2020 Auditions, Finals, and Training Camp

[aeroluv327]

1 hour ago, cherryblossom said:

I’ve always thought that Kelli told the producers who to interview about “possibility of the veterans getting cut at finals”. Actually the only one who did an interview who was not cute was Cassie who seemed at a loss for words & finally came up it would SUCK if she couldn’t be a cheerleader!  If they interview someone who ends up not being cut, then that is never shown.

I'm pretty sure that they just interview everyone or most of them.  Though if there's an obvious reason to make sure to get a veteran interview, I'm sure a producer makes sure to talk to them.  (Ex: Alyssa Torres flubbing her interview or Cassie being at risk due to her knee surgery.)

1 hour ago, ByTor said:

 

Is there a reason you have her so low on the list (as I know you're a big fan)?  My opinion on her has totally changed, I'd have her as 1, assuming she stays.

 

Haha, go back and read the list again, Amanda is on there several times!

[Jess14]

7 hours ago, dreamcatcher said:

I think the point was that they kept all of woc this year particularly because of what had been happening all over the country. I’m not saying these women didn’t earn their spots, but I’m sure there were just as many woc in the previous year who were killing it and were cut either before tc or during tc because there were only 2-3 positions available for woc. Unless they keep it up for a few more years, I’m not gonna act like suddenly this org is woke or whatever.

I understand this point. However, the original post said that Tory probably would’ve made it if not for it being the year of the woc, which seems to suggest deserving Tory didn’t make it because of the minority women. It’s just frustrating that even when there seems to be agreement that the woc are deserving and (in this case) some of the standouts, they are still getting blamed for another girl not making. This is the case, even though they’re not even close to being the majority of the team. 

Kat is the only one of the woc who isn’t a strong dancer, but she’s gorgeous. If she was a plain jane, I don’t think she would made it to training camp or the team her first season -black or not. And Brianna, but she’s no more of a blender than lots other vets.

26 minutes ago, parrotfeathers said:

Gosh thank you so much for that clarification.  I had only had one cup of coffee when I read the comment.  I thought she was saying she was drop dead gorgeous !

Lol! I thought the same at first and had to read it again to understand.

Edited December 11, 2020 by Jess14
Forgot Brianna

[ByTor]

54 minutes ago, parrotfeathers said:

So glad  you are back in the trenches.

awww thanks!!  Even though I'm still mad, I couldn't stay away 🙂 

[dreamcatcher]

5 hours ago, LilyDutch said:

That’s an interesting question... uhm I don’t know... I did wonder whether Kash retired after 4 years because she had been point for 2 years. Has anyone ever done 3?

as for politely demoted: I kinda feel it happened to Maddie going from point 2 to point 1, which is a lot shorter and less spectacular (my opinion)dance-wise. 

I don’t think they’ve used someone with less than 3 years before, which would practically mean someone fresh out of their rookie year would be leading the team next season. So I don’t think they will ever have that issue as especially lately, point girl gets everything else as well: GL, PBC, VOTY, maybe even calendar. So kashara got pbc in her third year and still came back for a 4th for example, why would she come back other than getting the 5 year ring and status? Maybe if she didn’t struggle with weight she would’ve come back.

Also, I don’t consider what happened to Maddie a demotion, Amy got the same part last season and still was the one that was highlighted as an official point. 

4 hours ago, Pau84 said:

Insane to have 2 point girls whom have never been and never will be point girl material. Incredible bad decision making, blending and/or ignoring  objectives and validating irrational motives.

These are the potential point girls (a lot of rookies!) 

1. Alora-Rose Morgan
2. Armani Latimer
3. Claire Wolford
4. Dani McGinnis
5. Darian Lassiter
6. Elli DiGiovanni
7. Jada McLean
8. Jessica Bowman
9. McKenzie Sherman
10. Alanna Tarango
11. Amanda Dilks
12. Ashlee Yesbanks
13. Caroline Sundvold
14. Chandi Dayle
15. Cici Levi
16. Erin Sauerhage
17. Amanda Dilks
18. Jalyn Stough
19. Kat Puryear*
20. Kelcey Wetterburg
21. Kristin Dodd
22. Lexie Smith
23. Rachel Alexander
24. Amanda Dilks
25. Rachel Wyatt
26. Savannah Heineken*

* are a teensy-weensy of a dance risk, however we shouldn't overestimate the dance aspect

Ok Alora is shown as struggling and Savanah has been struggling since day1. How would either end up in the triangle, let alone point? other than that, I agree they have more choices now than in the last two seasons. But Jalyn is in the doghouse, Rachel A wasn’t selected for a GL position so no way she would suddenly get point, Lexie wasn’t promoted to point this season so she ain’t getting it, Kristin isn’t that good and Cici was cut from SG so no way kelli is considering her for point.

