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6 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Alcohol has a lot of calories....

Anti-anxiety meds often cause weight gain as well.

So Rinna at her lunch with Sutton basically said, "I like bullying you - it's fun. But I think you can take it." She's basically just a mean girl in her 50s.

Dammit Harry Hamlin. I find you charming.

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3 minutes ago, NoWhammies said:

Anti-anxiety meds often cause weight gain as well.

So Rinna at her lunch with Sutton basically said, "I like bullying you - it's fun. But I think you can take it." She's basically just a mean girl in her 50s.

Dammit Harry Hamlin. I find you charming.

Double dammit! 

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Betheney's Skinny Girl margarita took off due to the reduction in calories and initially was quite tasty.  Now it tastes like kerosene in a bottle.

LVP's Rose' was built on her name and as a well known restauranteur and is tasty too.

Never saw Ramona's Pinot Grigio.  That just shows lack of marketing. 

I saw an ad a long time ago about Wines By Wives.  Who wants to buy into a subscription service with selections being made by 2 loud mouth drunk ladies?  That would be like taking drink recommendations from the drunks on the street peddling for spare change.

What is Rinna's schtick for her Rose'?  Get a free duster with every case?  Sure she has a ton after the QVC fallout.

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8 hours ago, Surrealist said:

Yeah, whatever became of her Rinna lip kits? Didn't she just mention those a couple of episodes ago?

I looked at the website but didn't get past the picture of Rinna and I think one of her daughters looking like a couple or porn stars posing for the camera with their huge pouty  lips looking like they are ready to film. That was all I could stomach. 

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Rinna is the fucking worst! Sutton clocked her when she mentioned that Rinna was different at the lunch. She seemed over it then. But at her house, she has an audience. Also, the dramatics at anyone who dares to come at her kids and husband when literally nobody did. And she actually admitted she enjoys torturing Sutton. She is an empty, vile woman.

No Diana in this episode! And no Kyle. Which is good because they would have just joined in on the Sutton pile on.

Love Garcelle not buying Erika's BS.

I did laugh at Sutton asking Garcelle "who makes your sweater?" when she walked in. That was a cute moment. I also thought Dorit looked cute at the wine tasting.

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Is this a comedy show?  Either that or these stupid women DESPERATELY need stylists. Those outfits in the photo!!! They pay a fortune to look uncomfortable and ridiculous.  It’s crazy. But good for a laugh. 🤣

Is the reunion usually  filmed much later or right after the final episode? 

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I hope that scene berating Sutton isn’t on Rinna’s soap opera audition tape cause it was bad! Next week’s  scene where she is crying over Lois looks even worse. She is not as good an actress as she thinks.

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1 hour ago, janiema said:

No serious wine tasting would ever include drinking cocktails or anything other than water before tasting the wine. Stronger drinks tend to dull the taste buds which makes it harder to experience the subtleties of the wine. That’s why a normal tasting progresses from whites to reds. Dulling the taste buds may have been the plan for Rinna Rose.

Well how else was she going to get them to rave about how delicious the wine is? 😉 

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11 hours ago, Surrealist said:

I like that Sutton, although in her TH, said that she doesn't like it when they talk about one another when the subject of the gossip isn't around. I agree. It's a shitty thing to do.

It is.  On the other hand last season I think it was Sutton who called a meeting without Erika specifically to talk about Erika and her situation.     If it wasn't for gossiping about each other these women wouldn't have anything to talk about. 

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18 hours ago, MyMaui said:

Rinna is just tiring.  Nothing about her is real at all.

I think she's full of rage and it's spilling over. She was erratic and out of control on WWHL. They skewered her with mean questions and she had to take it, because Andy.

Time is passing her by. She's aging in a brutal industry, she's lost work, her husband lives elsewhere (I think his behavior on camera subtly shows he doesn't like Rinna very much), her kids will never generate the kind of income she and Harry hoped they would, and she's being bested by Sutton and Garcelle. and losing her popularity.

