn't let get any(I don't count the flashback w/ Electra from who knows how many years before). 

Now poor Karen is the only series regular that is left in the Netflix shows that they haven't let have sex.

[shapeshifter]

1 hour ago, Sakura12 said:

Jen found a good guy that just lives in another coast.

Works for me, especially because it is *her* show. 

Floved the episode, but does Jen have a Hulk Destruction Insurance policy?

Excellent B plot with Luke. 

I'm not up on most of the Marvel Universe stuff, but just based on this episode, I see that Charlie Cox as Matt Murdock / Daredevil has the super power to charm the birds out of the trees.

Favorite part of the Jen/Matt hookup was Jen unhooking Matt's bra super-suit for him in a hot bit of gender role reversal.

Edited October 6, 2022 by shapeshifter

[Raja]

1 hour ago, Bill1978 said:

I guess this is a way to softly reboot Daredevil and not be constrained by the events of the Netflix series? I admit I haven't seen the entire series so have no idea if anything Kingpin did/say in the Hawkeye series supported the notion he was the same one. Although with the multiverse, it would be pretty easy to say there is a Netflixverse of Marvel characters running around to explain why Daredevil etc are same same but different.

I wasn't mad either and thought her response was totally acceptable for what just occurred.

The nerd press is putting up stories like the Daredevil series is "has all but confirmed" is canon. But then again first with Kingpin's durability in Hawkeye and now Daredevil going back to his almost Spider-man like high flying down the side of a building here they both certainly seem to be a variation of the brawlers seen on Netflix.

[TimothyQ]

The show really came together this week and had some focus that actually seemed to move the story along. 

Are we going to find out that creepy Wakanda-loving dude is the mastermind (?) behind all this? Seems like they’re putting him in that space. 

[johntfs]

4 minutes ago, TimothyQ said:

The show really came together this week and had some focus that actually seemed to move the story along. 

Are we going to find out that creepy Wakanda-loving dude is the mastermind (?) behind all this? Seems like they’re putting him in that space. 

I'm not sure how much "resolution to the plot" there's  actually going to be next week because of the nature of said plot.  This show isn't about alien sky laser or gun-toting conspiracies.  It's about a woman who happens to have superpowers living her life in LA.  The blood-thief people can wait until next season (or maybe the...

Spoiler

Captain America movie since I've heard that The Leader might be in it),

There will probably be some resolution/comeuppance for Josh, shit-bag that he was.

[Enigma X]

I loved this episode. My favorite by far. I did not think I could like Daredevil more, but I do. So glad that Jen found out Daredevil's identity early. I even like that it reinforced that Daredevil is more of a local Hell's Kitchen hero.

[cdnalor]

Loved seeing Daredevil again but not with that  color scheme.  There's a reason the comics dropped the yellow/red suit in favor of the deep red one early on.  Yech!

Great action from both characters and we finally see Jen in the super-suit, which looks more like a swimsuit, but that's what female characters get in the comics world.  At least she won't have to worry about ripped pants like Bruce.

I really feel sorry for the owner of that car Jen tossed in the parking lot.  You'd think a lawyer would be more careful about property damage.

[Raja]

6 minutes ago, cdnalor said:

I really feel sorry for the owner of that car Jen tossed in the parking lot.  You'd think a lawyer would be more careful about property damage.

The car, that parking lot owner has lost his asset for a long time. No wonder DODC was locked and loaded 

[xaxat]

I enjoyed the episode, but was really hoping for a post-credit scene where the Dora Milaje introduce themselves to Todd. 

[angora]

So much fun! I liked seeing Jen finally flexing her superhero muscles in an intentional way, and her and Matt made an entertaining team. All their scenes together--in court, superheroing, and.... extracurricular--were great.

I liked that Matt wasn't just the brooding straight man to Jen's sitcom lead. He got to be lighter and quippier too. Love their banter together, and they played well off of each other as superheroes with very different sensibilities. And yet, despite the different tone, he still did feel appreciably like Matt. Good scene of him pushing so hard in court to protect the confidentiality of Luke's clients, and talking to Jen about how she could protect people as both a lawyer *and* a superhero.

Although, when he told Jen that Luke made some suits for him, I was hoping he'd justify it by saying that it was adapted clothing for his work as a lawyer, similar to how Luke has made Jen business suits that fit both of her bodies. It'd be cool if Luke made Matt suits that had the washing instructions/color written in Braille incorporated into the fabric texture or something--with Matt's abilities, I suppose he could just smell the dyes/etc., but it would still be a neat thing, and it'd explain why a seemingly non-super lawyer from New York would be buying clothing from an underground designer from LA who specializes in custom super suits.

