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I value my freedom. You know what I also value? Other people's rights and health.  I am not the most altruistic person, but I can get over myself long enough to contribute the barest minimum to a fuck

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28 minutes ago, AgentRXS said:

She’s just gonna stay gorgeous her whole life, huh?! Even Ralph Carter looks older than her.

True, Miss Stanis looks as though she could be a Lena Horne for the New Millenium.

 

However, on the bright side, Mr. Carter and Mr. Walker now appear as though they may have been the actual progeny of John Amos and the late Esther Rolle. 

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Technically, this is old news but since Miss Shields has brought it up, here's the link to the recent interview in which she brought up how Barbara Walters had the poor taste to 'ask a series of intimate and invasive questions' about her sexual history- when Miss Shields was 15!

 Unless Miss Walters is too deep in the throes of dementia to sincerely have any inkling about what she did way back then, IMO, she DOES deserve to get called out for having asked such inappropriate questions to a minor (and somewhat contributing to said minor being more vulnerable to creeps and perverts). But IMO what's even more infuriating, in retrospect, about this was that there was little if any outcry or objections made to Miss Walters for  having deliberately put Miss Shields in a more vulnerable position  from the network or, AFIAK, the viewers back then. It seemed that, for too long, Miss Walters was given carte blanche to run roughshod over and sensationalize even minor interviewees (and this was by no means the only time Miss Walters pulled this kind of crap)- yet just was overpraised and worshiped to the end of her 'career' (especially towards the end). 

 

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/brooke-shields-says-barbara-walters-022308278.html

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Katy M

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1 hour ago, Blergh said:

Technically, this is old news but since Miss Shields has brought it up, here's the link to the recent interview in which she brought up how Barbara Walters had the poor taste to 'ask a series of intimate and invasive questions' about her sexual history- when Miss Shields was 15!

 Unless Miss Walters is too deep in the throes of dementia to sincerely have any inkling about what she did way back then, IMO, she DOES deserve to get called out for having asked such inappropriate questions to a minor (and somewhat contributing to said minor being more vulnerable to creeps and perverts). But IMO what's even more infuriating, in retrospect, about this was that there was little if any outcry or objections made to Miss Walters for  having deliberately put Miss Shields in a more vulnerable position  from the network or, AFIAK, the viewers back then. It seemed that, for too long, Miss Walters was given carte blanche to run roughshod over and sensationalize even minor interviewees (and this was by no means the only time Miss Walters pulled this kind of crap)- yet just was overpraised and worshiped to the end of her ;career' (especially at the end). 

 

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/brooke-shields-says-barbara-walters-022308278.html

I remember that maybe about 20 years ago I saw a snippet of The View on Talk Soup and Barbara Walters was mocking a guy  (a random anonymous guy for whatever that's worth) in his 20s because he wanted to wait for marriage. She was virgin shaming him. I'd never given her much thought one way or the other prior to that point, but have an antifan (I think I just made up a word) ever since.

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Wiendish Fitch

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I don't blame Brooke Shields for holding that interview against Barbara Walters. What a gross thing to ask a kid! 

I don't like Barbara Walters... and that's all I'm going to say, because if I listed the reasons they'd just lead us down an ugly political rabbit hole.

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RealHousewife

RealHousewife

3 hours ago, Blergh said:

Technically, this is old news but since Miss Shields has brought it up, here's the link to the recent interview in which she brought up how Barbara Walters had the poor taste to 'ask a series of intimate and invasive questions' about her sexual history- when Miss Shields was 15!

 Unless Miss Walters is too deep in the throes of dementia to sincerely have any inkling about what she did way back then, IMO, she DOES deserve to get called out for having asked such inappropriate questions to a minor (and somewhat contributing to said minor being more vulnerable to creeps and perverts). But IMO what's even more infuriating, in retrospect, about this was that there was little if any outcry or objections made to Miss Walters for  having deliberately put Miss Shields in a more vulnerable position  from the network or, AFIAK, the viewers back then. It seemed that, for too long, Miss Walters was given carte blanche to run roughshod over and sensationalize even minor interviewees (and this was by no means the only time Miss Walters pulled this kind of crap)- yet just was overpraised and worshiped to the end of her 'career' (especially towards the end). 

