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S10.E08: Hair Today, Gone Tomorrow


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Margaret tries to do damage control regarding her Vineyard Vines lawsuit; Melissa & Joe share their baby news with the kids; Teresa invited all the ladies to a shopping event; Margaret & Danielle's feud reaches new heights.

Airs Wednesday, Jan 1, 2020

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I too am concerned about Jennifer and Bill's kids behavior but I HAVE to say, quite impressed with their oldest daughter (whose name I can't recall!).  She seems really grounded and insightful!  They must be doing something right!

I think the whole "let's keep Daddy being deported to Italy" from Audriana (who we KNOW is 9 years old, for cripe's sake) is only going to make it harder for Audriana to trust the people who say they love her.  It's not like Joe passed away.  He has to live in Italy. BFD.  Keeping secrets even from 9 year olds isn't a good thing, IMHO.

Danielle is a completely scary person.  Why Teresa stays so loyal to her is just a mystery.  Obviously, everyone else has seen Danielle for who she really is but poor old dumbass Tre just refuses to see it.  I guess when she has to remove the knife in her back, compliments of Danielle; she MIGHT just catch a clue.  And I mean knife in back LITERALLY.  I think Danielle is THAT KOOKOO!!

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Marg shouldn't have thrown water on that nutcase, it never actually melts witches in real life, but Danielle's freak out and taking Ashley's role in season 2 is not what a GOOD PERSON does. Uhg. That was trashy all around.

 

 I don't buy Jennifer's mom is so in denial over her gay son but is fine filming these scenes. It doesn't add up. People they know will see and know (if they actually don't )

 

Sorry. Gia has been through a lot but I can't fathom yelling ENOUGH at my mom and living let alone getting a dress. Juicy started that. Gia thinks she's equal to all adults and girl, no.

 

Joe Gorga not wanting Antonia to watch the sex ed video but apparently had access to Danielle's porn for the guys is as on-brand as you can get.

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51 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

Jennifer's entryway is about the most depressing thing ever. 

And her kids give me anxiety. The way they ran away from the lamb's head was so extra. They're too old for that shit. I may not support spanking, but those kids need some sort of punishment for their disrespectful behavior. 

Well, Gabby (and Jenn) are getting a lot of props on-line for attacking the issue of homophobia in their culture.  That was the real take away here - the two generations breaking the cycle.

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What a snooze fest.

Hey, we didn't see Frank this episode.

I'm sorry but I find Gia to be soooo self righteous.   Always has been.

Could the ice cream outing been any more staged?

I just can't with Jenn and her family.

Margaret went in a little too hot but the hair pulling? 

It's all getting over the top trashier and trashier and no fun.

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It's on AGAIN and the fight's just about to start.  I noticed Danielle and Tre had plenty to say about Margaret!  Then Danielle starts with the "mean girl" business and Tre says "Danielle's my friend, show some RESPECT!"  Then the shit show begins!  SOOOO DUMB!

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It’s so weird that Jen’s kids are sharing a room when she lives in a giant mansion. Her household energy seems melancholy, even with family over.   The kids need so much more structure than they’re getting. 

Melissa’s family is so contrived that watching them makes my teeth itch. This is another set of parents who can’t relate to their kids worth a damn. When they try to act like a family, it’s like bad improv. 

I can’t stand when women with curves wear really tight outfits. It doesn’t look attractive to me.  It looks so desperate and tacky.  

Joe has no right to complain about how much dresses, nails or hair cost if he’s not making any money. He totally did start in with Teresa, and aggressively. And Gia saying that Teresa needs to keep her mouth shut take it is a little scary. 

Wow...Joe made Teresa sign a prenup? So much for old school Italians!

Melissa was really irritating this episode. She’s glad to be at Steven Dann so she can shop outside her own store?  What’s stoping her from going to the mall?

Who cares if Jackie and Evan don’t have oral sex? Why is Melissa putting all of the onus on the guy? 

