S10.E08: Hair Today, Gone Tomorrow

[poeticlicensed]

39 minutes ago, Miss Slay said:

I'm not a fan of Danielle but it's obvious the true fight is about having Danielle on the show. Margaret is fixated on the situation because she wants her off the show and the rest of the women have agreed not to film with her. Teresa is the last hold out - and because of that Danielle still gets invited to things and gets to be on the show with the rest of them.

Margaret lashes out at Teresa because she continues to invite Danielle to everything. If it weren't Danielle, and it was some other woman, people would be more outraged that all the husbands watched her sex tape as group. YUCK. No matter what they say, the housewives and house husbands, feel they can denigrate because whatever her past is. If they don't like her fine - but IMO, Margaret goes way over the top in what she says to her, excluding her, ect.

 

I have found that the reason that cast members make someone else their storyline is because they have no storyline of their own. I get that Margaret is super pissed about Danielle and that Danielle is toxic, but it seems like every scene with Margaret this season is all about Danielle. She needs to stop. Danielle has been kicked off the show once and no doubt her own behavior will get her kicked off again. Margaret doesn't need to be part of it. 

[zenme]

Jennifer’s kids are feral. It seemed like the family was annoyed by the behavior too. 
 

[heatherchandler]

3 hours ago, msrachelj said:

Anyone that buys a $600 candle should be ASHAMED! Buy a $50 candle, there are beautiful scented one out there. Floris, etc. and donate the rest to a charity. DISgusting!

I hope Tre keeps buying those $600 candles and spends all of her money on stupid crap and ends up living in an apartment above a pizza place because that is what she deserves! 

 

3 hours ago, FancyNancy said:

And the patch of hair she was missing 😄

Remember the styrofoam head she was lugging around with her too!

 

24 minutes ago, poeticlicensed said:

I have found that the reason that cast members make someone else their storyline is because they have no storyline of their own. I get that Margaret is super pissed about Danielle and that Danielle is toxic, but it seems like every scene with Margaret this season is all about Danielle. She needs to stop. Danielle has been kicked off the show once and no doubt her own behavior will get her kicked off again. Margaret doesn't need to be part of it. 

I agree, but I also understand her feelings.  You know when you have a good friend who insists on inviting along a person who you HATE, and this person needles you but the friend doesn't see it at all and keeps saying that the annoying person is really nice and fun.  But you KNOW she is a crazy asshole, but no one will listen to you... Let's just say I have been there! 

Edited January 3, 2020 by heatherchandler

[Keywestclubkid]

Flip that tho without Margret, Danielle has zero storyline she never has one unless she is fighting with someone.. from jump this has always been her storyline 

Edited January 3, 2020 by Keywestclubkid

[Normades]

1 hour ago, Dance4Life said:

YES!

This is how the cookie crumbled.  

They were both in on it,  but he is the one that paid the price....at the end.

No house, no wife, no kids, no USA! 
 

Teresa gets everything at the end.

She is still on the show........making big bucks.

 

Joe has lost control of the family. 
 

The deportation is the game changer here.  

Teresa gets everything, but remember, be careful what you wish for!!  Joe could end up being the real winner.  If he's smart enough (not so sure about that) to live a nice comfortable, quiet life in Italy, he could find real happiness.  Money and fame certainly don't equal being happy.  So far, I think Joe actually looks more at peace than Tre with her empty riches.  Of course who knows if that will last.

[BrindaWalsh]

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Margaret lashes out at Teresa because she continues to invite Danielle to everything. If it weren't Danielle, and it was some other woman, people would be more outraged that all the husbands watched her sex tape as group. YUCK. No matter what they say, the housewives and house husbands, feel they can denigrate because whatever her past is. If they don't like her fine - but IMO, Margaret goes way over the top in what she says to her, excluding her, ect.