And well, while I’ve loved these discussions in the past, considering that we all know the next blonde at point will be “the bull in china, beautiful tornado or most commonly known as ms horsemouth”, seeing a list of all deserving girls who will never get their chance is making this even harder to swallow. 

 

46 minutes ago, parrotfeathers said:

Gosh thank you so much for that clarification.  I had only had one cup of coffee when I read the comment.  I thought she was saying she was drop dead gorgeous !

So glad  you are back in the trenches.

Yeah exactly and thanks @ByTor for explaining what I meant! I tried to say that Kashara wasn’t the most technical and Jen wasn’t the most beautiful point but it came out so wrong😂

[DCCFan2021]

5 hours ago, Manc.UK.DCCfan said:

You can see it here though, Tess is flat footed and basically kicking her shoulder (she needs a better pointed toe) next one is on Relevé and is at the same kick height as Tess, the girl after is also flat footed but got great height in her kicks.

I’m certain someone on here said it was due to where they’ve previously danced and the training they’d had. 

If someone has the training and flexibility, then a flat-footed kick can be beautiful and won't stretch their muscles too much. I just know that most girls (myself included) don't have that flexibility and naturally roll up on their toes in an attempt to get the kick higher. For someone like Victoria, who isn't uber flexible, I don't understand why she's staying flat footed when her kicks would be much better on releve. Tess, on the other hand, has always been a fabulous kicker and I don't think going on releve would actually get her kicks any higher.

[vanillagum]

3 hours ago, Jess14 said:

I understand this point. However, the original post said that Tory probably would’ve made it if not for it being the year of the woc, which seems to suggest deserving Tory didn’t make it because of the minority women. It’s just frustrating that even when there seems to be agreement that the woc are deserving and (in this case) some of the standouts, they are still getting blamed for another girl not making. This is the case, even though they’re not even close to being the majority of the team. 

Kat is the only one of the woc who isn’t a strong dancer, but she’s gorgeous. If she was a plain jane, I don’t think she would made it to training camp or the team her first season -black or not. And Brianna, but she’s no more of a blender than lots other vets.

mte. the woc are kicking ass; i don't want to hear even a little bit about how the millionth cookie cutter basic white blonde would've made it if it weren't for them meddling kids. 

permanently side eyeing the fact that the most ~diverse~ squad ever is also the most hidden because of the pandemic, the masks, the fact that they still haven't been allowed to broadcast their making the squad despite the fact the season is gonna be over in five minutes. figures!

i am monumentally shook that there are that many black girls this year, that they chose armani "despite" her natural hair, and that they let sydney in with her bod (pro bowl and nfl experience aside). also for the billionth time i have to disclaim sydney's bod is killer, just not at all 'acceptable' for dcc in the past

 

3 hours ago, dreamcatcher said:

Ok Alora is shown as struggling and Savanah has been struggling since day1. How would either end up in the triangle, let alone point?

LOL right? meredith for point 2k21

i'm giggling at the potential point list being almost the whole damn squad. not sure that's how it works 

[heckkitty]

On 12/9/2020 at 11:03 AM, DCC-UK said:

There is no way that they can claim they cut Hannah for not having DCC style. Her IG story says otherwise. Sorry, not the best screenshot! 

Yeah I'm not watching this year because #stillnotoverit.

[edie3]

15 hours ago, scorpio1031 said:

Why is she doing a different pose than the others?

Only Victoria!

[kalibean]

4 hours ago, Jess14 said:

I understand this point. However, the original post said that Tory probably would’ve made it if not for it being the year of the woc, which seems to suggest deserving Tory didn’t make it because of the minority women. It’s just frustrating that even when there seems to be agreement that the woc are deserving and (in this case) some of the standouts, they are still getting blamed for another girl not making. This is the case, even though they’re not even close to being the majority of the team. 

Kat is the only one of the woc who isn’t a strong dancer, but she’s gorgeous. If she was a plain jane, I don’t think she would made it to training camp or the team her first season -black or not. And Brianna, but she’s no more of a blender than lots other vets.

Lol! I thought the same at first and had to read it again to understand.