Teresa, Danielle and Margaret all really hold onto things. But Teresa and Danielle are delusional if they say Margaret broke up Danielle’s marriage.  It’s really hard for someone who is not an object of affection to break up a marriage; Margaret was right about that.

I’m not going to say I didn’t enjoy that part at the end—women fighting in ridiculous get-ups in daylight is about the most entertaining thing that’s happened in a few seasons. Everyone was wrong. Danielle is just always starting shit and putting people on the defensive. Teresa is wrong for stirring the pot and trying to get Danielle to fight with Margaret as her proxy. The other five are wrong for laughing about Danielle’s sex organs at a social event where they were overheard. I’m not on anyone’s team. Margaret was wrong to initiate physical contact and I said this last year when she threw Marty in the pool—you just don’t put your hands on people (or pour a drink on them, which is legally an extension of your hands), and Danielle was wrong for destroying Margaret’s things in the store. It’s so obvious that they’re doing it for drama’s sake, so I can’t take too much umbrage. I don’t even feel bad for Steven Dann. He knew exactly what he was getting into, and the event probably wouldn’t have even made it to air if they had just talked civilly while they shopped.

Is it just me, or are Teresa and Danielle starting to resemble each other?  Both overly made up, overly tanned with extra thick brunette highlighted extensions, growing hard in body and cynical about life?

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7 minutes ago, Bronzedog said:

I really have to wonder what is wrong with all the men who have been engaged to Danielle.  And, Marty who married her.

Does anyone really believe she's been engaged 20ish times?

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Danielle is vile, and tonight's display played as another one of her desperate and sad attempts to get back on the show as a cast member.

Teresa's an idiot for befriending and defending her. But she doesn't care so long as the person is 100% "loyal" to her.

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Why Teresa stays so loyal to her is just a mystery.  Obviously, everyone else has seen Danielle for who she really is but poor old dumbass Tre just refuses to see it. 

Except...Teresa has seen it. During the first two seasons of this show.

Someone needs to make a slow-mo supercut of their past interactions, like Tre flipping the table at Danielle, Tre chasing Danielle through the country club, Tre tossing Andy like a salad to get to Danielle, maybe set to The Way We Were? Just to remind us all of the deep and wonderful friendship these two have always had.

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Joe Gorga not wanting Antonia to watch the sex ed video but apparently had access to Danielle's porn for the guys is as on-brand as you can get.

Keep it classy, J Gorga!

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What was Danielle doing with the contents of Marge's purse? Was she dumping them in a container? She was actively breaking things and one candle was $675 so the store owner could, and should have pressed charges.

Danielle really has an issue with what others think about her. She cannot let it roll off her back and move on. She said she was a good person and I think she truly believes that. It was awesome to see Marge actually throws facts at Danielle about the abuse allegations and watch Danielle have nothing to say. Then she had to go low and bring up the affair. Again. Obviously Marge is aware that her actions were wrong and she still has guilt for it and is still dealing with the fall out because of it. She has always owned it and never pretended she didn't have an affair. Danielle on the other hand, bringing up her past is a sure fire way for her to snap.

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Is anyone else curious what a $675 candle smells like??

 

I thought I was a bad bish with my $75 candles!  I just lit one....and, all of the sudden my room smells like the Walmart shoe aisle! 🤣

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Wow, Joe was quite the jerk during that phone call. Teresa was buying a dress for *your* daughter. Since you're apparently not paying the bills any more, shut your trap. Then trying to guilt her because you're paying for your part in what went down was a stellar move. How embarrassing that this took place in a store. For all the public fighting that goes on in these shows, I think this one took the cake. Gia and Joe both need to zip it. Honestly, if I were Teresa, I'd probably be flipping tables.

Danielle may be a psycho, but Marge sure knows how to lay it on heavily. She should know better than to bait the bear. She also seems to be such a dual personality. One minute she is all sympathetic support, and the next she is going for someone's jugular. I wouldn't want to cross her.

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When the store owner said the candle was "six seventy five," I thought he meant six dollars and seventy five cents, which seemed about right to me.