I can't believe that I'm going to defend Danielle on this, however, I literally get sick to my stomach any time the housewives/show uses Danielle's past and current sexual experiences as an excuse to shame her.  Every single time the comments are absolutely vile.  From the men sitting around the table watching her porn, to  "Evan saw it and didn't want to have sex for 2 weeks!" to "her vagina has claws" -- all the way back to season 1, it is NOT okay and it will NEVER be okay and in this day an age, after all we've learned from this "Me Too" the fact that a woman like Danielle is somehow exempt from what's now considered acceptable about how we talk about women simply because she is so unlikable is just an indication of how far we haven't come.  Jackie is a highly educated woman.  Melissa is now a business-woman.  Marge is a successful entrepreneur - they, especially, should KNOW better than to use sex as banter and/or ammunition to attack another woman.  And if I were married to one of those men who sat around watching the porn of a woman they know, laughing at it, I'd rip him a new one for participating in such an action.  It is not okay.  

Hate her all you want for the problems she causes.  Leave sex out of it.  

And I don't understand why Marge lets her get under her skin for the cheating statements that she makes.  Margaret is always very forthright about the fact that she had an affair and remarried that man.  So when Danielle says "you slept with a married man!" to rile her up, the best thing she could do is NOT react to it.  

Marge's storyline right now is Jackie's storyline of Season 2 where she was on a mission to bring down Danielle.  JackieG doesn't have a storyline because I suspect her family is 1) too normal (boring for reality tv) or 2) she's really guarded on what she allows to be filmed and holds back probably without even realizing it or 3) some combination of the two.  Jennifer is reality tv gold.  Tre has all of her drama going on.  And Melissa is boring.  We all know she isn't having another baby.  

 

 

 

 

 

[Dance4Life]

38 minutes ago, Normades said:

Teresa gets everything, but remember, be careful what you wish for!!  Joe could end up being the real winner.  If he's smart enough (not so sure about that) to live a nice comfortable, quiet life in Italy, he could find real happiness.  Money and fame certainly don't equal being happy.  So far, I think Joe actually looks more at peace than Tre with her empty riches.  Of course who knows if that will last.

Of course! You are right. It is just a vast materialistic lifestyle as grotesque as their mansion.

She can only hope to get a Kim Zolciak ‘happy’ ending. Kroy seems to love Kim and her girls.

 

  But, I was not trying to be that deep.

 

Just meant....their life together was an empty big fat lie at the end.  Easy comes....easy goes. 
 

So, now he can certainly get away from it all.....and, start legit in Italy.  
 

He won’t. Joe is a POS.

 

They still refuse to admit they stole, lie, cheated and deserved what they got.

 

 He will get his divorce money and live off his HWs notoriety.

 

[tvfanatic13]

Apropos of  divorce, can Joe even seek money from Tre, as a non-citizen? I am not sure that he can use the courts for his benefit.

[mostlylurking]

I didn't really see it as Gia taking her dad's side, but more the fact that Joe is in a detention center and just venting, so T should be the bigger person and just let him vent.  Obviously, that's not going to happen but I think that's what Gia meant.

Danielle is truly scary.  Like I could totally see her cutting a bitch For Real.  I would NOT want to cross her.  The store workers looked scared.  I don't think the publicity generated for the store was worth that shit show.

While Margaret is right about Danielle, she needs to let it go.  Marty is a grown man and if he wants to give it a go with that lunatic again that's his business.

I loved Delores' hair in her th's!  The darker color really suits her.

[ichbin]

36 minutes ago, BrindaWalsh said:

And Melissa is boring.  We all know she isn't having another baby.  

Even if those two believed it would guarantee another season?  I'm not so sure.

 

1 hour ago, BrindaWalsh said:

Hate her all you want for the problems she causes.  Leave sex out of it.  

While I agree that the comments made by the others were vile, it is Danielle herself that has been bringing her sex life into the show going back to season one.  Out of the three it is Marge who has very little room to talk considering what she has volunteered to make public about herself and her mother, as though their sexploits should be measured on a different scale than those of Danielle.  Marge, Jackie, Melissa and the husbands all came off like a high school clique.

