S16.E01: Premiere

[tennisgurl]

This seems like a pretty good group, but I also thought that about Hannah's season and she ended up with the absolute bottom of the barrel so that doesn't guarantee success. 

Is "Claire is 39" the new "Colton is a virgin"?

[EllenB]

I don't think I heard her say "like" as a sentence-stretcher once! And only one or two "ums" that I noticed.  Hot damn!

[Ms Blue Jay]

THESE PREVIEWS OH MY GOD I LOVE IT I LOVE IT I LOVE IT HAAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

"You thought Colton jumping over the fence was something?"  (Honestly I did, i Loved every second of it and I rewound it a million times) WELL GET READY TO SEE CLAIRE JUMP OVER 15 FENCES IN A ROW

[Kiss my mutt]

Yosef is one cocky pos. No surprise he’s in medical sales. Douche bro. 
Rule breaker guy Blake from Canada is all rugged mountain wilderness man with such a sweetness about him. Yummy. 

[nutty1]

Brandon is extremely handsome (I know his name only from the rose ceremony). Did we see him speak?

[Ms Blue Jay]

3 minutes ago, EllenB said:

I don't think I heard her say "like" as a sentence-stretcher once! And only one or two "ums" that I noticed.  Hot damn!

That's what you get with a real adult!  It's so much more fun when someone can speak!

[nutty1]

5 minutes ago, EllenB said:

I don't think I heard her say "like" as a sentence-stretcher once! And only one or two "ums" that I noticed.  Hot damn!

What an extremely pleasant surprise!!!!!!

[Kiss my mutt]

I wonder if the Page’s tattoos were a deal breaker for Clare? He seems way too intense and temperamental to me. Good he went home. Tyler seemed too effeminate for Clare so not surprised he’s gone. 
Did the boy band manager get sent home? Please say yes. 
I don’t get very good vibes from Dale. He seems like a take it or leave it kind of guy though he does have a kind demeanor about him like he appears to be listening. I hope it’s not a bait and switch, too good to be true thing. I’d hate for her to get hurt again. 
Can’t wait to find out who she gave that nice send off speech about in the previews. I was like, “yes ma’am!”  

[Callaphera]

Caveat: I've never seen this show before, I might or might not watch it ever again, but I had it on in the background while making dinner and doing stuff.

I just wanna know if the dude in the straitjacket did that on purpose or if the pickin's were so slim that they visited the local House for the Criminally Insane to fill out the cast (it's 2020, you never know these days).  I mean, I assume you have to be a little bit insane in order to go on a TV show and makeout with 20 randos in hopes of finding your true love and not the clap but the straitjacket was a choice and I appreciated that every time I looked at the screen, there would be Straitjacket Dude just kinda lurking in the corner. 

Straitjacket Dude 2020: You'd be insane not to choose him.

[Suzysite]

1 minute ago, Kiss my mutt said:

Did the boy band manager get sent home? Please say yes. 
 

Nope, he stayed. Doggy shirt did it.

[Kiss my mutt]

I hope the straight jacket guy was not the mental health addictions specialist because that would just be so wrong. It’s already in poor taste to me anyway. I missed his intro so I have no idea why he went with that gimmick. 

[saber5055]

2 minutes ago, Kiss my mutt said:

Did the boy band manager get sent home? Please say yes. 

That's Kenny and he's still there. To his credit, he's 39, a plus in my book.

I kept a list as they got out of the limo so I would know who is still there and how old everyone is. I missed a couple of guys but figure I'll catch up with them next episode or two.

The previews are AWESOME! I hope this lasts for many eps before I have to bail because ... well, you know.

[anniebird]

Is the bar set so low that "showing up" makes you a hero? She must have said that 10 times.

[saber5055]

Just now, Kiss my mutt said:

I missed his intro so I have no idea why he went with that gimmick. 

I think it was because pandemic, no touching.

[OnTime]

So she was on Bachelor in Paradise two times?? What happened on those shows?

[Ms Blue Jay]

13 minutes ago, JenE4 said:

So, “blowing up the show” for Dale happens while there are still 15 OTHER guys there?!? I heard it happened fast, but we also saw her making out with a LOT of different guys on all different dates. Eazy even said he was falling in love! 

LOOOOOOL how many guys are there NOW?!?!?!?

[Callaphera]

2 minutes ago, saber5055 said:

I think it was because pandemic, no touching.