After five years of stress and separation from a parent, the last thing Gia needs is to see her parents fight in front of her, regardless of who is right or wrong. Her misplaced blame of her mother may be because she sees her father as a victim and is defensive of him.

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WTF on Danielle pulling The Marge’s hair, considering her own tearful and litigious reaction when Ashleeee did the same to her in season 2.  Yes Marge definitely should have not taken the bait and poured a drink on her, but Danielle's reaction was over the top.  I agree with Jennifer - she scares the shit out of me.  (Danielle is the one RHW that I feel is actually capable of murdering someone.)  I am no fan of Teresa, but I do fear for her- Danielle holds a grudge and it’s just a matter of time before their friendship goes sour.

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Jenn has a lot of money yet her holiday table looked terrible, weird chair placement on her extra long table, the randomness of it all.  She mentioned that everyone comes to her house because she has more room, I was waiting to see 50 people coming for dinner and an egg hunt but it was maybe 12 people. 

Why is it that Jenn is always coiffed, dressed well and clean looking but her kids, oy vey, they look like they get no attention at all, messy hair, sloppy clothes and her younger daughter with the purple eye shadow???  Cut to the scene when the older daughter asking her grandmother about her gay uncle and the church supposedly loving everyone but gay people, unnatural and awkward at best...her grandmother's reaction was priceless, after grunting something she waits a minute and then drinks some random glass of whiskey and Jenn wanders off.

Doesn't production step in when there is a physical altercation, was there anyone trying to break up the hair pull?

 

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2 hours ago, Skala said:

I’m orthodox and I’m pretty sure Jennifer did the sign of the cross incorrectly !! 

I don't all the details, but there are 2 ways of doing it. Orthodox maybe signs backward? Most commonly is the opposite of the way Jennifer did it. 

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9 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

Does anyone really believe she's been engaged 20ish times?

I believe it. I also believe that the vast majority of those engagements ended when she let her crazy out. I think she fakes it long enough to the engagement then gets lazy and slips and the guys go running for the hills. That or she is just scamming for engagement rings that she can sell for cash. 

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1 hour ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Before Danielle left Steven Dann whispered something to her, he can't possibly be on Team Danger, right?

She also appeared to sort of kiss him on the mouth to which, WTF lady??? What is even happening here?

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2 hours ago, Skala said:

I’m orthodox and I’m pretty sure Jennifer did the sign of the cross incorrectly !! 

First thing I looked for and she did do it wrong.  Also, this Greek has had a lamb's head at probably 50 Easter tables - it was ridiculous that Jenn's kids were running around like they never saw one.  Its just something you grow up with, its at the table your entire life - like a gravy boat - its just there.  Also, and her explaining to her family what dolmades are......really?  So fake!

30 minutes ago, msrachelj said:

I don't all the details, but there are 2 ways of doing it. Orthodox maybe signs backward? Most commonly is the opposite of the way Jennifer did it. 

We hold our index finger, middle finger and together (the trinity) and do forehead, heart, right shoulder, left shoulder,  we do that move three times.  

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Remember when Danielle was actively going after Jacqueline's daughter because she didn't feel "safe" after getting attacked at that fashion show? And she was trying to sue and press charges and how Ashlee was an animal that shouldn't be around people and the Danielle couldn't leave her house because she thought her or her daughters would be attacked again? LOL

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7 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Remember when Danielle was actively going after Jacqueline's daughter because she didn't feel "safe" after getting attacked at that fashion show? And she was trying to sue and press charges and how Ashlee was an animal that shouldn't be around people and the Danielle couldn't leave her house because she thought her or her daughters would be attacked again? LOL

And she started to travel with her "bodyguard" Danny!  That guy was the biggest loser, following her around, starting fights at charity dinners.

 

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1 minute ago, heatherchandler said:

And she started to travel with her "bodyguard" Danny!  That guy was the biggest loser, following her around, starting fights at charity dinners.

In one of the after show videos Danielle talked about how this is different. She claims she had to get 4 stitches, that her head hit the pavement (we all saw it a million times, it did not) and that she slipped 3 discs because of the incident. But since she just pulled Marge's pony tail, it's not the same. 