I adore Brianna and always have, but I think she benefitted from the much needed mature, non-controversial DCC after all the dramas from seasons prior.  She's mature, grounded, etc.  She's for sure a blender IMO, but the type of blender every team needs.  Lovely, gracious, etc.  Did she get a calendar page?  I thought it was interesting that Brennan was the December calendar girl for two of the DCC calendars this year for all the bluster she gets about her pics.  

[Lona]

9 hours ago, Pau84 said:

Kat Puryear*

Savannah Heineken*

* are a teensy-weensy of a dance risk, however we shouldn't overestimate the dance aspect

I mean on her good days Kat is a good dancer, and she's a very attractive woman. I just wouldn't feel comfortable with her being point or even a leadership position. I don't want a scandal-ridden point. I mean maybe it was all just rumors, but if not I'd be shocked if she even comes back next year.

And as for Savannah? Kind girl. Never will be point. That's not a knock on her. I just feel that there are some DCC every year who are meant to be the "oh, yeah! She's a sweet girl" type and nothing more. Savannah fits that bill pretty well IMO.

7 hours ago, ByTor said:

I have an idea. I think that I, along with any of the other Brennan Backers (hey, it's only fair if Marissa can have her "Marauders")

Haha, love this! And yeah if Marissa gets a fan club, than perhaps Brennan should get her own chat board! 😂

[dccfan204]

Is it Tori or Kelly who keeps getting positive feedback? I can't remember

[sATL]

29 minutes ago, kalibean said:

I adore Brianna and always have, but I think she benefitted from the much needed mature, non-controversial DCC after all the dramas from seasons prior.  She's mature, grounded, etc.  She's for sure a blender IMO, but the type of blender every team needs.  Lovely, gracious, etc.  Did she get a calendar page?  I thought it was interesting that Brennan was the December calendar girl for two of the DCC calendars this year for all the bluster she gets about her pics.  

Calendar? for 2021 - meaning it was shot this year? How were they able to go somewhere tropical? Or did  they just do a back drop to and shot in it a studio in Dallas

[scorpio1031]

12 minutes ago, sATL said:

Calendar? for 2021 - meaning it was shot this year? How were they able to go somewhere tropical? Or did  they just do a back drop to and shot in it a studio in Dallas

They used different photos from last years calendar shoot

[Holly85]

26 minutes ago, dccfan204 said:

Is it Tori or Kelly who keeps getting positive feedback? I can't remember

Kelly a little bit they aren’t saying anything to tori 

[Tinydancerxo28]

On 12/10/2020 at 12:11 PM, 5678Pixie said:

Tori is teaching Jennifer Amburn's class this Thursday.  I predict she will make the team next year.  She probably would have made the team this year if it wouldn't have been the year of the WOC.  Jen has a big influence on Kelli.  Lisa kissed Jen's butt before making the team.  Went to all of her classes and took privates from her.  Also ratted out Ashley and Julia to Jen knowing the infor would get back to Kelli.  Lisa is not dumb and she is all about herself.  That is how she gets places because we all know it it not her looks or her wardrobe.  

Ooh everyone is entitled to their opinion but as a WOC, this comes off as that the WOC on the team stole a white woman’s spot. From what I’ve seen of the WOC TCCs this year, they are extremely talented and worthy of wearing the boots. I’ve seen comments before that someone like Yuko shouldn’t have made the team but Let’s not forget that the TBTP have taken tons of mediocre white girls (Breelan, Ashley P, Jordan C, Morgan, Kaitlyn, etc...)

[kalibean]

41 minutes ago, sATL said:

Calendar? for 2021 - meaning it was shot this year? How were they able to go somewhere tropical? Or did  they just do a back drop to and shot in it a studio in Dallas

Ohhhhh I was meaning did Brianna get a calendar page in any of the 2020 calendars. But 2021 would work too since they’re recycling. 

here’s the Brennan post with her two:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CIoTRDZhnuy/?igshid=pw3vmdiqsni

[5678Pixie]

32 minutes ago, Holly85 said:

Kelly a little bit they aren’t saying anything to tori 

Charm gave Tori positive feed back.  

[scorpio1031]

19 minutes ago, kalibean said:

Ohhhhh I was meaning did Brianna get a calendar page in any of the 2020 calendars. But 2021 would work too since they’re recycling. 

here’s the Brennan post with her two:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CIoTRDZhnuy/?igshid=pw3vmdiqsni

This one for 2021 plus one in the smaller swimsuit calendar 

[Opine]

3 hours ago, vanillagum said:

they chose armani "despite" her natural hair

Is Armani's hair natural in these first few episodes? What about Darian and Jada?  Is that not natural hair?  Looking at their TCC picture from the grid we all had they all three had some straightened long version but now I thought they were all natural?