ETA: I wonder when Andy/Bravo will turn on Kyle, Rinna, Erika or Diana. It will happen if Bravo decides to dump them, or one of them really crosses a line behind the scenes. It's really why I watch. I can see it being Rinna or Erika. I think Diana will just leave on her own.

I don't think any of the assholes in this group (not counting Garcelle and Sutton here) are true friends. I think they are a work confederacy, banded together to achieve a shared goal - keeping their Bravo paychecks. I also don't think Garcelle and Sutton are anything more than friendly work pals.

And Erika is using the show to baldly advertise her services as a sex worker.

I'm shocked that Bravo aired the comments about Crystal purging, unless they acquired her permission in advance. That is a really shitty thing to do. I wouldn't be surprised if Crystal leaves.

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20 minutes ago, Stats Queen said:

Did you see his descriptor the editors put on the screen?
 

Waylon/Landscaper

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I didn't catch that, so thanks for the extra laughs 😅

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8 hours ago, Talented Tenth said:

No.  What I'm saying is that the FF5, love them or hate them, do not base their friendships and alliances on what fans or social media have to say.  The public dragged Faye Resnik and Kyle did not budge.  Erika has been dragged relentlessly and the FF5 did not shun or drop her.  They are real in their friendships and interactions.  Garcelle and Sutton saw on social media how people were on an Erika hate train and decided to play up to the fans to be liked by the public.  The issue with that is on the show, they are in danger of being iced out.  They are entertaining for the show, but playing to the fans in this instance isn't going to bode well for them unless there is a cast shakeup and the FF5 becomes a minority.  Sutton went hard on Erika last season and now she's paying the price.  These Housewives shows are akin to Survivor or Big Brother.  While Sutton may be impressing the fans, she's flopping with the cast.  Garcelle didn't go as hard so she's not getting the same wrath.

If Sutton and Garcelle truly question Erika that's fine but it seems like they are amping up their suspicions to be on the good side of the fans.

Actually, I do think the FF5 base their friendship on what fans and social media have to say--- that is their origin story.  They were aghast that LVP would have shared info with a tabloid about one of their own despicable actions (I'm not saying who leaked the story, but they accused LVP), so they formed their alliance to always have each others' back and NEVER divulge anything remotely negative (on a "reality" tv show, no less).  The biggest sins the other housewives could do is speak of those skeletons in the closets- a ruined reputation could mean a lost paycheck.  That's why they punished Denise for (in their minds) "mom shaming," Sutton for questioning Erika, LVP for supposedly exposing Dorit, Sutton again for bringing up the Gala tickets.  They will attack anyone who is not in their alliance, but protect their own messiness.

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5 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Sutton and Garcelle didn’t watch anything and decided to play it up.. from day ONE they have stayed on Erika’s neck because NO ONE else was .. 

I don't agree.  Last season, everything was happening in real time and Sutton and Garcelle were able to see what fans were saying on social media with Ronald Richards leading the hate train.  Sutton was desperate to get a diamond so I think she figured she could jump on the Erika hate train to curry favor with the public while making a splash on the show.  I also think Garcelle did the same thing.  It was easy for them to do since they did not have a long history with Erika.  

I don't believe for one second that if a person is in a friend group, the estranged husband embezzled and the person in the group was not charged with anything that, the person in the group would be grilled and called a liar outside of trying to making good television.  

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4 minutes ago, Talented Tenth said:

I don't agree.  Last season, everything was happening in real time and Sutton and Garcelle were able to see what fans were saying on social media with Ronald Richards leading the hate train.  Sutton was desperate to get a diamond so I think she figured she could jump on the Erika hate train to curry favor with the public while making a splash on the show.  I also think Garcelle did the same thing.  It was easy for them to do since they did not have a long history with Erika.  

I don't believe for one second that if a person is in a friend group, the estranged husband embezzled and the person in the group was not charged with anything that, the person in the group would be grilled and called a liar outside of trying to making good television.  

Nope not in the least I don’t see this .. I just don’t .. and that’s ok we don’t agree :) 

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34 minutes ago, Stats Queen said:

Did you see his descriptor the editors put on the screen?