Wouldn't a hermetically sealed human sized hamster ball be more effective? 

[saber5055]

1 minute ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

LOOOOOOL how many guys are there NOW?!?!?!?

23 after tonight's RC. I kept track!

2 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

Wouldn't a hermetically sealed human sized hamster ball be more effective? 

I think some other guy beat him to it so he had to do the strait jacket. They were almost out of props by then.

[DEL901]

5 minutes ago, anniebird said:

Is the bar set so low that "showing up" makes you a hero? She must have said that 10 times.

I don’t think it is just about showing up per se, the show was delayed months and then they had to come and quarantine 14 days fir a show that is usually filmed over 45 days, max.   So those guys who went home the “first night”, have actually been there for weeks already only to get rejected night 1 of filming.  

[Callaphera]

1 minute ago, saber5055 said:

I think some other guy beat him to it so he had to do the strait jacket. They were almost out of props by then.

Wait, so they don't do their own silly little prop/opening whatever thing? The show just takes them to a Spirit Hallowe'en warehouse and what you get is what you get? I guess that makes sense. You can't expect 30 IG models to all be both handsome and witty. 

Straitjacket dude should have looked at his call sheet and been on time. This is why I'm always five minutes early to everything - that way, I don't get stuck with the straitjacket. 

[scenicbyway]

9 minutes ago, DEL901 said:

I don’t think it is just about showing up per se, the show was delayed months and then they had to come and quarantine 14 days fir a show that is usually filmed over 45 days, max.   So those guys who went home the “first night”, have actually been there for weeks already only to get rejected night 1 of filming.  

Also thinking about the time they had to take off from work during a pandemic when jobs are on the line anyway. It would be annoying to be sent home night one.

I’m not convinced Clare wants to find love.  Dale said “like” every third word in their convo.  He could’ve just been nervous but I couldn’t see what she saw as a 40 year old woman.

I was disappointed in the ages of the guys no 27 or 30 year old is going to be that interested in her for that long.  If she wants kids it needs to happen yesterday. Unfair but true.

[Laurie4H]

3 minutes ago, scenicbyway said:

 

I was disappointed in the ages of the guys no 27 or 30 year old is going to be that interested in her for that long.  If she wants kids it needs to happen yesterday. Unfair but true.

I think some might like older woman.  My friend is 42 and just had her first child with her 28 year old boyfriend.  It happens.  But most of these people just want to be on tv.  I just can’t handle the gimmicks and how the Bachelor/Bachelorette has to act so surprised and happy.  It’s so contrived.  It all seems fake to me.  Like Claire almost in tears because one guy broke the rules and reached out to her during quarantine?  To be that emotional over something trivial from some guy she hasn’t even met?   Doesn’t she have friends and family to talk to?  Quarantine was that hard that some guy she doesn’t know reaching out to her reduces her to tears?  I mean come on.  

[Arkay]

26 minutes ago, anniebird said:

Is the bar set so low that "showing up" makes you a hero? She must have said that 10 times.

I think that's the mantra because that's what her deceased father had said about her, having courage or something to just keep showing up. The phrase that annoyed me was her endlessly saying "I love it" after every little gimmick the men did after their limo exits. I would say that I hope that won't be this season's "let's do the damn thing," except that we all know what is expected to happen shortly. 

[dizzyd]

23 minutes ago, saber5055 said:

23 after tonight's RC. I kept track

You’re really dedicated 😂 You go girl, we need a reference guide. 

[saber5055]

6 minutes ago, scenicbyway said:

I was disappointed in the ages of the guys no 27 or 30 year old is going to be that interested in her for that long.

Color me extremely disappointed about those little kid ages. There were 11 in their 20s, seven that were 30/31. A 38 and a 40 got sent home. Blake the professional manscaper is the oldest at 41. Boy Band Kenny is 39.

2 minutes ago, dizzyd said:

You’re really dedicated 😂 You go girl, we need a reference guide. 

I wanted to try it this time, keeping track of names/ages/occupations, who stays, who goes. Because I usually don't know who anyone is until hometowns, and even then I don't always know who is what person. I like Clare and was invested in her season. I'll be keeping my list for a few more weeks anyway.

[tinkerbell]

1 hour ago, JenE4 said:

“Whenever I had my daughter...” Sir, do you not know when you had your daughter? Oh, he’s the Here for the Wrong Reasons guy, so his poor grammar is the least of his problems. They are from the same random small town?

that is a weird affectation I have heard from young people recently.  they substitute "whenever" for "when" and the sentence doesn't mean the same thing.  

