S12.E03: There's Sutton about Crystal

[FlyingEgret]

Diana: I wouldn't be caught dead wearing this stuff outside my house...

[Surrealist]

I'm confused.

Are they re-litigating the Crystal vs. Sutton incident? 

Or has this morphed into the Crystal vs. Kyle thing?

At any rate, I didn't have any problem with what Crystal said to them. And I didn't even care much for her last season, but am glad she called them out for hypocrisy.

[65mickey]

So previews for next week episode 4 is the continuing saga of Dorit being held at gun point. Handwriting is on the wall folks or this season. Yes where is Kathy Hilton??

[janiema]

Kyle can’t deal with anyone being more popular than she is. Last season Sutton got a lot of popular attention due to the fact that she stood up to Erika. Therefore, Kyle needs to take her down. Can anyone say LVP?

[ichbin]

18 minutes ago, TexasGal said:

Is the store called -

“Kyle

Kyle & Shahida”

Why?  Seriously, why?  It's just so dumb!

[RoseAllDay]

1 minute ago, 65mickey said:

So previews for next week episode 4 is the continuing saga of Dorit being held at gun point. Handwriting is on the wall folks or this season. Yes where is Kathy Hilton??

Kathy’s on WWHL, which I’m not watching. Is she a Friend Of this season? We need her and her butler to come back and save this shitshow.

[goofygirl]

4 minutes ago, Chicklet said:

I went from disliking Kyle last week to I think I hate her. Along with Rinna and Erika.

I think I started HATING Kyle a looooooooooong time ago!  Rinna's held the crown for me longer than anyone and Erika shot right up to the top of the list last year but Kyle??  She's been a snark magnet for quite a while.  She's just SO. RIDICULOUS.  Puke.  And hey peeps? WHERE IS KATHY when we need her??  Is she a one and done or what?

[Surrealist]

50 minutes ago, WaltersHair said:

This Diana chick is acting like all the Housewives just before they got nailed for money 'issues'. I say she goes down next season via Homeland Security.

I did, however, enjoy Diana's dig at Kyle's clothing line and how she could see herself wearing it ".... at her house."

[FlyingEgret]

30 minutes ago, Stats Queen said:

Why is Kyle wearing a bathrobe at her store and Lisa really did forget her pants.

Oh, and Teddi - yes ugh and is she trying to morph into Kyle.

I actually thought Teddi was Kyle when they first showed her in the store- I am sure she would take that as a compliment...

[65mickey]

1 minute ago, janiema said:

Kyle can’t deal with anyone being more popular than she is. Last season Sutton got a lot of popular attention due to the fact that she stood up to Erika. Therefore, Kyle needs to take her down. Can anyone say LVP?

Can anyone say Denise Richards? I am afraid Sutton is this season's LVP and Denise.

[Surrealist]

49 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

I will wait 3 years and buy it … lol yesss Crystal 

Most relatable thing any of them has ever said. That's how I am too. Lol.

[janiema]

I would like at least a third of each episode to feature Sutton, Crystal and Garcelle doing rich lady stuff that is not something that most of us get to do. Let’s add Kathy to that mix too.

[funnygirl]

Garcelle, Crystal, Sutton >>>>>>>>> Fox Force Flops

Every season they try to take someone down. So transparent. They were emboldened after they ganged up on LVP. Then it was Denise. They tried, and quickly failed, with Garcelle. And now the target is Sutton. 

Fucking harpies. 

[Axie]

From the preview, Diana seems to have lost her accent.  Much like Dorito occasionally does.

[Emmeline]

As it appears the season may be a gang up on Sutton, I am remembering the RHONY season when Dorinda and some of the others bullied Tinsley Mortimer.  Tinsley wasn’t even a very interesting cast member but it’s human nature to root for the underdog and that’s what the watchers did.  

I’ve realize why Kyle brought her dogs, they would eat all the leftover food on the plates and she won’t need a cleanup team in the morning.

[Keywestclubkid]

8 minutes ago, Surrealist said:

I'm confused.

Are they re-litigating the Crystal vs. Sutton incident? 

Or has this morphed into the Crystal vs. Kyle thing?

At any rate, I didn't have any problem with what Crystal said to them. And I didn't even care much for her last season, but am glad she called them out for hypocrisy.