 

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/brooke-shields-says-barbara-walters-022308278.html

I know the culture's changed a lot, but it's amazing what was considered appropriate to ask children at one point. I can see certain questions being expected if an adult decides to go on Howard Stern or something (not that I love his type of show), but respected journalists asking minors about their sex lives? I hate that stuff with adults too. I LOVE Oprah, but I remember she asked Michael Jackson if he was a virgin. So not cool. The only way I can see any of these questions not being completely out of bounds is if it's a celebrity who brings up the subject themselves. 

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1 hour ago, proserpina65 said:
On 12/6/2021 at 12:01 AM, SunnyBeBe said:

Hmmmm….I don’t recall anything scandalous  with Billy Graham, Sr.  

He's the only real exception I can think of.

His son makes up for it and taints the dad for me a little.

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On 12/5/2021 at 11:01 PM, SunnyBeBe said:

Hmmmm….I don’t recall anything scandalous  with Billy Graham, Sr.  

Same here! However; it should be noted that whenever he would travel and stay somewhere besides his own abode, for many decades Rev. Graham, Sr. always had one of his aides look under the mattress he was to sleep in- so as not to chance some groupie attempting to frame and/or have her way with him. 

 One may read the above as being extra-cautious OR wonder why he would have considered looking under there. . .

 

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bobalina

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18 minutes ago, Blergh said:

Same here! However; it should be noted that whenever he would travel and stay somewhere besides his own abode, for many decades Rev. Graham, Sr. always had one of his aides look under the mattress he was to sleep in- so as not to chance some groupie attempting to frame and/or have her way with him. 

 One may read the above as being extra-cautious OR wonder why he would have considered looking under there. . .

 

Maybe this happened to him and he wasn't going to have a repeat. Groupies can be relentless

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I feel like every so often people bring up a rude/invasive celebrity interview from Barbara Walters, Oprah, David Letterman, Diane Sawyer, Katie Couric, etc. but it never goes anywhere. Matt Lauer and Ellen DeGeneres were brought down by things other than their poor interview skills. Unless a celebrity has committed a crime or something it's weird to put on an investigative journalist hat to grill them. Politicians are fine but it really makes little sense for regular celebs who aren't caught up in some kind of scandal like some recent Gayle King interviews. Most of the examples people point out are not substantive questions. I wonder what goes on behind the scenes. Is it something the reporters push for because they feel like they're in competition with each other? The network pushing for something salacious? Competition with tabloids and TMZ? I do think it's fair to criticize the individual interviewers but there had to be a reason this was so prevalent 

https://www.buzzfeed.com/ajanibazile/messed-up-celebrity-interviews

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Kel Varnsen

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22 hours ago, Wiendish Fitch said:

I don't blame Brooke Shields for holding that interview against Barbara Walters. What a gross thing to ask a kid! 

Based on the two articles I read, the questions she was asking a kid were pretty bad. Although I do wonder if Shields is mad at Barbara Walters (which she totally should be) how does she feel about her own parents? Because asking a 15 year old sexual questions in a tv interview is really bad. But putting your 12 year old in a movie where she plays a prostitute and has to do nudity is so much worse.

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14 hours ago, Zella said:

I've long thought Barbara Walters was a really unprofessional asshole. 

Agree but, since Miss Walters got PAID even after asking these rude and intrusive question, that made her a professional. . . 

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5 hours ago, aradia22 said:

I feel like every so often people bring up a rude/invasive celebrity interview from Barbara Walters, Oprah, David Letterman, Diane Sawyer, Katie Couric, etc. but it never goes anywhere. Matt Lauer and Ellen DeGeneres were brought down by things other than their poor interview skills. Unless a celebrity has committed a crime or something it's weird to put on an investigative journalist hat to grill them. Politicians are fine but it really makes little sense for regular celebs who aren't caught up in some kind of scandal like some recent Gayle King interviews. Most of the examples people point out are not substantive questions. I wonder what goes on behind the scenes. Is it something the reporters push for because they feel like they're in competition with each other? The network pushing for something salacious? Competition with tabloids and TMZ? I do think it's fair to criticize the individual interviewers but there had to be a reason this was so prevalent 

https://www.buzzfeed.com/ajanibazile/messed-up-celebrity-interviews

Alas, even by the early 1980's, it seems the viewing public had long since gotten somewhat  inured  to crassness, rudeness and vulgarity on the part of interviewers!

I can recall a local noontime chat show in the mid 1970's with a live audience in which the host started asking intrusive and personal questions of a guest- and the audience openly booed him with one woman directly dissing him by saying 'You're NOT Phil Donahue!'