Also, I thought I saw someone upthread classify Elli as a WOC?  

 

[BunnyHop96]

I know there's been mention of how a lot of the time that "classic" DCC styling seriously ages some if not most of the girls, and I was bored and browsing some of the girls Instas, and just, I can't even believe I'm doing this b/c I'm NOT a VK fan at ALL, BUT, look how much PRETTIER she is in this video! https://www.instagram.com/p/CCzkuOiJQWt/

The lack of heavy eye makeup and no ghastly pink lip makes her look like the gorgeous young woman she could be. She actually looks her age instead of a young girl trying to play dress up. I'd much rather see this natural look from her while in uniform than what she currently does, it's so much more flattering to her. Cut down on the teasing/extensions, add a little leave in conditioner (lol) and ladies and gents we might have a winner.

Also, Amanda's hair being straight in her most recent Insta post almost made me think it was a different person. Really glad she curls it the way she does for performance b/c it does make her stand out so much more than just being another "southern belle" cookie cutter blonde with either straight hair or those big curling iron/hot roller waves

[BunnyHop96]

3 hours ago, DCCFan2021 said:

If someone has the training and flexibility, then a flat-footed kick can be beautiful and won't stretch their muscles too much. I just know that most girls (myself included) don't have that flexibility and naturally roll up on their toes in an attempt to get the kick higher. For someone like Victoria, who isn't uber flexible, I don't understand why she's staying flat footed when her kicks would be much better on releve. Tess, on the other hand, has always been a fabulous kicker and I don't think going on releve would actually get her kicks any higher.

"World class organization" and yet they can't get any coherence in their choreography... Is it on relevée or flat footed, Judy! I need to know!

[Manc.UK.DCCfan]

17 minutes ago, Opine said:

Is Armani's hair natural in these first few episodes? What about Darian and Jada?  Is that not natural hair?  Looking at their TCC picture from the grid we all had they all three had some straightened long version but now I thought they were all natural?

Also, I thought I saw someone upthread classify Elli as a WOC?  

 

Darian, Jada and Armani have had their natural hair so far in all 3 episodes, so has Chandi in the latest with her natural curls. Sydney’s is straightened like in her video 

[sATL]

6 hours ago, Opine said:

Is Armani's hair natural in these first few episodes? What about Darian and Jada?  Is that not natural hair?  Looking at their TCC picture from the grid we all had they all three had some straightened long version but now I thought they were all natural?

Also, I thought I saw someone upthread classify Elli as a WOC?  

 

 

5 hours ago, Manc.UK.DCCfan said:

Darian, Jada and Armani have had their natural hair so far in all 3 episodes, so has Chandi in the latest with her natural curls. Sydney’s is straightened like in her video 

what page in this thread is Armani's squad photo on? I have page 113 committed to memory , but that is not her squad photo, which, I guess,  would be the look K&J preferred her to have after makeovers.

Natural hair can also be straighten via a flat iron.

However with the dancing and the humidity - either straight or curly - might fizz though, depending up the texture she has. After 4 years of dancing at SC football games, she must have found a way/product to keep it looking great for the games.

Edited December 12, 2020 by sATL

[UnicornKicksBack]

1 hour ago, Manc.UK.DCCfan said:

Darian, Jada and Armani have had their natural hair so far in all 3 episodes, so has Chandi in the latest with her natural curls. Sydney’s is straightened like in her video 

All 3 have natural hair but 3 diff textures. Armani’s curl is tighter and denser and not going to do the same thing as Jada no matter what. Armani might be my fave this time. She’s just a fun firecracker. 

My HS team kicked flat. I think it depends on style and routine but I agree all need to be uniform. 
Lisa and those jeans. Well I think they would’ve looked cuter on somebody taller or slimmer. They look like they don’t fit her like she’s going to trip all over them. Not a cute look. Brennan was about as in trend this summer as possible with her casual chic. Kelli just dislikes her and likes messing with her fans. 

 

[DCCFan2021]

1 hour ago, BunnyHop96 said:

"World class organization" and yet they can't get any coherence in their choreography... Is it on relevée or flat footed, Judy! I need to know!

Fair point. I was more talking about if they were to do one in a solo or something, but if it's choreographed for the entire team it needs to be consistent throughout!

[scorpio1031]

2 hours ago, BunnyHop96 said:

I'm NOT a VK fan at ALL, BUT, look how much PRETTIER she is in this video! 

I just wonder at what age they started to DCC Barbie-fy her.  