[BrindaWalsh]

7 minutes ago, ichbin said:

Even if those two believed it would guarantee another season?  I'm not so sure.

 

While I agree that the comments made by the others were vile, it is Danielle herself that has been bringing her sex life into the show going back to season one.  Out of the three it is Marge who has very little room to talk considering what she has volunteered to make public about herself and her mother, as though their sexploits should be measured on a different scale than those of Danielle.  Marge, Jackie, Melissa and the husbands all came off like a high school clique.

 

Agreed, she brings it up.  But that does not make it okay for the others to mock and degrade her because of her sex life, no matter what she puts out there herself.  

[ichbin]

5 hours ago, msrachelj said:

I agree. But let's not forget, Reality tv is not really reality. It IS scripted. Let's not let them make fools out of all of us and start believing it is all just the way we see it unfolding and just watch it for the sheer delight of seeing and hating on these horrible women and hoping Teresa gets what's coming to her someday! 

Believe me, I know.  I'm just pissed that they're not even trying to pretend anymore or give it some sense of "reality".  This franchise in particular is turning into farce. 

 

On 1/2/2020 at 2:08 PM, Baltimore Betty said:

That is funny when you think about it, maybe he wanted to keep his gold chain and Camaro should things go south. 

IROC-Z 28!  I thought that just a thing in the Italian-American town I grew up in.  I had no idea it spread throughout the tri-state area until I watched Eddie Murphy Raw and saw his bit about Italians going to see Rocky.  

[poeticlicensed]

3 hours ago, ichbin said:

Believe me, I know.  I'm just pissed that they're not even trying to pretend anymore or give it some sense of "reality".  This franchise in particular is turning into farce. 

 

IROC-Z 28!  I thought that just a thing in the Italian-American town I grew up in.  I had no idea it spread throughout the tri-state area until I watched Eddie Murphy Raw and saw his bit about Italians going to see Rocky.  

I grew up in the northeast in a heavily Italian American area and we referred to guys like Joe as "guidos". 

[lightninggirl]

On 1/2/2020 at 10:18 AM, Hiyo said:

She is Assyrian. I'm Orthodox Christian, and Arab, and we don't have the lamb's head on our Easter table. They might not also in Jenn's family as well.

Now, not knowing what stuffed grape leaves are? Yeah, that is a bit sketchy.

Do Assyrian Orthodox cross themselves like non-Orthodox do (left shoulder to right shoulder w/ the right hand)? I thought they were Eastern Rite, which cross right-to-left with the right hand.

And totally agreed r.e. the dolma. I have a ton of Turkish friends and I can never get out of their houses without a bellyful of dolma, and it's the one thing we can count on showing up at our gatherings.

[goofygirl]

Right there with y'all regarding Danielle.  She's just plain freaky and you don't ever know what's she's gonna do?

Re: the genuflecting.  I've been genuflecting all my life and I always go the other direction. Left then right.  Sometimes, I'll use one finger, sometimes two.  Anyhoo.... The thought is the same! EITHER WAY! It's all FINE!  Actually just a reminder that Jesus died on the cross for you.

I'm Episcopalian.

Edited January 4, 2020 by goofygirl

[sATL]

Medical Questions.. Dolores Dad...

First - I do wish him well wishes on his journey to get healthier.. He just want to do it his way - but going from 232 to 216.5, is good.  .. He will get to 190 - it just may take time.. and a little self-control & discipline.

#1  -I thought one was to wait 30 minutes after exercising to take an accurate BP ? It was 150/80 the after 10 min on the bike it was 120/70

#2  - I know any surgery has risks.. I guess there is no surgery for the widow maker - to unclog the arteries ? Or maybe they are trying alternatives to avoid surgery.. Delores makes it sound like he is knocking hard on death's door

 

[sATL]

On 1/2/2020 at 3:04 AM, Dance4Life said:

Is anyone else curious what a $675 candle smells like??

Like a candle that could be gotten anywhere for a whole lot  less.. sounds like his value was more so on the hand painted holder done in Italy more than the smell...