He didn't do that again .  . . for a few years but I have to wonder if that kind of intrusiveness would have been derailed had audiences KEPT openly booing and dissing those hosts who attempted this? Perhaps, audience members got tired of their objections being ignored and dismissed which  hosts/interviewers interpreted to mean tacit approval. 

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1 hour ago, Blergh said:

Perhaps, audience members got tired of their objections being ignored and dismissed which  hosts/interviewers interpreted to mean tacit approval. 

Maybe not so much not booing, but if you continue to watch said interviewer after 2 times of such behavior (once can be an aberration or misstep), then yes, you are tacitly approving.

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4 hours ago, Kel Varnsen said:

Although I do wonder if Shields is mad at Barbara Walters (which she totally should be) how does she feel about her own parents? Because asking a 15 year old sexual questions in a tv interview is really bad. But putting your 12 year old in a movie where she plays a prostitute and has to do nudity is so much worse.

I remember Brooke as a young girl losing a lawsuit over private photos specifically because the judge ruled they were no worse than stills from the movies she made.

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19 hours ago, Zella said:

I've long thought Barbara Walters was a really unprofessional asshole. 

I used to think she was a deservedly respected pioneer for women in the journalism field, then she picked Amal Clooney for her Most Fascinating Person of the Year. Amal Clooney has multiple degrees in law, is a human rights lawyer who worked at the International Court Of Justice in The Hague, worked on numerous high profile human rights cases in London, gave a speech at the United Nations, & is a very accomplished woman in her own right. So why does Barbara pick her as Most Fascinating Person of the Year? BECAUSE SHE MARRIED WELL. Even typing that makes my blood boil. Fuck Barbara Walters.

20 hours ago, Blergh said:

Same here! However; it should be noted that whenever he would travel and stay somewhere besides his own abode, for many decades Rev. Graham, Sr. always had one of his aides look under the mattress he was to sleep in- so as not to chance some groupie attempting to frame and/or have her way with him. 

 One may read the above as being extra-cautious OR wonder why he would have considered looking under there. . .

 

20 hours ago, bobalina said:

Maybe this happened to him and he wasn't going to have a repeat. Groupies can be relentless

This immediately made me think of David Cassidy. He was always finding groupies waiting for him in his hotel bed (univited)

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Baldwin says he never pulled the trigger. Experts are skeptical.
 

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But several gun experts increasingly say this scenario does not make sense unless there was a serious mechanical defect with the gun — which should have been obvious before it was used.

If reports are correct that Baldwin was handling a reproduction of a single-action revolver, said to be a F. LL1 Pietta Long Colt 45 Revolver, this design would allow for four spots to hold the hammer in place as it is pulled back. ...

Nothing is supposed to happen if only the hammer is pulled back and resting on a sear — which holds the hammer in place — even if the gun is dropped.

But when enough pressure is applied to the trigger, a bar releases the sear, which releases the hammer and then the gun fires.

 

The experts they consulted are all pretty much "Mmm, nope."

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6 hours ago, Blergh said:

Agree but, since Miss Walters got PAID even after asking these rude and intrusive question, that made her a professional. . . 

I wasn't commenting on that. I was simply saying I always found her behavior very unprofessional for a professional journalist. 

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3 hours ago, Crs97 said:

I remember Brooke as a young girl losing a lawsuit over private photos specifically because the judge ruled they were no worse than stills from the movies she made.

It's amazing how normal Brooke is considering all the bs she's gone through. 

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I went down the rabbit hole to find an article about the court case, and it was way worse than I remembered.  Mom allowed the photographer to take nude photos of a 10 year old Brooke for $450.  He continued to sell the photos, and the court just said he couldn’t sell them to pornographic magazines.  While a dissenting judge said Brooke shouldn’t have to continue to suffer for her mother’s bad judgment, the majority upheld the contract.  It really is amazing she survived; I totally agree with you, RealHousewife!!

https://www.nytimes.com/1983/03/30/nyregion/brooke-shields-loses-court-case.html

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2 hours ago, Vermicious Knid said:

The experts they consulted are all pretty much "Mmm, nope."

Haven't there also been articles with expert opinion stating that it's possible?  I'm at the point of this where I want to wait until the investigation is complete.  He might have.  He might not have.  It's possible he did and has zero recollection of doing it--which shouldn't matter if it's a prop gun. 

It's just a very sad situation. 

 

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1 hour ago, Irlandesa said:

Haven't there also been articles with expert opinion stating that it's possible?  I'm at the point of this where I want to wait until the investigation is complete.  He might have.  He might not have.  It's possible he did and has zero recollection of doing it--which shouldn't matter if it's a prop gun. 