2 hours ago, BunnyHop96 said:

"World class organization" and yet they can't get any coherence in their choreography... Is it on relevée or flat footed, Judy! I need to know!

There doesn't seem to be someone watching those "detail issues" as Sarah G would say

Edited December 12, 2020 by scorpio1031

[njcate]

On 12/9/2020 at 1:00 PM, Opine said:

I think Kelli has spent a lot of time in boats and other outdoor endeavors.  Her neck and chest (and hands) are much older looking than her face and hair.

Fillers/Botox in her face.  

[TheGenuineBeauty]

15 hours ago, Pau84 said:

Insane to have 2 point girls whom have never been and never will be point girl material. Incredible bad decision making, blending and/or ignoring  objectives and validating irrational motives.

These are the potential point girls (a lot of rookies!) 

1. Alora-Rose Morgan
2. Armani Latimer
3. Claire Wolford
4. Dani McGinnis
5. Darian Lassiter
6. Elli DiGiovanni
7. Jada McLean
8. Jessica Bowman
9. McKenzie Sherman
10. Alanna Tarango
11. Amanda Dilks
12. Ashlee Yesbanks
13. Caroline Sundvold
14. Chandi Dayle
15. Cici Levi
16. Erin Sauerhage
17. Amanda Dilks
18. Jalyn Stough
19. Kat Puryear*
20. Kelcey Wetterburg
21. Kristin Dodd
22. Lexie Smith
23. Rachel Alexander
24. Amanda Dilks
25. Rachel Wyatt
26. Savannah Heineken*

* are a teensy-weensy of a dance risk, however we shouldn't overestimate the dance aspect

Good comprehensive list, but you forgot Amanda Dilks lol.

[ClassicPegg]

On 12/10/2020 at 11:08 AM, NC-CFD09 said:

I agree with a lot of what you said. I definitely don't think she would be as featured or given as many things (SG) as she has now if Kelli and Tina weren't friends. I feel like it is possible that other TC's have done stupid and immature stuff that didn't make it to TV.. but since Victoria was so heavily featured all of her blunders were caught by CMT. Nobody can deny though that her first year in TC was a dang mess so I also see where it is highly possible she wouldn't have been given a second chance.

There is no denying she's a talented dancer though.. Travis Wall said she was his favorite both years and I highly doubt he gives a crap what Kelli thinks. He is a straight up legend in the Dance industry. Talented dancers don't always get handed things like SG though (poor Jalyn), so it's possible she'd be a blender. I wouldn't say she's my all time favorite or anything.. but If I got to be Kelli and pick the team she'd make it.

Travis has known VK for a while...

[Blue hues]

2 minutes ago, ClassicPegg said:

Travis has known VK for a while...

Now that’s a nice smile from VK!

[UnicornKicksBack]

1 hour ago, njcate said:

Fillers/Botox in her face.  

Skin is thinner on hands and neck and can’t really be sandblasted and spackled like a face too

[Jennv]

13 hours ago, cherryblossom said:

I’ve always thought that Kelli told the producers who to interview about “possibility of the veterans getting cut at finals”. Actually the only one who did an interview who was not cute was Cassie who seemed at a loss for words & finally came up it would SUCK if she couldn’t be a cheerleader!  If they interview someone who ends up not being cut, then that is never shown.

I always assumed they interviewed a bunch of people and then when they edited they used the interviews of the cut girls, because by the time they are editing finals are over and they know who was cut.

[CrazyMoon]

1 hour ago, UnicornKicksBack said:

Skin is thinner on hands and neck and can’t really be sandblasted and spackled like a face too

True. However, a little old fashioned Retin-A cream will do wonders on the neck/chest/décolletage. 100% shea butter used as a hand cream will seriously improve them.

 

[hannahbanana]

9 hours ago, vanillagum said:

mte. the woc are kicking ass; i don't want to hear even a little bit about how the millionth cookie cutter basic white blonde would've made it if it weren't for them meddling kids. 

 

6 hours ago, Tinydancerxo28 said:

Ooh everyone is entitled to their opinion but as a WOC, this comes off as that the WOC on the team stole a white woman’s spot. From what I’ve seen of the WOC TCCs this year, they are extremely talented and worthy of wearing the boots. I’ve seen comments before that someone like Yuko shouldn’t have made the team but Let’s not forget that the TBTP have taken tons of mediocre white girls (Breelan, Ashley P, Jordan C, Morgan, Kaitlyn, etc...)