I really hate that we're supposed to believe the guys came up with all these gimmicks on their own, instead of being assigned gimmicks by the producers.  And I hate how  awful some of them were. 

I feel so sorry for any of the guys who waited, quarantined, met Claire and then were sent home.  

[Wandering Snark]

Really tattooed hands guy?? You're surprised to not be making a good enough first impression and having been sent home? I'd guess this will be a theme in your life. There are multiple hand tattoos going on there, which means lots of planning but not much consideration of what the real world would think of them. I'd say that's a walking 'not the sharpest knife in the drawer' red flag. Here's a hint: find someone with tattoos or someone who at least likes them maybe. There are ways to find people who do, try that instead.

Why does straitjacket dude have to keep his straitjacket on all night (and into the morning) but suit of armor guy gets to take his off (and leave it out in the yard)?? Not cool. I bet he was dehydrated by night's/morning's end!

Edited October 14, 2020 by Wandering Snark

[rebel2u]

Oh, I didn't realize how much I missed everyone till I started reading the comments!  (Does that make me sound pathetic?  If so, I'm ok with it.) Yeah, Straitjacket Guy.  Could he not get out of the straitjacket and no one would help him or what?  Either way, I salute you, sir.  You played it till the end (i.e. the RC, where he received a rose.) Bosawks, I love your dogs!  Maybe we should all post pictures of our pets!  Clare started it, bringing her adorable dogs with her to her covid-free locale.  We can all follow suit, virtually!  Wasn't Nick Viall 39 when he was The Bachelor?  I don't recall anyone making a big deal out of his age, no catcalling about him being one of the oldest bachelors. Per the previews, looks like the contestant pointing out Clare's age got his ass handed to him by her.  Nice.  I totally get Clare's reaction to Dale.  I went on a tour to Europe when I was younger, one of the 4-countries- in-2-weeks-with-1-suitcase type of tour and met an Irish guy in a pub in Dublin.  It was thunderbolt city for me.  We spent the next day together but parted without plans to keep in touch.  I was a very young 26 and just wasn't ready.  So I say to Clare, you go, girlfriend.  If it feels so right from the beginning, see it through to the end; no regrets.  Eazy for the next Bachelor?  I'm in!  

Edited October 14, 2020 by rebel2u

[RealHousewife]

2 hours ago, Kiss my mutt said:

Yosef is really pushing the daughter thing like, hey “I can’t be a bad guy because I’m a daddy!” Send them both home. 

Why do so many fathers and mothers think the title of parent must mean they're good, kind, responsible, and mature? There are way too many parents (including fathers of daughters) who are still players, irresponsible, not good people, even if they are good to their children. 

[ECM1231]

40 minutes ago, rebel2u said:

Wasn't Nick Viall 39 when he was The Bachelor?  I don't recall anyone making a big deal out of his age, no catcalling about him being one of the oldest bachelors.

Nick is now 40. He was around 36 when he was The Bachelor. I think fly fisherman Byron was our oldest Bachelor. He was either 39 or 40 iirc.

Clare is so pretty and has a great figure but I don't know that many 39 year old women who would be that interested in men in their 20s or even early 30s. I think 35-44 would have been much more appropriate.

[rebel2u]

Yes, I think it was Byron Velvick who was the oldest bachelor.  (Had to look that up.)

One of the guys told Clare he was blinded by her beautiful dress.

I was blinded by her ta-tas.  Were they always that big?  They seemed right huge to me. 

[EllenB]

How old was Brad? I thought he was one of the older ones, at least by his second attempt.  Too bad he didn't come back to compete on this season. He and Clare would be gorgeous together.

[SerenityNow721]

2 hours ago, Kiss my mutt said:

 

I hope the straight jacket guy was not the mental health addictions specialist because that would just be so wrong. It’s already in poor taste to me anyway. I missed his intro so I have no idea why he went with that gimmick. 

 

I think it had something to do with having to wait so long to meet her due to COVID drove him “crazy”.  Must have been comfy cause he kept it on the whole time. 

[mommalib]

5 hours ago, Riplet68 said:

I don’t see the connection with...Dale?  First impression guy. I love the rule breaker, so that sings guy. 

She was crazy over Dale as soon as he stepped out that limo, I've never seen anybody fall in love that fast lol.

