S07.E05: Magic Ashton

[OnceSane]

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Kevin pulls out all the stops with a 10-course tasting menu to impress Lee; a charter group of thirsty single women arrives and requests a provocative show; as frustrations run high, Ashton attempts to reel in a checked-out Abbi.

Airs November 4, 2019.

[biakbiak]

Oh good more creepy women making unwanted advances on the male crew. It’s seriously sleazy and I wish someone would point it out but realize that is unlikely on this show.

[pieinmyeye]

You need to jump off this pedestal you’ve put yourself on Kev. You act like the Captain is giving you a hard time just to be an ass. From what I’ve seen, you are far from being God’s gift to the cooking world and everything you’ve been told is valid!

[tinaw]

Abbi is not gonna be on this boat much longer. She is too much

[pieinmyeye]

Go home, Abbi! The bitching and the comparisons between the yacht and the sailboat are beyond tiring.

[Emmeline]

I do love a good penis ravine and yes, Abby go home.

Edited November 5, 2019 by Emmeline

[whydoievencare]

Abbi doesn't seem used to being asked to work hard or being accountable to a boss.  Also, I find her blasé attitude to becoming engaged really weird.

[ghoulina]

I'm so beyond over Abbi. I'm sick of seeing her hair down. Sick of her not turning on her radio. And fucking sick of her comparing yachting to tooling around on a sailboat that your "fiance" (more about that later) owns. They're very different. What did you think you were signing up for? 

She's just completely out of line. Ashton isn't one bit jealous of her. He wants her to do her job. Look at the difference between her and Tanner. He's clearly way more sick than she was (considering she wasn't even sick) and worked right through it. She has no work ethic. 

And who gets engaged via text? Or at least, who finds that romantic? Well, maybe not as romantic as talking about getting divorced before a date has even been set. 

Kevin is another mess. I'm not sure why he's working in such a high pressure environment. He can't even handle someone having a conversation near him. And he vacillates from one extreme to another. Can't handle Captain's mild criticism, so I'll just stuff the guests to death. 

I liked that Kate switched it up with Simone and Courtney. She's very cognizant of keeping her stews AND the guests happy. 

I'm not really loving all the sexual harassment from the guests towards Ashton. He's a good sport, and maybe even enjoys the flattery. But imagine a group of male guests treating Kate that way. Not cool. 

[PaperTree]

Abbi: "Rules are just not my forte."  Start your own business or find a sugar daddy.

"Engaged by text.  My eyes are rolling off the boat."  Courtney delivers!  LOL!

True love in the twenty teens.  At 36 (I think), Kate is right at the edge of X ers and Millennials.  Older people have been whining about "kids these days" for centuries.  It's stupid.

Now she's planning her divorce before the wedding.  OK.  She and her hair won't be missed.

A boatload of party girls!  Here we go!  They held their liquor very well.  Brandy could learn something from them.  Pace yourself, honey.

The davit repair seemed to go quickly and effortlessly.

Kevin is the baby to 3 sisters.  That explains a lot to me.  He's been doted on forever.

Thinks he's the hardest working person on the boat.  Please.  Have some more whine.  Now he's going to really knock it out with a 10 course "extravaganza", making lots of work for the servers.  Was there any meat on any of those tiny, tiny plates?  The guests seemed to like it and that's all that really matters.

I don't like gnochhi.  Too thick and pasty.  Never had tongue.  I'm told it's great, I would probably try it, but don't spring it on me for my meal.

Poor Tanner.  "I thought this was f*****g done"  Been there.

The whole Ashton/Brian thing has me confused.  The ladies loved the lap dance though.  Give the people what they want.

[spunky]

Abbi take your text message proposal and go home! As a fellow Millennial, I had second hand embarrassment for her. A text message proposal is not something I would be bragging about. I don’t need him to buy an expensive ring, but at least put in the effort of asking me in person. Kevin please leave the boat when Abbi does. Thank you in advance for your cooperation.

Yet another set of thirsty women making inappropriate comments about and to the male crew. Ashton was just loving every minute of being over sexualized for these women’s entertainment. I don’t care how much money you pay for a charter, being inappropriate with the crew should be off limits.

[TexasGal]

6 minutes ago, PaperTree said:

"Engaged by text.  My eyes are rolling off the boat."  Courtney delivers!  LOL!

I don't like gnochhi.  Too thick and pasty.  Never had tongue.  I'm told it's great, I would probably try it, but don't spring it on me for my meal.