I don't think anyone is trying to say any WOC stole a white woman's spot or didn't earn/don't deserve their spots (with maybe the possible exception of Kat and/or Sydney not deserving their spots because of their rumoured extracurricular activities IF those rumours are true -- NOT because they are WOC); but that given what Kelli has done in the past, it's very likely many of these WOC wouldn't have made it into training camp, much less on to the team because that's what has happened in the past. It has nothing to do with the women themselves or their abilities, but Kelli's preferences.

[scorpio1031]

Pretty kicks

[Jazzhands]

6 hours ago, DCCFan2021 said:

Fair point. I was more talking about if they were to do one in a solo or something, but if it's choreographed for the entire team it needs to be consistent throughout!

I’m tall with really long legs, and when I was on drill team in high school and college, I was always instructed to kick flat while the other girls were on releve because it made the kick heights more uniform.   I’ve noticed Tess’s flat-footed kicks in the past and wondered if she might’ve been instructed similarly. 

[dreamcatcher]

 

13 hours ago, heckkitty said:

Yeah I'm not watching this year because #stillnotoverit.

I’m with you on that one. And everytime I think about it I get even more upset -how is that even a good excuse for cutting Hannah? It’s like kelli would rather admit that she’s such an idiot she put twice Hanna on SG, as a rookie too, even though she’s a weak dancer....than accepting that people are allowed to have opinions? Especially when said opinions are objectively correct?

10 hours ago, scorpio1031 said:

This one for 2021 plus one in the smaller swimsuit calendar 

Ok Brianna is stunning but but but... That suit is awful and well it looks inappropriate to me, especially when her boobs are ready to make a surprise appearance. When I think how Kelli treated Heather for being victimized when she’s more than happy to treat the girls like playboy bunnies if that generates more income for her I get sooo mad. No one is expecting these girls to be saints, so quit the act ma’am.

10 hours ago, BunnyHop96 said:

I know there's been mention of how a lot of the time that "classic" DCC styling seriously ages some if not most of the girls, and I was bored and browsing some of the girls Instas, and just, I can't even believe I'm doing this b/c I'm NOT a VK fan at ALL, BUT, look how much PRETTIER she is in this video! https://www.instagram.com/p/CCzkuOiJQWt/

The lack of heavy eye makeup and no ghastly pink lip makes her look like the gorgeous young woman she could be. She actually looks her age instead of a young girl trying to play dress up. I'd much rather see this natural look from her while in uniform than what she currently does, it's so much more flattering to her. Cut down on the teasing/extensions, add a little leave in conditioner (lol) and ladies and gents we might have a winner.

Also, Amanda's hair being straight in her most recent Insta post almost made me think it was a different person. Really glad she curls it the way she does for performance b/c it does make her stand out so much more than just being another "southern belle" cookie cutter blonde with either straight hair or those big curling iron/hot roller waves

So uhm I know it’s not the point of the video but I just can’t with her mouth. Especially in this video it looks like she’s breathing through her mouth and that’s seriously not healthy. 

And also it’s painful to watch her try ballroom with these jarring arm movements but I’ve already commented on that video when she first posted it, I need to calm down already lol😂

8 hours ago, scorpio1031 said:

I just wonder at what age they started to DCC Barbie-fy her.  

There doesn't seem to be someone watching those "detail issues" as Sarah G would say

Birth?

6 hours ago, ClassicPegg said:

Travis has known VK for a while...

Yep I had posted 2-3 pictures from her insta at some point ( I ain’t going through all her posts again to find them) and it appears VK had paid good money to take classes from him. No wonder she would get some praise from him. Still, we all know it was Amanda he was complimenting last season, they can give the “vk is god’s gift to dance” a rest.

2 hours ago, Jazzhands said:

I’m tall with really long legs, and when I was on drill team in high school and college, I was always instructed to kick flat while the other girls were on releve because it made the kick heights more uniform.   I’ve noticed Tess’s flat-footed kicks in the past and wondered if she might’ve been instructed similarly. 

Yes for Tess it makes sense. She is the tallest on the team and she can absolutely kick high and well even flat-footed. And yes I know VK is the same height, but she can’t kick like that so a. She doesn’t look uniform anyway b. She’s risking a major injury

[ByTor]

5 hours ago, dreamcatcher said:

Ok Brianna is stunning but but but... That suit is awful and well it looks inappropriate to me, especially when her boobs are ready to make a surprise appearance.