Edited January 4, 2020 by sATL

[Adeejay]

Every time Jackie says that Jewish women don't give b--- jobs, I scream at my television.  Clearly, she has never heard about Monica Lewinsky.  

[sATL]

On 1/2/2020 at 11:54 AM, luvgoldens said:

If Jennifer's husband is supposedly this prestigious plastic surgeon, aren't his surgeries scheduled?  Why is he being "called to the clinic" during the family Orthodox Easter meal?  Are there emergency face lifts, tummy tucks or breast implants coming in on Sunday?

 

On 1/2/2020 at 12:12 PM, Axie said:

He’s probably getting “called to the clinic” because his mistress is tired of waiting for him to show up.

Or he doesn't want to be around crazy. From traditions/customs he no longer practices ( if he ever did), doesn't know why/how the family does "this" , to not wanting to be around his in-laws and hyper children.

If the lamb head dish is served every year, at the Easter meal, the kids would be used to seeing it on the table and having a taste.  And more important, they should know why that dish is severed - how is it important to their custom/faith. I would say alot of the turnoff in dish was in the presentation.

 I do understand that all families/faiths have "holiday" dishes that pop out once a year, but if you take a poll, people don't want them anymore or maybe they should be prepared a little differently than prior generations, for health and taste reasons. For example, years ago cooks would get up at 0-dark-30 putting a turkey in the oven , basting it with that bulb thing all day. Now - people like fried turkey. I too serve some of the same dishes my parents were severed from their parents, but I tweaked them to be prepared a little more healthy. Some dishes go, and others come in. My thing is how bad could a person really want  to eat a dish - if they have gone all year without even bringing it up. 

Edited January 4, 2020 by sATL

[Baltimore Betty]

12 hours ago, sATL said:

#2  - I know any surgery has risks.. I guess there is no surgery for the widow maker - to unclog the arteries ? Or maybe they are trying alternatives to avoid surgery.. Delores makes it sound like he is knocking hard on death's door

My father had a triple bypass, he was having a heart attack, we did not know he had blocked arteries...it was a horrible emergency situation.  Did Father Delores have stents put in because I feel like his cardiologist would have put in stents at least, right?

 

[sATL]

On 1/2/2020 at 2:52 PM, poeticlicensed said:

I really want to know what exactly is in the pre nup. No cheatin, no spendin all the moola. What else?

yet  it was implied that it was so big/long that Tre didn't read it..just inserted a cheating clause...

I was thinking what the hell else could have been on the page?

And they knew about prenups but not about seeking advice/counsel to become a citizen ?

Edited January 4, 2020 by sATL

[amarante]

Honestly who on this show really has a "storyline" except Tre. 

Melissa is safe on the show so long as Tre is on the show because of the family dynamics.

Delores is probably also safe because she has organic ties to Tre and I think all of these shows are better when the women have some sort of actual ties aside from just being thrown together as cast members playing a part.

The others are really just satellites orbiting around Tre and will stay or go based on how amusing or outrageous their shenanigans are. 

I think the hatred of Beverly/Danielle goes beyond scripted annoyance in terms of having to shoot with her. Danielle completely abused Marge with the wedding for no apparent reason except being a psycho. If there was anything that explained her behavior it has never surfaced.

[sATL]

14 hours ago, Adeejay said:

Every time Jackie says that Jewish women don't give b--- jobs, I scream at my television.  Clearly, she has never heard about Monica Lewinsky.  

Jackie could be one of those women, or it could be her husband , who do not want their bedroom activities (good or bad), shared in common conversation.  That is something I truly respect.  Every couple is different and that is perfectly - ok.  

Jackie might just need to come up with an answer to change the subject or be honest that the topic is "off limits", to keep from adding fuel to the fire of nosy,  catty and over-sexed-up  women.