Waylon/Landscaper

Yes!  High point of the episode.  (I think it was WAYLON: Sutton's Dog/Landscaper.)

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11 minutes ago, pasdetrois said:

I think she's full of rage and it's spilling over. She was erratic and out of control on WWHL. They skewered her with mean questions and she had to take it, because Andy.

Time is passing her by. She's aging in a brutal industry, she's lost work, her husband lives elsewhere, her kids will never generate the kind of income she and Harry hoped they would, and she's being bested by Sutton and Garcelle. and losing her popularity.

I agree with this for sure.  I really hope she is put on pause like Dorinda.  She's just too fake., too angry, and I think her appearance on WWHL showed what a fool and fake she was.   It's like she pulled an Erika and said I was drunk.  

The other ladies are who they are.  I don't think they are a character of themselves.  Rinna, however, I find her playing a some soap opera role and she is not good at it either.

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1 hour ago, rlc said:

For those calling the FF5 a genuine friendship, I think it is more appropriate to call them a murder of crows than a genuine friendship. 

Or maybe a murder of crones.

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5 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Sutton and Garcelle didn’t watch anything and decided to play it up.. from day ONE they have stayed on Erika’s neck because NO ONE else was .. 

Exactly. They appear to have an actual moral compass. My take is that Chrystal does too, she is just not confident enough to speak up much. 

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I love how Dorit said her friend finding Garcelle to be one of the most beautiful women he's seen as an incredible compliment to her, like she's an everyday pretty lady. Garcelle saying where's the lie was perfect. lol I think she's easily one of the most beautiful women I've seen, and I'm sure she's gotten those types of comments all her life. 

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17 minutes ago, Natalie68 said:

She is becoming quite a bit curvier.  A lotta booze and amnesia Taco Bell.

That outfit also didn't do her any favors.

Have we now seen all of Sutton's children?  I had completely forgotten she had a son!

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29 minutes ago, SemiCharmedLife said:

Actually, I do think the FF5 base their friendship on what fans and social media have to say--- that is their origin story.  They were aghast that LVP would have shared info with a tabloid about one of their own despicable actions (I'm not saying who leaked the story, but they accused LVP), so they formed their alliance to always have each others' back and NEVER divulge anything remotely negative (on a "reality" tv show, no less).  The biggest sins the other housewives could do is speak of those skeletons in the closets- a ruined reputation could mean a lost paycheck.  That's why they punished Denise for (in their minds) "mom shaming," Sutton for questioning Erika, LVP for supposedly exposing Dorit, Sutton again for bringing up the Gala tickets.  They will attack anyone who is not in their alliance, but protect their own messiness.

I don't think the FF5 are really true friends, either. Maybe Kyle and Dorit, but I'm not sure about that. I do believe that Sutton and Garcelle are true friends in non-reality TV life. That's why Sutton already knew Sheree and the conversation with Jaid last week made me feel like they've spent some time together. The FF5 suck.

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9 hours ago, Talented Tenth said:

No.  What I'm saying is that the FF5, love them or hate them, do not base their friendships and alliances on what fans or social media have to say.  The public dragged Faye Resnik and Kyle did not budge.  Erika has been dragged relentlessly and the FF5 did not shun or drop her.  They are real in their friendships and interactions.  Garcelle and Sutton saw on social media how people were on an Erika hate train and decided to play up to the fans to be liked by the public.  The issue with that is on the show, they are in danger of being iced out.  They are entertaining for the show, but playing to the fans in this instance isn't going to bode well for them unless there is a cast shakeup and the FF5 becomes a minority.  Sutton went hard on Erika last season and now she's paying the price.  These Housewives shows are akin to Survivor or Big Brother.  While Sutton may be impressing the fans, she's flopping with the cast.  Garcelle didn't go as hard so she's not getting the same wrath.

If Sutton and Garcelle truly question Erika that's fine but it seems like they are amping up their suspicions to be on the good side of the fans.