At least she's not doing that "pulling the bikini bottom down" thing, I'll give them that! 🤣

[Pau84]

22 hours ago, dreamcatcher said:

Ok Alora is shown as struggling and Savanah has been struggling since day1. How would either end up in the triangle, let alone point? other than that, I agree they have more choices now than in the last two seasons. But Jalyn is in the doghouse, Rachel A wasn’t selected for a GL position so no way she would suddenly get point, Lexie wasn’t promoted to point this season so she ain’t getting it, Kristin isn’t that good and Cici was cut from SG so no way kelli is considering her for point.

And well, while I’ve loved these discussions in the past, considering that we all know the next blonde at point will be “the bull in china, beautiful tornado or most commonly known as ms horsemouth”, seeing a list of all deserving girls who will never get their chance is making this even harder to swallow. 

I agree. VK is coming.

In my humble opinion the point girl MUST be photogenic, so my first list is a reflection of this. What my list also illustrated (I hope) is that the rookies generated a big influx of glamour girls.

If we account for East Texas bad decision making, the real list is a list of potentials, girls that are still in the running towards becoming a point girl.

Caroline Sundvold was almost getting there, but Rachel Wyatt's ascension to point diminished her chances considerable, unless, Rachel Wyatt indicated she would be leaving the team next year. Then Caroline is still a big candidate for next year.

If we include VK in this discussion, we must take into consideration that her impending inherited point position could only be outlived by Armani, Claire, Dani, Elli, Jessica or McKenzie.

VK's point position would bring an end to my big dream: Amanda as point. ROTY Kelcey would also be leaving the team without fulfilling her potential if VK does what she is being set up for. I am almost tempted into shifting all of my hopes and dreams towards Dani McGinnis from Puyallup, WA., who is really fabulous.

1. Armani Latimer*
2. Claire Wolford*
3. Dani McGinnis*
4. Darian Lassiter*
5. Elli DiGiovanni*
6. Jessica Bowman*
7. McKenzie Sherman*
8. Caroline Sundvold
9. Chandi Dayle
10. Kat Puryear
11. Kelcey Wetterburg
12. Amanda Dilks

* potential VK survivors

[DCCFan197605]

23 hours ago, dreamcatcher said:

I don’t think they’ve used someone with less than 3 years before, which would practically mean someone fresh out of their rookie year would be leading the team next season. So I don’t think they will ever have that issue as especially lately, point girl gets everything else as well: GL, PBC, VOTY, maybe even calendar. So kashara got pbc in her third year and still came back for a 4th for example, why would she come back other than getting the 5 year ring and status? Maybe if she didn’t struggle with weight she would’ve come back.

Also, I don’t consider what happened to Maddie a demotion, Amy got the same part last season and still was the one that was highlighted as an official point. 

Good analysis here.   I just wonder how anyone beats Sydney Durso’s 7-year modern era record, especially if you’re point at year 3 or 4.  Lacey would have clearly been able to spend ten years on the squad if she had wanted.  She would’ve been the logical point at year 6.  Maybe she could’ve kept it a couple years (6, 7). What happens in year 8?

Put another way, what guidance do K & J give?   We know they blindside the ladies with Show Group selection and demotion (Jalyn).  From the commentary here, it seems like during year-end evaluations K&J indicate what a veteran’s next year prospects look like.  I guess this issue hasn’t come up.  Most ladies check all of the boxes (SG, GL, PBC, VOTY, 5-year ring, Point) and go on their way.  
 

The Amy/Maddie years were just an indication of how limited the 3 year plus pool was.   And to your point, triangle section 1 is tiny .  It makes little sense to put a lady up there for a few seconds and act like she’s point.  So, what happens to Maddie next year?  The year after?  Especially, being a fan favorite.  I have to assume it would be time to move Maddie back.

Edited December 12, 2020 by DCCFan197605
Typo correction

[Pau84]

22 minutes ago, DCCOracle said:

Your dream might still become a reality if she sticks around. We all know the squad photo doesn't mean jack, but I've been doing some research into the triangle/leadership and the ladies who get a bump in the triangle - between their rookie and 2nd year - that's more than 1 or 2 rows - seem to be the future leaders.

If this years triangle analysis is correct, Amanda is almost guaranteed a leadership position since she jumped 4 rows. Chandi jumped 2 rows and I'm hoping she'll be a leader as well. Every other 2019 rookie jumped only 1 row... except for 1 person. who didn't jump any rows at all. Guess who that is. 🙂

It's not an exact science and I've only done the last few years, but if anyone's interested, I could share it.

Please do share.

[Holly85]

22 minutes ago, Pau84 said:

Please do share.