It's just a very sad situation. 

 

I agree with you. Even some of the experts in the article posted admit it’s possible if there was a serious mechanical failure. They all are basically saying it is very, very unlikely and if it happened it would be a catastrophic failure with that particular gun and they don’t believe it happened. To me, I really question how they can be certain when the person responsible for maintaining the guns also swears there were no live rounds on the set. I understand gun experts don’t want to create fear of guns just going off but clearly this particular gun was not maintained as it should have been. It’s not much of a stretch that she would have let a defective weapon slide by on the odds that it wasn’t likely to have a problem. Plenty of people take risks on things like that assuming that this won’t be the one in a million time something goes wrong. 

It reminds be of the Mythbusters on bullets being shot straight up being deadly. Based on the science they said it wasn’t true and also declared it plausible and confirmed because it has happened. There are plenty of things that science will say is impossible even when it does happen occasionally. 

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1 hour ago, Irlandesa said:

It's possible he did and has zero recollection of doing it--which shouldn't matter if it's a prop gun. 

This is key.  Even if he did pull the trigger (without meaning to [e.g. without realizing he'd moved his finger enough to do so], or even intentionally as part of blocking the scene) but his mind has now convinced himself he didn't because inadvertently causing a death is too painful to live with, it doesn't say anything about his culpability - as an actor; depending on his producer responsibilities, he could be held partially liable due to lax hiring and oversight practices - because if the gun was as it should have been and was stated to him to be by the people responsible for ensuring that, he could have fired that trigger all day long and this wouldn't have happened.

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1 hour ago, Bastet said:

This is key.  Even if he did pull the trigger (without meaning to [e.g. without realizing he'd moved his finger enough to do so], or even intentionally as part of blocking the scene) but his mind has now convinced himself he didn't because inadvertently causing a death is too painful to live with, it doesn't say anything about his culpability - as an actor; depending on his producer responsibilities, he could be held partially liable due to lax hiring and oversight practices - because if the gun was as it should have been and was stated to him to be by the people responsible for ensuring that, he could have fired that trigger all day long and this wouldn't have happened.

In the interview he did Baldwin said the only say he had as a producer was some say in casting.

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2 hours ago, MargeGunderson said:

We have quite a thread on this topic here. Celebration underway.

That was a wonderful thread to read and be a (for me small) part of while this was going on. So many good posters; some with law degrees and experience in this field of law. It never got out of hand. Great snark too. Indeed, those of us who have kept up with this for years (from his earlier molestations), today is indeed a good day. Justice was served. 

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I'm putting this out pre-emptively - any mention of what you hope happens to him in prison will result in a warning or stronger. You might want to check out that thread, rules about that family and all other site rules are in effect here. 

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After stating in his testimony  that he knew the alleged culprits of the crime, did drugs, and even made out with one of them, I knew he was going to be found guilty. It just made no sense that two guys he was acquainted with one of whom on such an intimate level, would turn around and attack him in the middle of the night, using racial and homophobic slurs. It also didn’t help that he hung out with the “attackers” days before the attack driving around the area where the crime happened.

I’m just wondering why he would do this when he had such a promising career? He was probably one the most popular, if not the most popular actor on Empire. I think he had the potential for success after the show. For him to do this makes no sense. And makes me think he is mentally unstable. 

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1 hour ago, Enero said:

After stating in his testimony  that he knew the alleged culprits of the crime, did drugs, and even made out with one of them, I knew he was going to be found guilty. It just made no sense that two guys he was acquainted with one of whom on such an intimate level, would turn around and attack him in the middle of the night, using racial and homophobic slurs. It also didn’t help that he hung out with the “attackers” days before the attack driving around the area where the crime happened.

I’m just wondering why he would do this when he had such a promising career? He was probably one the most popular, if not the most popular actor on Empire. I think he had the potential for success after the show. For him to do this makes no sense. And makes me think he is mentally unstable. 

Agreed. I loved him on “Empire” until this mess. Why would you throw your career down the toilet like this? I truly hope he seeks therapy/treatment for whatever led him to self-destruct on such an epic level.

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2 hours ago, Enero said:

After stating in his testimony  that he knew the alleged culprits of the crime, did drugs, and even made out with one of them, I knew he was going to be found guilty.