No matter what kind of sex Jackie has/had/wanted/could/couldn't do, she well is out of her league with this bunch, as the Melissa and Brother Joe have a 10 yr daily record, Danielle seems to give it up quickly to any man standing, Tre probably has the best vibrator collection money can buy, and Marge Jr probably has her own set of war stories. Jackie needs to accept she is kinda the "virgin" of the bunch and that is perfectly ok.

Where was Delores when this conversation went down in a clothing boutique ?

Looking back we can count the times Jackie hubby has been on camera longer than 2 minutes and bragging about his sexual antics and conquests, doesn't seem to be his personality. And that is  perfectly ok.

 They seem happily married, have 4 children, so obviously what they do or don't do in b/w the sheets, is working for them.

I feel the same way about the dr appt on Marge Sr getting her 72 yr old v-jay recharged and couldn't have sex for 3 days. Ewww... TMI.

Edited January 4, 2020 by sATL

[Primetimer]

Sarah's power rankings for this episode. Better late than never?
https://www.primetimer.com/features/rhonj-power-rankings-week-10-8-and-then-theres-teresas-reality

[ghoulina]

On 1/3/2020 at 11:42 AM, Normades said:

Teresa gets everything, but remember, be careful what you wish for!!  Joe could end up being the real winner.  If he's smart enough (not so sure about that) to live a nice comfortable, quiet life in Italy, he could find real happiness.  Money and fame certainly don't equal being happy.  So far, I think Joe actually looks more at peace than Tre with her empty riches.  Of course who knows if that will last.

All his bullshit aside, Joe does seem pretty low maintenance. He looked genuinely thrilled at the idea of living over the pizza place. 

At the end of the day, he is a grown man and didn't have to spend any money he didn't want to. BUT...I can see him feeling much more relaxed with out the ostentatious albatross, that is Teresa, around his neck.

[BodhiGurl]

Regarding the candle Beverly put Marge's stuff into - wasn't it lit? It clearly got wax on Marg's stuff - and considering that, how in the heck would someone have to pay $600+ to cover it - when it's clearly the store's candle. I'm sure he can just expense it, or whatever stores do to sample pieces. It's not like the holder was broken and the wax was completely depleted, I'm sure he can still use it. And now that I think of it, why would he have a lit candle going in a store - unprotected? Ultimately tho - $600+ for a somewhat small candle. Ridiculous. 

[biakbiak]

5 hours ago, ghoulina said:

All his bullshit aside, Joe does seem pretty low maintenance. He looked genuinely thrilled at the idea of living over the pizza place. 

Just because he might not care about his living circumstances doesn’t mean he didn’t want money to spend on a shit ton of other things, including his mistresses.

Edited January 5, 2020 by biakbiak

[ichbin]

On 1/2/2020 at 11:54 AM, luvgoldens said:

If Jennifer's husband is supposedly this prestigious plastic surgeon, aren't his surgeries scheduled?  Why is he being "called to the clinic" during the family Orthodox Easter meal?

It's my guess that the "Easter meal" was probably filmed on some other day, or week, or even month. I doubt the show schedules or has crews at each celebrating household on the actual holiday. 

[biakbiak]

20 hours ago, ichbin said:

It's my guess that the "Easter meal" was probably filmed on some other day, or week, or even month. I doubt the show schedules or has crews at each celebrating household on the actual holiday. 

Jennifer’s Orthodox and their Easter was a week later in 2019 and Melissa and Teresa we’re together and there clearly wasn’t a film crew at Dolores’s house, we saw nothing of Margaret and obviously Jackie doesn’t celebrate so I imagine they were filmed on the actual day.

Edited January 5, 2020 by biakbiak

[sATL]

11 hours ago, ichbin said:

It's my guess that the "Easter meal" was probably filmed on some other day, or week, or even month. I doubt the show schedules or has crews at each celebrating household on the actual holiday. 

yes.. I kinda thought that too.. The "Easter" meal was more about filming than celebrating on the actual date/ true reason for the holiday.

According to Google - Easter was Sunday 21 April 2019 . Orthodox  Easter 2019 was Sunday 28 April 2019.  