Garcelle and Sutton questioned Erika (even harder than now) before they knew what the viewers liked.

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Erika telling Garcelle that Sutton was a liability because she is unpredictable is the pot calling the kettle black.  I think narcissists need an enemy/target and harass that person saying they are all the things the narcissist really is, Erika is that narcissist and Sutton is her target.

My husband had a friend who was a giant narcissist, he even wrote an email to me telling me how horrible I was and all the horrible things I have done...nope, that was he, he described all the wretched things he is and has done but I was in his cross hairs, it was really scary so I sympathize with Sutton.  That ex friend was seriously crazy, he did not like facts, he only liked and believed the stories he made up in his head, Sutton might not want to fight with crazy, Rinna thinks being loud is always being right. 

It is ashame that Kyle who in the past had been the voice of reason when there was a fight has decided that being a mean girl is more her thing because I think she would have been the only one to diffuse Rinna's crap.  Oh Kyle, what happened to you?

Can we have a Real Housepets series?

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2 minutes ago, ZettaK said:

Garcelle and Sutton questioned Erika (even harder than now) before they knew what the viewers liked.

Exactly.. they haven't changed one bit from before the season was Aird when they filmed and now the stance has and is the same ... that's like crystal saying that Diana isn't doing what the fans want ... the season was shot before the fans saw it HOW is she changing her behavior to a show that is already taped MONths beforehand 

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2 hours ago, SweetieDarling said:

If I were Sutton in that situation, when Rinna told me to leave, I'd have said "Gladly! I don't need this abuse...Oooof you're so angry" and got up and left without saying another word to anyone.

I did notice that Rinna did NOT like being called angry or humiliated - it made me smile.

Maybe Garcelle would have left with her? That would have been a very cool move.

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7 minutes ago, ZettaK said:

Garcelle and Sutton questioned Erika (even harder than now) before they knew what the viewers liked.

Thank you!

Maybe, just maybe, those two have a similar outlook of right and wrong as a lot of us fans. 

Did they know the fans would think the Fox Force 5 was horrible to Denise? Nope, but Garcelle took up for her and Sutton didn't have a ton of involvement. 

Did they know the audience would find the Girardi scandal horrific and hate Erika? No, but they expressed their horror when the Fox Force 5 coddled Erika instead. 

Garcelle and Sutton are typically on the right side of things imo, and even when they're not, the Fox Force 5 blows their mistakes out of proportion. You'd have thought Sutton pulled a Brandi level low blow reveal on WWHL, but she didn't and has apologized. Move on already. And things like Garcelle not sending a thank you card, spare me. She has the best manners out of the whole bunch. How about having some of that same energy when her 14-yer-old son is being cursed out. 

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2 hours ago, Cosmocrush said:

It is.  On the other hand last season I think it was Sutton who called a meeting without Erika specifically to talk about Erika and her situation.     If it wasn't for gossiping about each other these women wouldn't have anything to talk about. 

Fair enough, but wasn't that meeting about the criminal investigation into what Tom and Erika have done and whether the other women could be implicated? 

There's so much that keeps coming out about the Girardis I'm losing track.

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4 hours ago, NoWhammies said:

Anti-anxiety meds often cause weight gain as well.

So Rinna at her lunch with Sutton basically said, "I like bullying you - it's fun. But I think you can take it." She's basically just a mean girl in her 50s.

Dammit Harry Hamlin. I find you charming.

I’d like to know why Erika looks so bloated in that picture, when she didn’t appear so last night.

Rinna, apparently, is now the Dorinda Medley of this coven, and Sutton the Tinsley Mortimer. I’m getting tired of seeing people who can’t (or pretend that they can’t) handle their booze, or use booze as an excuse for their dipshittery. Just like in “real life,” it gets old fast. She was out of line, even if it was at HER HOUSE, treating Sutton that way. But look at how far Sutton has come, for just calmly yet firmly pushing back and not losing her temper and running off. (Still disappointed in Garcelle for lighting that fuse, though.)