She’s pointing out them being hypocritical… they are demanding someone NOT have the reaction they are having because that’s NOT the way the group feels like they should respond. It’s not the groups choice to pick someone’s reaction/response you don’t get to take a group vote and go No you weren’t really feeling that because that’s NOT how I felt 

[goofygirl]

3 minutes ago, janiema said:

I would like at least a third of each episode to feature Sutton, Crystal and Garcelle doing rich lady stuff that is not something that most of us get to do. Let’s add Kathy to that mix too.

I like the way you think!  And if we could just have Rinna disappear for an episode or two, we'd have it made!!  I get the feeling we're in for it when they "reveal" that Lois has passed.  Rinna's gonna go HAM on the acting.

[janiema]

4 minutes ago, Emmeline said:

As it appears the season may be a gang up on Sutton, I am remembering the RHONY season when Dorinda and some of the others bullied Tinsley Mortimer.  Tinsley wasn’t even a very interesting cast member but it’s human nature to root for the underdog and that’s what the watchers did.  

I’ve realize why Kyle brought her dogs, they would eat all the leftover food on the plates and she won’t need a cleanup team in the morning.

It’s always fun watching Kyle’s dogs outsmart her. They probably know what Francophile means.

Edited May 26, 2022 by janiema
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[Surrealist]

7 minutes ago, janiema said:

I would like at least a third of each episode to feature Sutton, Crystal and Garcelle doing rich lady stuff that is not something that most of us get to do. Let’s add Kathy to that mix too.

I would love this show. And it wouldn't be this kind of petty ass mess we're seeing each week.

[Stats Queen]

I was hoping Gus, the caterer was actually Gustavo Fring from Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul. He could have made these women disappear from our TV screens.

[Surrealist]

3 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

She’s pointing out them being hypocritical… they are demanding someone NOT have the reaction they are having because that’s NOT the way the group feels like they should respond. It’s not the groups choice to pick someone’s reaction/response you don’t get to take a group vote and go No you weren’t really feeling that because that’s NOT how I felt 

Thank you! I was following along and then by the end of the episode, I thought, "Wait, what just happened?" Lol.

[Shannah Banana]

I need to get this off my chest.

Diana is an imperious bitch.

I feel much better now.

[janiema]

I can’t believe I am saying this but I am liking Paris Hilton.

[Keywestclubkid]

2 minutes ago, Surrealist said:

Thank you! I was following along and then by the end of the episode, I thought, "Wait, what just happened?" Lol.

Yea it got circular with Kyle then Dorit jumping in to gaslight with that’s not what we’re doing while simultaneously doing just that by telling Crystal she shouldn’t have the reaction she was having to them doing it .. lol I was like how do they not see this. 

1 minute ago, janiema said:

I can’t believe I am saying this but I am liking Paris Hilton.

The show of her getting married was actually good and super insightful in some aspects 

[Axie]

You know what might help Dorito heal?  Maybe not talking about the break in every minute of everyday.

[Keywestclubkid]

13 minutes ago, Axie said:

You know what might help Dorito heal?  Maybe not talking about the break in every minute of everyday.

Editing I can’t sit here and defend Sutton’s reaction while dismissing Dorit’s … do I find it super ODD that she would leave her children hours after their life was threatened by men with guns .. yes I do however that could honestly be her reaction to keep things normal and moving … do I understand it NO but that’s how she reacted … now can I comment on how odd that reaction is to ME ..yes but I can’t tell her that it’s the wrong reaction to have had 

Edited May 26, 2022 by Keywestclubkid

[WaltersHair]

Is Dorit wearing a gold Bitcoin in her talking heads?

Cult Force Five more like it. Look up tactics used by cults to control people and invalidating someone's feelings is high on the list.

Kidding. Mostly.

[mbaywife123]

I just love Garcelle, she is NOT going to fall for all of FFF's bullshit, and will not play the nasty FFF's games or be manipulated by them.

Hang in there Sutton, you have nothing wrong, keep refusing to play the FFF's games. Your apology to Dorit was real and I am glad she understood and accepted it. 

Kyle is a straight up shit stirring hipocritcal bitch.

Also love Chrystal calling the out the FFF's.

Get lost Erika. 

Diana has never shopped in a store before, bitch please.

Wish Rinna would have gone to the restroom and never returned, EVER!