I followed this case early on and then hadn't paid the trial much attention (distracted with the Duggar case instead), but when I read Jussie's own testimony the other day, it was just a really wild ride. 

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13 hours ago, Enero said:

After stating in his testimony  that he knew the alleged culprits of the crime, did drugs, and even made out with one of them, I knew he was going to be found guilty. It just made no sense that two guys he was acquainted with one of whom on such an intimate level, would turn around and attack him in the middle of the night, using racial and homophobic slurs. It also didn’t help that he hung out with the “attackers” days before the attack driving around the area where the crime happened.

I can't help but recall this Dave Chapelle routine about Jussie Smollet.  (Contains nasty language)

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17 hours ago, BetterButter said:

 

Good.  It's difficult enough for victims of real hate crimes to be believed to begin with; shit like Smollett pulled does not help at all.  He probably won't get jail time, but at least his hoax has been exposed publicly and there will be some punishment.

 

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14 hours ago, AgentRXS said:

Agreed. I loved him on “Empire” until this mess. Why would you throw your career down the toilet like this? I truly hope he seeks therapy/treatment for whatever led him to self-destruct on such an epic level.

I'm guessing to be more rich and famous. If you didn't watch the show (I didn't) chances are you didn't know who he was before this (I didn't). Now most people know his name but who is going to hire him.

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“Do we dare forget the Diane Sawyer interview in my apartment almost 20 years ago,” Spears wrote in what looks like a Notes app post shared to Instagram. “What was with the ‘you’re in the wrong’ approach?? Geeze… and making me cry???” Spears also revealed that, in the wake of her public breakup with Timberlake, she spent a lot of time alone in her apartment and “couldn’t talk,” and that she felt forced into doing the 20/20 interview by her father, Jamie Spears, and a manager. (Spears doesn’t name the manager, but fans know that Larry Rudolph, her longtime manager, was working for her at the time.) “My manager put that woman in my home and made me talk to her on national television,” Spears alleged in her post.

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Elsewhere in the post, Spears also commented on her career, hinting that her performing days may be over. “My first three years in the biz and on the road were great, but I’ll be completely honest and say that after those three tours and the pace I was going… I don’t think I ever want to do it again!!!!”

https://www.thecut.com/2021/12/britney-spears-reflects-on-her-2003-diane-sawyer-interview.html

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Human remains found 40 years earlier identified as Frank Little Jr a former member of The O'Jay's.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/14/us/ojays-frank-frankie-little-jr-remains-identified-cold-case-trnd/index.html

https://www.beaconjournal.com/story/news/2021/12/14/twinsburg-remains-identified-through-dna-genealogy-research-the-o-jays-r-b-band-canton/6500806001/

https://people.com/crime/human-remains-found-in-bag-40-years-ago-identified-as-guitarist-of-rb-group-the-ojays/

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Judge upholds charges against Tory Lanez in shooting of Megan Thee Stallion.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-12-14/judge-upholds-assault-charges-against-tory-lanez

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/l-a-county-judge-upholds-assault-charges-against-tory-lanez-in-hollywood-shooting-of-megan-thee-stallion/

https://variety.com/2021/music/news/tory-lanez-yelled-dance-b-before-shooting-at-megan-thee-stallion-detective-claims-1235133043/

 

 

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On 12/14/2021 at 3:03 AM, aradia22 said:

https://www.thecut.com/2021/12/britney-spears-reflects-on-her-2003-diane-sawyer-interview.html

I have to wonder if Miss Sawyer had known at the time that Miss Spears was evidently pressured to do that interview at a rather vulnerable time in her life by those who it seems were more concerned about their own bottom lines (via publicity) than her well being, if Miss Sawyer would have toned down dissing Miss Spears or cancelled the interview? Somehow I doubt it.

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2 hours ago, Blergh said:

I have to wonder if Miss Sawyer had known at the time that Miss Spears was evidently pressured to do that interview at a rather vulnerable time in her life by those who it seems were more concerned about their own bottom lines (via publicity) than her well being, if Miss Sawyer would have toned down dissing Miss Spears or cancelled the interview? Somehow I doubt it.

She's a journalist not an entertainment reporter. They tend to ask harder questions than the fluff that entertainment reporters does.

Britney was in the entertainment business and old enough to know what she was getting into.  She could have said no. She was an adult. She wasn't under conservatorship at the time. 

Her boyfriend broke up with her. Since the reason whispered out in the world was that she cheated on him multi times was contradictory to the image that she portrayed at that time those questioned had to be expected. 

 

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