Edited October 14, 2020 by mommalib

[JenE4]

8 hours ago, saber5055 said:

That's Kenny and he's still there. To his credit, he's 39, a plus in my book.

I kept a list as they got out of the limo so I would know who is still there and how old everyone is. I missed a couple of guys but figure I'll catch up with them next episode or two.

The previews are AWESOME! I hope this lasts for many eps before I have to bail because ... well, you know.

 

8 hours ago, saber5055 said:

23 after tonight's RC. I kept track!

I think some other guy beat him to it so he had to do the strait jacket. They were almost out of props by then.

 

7 hours ago, saber5055 said:

Color me extremely disappointed about those little kid ages. There were 11 in their 20s, seven that were 30/31. A 38 and a 40 got sent home. Blake the professional manscaper is the oldest at 41. Boy Band Kenny is 39.

I wanted to try it this time, keeping track of names/ages/occupations, who stays, who goes. Because I usually don't know who anyone is until hometowns, and even then I don't always know who is what person. I like Clare and was invested in her season. I'll be keeping my list for a few more weeks anyway.

Way to go, Saber! I love that you’re at the ready with all of the statistics. You’re our recording secretary.

[nlkm9]

I liked Eazy but thought Christian riley was soo handsome . I think he got a rose .

[nickp1991]

“You’ve just completely blown up The Bachelorette” is such a 2020 aesthetic

[bosawks]

10 hours ago, Callaphera said:

Wouldn't a hermetically sealed human sized hamster ball be more effective? 

If they had a season of loopy Luke P in one I.Am.There.

I would watch the shit out of that show.

[phlebas]

So.... still doing the high-water pants and no socks, I see. Great. I guess modern ladies are super into ankles and blisters?

I'm going to stop wearing socks until I meet a woman who likes my weird leg tan lines and how my feet smell like a burning locker room. Wicking is something old people do.

[LakeGal]

Clare was on Jimmy Kimmel last night.  Jimmy was trying to get her to admit what happens.  She was doing her best to avoid things.  She did admit she had the list of guys and looked them all up on Google before she met them.

[SassyCat]

Oh that short legged pants without socks look is just awful! Especially if they are short enough to practically ride up on your shins, like they did on that extremely tall guy who called himself "a tall drink of water" when meeting Clare.

I have sat with my notebook and pen in the past and took note of everyone. Their name, age, occupation, and area of living, like saber, lol. I didn't this time, but am glad we have a secretary on top of these things. I used to give one through five stars also, according to my own thoughts on attractiveness and who I thought was a good catch.

Maybe saber can refresh my memory the name of the tattle tailing attorney who's name starts with a T. If any of the contestants ever watched these bachelor shows they should know that being a tattler, and "outing" another contestant for their "wrong reasons" for being there, to the prize person they are all vying for, they should know it NEVER works in their favor. 

I liked Blake and his howling hound dog. I do wish Clare would give these guys a chance to show their inner selves, instead of deciding from one look who she felt the most attracted to upon first glance. Dale has kind of a presence to himself for sure, and I get the instant attraction, but it doesn't mean he's perfect husband material for her. It means she finds him hot.

Not the best determination for a life mate. There's plenty of hot looking guys who have a strong presence vibe to them, out there. Alot of them are in love with themselves. I think she is being immature with her sudden choice of he's the one without really getting to know each of them. Sexual chemistry is one thing, but the rest of life is much more than that.

[peachmangosteen]

11 hours ago, anniebird said:

Is the bar set so low that "showing up" makes you a hero? She must have said that 10 times.

If you took a drink every time she said that or 'I love it/that!' you would have been in the hospital about 10 minutes in.

11 hours ago, saber5055 said:

23 after tonight's RC. I kept track!

I'm confused lol. I thought I heard Chris say she met 31 guys and then I believe she sent 4 home, so how are there now 23 left?

1 hour ago, phlebas said:

So.... still doing the high-water pants and no socks, I see. Great. I guess modern ladies are super into ankles and blisters?

I hate it. I don't get why that is so trendy.

I was pumped to see someone from Morgantown, WV but he turned out to suck. Too bad.

Oh also, Dale's ears are way too small and his voice is really bad. 

[DEL901]

11 hours ago, scenicbyway said:

Also thinking about the time they had to take off from work during a pandemic when jobs are on the line anyway. It would be annoying to be sent home night one.