Loved that Jen didn't know how to get Matt's super suit off. Hee!

Ugh, poor Jen at the end. I don't blame her for going into a Hulk rage one bit.

Edited October 6, 2022 by angora

[Dandesun]

Oh. Hello GamerGate bullshit. I didn't misss you at all. Not that you ever left. Jesus, the end of this episode was harrowing and rage inducing and, yes, that fucking Hulk_king icon is clearly a nod to the equally repellent Pepe the Frog nonsense.

But on the upside, I loved everything else about the episode. I loved the 'Who's this asshole?' that led to Jen being both impressed/charmed by Matt then their face off and the inevitable team up. IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE AMIRITE?!

And Matt's Walk of Awesome at the end. LOVE.

Mallory knowing what was about to happen with Jen's rage and warning her not to... mixed feelings. Good lawyerly advice? Yes? Reasonable after that kind of gross violation? No. And I kind of want Holloway to get slapped down. He wanted the face (and also because she was a good lawyer) but then made her beholden to complete assholes and creeps and didn't really care about Jen as anything other than a commodity. Yeah, he should be scared. And I hope Mallory steps up in a big way to represent Jen.

And I hope those assholes get what's coming to them.

[HelloooKitty]

I ship it. 

[Chicago Redshirt]

7 hours ago, paigow said:

This version of Daredevil is completely unknown beyond NYC??? I guess the Punisher & Kingpin have not happened yet.

Not necessarily completely unknown. Just unknown to Jen.

Assuming D+ series have happened in chronological order

Kingpin is already a thing as seen in Hawkeye. It seems clear that they are rebooting Daredevil to some extent so the events of Netflix S1-3 aren't guaranteed, nor is the notion that Daredevil and Kingpin have ever crossed paths.

6 hours ago, moonshine71 said:

This episode gets a thumbs up if only for the fact  they finally let Matt get laid. The only Defender they didn't let get any(I don't count the flashback w/ Electra from who knows how many years before). 

Now poor Karen is the only series regular that is left in the Netflix shows that they haven't let have sex.

Though it's been a while, I was under the impression Matt slept with Claire during S1. 

[angora]

2 hours ago, Dandesun said:

Mallory knowing what was about to happen with Jen's rage and warning her not to... mixed feelings. Good lawyerly advice? Yes? Reasonable after that kind of gross violation? No. And I kind of want Holloway to get slapped down. He wanted the face (and also because she was a good lawyer) but then made her beholden to complete assholes and creeps and didn't really care about Jen as anything other than a commodity. Yeah, he should be scared. And I hope Mallory steps up in a big way to represent Jen.

I really liked that moment. Jen's speech from the pilot about always having to control her emotions/anger goes double (at least) for Mallory as a Black woman. I'm sure she knew that, no matter how justified Jen's rage was after that gross violation, losing control in public like that was only going to blow back on *her*, so Mallory tried to look out for her by urging her to stop.

[TV Anonymous]

Did Matt get a new costume at the Daredevil series finale? I do not like this costume, I liked the all-burgundy one.

Daredevil being unknown in Los Angeles make sense. In the world of larger-than-life Avengers, minor superhero from Hell's Kitchen may not draw attention. My question is whether Matt is a California bar member. But he obviously is.

So Jennifer who is single and living alone have sex with a man. So fucking what? This is 2022 - assuming that that is also the date of the show.

[Llywela]

So this episode reminded me how much I've missed Matt Murdock on my TV. He and Jen were really cute together. I wish though that he wouldn't say his abilities allow him to 'see' because they don't, and it is a misleading statement to make. His abilities allow him to perceive, which is not the same thing. He can perceive what's going on around him, via his enhanced senses, but his eyes still don't work, he still doesn't see anything.

Poor Jen. Just when she was so happy, as well.

[Raja]

3 minutes ago, TV Anonymous said:

Did Matt get a new costume at the Daredevil series finale? I do not like this costume, I liked the all-burgundy one.

Daredevil being unknown in Los Angeles make sense. In the world of larger-than-life Avengers, minor superhero from Hell's Kitchen may not draw attention. My question is whether Matt is a California bar member. But he obviously is.

So Jennifer who is single and living alone have sex with a man. So fucking what? This is 2022 - assuming that that is also the date of the show.