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Also, this Greek has had a lamb's head at probably 50 Easter tables - it was ridiculous that Jenn's kids were running around like they never saw one. 

She is Assyrian. I'm Orthodox Christian, and Arab, and we don't have the lamb's head on our Easter table. They might not also in Jenn's family as well.

Now, not knowing what stuffed grape leaves are? Yeah, that is a bit sketchy.

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18 minutes ago, Sarah Heart said:

After five years of stress and separation from a parent, the last thing Gia needs is to see her parents fight in front of her, regardless of who is right or wrong. Her misplaced blame of her mother may be because she sees her father as a victim and is defensive of him.

Joe is an ass , but Teresa having this conversation on speaker in a store where they're having a nice mother daughter moment, and then allowing it to be recorded and broadcast is wrong on so many levels. I'm sure production is loving it but shit, Gina has been humiliated for years by her parents behavior and I don't blame her for lashing out at Tre.

This is not to say that Tre was wrong in saying what she did. She has been supporting the family. But Gia is right. This should be a private conversation.

 

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28 minutes ago, esco1822 said:

In one of the after show videos Danielle talked about how this is different. She claims she had to get 4 stitches, that her head hit the pavement (we all saw it a million times, it did not) and that she slipped 3 discs because of the incident. But since she just pulled Marge's pony tail, it's not the same. 

She is so full of fucking shit lol

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9 minutes ago, Lady of nod said:

Joe is an ass , but Teresa having this conversation on speaker in a store where they're having a nice mother daughter moment, and then allowing it to be recorded and broadcast is wrong on so many levels. I'm sure production is loving it but shit, Gina has been humiliated for years by her parents behavior and I don't blame her for lashing out at Tre.

This is not to say that Tre was wrong in saying what she did. She has been supporting the family. But Gia is right. This should be a private conversation.

 

Tre is a pro.  Gia is a mini pro.

Remember season 1.


Gia the actress and Tre the Stage Mom. 🤣



This is the Giudice Girls spin-off!
 

After 10 years of defending Joe.........Teresa is willing to air her dirty laundry with Joe to exploit this divorce.

 

She wants sympathy from her fans.

 

 

Oh, you never treated me right!  

 

You made me sign a prenup!

 

They negotiated these prison calls, too.  This is how Joe is getting his check.

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9 minutes ago, Lady of nod said:

Joe is an ass , but Teresa having this conversation on speaker in a store where they're having a nice mother daughter moment, and then allowing it to be recorded and broadcast is wrong on so many levels. I'm sure production is loving it but shit, Gina has been humiliated for years by her parents behavior and I don't blame her for lashing out at Tre.

This is not to say that Tre was wrong in saying what she did. She has been supporting the family. But Gia is right. This should be a private conversation.

 

That whole conversation was just so wrong on so many levels, starting with having it in the dress boutique.  This is supposed to be a happy time in Gia's life, and her parents' bickering ruined it.  Second, the whole conversation NEVER should have taken place within Gia's earshot.  I get the feeling that young woman has been witness to many, many arguments/discussions like this over her lifetime, even before Joe went "away".  

Joe did start the argument, but Teresa should have had the sense to either take the call off speaker (oh, wait - Teresa having sense, and also not putting her life on display for reality TV - what was I thinking?? LOL) or not take the bait that Joe was throwing out.

I get that Joe is probably extremely frustrated at his life at this point, and he will and does seem to place blame at everyone else's feet except his own.  His lack of accepting self responsibility for not becoming a citizen is so beyond belief.  I don't know what the reasons were for him not becoming a citizen, and we can speculate all day long and never know, but whatever it was, it was his own responsibility for not taking care of his own stuff.  If he had, he would not have been stuck in the ICE center, and would be back home living with his wife and daughters.  So maybe he's pissed at himself for his past bad choices and stupidity and is taking it out on Teresa?  I don't know.