Delores family brunch/Easter Egg hunt really could have been filmed any day of the week, weather permitting (since the hunt was outside), when she was able to get everyone (ie her busy OBGYN Dr boyfriend)  under one roof... or find "extras" to look like there was a massive extended family.

Edited January 5, 2020 by sATL

[Baltimore Betty]

On 1/4/2020 at 9:43 AM, sATL said:

yet  it was implied that it was so big/long that Tre didn't read it..just inserted a cheating clause...

I was thinking what the hell else could have been on the page?

And they knew about prenups but not about seeking advice/counsel to become a citizen ?

I wonder if they even used legal counsel or just put on paper at home and did a pinky swear and called it a day. 

Even if they had a legal prenup I am quite sure there are extenuating circumstances that would cancel out the validity of that document, Tre could consult with her attorney who makes house calls (to houses with a film crew).

If I was Tre and my kid talked to me like that I'd tell her because so much money has been spent on her father's appeal there is no more money for an expensive prom dress or spending money for when she goes to college.

 

 

 

[NYCFree]

I feel sorry for Gia. My son is just a little younger than she is, he’s in his senior year now. When Gia’s family was basically falling apart around her, she took over as a second parent for her younger sisters, both when Tre was in prison, then again with Joe. Gia now acts like more of a peer? That’s what they made her.

The distress Gia felt during the ugly conversation was what a kid feels when their parents fight, they just want it to stop. 

[TV Diva Queen]

On 1/3/2020 at 2:32 AM, Skala said:

 

I’m Greek (Australian ) Orthodox and we all sign the cross exactly how you describe it . Been doing it all my life (43 yrs) how would you get it wrong if this is how you’ve grown up ? It’s been ingrained in me since a little kid and now is just automatic . It looked to me like she signed the cross the catholic way!! My Syrian and Lebanese Orthodox friends sign it the same as us !!!!

We also cook a whole lamb on the spit every Easter , including the head !!! My 4 kids who are similar age to Jen’s would never eat it but it’s something that they’re used to seeing and don’t bat an eyelid .

her kids reactions seemed staged ? Or are all her displays of religious and cultural traditions staged ?? 

my mom is catholic and it was very confusing as a kid to learn which way to do the cross.  But then I had a handy dandy way to remember, mom is lefty, dad was right - that reminded me which side I'd go to in which church, as a kid I always wanted to conform to other...lol  

[SweetieDarling]

According to Robbie Coltrane's character in Nuns on the Run, to do the sign of the cross, it's "Spectacles, testicles, wallet and watch." 

[Dance4Life]

3 hours ago, SweetieDarling said:

According to Robbie Coltrane's character in Nuns on the Run, to do the sign of the cross, it's "Spectacles, testicles, wallet and watch." 

Hahahahaha!  I don’t cross. I just scream....Santo Dios! 
 

I think most of the Catholic kids only pay attention until tween age.  And, after their confirmation....forget everything.

 

If you have a Quinceanera .....you have to take some classes and also get a very beautiful coming of age mass....where you cross yourself.

 

But, because of the pedophiles and genocides ......it is all too heartbreaking to think about the church.

[politichick]

On 1/2/2020 at 1:23 PM, kicksave said:

Teresa/Joe/Gia: Joe Guidice back to being the nasty bully he has been forever. I'm not a fan of Teresa...actually I can't stand her but that phone call from Joe made me angry for her. Joe isn't grateful to her for everything she has had to navigate since he's been incarcerated...he's resentful and angry. His absence has changed Teresa and made her more liberated from living under his thumb. She actually talked back to him and stuck up for herself...something she would not have done three years ago. As for Gia....I get the anger about her parents arguing and bickering but Gia has been in the middle of all of this for a long time. Some of this is on Teresa and Joe but Gia has inserted herself into a lot of grown up issues since she was a pre teen. She treats Teresa like crap and puts her father on a pedestal...Daddy isn't being combative...you are Mom! Her disrespect for Teresa was sad...if Gia had spoken this way to Teresa in front of her grandfather he would have gone "old school Italian" on her and smacked her for it. She's pretty full of herself.