No Melvin Potter built the armor plated suit for season 2 and Defenders show.. In the third Bullseye stole it and impersonated Daredevil and Matt went back to his black man in the mask with Muy Thai hand wraps outfit.

[Stardancer Supreme]

I hope Jen gets to Hulk Smash those intelligencia assholes.  That was a fucked up thing to do, even at the ill named Female Lawyer of the Year awards. First of all, women lawyers aren't any different from male lawyers. UGH.  Then to say that Jen stole Bruce's powers as Hulk and sex shame her? I'm enraged on her behalf!

Even though we got Matt Murdock/Daredevil, this is still Jen's show! 

That wasn't a walk of shame. Matt seemed pretty proud of himself, walking barefoot in the street. Heh.

Jen didn't deserve the Monster edit for this entirely justified fit of rage. I need Mallory and the firm to stand behind her for the eventual bullshit lawsuits that are coming. 

[TV Anonymous]

11 hours ago, AnimeMania said:

Disney is getting good at making shows that make you wish you were watching another show, first The Book Of Boba Fett, now this one.

It is called 'cross-selling'. Good businesses - including Disney apparently - know how to do it well.

[thuganomics85]

Daredevil is finally here!  Great seeing Matt again and watching Daredevil fight some crime in the MCU!  As soon as you saw that hallway, you knew those goons were so doomed!  Every villain should now approach hallways with caution!  I know some on the nets will no doubt complain about this lighter version of the character, but I think it works well and it was nice seeing Cox have more fun here.  Then again, I do remember that Matt could actually have some fun moments at times on his show, so I can easily see this being what Matt is like when he isn't wore down by all of the guilt, injuries, putting up with Kingpin's bullshit, or having to defend The Punisher of all people!

Fun watching She-Hulk go on her first official heroing mission and watching her bounce off of Daredevil.  Definitely not surprised that Jen and Matt hooked up at the end, because the vibes were totally there and Tatiana Maslany and Charlie Cox already have pretty great chemistry with one another.  Plus, Matt just needs to have a relationship that doesn't come with all the baggage he had with Elektra...  

Leap Frog made for a fun, dumb villain.

So hope the Dora Milaje are going to be paying a visit to Todd about that spear he "acquired."

Final scene certainly took a turn.  Intelligencia really are just a group of woman hating trolls, whose grand plan was to use everything they stole to shame Jen for daring to actually have sex.  Even took a video without her consent/revenge porn.  Yeah, can't blame She-Hulk for actually Hulking out this time.  It's probably going to lead to some questioning her emotional state, but I hope the likes of Nikki, Mallory, Pug, and Jen's parents still remain in her corner.  I'm sure all of the trolls in real life will complain about this and claim it's because it isn't "subtle", but at this point I don't care anymore.  I'm all for this show just making sexist, bigoted internet trolls the main villains and showing how awful and pathetic they are.  I hope they continue to keep things not so subtle and when Jen gets a hold of Josh and his ilk, it isn't even a competition: just a straight-up ass kicking delivered to all of them by her.  Hope Jen unleashes the full might of She-Hulk next week!

[wmdekooning]

6 hours ago, shapeshifter said:

Floved the episode, but does Jen have a Hulk Destruction Insurance policy?

Either the repealed Sokovia Accords or the Department of Damage Control (DDC) should have perhaps (gently) mandated such insurance be taken out.

Since She-Hulk is now well known I would think that someone would make a sales call to her offering she sign up for a policy at a reasonable rate...

[shapeshifter]

25 minutes ago, thuganomics85 said:

Intelligencia really are just a group of woman hating trolls, whose grand plan was to use everything they stole to shame Jen for daring to actually have sex.  Even took a video without her consent/revenge porn.  Yeah, can't blame She-Hulk for actually Hulking out this time.  It's probably going to lead to some questioning her emotional state, but I hope the likes of Nikki, Mallory, Pug, and Jen's parents still remain in her corner.  I'm sure all of the trolls in real life will complain about this and claim it's because it isn't "subtle", but at this point I don't care anymore.  I'm all for this show just making sexist, bigoted internet trolls the main villains and showing how awful and pathetic they are.  I hope they continue to keep things not so subtle and when Jen gets a hold of Josh and his ilk, it isn't even a competition: just a straight-up ass kicking delivered to all of them by her.  Hope Jen unleashes the full might of She-Hulk next week!