I’m not convinced Clare wants to find love.  Dale said “like” every third word in their convo.  He could’ve just been nervous but I couldn’t see what she saw as a 40 year old woman.

I was disappointed in the ages of the guys no 27 or 30 year old is going to be that interested in her for that long.  If she wants kids it needs to happen yesterday. Unfair but true.

Apparently everyone thought either Madison or Hannah Ann(both then 23) would be cast, so they picked young guys.   The Covid break gave them the opportunity to add a few older guys, but they didn’t have the time (or willing bachelors?) to get more older guys.  

[leighdear]

9 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

Why do so many fathers and mothers think the title of parent must mean they're good, kind, responsible, and mature? There are way too many parents (including fathers of daughters) who are still players, irresponsible, not good people, even if they are good to their children. 

"Amanda Stanton, calling Amanda Stanton!.....Your Ultimate Famewhore Mama plaque is ready!"   😛

These dudes just need to wear damn Capri pants and OWN it!  

And there will never be a stunt entrance to top Cupcake.  He's the reigning champ, as far as I'm concerned. 

 

Edited October 14, 2020 by leighdear

[truthaboutluv]

Quote

How can they have the rose ceremony if she didn’t talk to everyone yet?

The lead never talks to everyone despite how long the night lasts. That's why there's always some panic and freakout when Chris Harrison announces the rose ceremony is about to start and some start boo-hooing about having no time with the lead. Original Tyler C never spoke to Hannah on Night 1. 

I had the episode playing in the background for most of the two hours and so I missed most of the specifics. But I call bullshit on the "love at first sight" crap with Clare and Dale and instead I feel positive that they maybe DMed each other or something and began talking online, before filming started.  

Edited October 15, 2020 by truthaboutluv

[Alexander Pope]

13 hours ago, EllenB said:

I'm REALLY impressed with the way she's handling the guys. For someone who seems like an over-emotional dingbat so often, she's actually got some sense and very good manners.

I completely agree.  I do wish she would cut her crying by about half, but she's been through a lot so I won't roll my eyes too much.

13 hours ago, Riplet68 said:

No... I don’t see Dale being as in to her. Her, definitely see it.

man’ it’s daylight!  They look wiped

When she kissed him there was this incredible moment where her hands were sort of hovering in the air after they hugged, as if she wasn't sure what to do and wanted him to lean in, and then she grabbed him and went for it.  I was riveted! it spoke volumes!

[Alexander Pope]

10 hours ago, rebel2u said:

Yes, I think it was Byron Velvick who was the oldest bachelor.  (Had to look that up.)

One of the guys told Clare he was blinded by her beautiful dress.

I was blinded by her ta-tas.  Were they always that big?  They seemed right huge to me. 

I think the dress accentuated them--sculpted them like armor.

I also wanted to add that "showing up" is something they say a lot in yoga.  They showed her in a warrior pose at the beginning.  

 

[Ms Blue Jay]

12 hours ago, rebel2u said:

 Wasn't Nick Viall 39 when he was The Bachelor?  I don't recall anyone making a big deal out of his age, no catcalling about him being one of the oldest bachelors.

Very good point.  Nick and Arie were certainly over 35 when Bachelor --- Nick is 40 and Arie is 39 now.

3 hours ago, phlebas said:

So.... still doing the high-water pants and no socks, I see. Great. I guess modern ladies are super into ankles and blisters?

I'm going to stop wearing socks until I meet a woman who likes my weird leg tan lines and how my feet smell like a burning locker room. Wicking is something old people do.

I THINK these men wear ankle socks.  Very very very tiny ankle socks that you can't see.

There was a Twitter poll where the majority of people said that shoes without socks is disgusting, and I personally know people (both men and women) who wear those little things in their shoes so nobody sees socks because GASP socks are so UNATTRACTIVE.  I've tried to wear them but they won't stay on my feet so I gave up.

[OnTime]

11 hours ago, ECM1231 said:

Clare is so pretty and has a great figure but I don't know that many 39 year old women who would be that interested in men in their 20s or even early 30s

Is it just me or do her teeth look like veneers?

[DEL901]

I always find it amusing/perplexing when Somme’s profession is “former something or other”.    It this because that was the most interesting job they ever had?  Are they retired?  Unemployed?

Dale was listed as a former football player.  If he had played longer, retired would be possible, but an injury cut his career short after 3 seasons, so unlikely he accumulated enough money to retire.  I’m guessing aspiring model, actor or influencer.