Alannah 

Edited December 12, 2020 by Holly85
Figured it out

[DCCFan2021]

1 hour ago, Holly85 said:

Alannah 

I really don't get why she's so far back in both the triangle and the team photo. She's proven herself to be a very solid and reliable performer - not sure if she's got the technique for SG (although recent additions are questionable as well) but she got called out for power her rookie year by Travis Wall and by Kelly opening week her second year. She's also a locker room favorite, and was shown doing outside-the-studio stuff with two rookies last year on the show, so she's clearly a people person. So why is she being treated like a rookie?

[ByTor]

2 hours ago, DCCOracle said:

4 hours ago, Pau84 said:

VK's point position would bring an end to my big dream: Amanda as point. 

Your dream might still become a reality if she sticks around.

I am 100% sure it will be Amanda...which means it won't LOL

[sATL]

10 hours ago, dreamcatcher said:

Ok Brianna is stunning but but but... That suit is awful and well it looks inappropriate to me, especially when her boobs are ready to make a surprise appearance. When I think how Kelli treated Heather for being victimized when she’s more than happy to treat the girls like playboy bunnies if that generates more income for her I get sooo mad. No one is expecting these girls to be saints, so quit the act ma’am.

 

ITA.

At first I would admit I might have been a little jealous in that I would have to been on the laser table for hours, preferably under anesthesia, to get every single hair removed...

Something about the suit is off. I also think its the color and I just don't care for the little "square" of fabric in the front.  I wonder what's in the back - just a little strip of cloth, with a little width as possible,  going down the crack ?

So if this picture was used for 2021, as a left over from 2020 - just what does 2020's suit/picture look like ?

Edited December 12, 2020 by sATL

[Opine]

11 hours ago, dreamcatcher said:

Ok Brianna is stunning but but but... That suit is awful and well it looks inappropriate to me, especially when her boobs are ready to make a surprise appearance.

Well, she is stunning, and I think the color is nice.  Maybe if they had adjusted the top down a bit, it would have looked ok.  It probably wasn't the best top choice for her figure.

 

1 hour ago, DCCFan2021 said:

I really don't get why she's so far back in both the triangle and the team photo. She's proven herself to be a very solid and reliable performer - not sure if she's got the technique for SG (although recent additions are questionable as well) but she got called out for power her rookie year by Travis Wall and by Kelly opening week her second year. She's also a locker room favorite, and was shown doing outside-the-studio stuff with two rookies last year on the show, so she's clearly a people person. So why is she being treated like a rookie?

Well, you know how Kelli is about teeth on some (but not all) folks ..... Alannah's mouth structure is a little different.  She's pretty and it's fine, but it is shaped a little like Kelsey Grammars.

[CrazyMoon]

12 hours ago, dreamcatcher said:

Ok Brianna is stunning but but but... That suit is awful and well it looks inappropriate to me, especially when her boobs are ready to make a surprise appearance.

I actually like the bottom...the top is simply too small. Like I told my own daughters...just because you can get it on doesn't mean it fits...

Edited December 12, 2020 by CrazyMoon

[Tuxcat]

4 hours ago, sATL said:

ITA.

At first I would admit I might have been a little jealous in that I would have to been on the laser table for hours, preferably under anesthesia, to get every single hair removed...

Something about the suit is off. I also think its the color and I just don't care for the little "square" of fabric in the front.  I wonder what's in the back - just a little strip of cloth, with a little width as possible,  going down the crack ?

So if this picture was used for 2021, as a left over from 2020 - just what does 2020's suit/picture look like ?

My two cents - the underboob seems to be a thing these days although I don't like it. But the bottom reminds me of feminine products belted on. Sorry TMI maybe.

[Tuxcat]

I didn't realize what Brennan's mask said. And she also waved VK off - distance!- in that new promo clip. The cut getting clearer and clearer. 

[GaveIn]

6 hours ago, DCCOracle said:

 

Here it is!

• Technical aspects to keep in mind:
  • I've gone back as far as Lacey's first year (2014/Season 9). I can always go back further if anyone wants to see more.
  • Names that have been bolded were 2 years (one rookie and one veteran year)
  • Similar to my 'confessionals' research, all information was pulled from the Fandom page. If anything is wrong, blame them! 😐

 

Thank you so much for the work put into these & sharing!!  This is the only place I can admit that I find it all very fascinating 😆  It is also a reminder of some great dancers that I still find a shame they didn't stay longer....I totally get how someone could be fed with DCC after a year or two, such a big loss to DCC.  It's like if you can't dedicate your life to DCC, you won't last long.  I feel like a lot of great dancers that left earlier than I would have wanted, all had solid career/lifes outside of DCC.