[Keywestclubkid]

7 minutes ago, mbaywife123 said:

I just love Garcelle, she is NOT going to fall for all of FFF's bullshit, and will not play the nasty FFF's games or be manipulated by them.

Hang in there Sutton, you have nothing wrong, keep refusing to play the FFF's games. Your apology to Dorit was real and I am glad she understood and accepted it. 

Kyle is a straight up shit stirring hipocritcal bitch.

Also love Chrystal calling the out the FFF's.

Get lost Erika. 

Diana has never shopped in a store before, bitch please.

Wish Rinna would have gone to the restroom and never returned, EVER!

Erika waving Rinna over to sit with her with that big shit eating grin has both Dorit and Kyle were going in on crystal ….

[janiema]

4 minutes ago, mbaywife123 said:

I just love Garcelle, she is NOT going to fall for all of FFF's bullshit, and will not play the nasty FFF's games or be manipulated by them.

Hang in there Sutton, you have nothing wrong, keep refusing to play the FFF's games. Your apology to Dorit was real and I am glad she understood and accepted it. 

Kyle is a straight up shit stirring hipocritcal bitch.

Also love Chrystal calling the out the FFF's.

Get lost Erika. 

Diana has never shopped in a store before, bitch please.

Wish Rinna would have gone to the restroom and never returned, EVER!

I think Garcelle may be my all-time favorite Housewife. She stands up for herself and her friends. She calls out the stupidity. If a Garcelle had been added to RHONY instead of Eboni that franchise would have done better. Garcelle is the best.

[Arynm]

57 minutes ago, janiema said:

I can’t believe I am saying this but I am liking Paris Hilton.

I agree. I can see she is shy and find that endearing. I know she has some strikes against her for things she has said, but she seemed nice. Kathy came off a little fake for me.

[WaltersHair]

20 minutes ago, mbaywife123 said:

Wish Rinna would have gone to the restroom and never returned, EVER!

There's a great old 70's flick with Cloris Leachman called Dying Room Only. Rinna could use that one.

Erika is not earning her paycheck this year. Also, I assume this cast can't take an out of country vacay because of Erika?

[mbaywife123]

17 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Erika waving Rinna over to sit with her with that big shit eating grin has both Dorit and Kyle were going in on crystal ….

Again, get lost Erika and take the FFF lap dogs out the door with you.

Loved Sutton's TH saying nothing has been proven false about Erika's legal problems and that she is just fine about the questions she asked her and the flashback showing Sutton saying that she thinks that yes indeed they have been lied to.

Heck, even PK and Mo at the stoned dinner (one of the best scenes ever) mocked Erika for her "stories".

Edited May 26, 2022 by mbaywife123

[KenyaJ]

32 minutes ago, mbaywife123 said:

I just love Garcelle, she is NOT going to fall for all of FFF's bullshit, and will not play the nasty FFF's games or be manipulated by them.

She's the best. As much as I could've done without rehashing Kyle telling all the girls about Sutton's comments, I appreciate that Garcelle wouldn't stand for the ladies discussing it behind Sutton's back and forced Kyle to be accountable for what she said. To own it, as Rinna would say shriek.

But by far, the MVP of the episode was Bambi, with River as a close second. Seeing Bambi steal the steak off of Rinna's plate and then countersurf in the kitchen made me howl with laughter. Both of those moves are straight out of my goldendoodle's playbook, and it was so fun to realize someone else has those problems too. I've grown to loathe Kyle, but her dogs are absolutely wonderful and I love them.

Edited May 26, 2022 by KenyaJ

[janiema]

9 minutes ago, Arynm said:

I agree. I can see she is shy and find that endearing. I know she has some strikes against her for things she has said, but she seemed nice. Kathy came off a little fake for me.

I think Kathy is restrained rather than fake. Kim’s experience on the show may have been different if Kathy had been there to support her. As it turned out, Kim was just prey to someone who has big sister resentment issues. 

[rustyspigot]

In what world does Erika deserve an apology? I'm sorry you occasionally emerge from your medicated/drunk state in ugly clothes to spout nonsense.

Does Kyle miss sparring with Kim? What is her fucking deal so far?

And Rinna dresses as a clown.

[mbaywife123]

2 minutes ago, janiema said:

I think Kathy is restrained rather than fake. Kim’s experience on the show may have been different if Kathy had been there to support her. As it turned out, Kim was just prey to someone who has big sister resentment issues. 