I also think that hearing they have a pre-nup is pretty interesting because that doesn't seem like a normal thing in old-school traditional NJ Italian families such as theirs...unless Joe already had something to hide as far as finances and money.  

The last thing about that conversation that bothered me was hearing (and Gia also hearing) that Joe didn't want to get married in the first place.  If I were Gia, that would have upset me beyond everything else.  Who wants to know that they are a product of an unhappy or unwanted marriage?  That was sad.

I always felt that Teresa was more invested in the marriage than Joe was, and I guess we now know that to be true.

What I don't understand is, if he was so unhappy and didn't want to be married in the first place, why did he stay?  Was it because he was unfaithful, and Teresa could prove it, so the pre-nup would become void?  Was it a "cheaper to keep her" thing?  

Whatever the case, Gia was wrong to place the blame for the whole thing directly at her Mom.  I think that Gia is putting Joe on some type of victim pedestal because he is her father.  She maybe should think twice about that - especially when her Mom is buying her a prom dress that probably cost over $1,000.00 and is walking around with a Louis Vuitton backpack purse and other designer clothes that her Mom has probably purchased.  

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10 hours ago, funnygirl said:

Danielle is vile, and tonight's display played as another one of her desperate and sad attempts to get back on the show as a cast member.

Teresa's an idiot for befriending and defending her. But she doesn't care so long as the person is 100% "loyal" to her.

While the other women were 100% wrong for talking about Danielle while she was within earshot (like a bunch of mean girls in high school), I don't get Danielle with this "have my back" mentality, always.  Why does she always have to have someone to back her up?  Can't she confront a group of gossipy women on her own, in a mature way?  Of course she can't, because she is certifiably nuts, and needs constant affirmations that she is a normal person.

Danielle is beyond damaged and needs extensive therapy to get past her upbringing, the choices she made as a young adult, and get to the root of what is troubling her.

On the other hand, Margaret can be a not nice person, also.  She can throw out some really nasty insults, slurs and digs - we've seen it before, not just with Danielle.

BUT....everything out of Margaret's mouth was apparently the truth.  WHY did Danielle accuse Marty of abusing her daughters and herself?  WHY did she take out a restraining order on him?  And WHY is she now living in the same house with him?  I wish that the other women would have just shut up long enough for Danielle to answer those questions.  I wish that Teresa would have stopped defending Danielle for a minute and tried to comprehend the questions being asked of Danielle.  Teresa is really just so not bright in so many ways.  She does not get nuance or innuendo (she probably doesn't even know what those words mean, let alone detect when a nuance or innuendo is apparent), and unless someone sits her down when she is completely calm and explains things to her in simple terms, she just doesn't see it.  

I was wondering about throwing Margaret's things in the $675.00 candle - was the candle burning at the time, so that Margaret's things would be covered in expensive, scented wax?  What was the purpose of that?  

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I actually do blame Teresa for Joe's troubles.  He wouldn't have been forging documents and lying to banks to get millions if it wasn't for her.  I get the feeling he likes to have nice things, and he is obviously the mastermind behind it all, but I think Teresa was the guiding force.  She wanted nice cars, the big house, etc.  She knew he had to resort to illegal measures to get the stuff.

And yeah she's taking care of everything now, and she can only do that because she is on a tv show and makes WAY more than she should be making.  Her life is full of lunches, dinners, and fashion shows.  No one who isn't on tv gets to do this and get paid for it.

And I imagine she won't be able to keep up this lifestyle for that long.  Even tv doesn't pay as well as grifting.

 

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Teresa’s parents would never have tolerated sass like Gia was putting out, but Teresa is riddled with guilt, and it has clouded her parenting. 

If I were these women I would give Danielle a wide berth~ she is for real crazy. 

I like Margaret but she is being played by Marty. Any man that has any interest in Danielle has to be damaged goods. 

Jennifer flies under the radar as a kooky girl, but I think she’s crazy like a fox- very conniving.....

I would love to hear some stories about Delores’ dad back in his gun slinging days ( heard a few rumors)......

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