Maybe Jen will use her super-lawyering to take out the trolls―—which would:

• serve to prove Jen does deserve a Lawyer of the Year award
• prevent her incurring any civil suits for maiming idiots
• demonstrate that she can whip their butts either with or without superhero powers
• perhaps generate a legal precedent that can be used by others who are victims of revenge and other porn posted online without the subjects' permission

[paigow]

Who would survive the insurance pitch?

GEICO Lizard

Progressive Flo

Allstate POTUS David Palmer

[arc]

Even a superhuman lawyer Hulk couldn’t possibly afford superhero insurance. She caused probably six figures of damage just at the parking garage, never mind the Lilypad. Her annual premiums would have to be a close match to the amount of damage she caused each year.

(In the comics, Damage Control wasn’t a federal police force as in the MCU, it was the private construction outfit that would go around and repair the aftermath of superhuman fights. I think they were funded out of insurance that didn’t have to pencil out because this is comics and no one wants to think about whether the math really makes sense.)

I was a little taken out that Daredevil’s suit had an unusually awkward zipper in the back. Is that really the best place for it? Why would a genius fashion designer put it there?

[AnimeMania]

36 minutes ago, paigow said:

Who would survive the insurance pitch?

GEICO Lizard

Progressive Flo

Allstate POTUS David Palmer

Jake from State Farm.

[johntfs]

4 hours ago, Dandesun said:

Oh. Hello GamerGate bullshit. I didn't misss you at all. Not that you ever left. Jesus, the end of this episode was harrowing and rage inducing and, yes, that fucking Hulk_king icon is clearly a nod to the equally repellent Pepe the Frog nonsense.

But on the upside, I loved everything else about the episode. I loved the 'Who's this asshole?' that led to Jen being both impressed/charmed by Matt then their face off and the inevitable team up. IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE AMIRITE?!

And Matt's Walk of Awesome at the end. LOVE.

Mallory knowing what was about to happen with Jen's rage and warning her not to... mixed feelings. Good lawyerly advice? Yes? Reasonable after that kind of gross violation? No. And I kind of want Holloway to get slapped down. He wanted the face (and also because she was a good lawyer) but then made her beholden to complete assholes and creeps and didn't really care about Jen as anything other than a commodity. Yeah, he should be scared. And I hope Mallory steps up in a big way to represent Jen.

And I hope those assholes get what's coming to them.

I hope it turns out Holloway and the firm has Jen's back on this.

[tennisgurl]

I guessed that this would finally be the introduction of Daredevil, but as soon as I heard the sound of a cane, I admit my heart started beating so much that I bet Matt would have heard me a mile away. I have been so excited for Matt to finally show up, and this was all that I wanted and more. Matt seems quite a bit lighter than usual, a bit more happy and down for fun banter, but he still very much seems like the same guy from his own show. I hope this means that Matt has had a few decent years in between here and when his show ended, God knows the poor guy needs a few wins. I guess the LA sun is good for his mood, maybe its time to take the occasional vacation from Hells Kitchen. Great to see him nailing it as a lawyer and as a superhero, we even got to see a classic Daredevil hallway fight, those henchgoons were probably lucky that Jenn showed up to She-Hulk smash them, we know how brutal fights with Matt can get. Jenn and Matt? Oh yeah, I am so into this, Jenn really needs that romantic win, especially after how the episode ended. She and Matt are super cute together and they actually made a good team on Jenn's first superhero mission. Hopefully this isn't the end for him, they both really need a nice person to go out with without too much baggage. 

Loved that happy grin as Matt walked away in the morning, no shame in his game! 

Leap Frog is a real deep cut, he was a fun stupid minor villain. Loved Jenn and Matt giving him legal advice while they beat up his henchgoons and his hilarious stupid villain lair. The Lilly Pad? Very subtle. 

I knew something bad was going to happen as soon as Jenn reminded us that this was the episode before the season finale and that this episode seems to be building up to a twist, but instead of a red Hulk or a major character death, we get the Intelligencia trolls being the absolute fucking worst. Did I hear them say that Jenn "stole" the Hulks powers? Seriously? What a pack of assholes, they are just so disgusted by the very idea of a woman living her best life and daring to have consensual sex that they would do all of this to her? This is going to be rough going forward, but I hope that Jenn goes all She-Hulk smash on every single one of those assholes, especially Josh, the biggest monster in the entire MCU. These pathetic trolls deserve to be called out as the scum they are and to get the biggest comeuppance they can.

Oh good, its Damage Control, here to do what they do best: make everything worse. Did Intelligencia give them a heads up that something was going down, or do they just show up and lurk around every time a known super person is going to be around? Either one sounds right, I guess they needed to find something to do after they got in trouble for attacking unarmed teenagers with drones in New Jersey. 

