Talented Tenth

The party looked beautiful and the cast members all commented on how fabulous it was. I'm sure production had a hand in Erika performing as a set up for her residency show. I think Kyle's look would have been better with different hair. Even though Sutton and Kyle claim to be friends, they both at times do not act like friends to each other with the way they talk behind each other's backs and the way they approach each other. They are true frenemies. I think Dorit is gone after this season. She doesn't have a real connection to anyone at this point besides maybe Erika and they seem like work friends. Dorit has been skating and didn't bring much this season. I think Annemarie is also a one and done. The husband's rape allegations just before her debut were already a cloud and then she put the nail in the coffin with her esophagus bullshit.

At the reunion, Robyn expressed that it's not a good idea for a married man to be alone with a woman in a hotel room. The subtext was that the optics weren't good and there would be no issue had it not happened. She did not insinuate that Chris had bad intentions. I don't consider her reunions statements as incongruent with what she said during the season. The issue with Wendy is that she "made up" with Robyn but went on to laugh at the cheating rumors the next season and talked shit just like Candiace. How do they expect to be friends with Robyn while simultaneously displaying behavior of an enemy? Gizelle is the root of all of the division but since she's the face of the show, she's not going anywhere. I think the only way to fix it is for Gizelle to apologize to Wendy and Candiace for playing with their marriages. It will be unfair if they get rid of other people due to the mess that Gizelle has caused.

I think most people hesitate to publicly speak on their parents in a negative way. What people tend to do is highlight the positive. I don't like Kathy, but I think she's very image conscious. Regardless of who's right or wrong, Kathy likes to put on a united front to the public which is why she waited for cameras to be down before trashing Kyle and the rest of the cast. Reality tv isn't for Kathy. Stating this with no judgment, Kim is a drug addict which can be difficult to deal with. Kathy can be a nasty and mean woman. She also was accused of racial and gay slurs (three out of 4 children have been caught up in anti-gay, racist scandals). Kyle didn't choose what family to be born into. She seems like the most normal one. Maybe the conflict is due to the issues the others have. Garcelle didn't articulate it in the greatest way, but it's not simply the word; it's engaging with a Black woman and exaggerating what's happening to make the Black woman seem threatening which is where the "Karen" part comes in. Dorit called Garcelle a "bully" in a previous season which is ridiculous. In this past episode, Garcelle didn't "attack" Dorit by accurately stating that she brought up Sutton's make out session to embarrass her in front of the women. Is it possible that Dorit would have said these same things to a white woman in Garcelle's shoes? Perhaps. Garcelle's point is that she wants Dorit to be aware of who she's saying certain things to. Dorit knows not to say Happy Hannukah to people who aren't Jewish, she knows not to ask a sober person out for cocktails and she knows not to offer meat to a vegan. She can also know not to exaggerate and feed into racial discord when engaging with Black women. I don't know that Kyle implied that she puts on a happy face when things aren't happy; just that she doesn't want yelling and screaming in her home. Dealing with conflict doesn't have to be volatile; there can be a calm, rational discussion to sort things out.

The flashback showed that Erika apologized to Denise for the comment so Erika probably did draw a blank as to what Denise was referring to. If that really still is Denise's issue, she didn't articulate it and told Erika to watch the show. Bringing up something now that Erika apologized for years ago seems ridiculous.

Probably because of comments like yours.

"Name 'em" 7 times and refusing to let someone speak while being inebriated isn't handling something "pretty well".

Your discernment is impeccable. Like Wendy Williams used to say, any excuse is better than none. She came up with her "too raunchy" talk to cover up her embarrassment. I will say that Sutton's outfit didn't help. She was dressed like she was going to a gala instead of hip and cool like she wanted to be a part of the show. She's only 52 but dresses much older, conservatively and matronly at times. The other women were showing skin or in skin tight outfits. I can't imagine white pants on the floor and that beaded top pressing into the skin of the dancers.

The "faking" accusations are getting annoying to me. While anything's possible, Kyle is the face of the show, the glue of the show and a staple. She's been in the first chair for years at the reunion. With the exception of Dorit's questionable home invasion, this isn't a cast that has resorted to pulling stunts or having to come up with a "storyline" every year. Their wealth, connections and friendships are the storylines. The major events that we've seen all of these years were things that organically happened. It's implausible and super far-fetched to me that all of a sudden Kyle would fake marriage issues. The viewers have speculated that Mauricio has cheated for years and put so much stock in Allison Dubois but now that things have come to a head based on what people speculated about, it's fake?

I don't believe it was your intention, but this is misleading. You should only put quotation marks around what someone said verbatim. Quotes do not belong around personal interpretations of what someone said. The actual quote is: "I went to the bank. I took out $10,000 so I could have some money for Christmas gifts." I agree with the other poster that the money was the probably the gift. I also think the cash was going to be the gifts.

It's also possible that people can get fed up or that people change. It doesn't mean that things were fake before. Millions of people get married and divorced.

Reply and just delete the entries you don't want to address.

One of my biggest pet peeves in life is illogic, unfairness, contradictions and hypocrisy. Another pet peeve is people having different sets of rules of people based on biases. Kim put Kyle through hell for years and failed to defend her against Camille then Kathy went on Kyle's show and bashed her to a cast member, yet Kyle's the bad guy? After three out of four of Kathy's children were involved in public racist/homophobic scandals and given Kathy's great friendship with a notorious racist homophobe, I side-eyed her from the beginning. She put on her Rose Nylund act (similar to what Paris did for The Simple Life) and some of the viewers fell in love with her. Kathy had appeared on RHOBH in prior years and on multiple failed reality shows with Paris so I was surprised that people thought the dumb blonde thing wasn't schtick.

Sutton and Kyle are not in a good place now. Even if they were in a good place, Teddi is closer to Kyle, Teddi was probably telling the truth and nobody was in needing comfort in that moment, so I'm not sure how that Teddi said about Sutton and Kyle's state at the reunion are comparable. I don't think Kyle wanted them to drop Kathy. I think it annoys her that Kathy talked shit about all of them and they would rather be quiet about it and not comfort Kyle while she was in distress just so they can keep keep getting invited into Kathy's orbit.

Semantics games are so annoying. Just because someone doesn't say something verbatim doesn't mean they weren't expressing it. It's like X saying Y doesn't tell the truth and when Z says X called Y a liar, X responding, "I never said that!". STFU.

I'm convinced they have dirt on people in production or are secretly sleeping with people in production. They are the two most value-less Housewives of all time. I fast-forward all of their solo scenes.