I didn't feel like Gia was defending her father but was saying to Teresa that this is your personal business, don't drag me into that, especially at the prom dress shop.

[ghoulina]

14 minutes ago, politichick said:

I didn't feel like Gia was defending her father but was saying to Teresa that this is your personal business, don't drag me into that, especially at the prom dress shop.

Yes, but there were a few times when she outright called Tre out in favor of Joe. And, in her THs, Gia said that when her father goes off, she wishes her mother would just ignore him. Because he's "fighting for his life". I'm sorry, maybe I completely lack compassion - but Joe is where he is because of his own poor choices. I don't think that should mean he gets a pass and can be a complete jerk to his wife.

[HunterHunted]

On 1/2/2020 at 8:56 AM, Keywestclubkid said:

T is fucking dumber then a box of hair ...

On 1/2/2020 at 9:03 AM, esco1822 said:

Truer words have never been spoken.

 

When I was a kid, there was this cartoon called "A Pup Named Scooby Doo." I doubt anyone remembers it except for me. It was the Scooby Doo characters deaged to elementary school age. There was this episode that featured two warring fast food businesses. One sold everything in buckets. The other sold everything in paper bags. It was his soup of the day promotion that finally put the paper bag guy out of business. That has always been my benchmark for unbelievably stupid shit.

Teresa is dumber than a paper bag full of soup.

On 1/2/2020 at 10:24 AM, Axie said:

Weren’t Teresa and Joe high school sweethearts?  What could either one of them have possibly had to require a prenup?

There's no way they have a prenup. It makes no sense. I wonder if they have a postnup. When their finances and legal shit started to go sideways, a half decent lawyer might have suggested a postnup.

On 1/3/2020 at 1:13 PM, tvfanatic13 said:

Apropos of  divorce, can Joe even seek money from Tre, as a non-citizen? I am not sure that he can use the courts for his benefit.

Yes. Spousal support, child support, and dissolution of marital assets has nothing to do with being a citizen or a nonresident alien.

Did anyone watch the After Show? Danielle is bonkers. Danielle accused Marge of destroying her marriage to Marty by, get this because it's actually ridiculous, giving Marty the phone number of her divorce attorney while Danielle and Marty were in the process of annulling their marriage. First, it's probably a pretty good idea to have an attorney review the annulment paperwork. Second, your marriage is over if you're in the middle of annulling it.

Apparently Marge said Danielle has a dark soul, which Danielle thinks is somehow racist. How exactly? Maybe against demons. 

Edited January 6, 2020 by HunterHunted

[Keywestclubkid]

1 hour ago, HunterHunted said:

When I was a kid, there was this cartoon called "A Pup Named Scooby Doo." I doubt anyone remembers it except for me. It was the Scooby Doo characters deaged to elementary school age.

Jinkies!

[TattleTeeny]

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 Jennifer's kids run from the dining room every year when the lamb's head reaches the table?

I don't blame them; I wanted to scream seeing it too. 

[ErikaAlyson]

Margaret shouldn’t have poured water on Danielle. I’m surprised other people see it differently. If Margaret thinks so lowly of Danielle then she should of known how Danielle might retaliate. But yeah I can see Teresa and Danielle’s “friendship” not working out maybe later on. I’m not into the new girls at all. Bring back Dina or Jacqueline please lol even the twins lol

[Hiyo]

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Margaret shouldn’t have poured water on Danielle.

Yes, as much as we're supposed to be rooting for Margaret over Danielle, she shouldn't have done that.

[Higgins]

On 1/1/2020 at 10:59 PM, LibertarianSlut said:

I can’t stand when women with curves wear really tight outfits. It doesn’t look attractive to me.  It looks so desperate and tacky.  

I’m confused. Why?

[Higgins]

On 1/2/2020 at 11:54 AM, luvgoldens said:

If Jennifer's husband is supposedly this prestigious plastic surgeon, aren't his surgeries scheduled?  Why is he being "called to the clinic" during the family Orthodox Easter meal?  Are there emergency face lifts, tummy tucks or breast implants coming in on Sunday?