Edited October 7, 2022 by tennisgurl

[johntfs]

1 hour ago, tennisgurl said:

I guessed that this would finally be the introduction of Daredevil, but as soon as I heard the sound of a cane, I admit my heart started beating so much that I bet Matt would have heard me a mile away. I have been so excited for Matt to finally show up, and this was all that I wanted and more. Matt seems quite a bit lighter than usual, a bit more happy and down for fun banter, but he still very much seems like the same guy from his own show. I hope this means that Matt has had a few decent years in between here and when his show ended, God knows the poor guy needs a few wins. I guess the LA sun is good for his mood, maybe its time to taker the occasional vacation from Hells Kitchen. Great to see him nailing it as a lawyer and as a superhero, we even got to see a classic Daredevil hallway fight, those henchgoons were probably lucky that Jenn showed up to She-Hulk smash them, we know how brutal fights with Matt can get. Jenn and Matt? Oh yeah, I am so into this, Jenn really needs that romantic win, especially after how the episode ended. She and Matt are super cute together and they actually made a good team on Jenn's first superhero mission. Hopefully this isn't the end for him, they both really need a nice person to go out with without too much baggage. 

Loved that happy grin as Matt walked away in the morning, no shame in his game! 

Leap Frog is a real deep cut, he was a fun stupid minor villain. Loved Jenn and Matt giving him legal advice while they beat up his henchgoons and his hilarious stupid villain lair. The Lilly Pad? Very subtle. 

I knew something bad was going to happen as soon as Jenn reminded us that this was the episode before the season finale and that this episode seems to be building up to a twist, but instead of a red Hulk or a major character death, we get the Intelligencia trolls being the absolute fucking worst. Did I hear them say that Jenn "stole" the Hulks powers? Seriously? What a pack of assholes, they are just so disgusted by the very idea of a woman living her best life and daring to have consensual sex that they would do all of this to her? This is going to be rough going forward, but I hope that Jenn goes all She-Hulk smash on every single one of those assholes, especially Josh, the biggest monster in the entire MCU. These pathetic trolls deserve to be called out as the scum they are and to get the biggest comeuppance they can.

Oh good, its Damage Control, here to do what they do best: make everything worse. Did Intelligencia give them a heads up that something was going down, or do they just show up and lurk around every time a known super person is going to be around? Either one sounds right, I guess they needed to find something to do after they got in trouble for attacking unarmed teenagers with drones in New Jersey. 

To be fair being there whenever a super-powered person is supposed to be around is probably a good way to get ahead and "control" the likely damage.

And for my part, I don't want her to go She-Hulk smash on Intelligencia.  I want her to go Jennifer Walters smash.

Jennifer is a former ADA.  So I want her to use her training and skill to unmask those fuckers and destroy them, starting with Josh.

Because she knows who he is.  "Josh, it's simple.  You can give up your fellow cretins or you can go to prison.  Real prison.  Where you will wish that you could be celibate."

I might be indulging in wishful thinking but I think Holloway will support her.  She-Hulk is the face of his new law division and these assholes just slapped that face and devalued it.  For that they need to pay in money and tears of regret.

[PurpleFishHead]

2 hours ago, AnimeMania said:

Jake from State Farm.

JK Simmons from Farmers

[PurpleTentacle]

Best episode so far. I hope they do get a second season and can keep it to this quality.

Maybe hire a few writers who can write court room drama (because that part was alcking again) and then have a few episodes set in court.

9 hours ago, TimothyQ said:

Are we going to find out that creepy Wakanda-loving dude is the mastermind (?) behind all this? Seems like they’re putting him in that space. 

Spoiler

He was credited as "Todd / Hulk-Todd" in the press screener of episode 4 and the "evil mastermind" calls himself KingHulk. You do the math.

11 hours ago, Sakura12 said:

Daredevil has finally arrived on She-Hulk's show. I like this Matt better, he's still a broody loner but he's not as moody. He can smile and flirt and he did quite a lot of that with Jen. I don't blame him in the least. Jen found a good guy that just lives in another coast. 

Wasn't that kinda where his character had devloped to at the end of the Netflix show? I hope it's an indication that all of that is still canon.

9 hours ago, cdnalor said:

Loved seeing Daredevil again but not with that  color scheme. 

Yeah it doesn't work. In the pictures in the start of this thread he looks way too much like Leapfrog.