Kim could have benefited from Kathy being there to speak up for her, however Kim was full blown addict in the past seasons lest we forget her indignant " good day to you" scene and climbing over the guardrail walk off into the woods.

[Lassus]

This may be the stupidest group conversation in Housewives history; and think of how low THAT bar is.

Is it just me, or has Dorit just completely lost her accent in this episode?

[ZettaK]

Bravo is 100% responsible for giving Erika a forum to constantly claim everything that was said by Sutton about her was disproven (for the viewers who don't check other sources to hear), and allowing her to bully the group to gang up on Sutton because she supposedly has issues with all the women (she is "the common denominator").  

[janiema]

If we think back to season One and the ridiculously expensive birthday party that Taylor Armstrong threw for het daughter, that is really what we wang to see. We knew even then that Taylor couldn’t afford it but the glimpse as to what could be purchased and provided gave us an insight as to how the rich might live. These stupid arguments don’t. The way to make this show work is to get rid of the arguers: Kyle, Erika and Rinna. They are past their sell by dates.

[Cosmocrush]

I kind of love that Kyle is not only practical enough to keep (and wear) her Manolos but to announce it.  Full disclosure - my single pair of Manolo Blahniks is also from 2004 (an homage to Carrie Bradshaw - see screen name)  and if I still wore high heels I would still wear them.  😉

[heatherchandler]

F you Diana Jenkins.  I don’t like you.

F you Erika, get off my tv.

F you Kyle, the only thing I like about you is your dogs.

[dbell1]

Can we throw Kyle out of her own house? I swear the only redeeming feature she has is her dogs. Dogs are smart, they know Rinna will only push the food around.

Is the coven pissed at Sutton for bringing the receipts proving she wasn’t lying about the table? Or are they upset that she had a genuine accepted apology that had to be rehashed? Or do they know if it gets settled quickly we have to talk about Erica’s increasingly tacky 80’s windbreaker wardrobe and shrieks of denials? Or Dorit’s increasingly convoluted ever changing break in story?

[Cosmocrush]

3 hours ago, Stats Queen said:

Why is Kyle wearing a bathrobe at her store and Lisa really did forget her pants.

If you look around I think it's a bathrobe store.  Or maybe that was the last store.   

Wow, these women are really wearing quite the a collection of fugly crap. 

[Straycat80]

I was enjoying this episode of watching rich ladies looking at clothes and smoozing until they had to bring up the gun to the head comment AGAIN. Thanks Kyle for stirring the pot and shooting off your big mouth. Dorito accepted Sutton’s apology and I thought it was over but no, Garcelle had to bring it up again at the house. Now we have to relive the Sutton/ Crystal drama from last season and then Erika has to bring up her Sutton drama from last season too.

I guess they can’t come up with any new storylines? And I hate that Diana had to critique Sutton when she was not around last season and doesn’t even know Sutton. I hate that everyone is ganging up on Sutton.

And Erika can STFU about not affording a ring and things are ‘grim’ when we were shown a room full of clothes and jewelry and her glam squad waiting on her. 
I love dogs, Kyle’s dogs live a charmed life,  stealing steak and helping themselves to the food on the counter. 

[Axie]

I love Kyle’s dogs.  I have a very difficult dog who has had extensive, expensive training to no avail, so, I appreciate watching her dogs, who probably also have been trained, behaving so badly.   It’s not just my dog!

[hoodooznoodooz]

Okay, I read here that Erika’s Burberry jumpsuit was ugly. But that still didn’t prepare me for that hideous schmatta.

Ugly colors. Ugly flowers. 

[Surrealist]

2 hours ago, WaltersHair said:

Also, I assume this cast can't take an out of country vacay because of Erika?

I don't know why not. All charges against Erika have been dropped. Haven't you heard? Do you know who backed up Erika with the evidence? Erika.

[SemiCharmedLife]

4 hours ago, RoseAllDay said:

Shahida does the work, Kyle gets the credit and most of the profit, probably.

Just like the runway show, Kyle waltzes in at the last minute, getting stressed out and anxious.  Maybe  she should involve herself in the days/months leading up to the opening if she wants everything to be a certain way.  

[Surrealist]

I still think Dorit is a performance artist.