He could be on call with the ED. There are emergencies requiring plastic surgeons.  

Edited January 7, 2020 by Higgins
Because I can’t write well.

[Baltimore Betty]

15 hours ago, TattleTeeny said:

I don't blame them; I wanted to scream seeing it too. 

Ha Ha, As a kid I used to line up the condiments on the dinner table to block my view of a bowl of stewed tomatoes!

8 hours ago, Hiyo said:

Yes, as much as we're supposed to be rooting for Margaret over Danielle, she shouldn't have done that.

That is correct, all that did was poke the bear!

I wonder if Marge thought Danielle would melt like the Wicked Witch from the Wizard of Oz?

[Fig Newton]

Two things :

1.) Tre and Joe on the phone - would it have been so very difficult for Tre to say to Joe, "One of your four daughters and I are out dress shopping for prom. I will call you back when we are done."

Drives me fucking insane when people (real life or reality show) put their phone on speaker for everyone to hear the conversation. Really? Who the fuck cares? I don't.

2.) Do Tre and Joe have more than four daughters? Because, in the course of their phone call conversation, I am pretty sure Tre mentioned the four daughters about 2, 892 times. In my little head I was thinking, maybe daughter 5 was in hiding somewhere?

[Hiyo]

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In my little head I was thinking, maybe daughter 5 was in hiding somewhere?

Either that or she wised up and ran as far away from this circus as she could. The family does not speak about it all.

[BrindaWalsh]

16 hours ago, TattleTeeny said:

I don't blame them; I wanted to scream seeing it too. 

That thing was gross.  And it was boiled lamb?  That is just disgusting.  I am rewatching now and it sounds like it is something the kids do every year, not that they had never seen it before.  The dolmas thing made no sense unless the family just doesn't have homemade grape leaves at the table on a regular basis.  They are very time intensive to make, so it could be that they have them just once or twice a year on holidays.  So maybe that is why she was "introducing" them.  Or then again, maybe it was just for the sake of the cameras.  

Gabby looks just like her grandmother but with her fathers darker skin tone.

 

[LibertarianSlut]

3 hours ago, Higgins said:

I’m confused. Why?

It’s just not pleasing to my eye, the way dark lipstick might not be pleasing to someone else’s eye.*

*The reason I said it in reference to curves is because there are some really tiny women—like 100 lbs and below—who have to get their clothes closely tailored or they look like they’re swimming in them.  

I was talking specifically about Gia.  Her jeans looked like they’re painted on, and she was wearing a very tight white top to go to the dress-shoppping, and it looked bad to me.  It looked like she was desperate to show off every last curve on a shopping outing, as opposed to the beach.  I don’t get it.  I think if she really wants to wear tight jeans, then wear a flowing top.  A form-fitting sweater and a skirt would also look nice to me.  That’s just the way I prefer it.  If she were my child, I would let her dress that way if that’s how she wanted to express herself, but I don’t like the way it looks.

I also think it looks tacky and desperate for a woman with large breasts to wear an outfit that a woman who is an A-cup can wear easily. Dina talked about how she was embarrassed to wear tight tops around her daughter in season one.  I think ginormous cleavage should be covered, except for special occasions, and when a lot of tape is available.  These are all just my aesthetic preferences.  I’m not taking a moral stand about it.  

In her Destiny’s Child days, Beyoncé said that it’s ok to show off your midsection, breasts and legs, but never all at once, and I agree with her.  

[HunterHunted]

1 hour ago, Fig Newton said:

Drives me fucking insane when people (real life or reality show) put their phone on speaker for everyone to hear the conversation. Really? Who the fuck cares? I don't.

Unfortunately, it's a trope of the docuseries genre in part because Bluetooth has some wonky reactions with their mic packs AND it's an easier way to film a phone conversation, especially for someone like Joe whose side of the conversation can't be filmed or mic'ed.