4 hours ago, TV Anonymous said:

Did Matt get a new costume at the Daredevil series finale? I do not like this costume, I liked the all-burgundy one.

We saw a few episodes ago that the guy who also makes Jen's clothes built it. That was like a week ago in show-time. So no, that one is far newer than the Daredevil series finale and yes, it sucks.

[phalange]

So much fourth wall breaking and I loved it, especially at the end when Jen wondered why we the audience were still there and if there was going to be another Hulk or if she was about to get fridged. 

That Leapfrog guy is a total moron, but at least Jen still can get her clothing made by Luke after rescuing him from Leapfrog and his goons.

Jen and Matt have crazy chemistry and of course I already ship it. I laughed at her teasing him about the ketchup and mustard colors of his suit and when Matt said he heard her heartbeat and she was was like "No, I'm healthy." Also Jen struggling to undo Matt's suit and Matt's walk of shame the next morning. 

When the incels hacked the awards banquet, it made me feel sick. Poor Jen. I would've flown into a rage too. And it sucks that she'll be seen as the monster for getting justifiably angry.

[Guest]

I am so glad they waited until now to bring in Matt. The show is firing on all cylinders and was able to balance introducing him well without overshadowing Jen. 

14 hours ago, Sakura12 said:

Daredevil has finally arrived on She-Hulk's show. I like this Matt better, he's still a broody loner but he's not as moody. He can smile and flirt and he did quite a lot of that with Jen. I don't blame him in the least. Jen found a good guy that just lives in another coast. 

I liked him giving superhero advice too. He's been around long enough to be able to. Even if Jen has never heard of the devil of Hell's Kitchen (which coincidentally I'm near right now being in Hudson Yards for NYCC. Lol)

I completely agree. I really hope that whoever is writing on the Daredevil series had a hand in this episode because this is the Matt I want to see more of. 

7 hours ago, angora said:

I really liked that moment. Jen's speech from the pilot about always having to control her emotions/anger goes double (at least) for Mallory as a Black woman. I'm sure she knew that, no matter how justified Jen's rage was after that gross violation, losing control in public like that was only going to blow back on *her*, so Mallory tried to look out for her by urging her to stop.

I agree. I thought that was a great character moment. I really love Mallory and how supportive she has been of Nikki and Jen in her own way. 

[rmontro]

I didn't really buy the Jen/Matt chemistry so much, but it was really cool to see Daredevil do his flippy stuff.  And his new costume is awesome.  I think a slightly less dark Daredevil is going to be fine.  The Netflix show got a little dirge-like at times.  

Can't believe next week is the finale already, this season blew by fast.  

[kay1864]

“This episode already came to a very satisfying conclusion.”

Is that what the kids are calling it these days.

(followed by Jen’s excellent big smile)

[Guest]

13 hours ago, cdnalor said:

Great action from both characters and we finally see Jen in the super-suit, which looks more like a swimsuit, but that's what female characters get in the comics world.

More workout wear than swimsuit in my opinion. I didn’t love it but thought it looked way more comfortable and much less sexualized than what most women traditionally get. Particularly when her comic suit is a swimsuit. 

[Bruinsfan]

16 hours ago, cdnalor said:

Loved seeing Daredevil again but not with that  color scheme.  There's a reason the comics dropped the yellow/red suit in favor of the deep red one early on.  Yech!

Great action from both characters and we finally see Jen in the super-suit, which looks more like a swimsuit, but that's what female characters get in the comics world.  At least she won't have to worry about ripped pants like Bruce.

I can't see that version of the costume without recalling a comedy comic where Daredevil reacted to a flashback with his original suit, another character remarked about him supposedly being blind, and he replied that the suit was so loud he could hear it.

I think Jen's super-hero suit may be based on the one she was wearing back in the Mighty Avengers days. It looks like a crossfit outfit to me.

[Zuleikha]

She-Hulk's superhero outfit seemed weird to me. It looked like sports wear, which doesn't make sense for her character or seem like something that the fashion designer would design. But strangely, I thought it looked good when she shifted back to Jen.

I never watched Daredevil, but I may go back and watch it now. I see why that actor was so popular. He's very charming. Murdock and Walters have very believable chemistry.

I don't want to dwell too much on the revenge porn stuff, which was super gross. But we saw when Josh was first let into the house as well as when he cloned the phone and snapped a picture. I'm confused by the logistics of how he could have filmed a recording. I kind of don't want the show to do much exposition on why he did what he did, and I kind of do. His character doesn't make much sense at this point.

Edited October 7, 2022 by Zuleikha