Harry is a saint, but I’m sure the man will reach his limit someday — unless he’s never home, or is otherwise around Lisa only when he has to tape.

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15 hours ago, 65mickey said:

Beware Rinna is on WWHL tonight. I will not watch it.

Unfortunately I did. She did herself no favors, she was drunk and a big mess. She would not apologize for anything and everything was a big joke. She said she was trying to change. Ha!  Andy, of course, didn’t drag her like he has other house ho’s. 

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15 minutes ago, Surrealist said:

Fair enough, but wasn't that meeting about the criminal investigation into what Tom and Erika have done and whether the other women could be implicated? 

There's so much that keeps coming out about the Girardis I'm losing track.

Yes, and that is a far cry from dishing about something that Crystal presumably told Dorit with some expectation of confidentiality. Erika’s issue was all over the media.

Not surprised that Dorit couldn’t keep her trap shut, but apparently Rinna learned nothing fron the Munchausen’s mess, and I doubt she would have taken kindly to it if her kid’s eating disorder had been made public like this.

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4 minutes ago, RoseAllDay said:

She was out of line, even if it was at HER HOUSE, treating Sutton that way

Especially at her house!  Some of these women have zero clue on being a decent hostess.  When your guests have to ASK if there is any food at a booze party is bad enough but  screaming at an invited guest to 'get the fuck out" is the opposite of being a decent hostess.  Also, having a party to sell your latest wares is tacky as hell, imo. 

Not that Sutton (apparently of renowned party thrower fame 🙄) is much better although compared to Rinna she shines.  Sutton's gatherings have included jewelry for sale, skimpy lunch (guests asking "is this it for the food?") served outdoors in a muddy yard, cold enough that you need to hand out coats.  

I can't remember Erika ever hosting anything.  

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15 hours ago, Dixie Sugarbaker said:

If I were Sutton and had her real FU money, I would set up a shell company, purchase the mortgages on Lisa’s house through it, call in the loans., and the tell Lisa to get the F out of my house. Yes, I can be a shady, vindictive bitch when warranted.

I think I have a little crush!  I love the way you think!!!

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8 hours ago, Hiyo said:

Some more than others, within that group, maybe (like Kyle & Teddi, or Lisa & Ericka).

I'm not sure how much of it as a whole is real, and how much of it is "safety in numbers".

I think it is more about mutual destruction pact.  They know where the bodies are buried.

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12 hours ago, film noire said:

Hey, Shitty Mess? Your life was not burned to the ground. The  person whose life burned to the ground is one of your victims (yes, those pesky victims who won't go away no matter how hard you try to erase them from history). 

Your victim's name is Joe Ruigomez.  A fireball robbed him of everything he held dear in his life; his girlfriend, his health, even his sanity, at one point. For a woman as shallow and toxic as you are, Erika, I'm sure being reduced to cheap hair extensions and sporting a face like a bitchy puffer-fish feels as horrifying as surviving the worst natural gas explosion in U.S, history, but it's not. It's a hiccup compared to what happened to Ruigomez, who needed every inch of his body rebuilt. And that's where you come in  - you and your Cunty necklace - living the high life on Ruigomez's settlement, stuffing your pit of a mouth with champagne and lunch in Paris (and Tom's dick, always willing to do anything to keep the whore-money flowing; forgive me, make that pimp-money. Sex workers earn their money honestly). Stop acting indigant and self-righteous in the face of facts. Stop playing the victim. You're not the injured party. You're the perp - the grifting, hateful perp.

And fuck your Sutton vendetta. We all know the only reason she's a "liability" to Garcelle (or, ahem, you) is that Sutton saw you for what you are - immoral, duplicitous, repugnant - and named it to the world. And then refused to back down. Just as Garcelle did tonight, when she - calmly! -  said she didn't believe your version of events. They both got your number. We've all got your number.

P.S. Hope your sham squad knows how to put together a look that says. "I've been named in a Federal racketeering lawsuit & don't my tits look fabulous?"

I want to be able to use two emojis.  The fire and clapping hands are needed for this post!

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