Courtney wins the episode for that one.

I love gnocchi, but it seems heavy for lunch on a yacht.  I thought he was making it for dinner.  I also like tongue but I grew up eating it and didn’t really think about what it was.  Otherwise I would probably have been grossed out by the thought of it.

[HunterHunted]

Abbi is Rocky by way of Rhylee. Ugh-xhausting! She has all of Rocky's flakiness and whining about work, being cool, and not having fun while combining Rhylee's over the top need to be sexually validated and general insubordination. Plus she's got Merida's hair, wants to be free, and doesn't want anyone to tell her what to do.

I'm hoping there's a dotty Scottish witch who will grant Abbi her wish and get her off Valor and maybe turn someone in her life into a bear. Maybe her fiance/fuck buddy beary?

[howiveaddict]

I think Abby gained a fiancee when she realized that the rest of the crew wouldn't be showmancing her on camera.  She really seems needy for attention.

Courtney has become one of my favorites. I love her sarcastic wit.  

[SuprSuprElevated]

33 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

What did you think you were signing up for? 

A yachting gig filmed for television, with a large viewership.  That would be my guess anyway.  

[dosodog]

I just watched Ashton on WWHL.  Caroline Rhea was the other guest.  She pointed out that when Ashton says Below Deck it sounds like Below Dick.

And now I can't unhear it.

I've never been a fan of the double standard when it comes to men, women and strippers.  

[MVFrostsMyPie]

2 hours ago, dosodog said:

I just watched Ashton on WWHL.  Caroline Rhea was the other guest.  She pointed out that when Ashton says Below Deck it sounds like Below Dick.

And now I can't unhear it.

She must have read my comment from last week about how “deckhand” sounds like “dickhead”. 
 

These dickheads are lame.

Also, there’s probably got to be a parody Below Dick porno out there, right?

[biakbiak]

I don’t understand why women (or men) think it’s okay to sexualize people that are working for you. STOP IT! It’s not cute, funny, or empowering, it’s gross, demeaning and predatory. Yes, Ashton said yes because he wants a nice tip but that doesn’t make It okay.

[scrb]

Sheer amount of laundry they generate is insane.

Guess the weather is bad for clean clothes but any coastal area in the summer is going to require daily laundering.

But yeah, Simone needs to get out of that dungeon, at least once a day.

As for the unhappy crew members, I guess now they're casting and planning in a way to have turnover during the season all the time now?

So they might cynically cast someone whom they know will cause problems or just want to bail.  Abbi is out there barefoot and she couldn't help the other guy who was lifting up the slide by himself.  Because he asked her to hurry up to help him, she goes to cry and says she's tired of this shit?

Of course the captain and Kate will play the game to try to bully the chef, again to have some story about him not doing his job.  He's made mistakes (assuming it wasn't some scripted bullshit) but he's delivering food that the guests love.

So why the fucking bullshit drama?

[biakbiak]

21 minutes ago, scrb said:

Of course the captain and Kate will play the game to try to bully the chef, again to have some story about him not doing his job.  He's made mistakes (assuming it wasn't some scripted bullshit) but he's delivering food that the guests love.

Kate literally did nothing this episode other than cheerlead and support Kevin and gave him several compliments.

[MJS]

4 hours ago, biakbiak said:

Kate literally did nothing this episode other than cheerlead and support Kevin and gave him several compliments.

C'mon, it’s all Kate's fault, always! 
 

😂

[jmcd44]

On 11/2/2019 at 12:43 AM, biakbiak said:

Oh good more creepy women making unwanted advances on the male crew. It’s seriously sleazy and I wish someone would point it out but realize that is unlikely on this show.

I feel like I could’ve quoted any of your posts. It’s gross. Men have said gross stuff for years to the stews on this show (I remember someone asking Emily Rabbit about her V) & everyone was always horrified. Why is it ok for women to yell at deckhands to take their shirt off? While they are working too-part of their job is safety. I don’t scream at attractive male flight attendants “TAKE OFF YOUR SHIRT” during their safety demo. I know I constantly sound like a stick in the mud on this site (maybe that’s why I like Kate?) but I promise I’m fun-I’m just grossed out by this stuff in 2019. 

I thought Kevin did alright with the food this week-lots of the courses looked yummy to me.

I adore Courtney now-she has a great dry sense of humor.

As for Abbi-the rumor I’ve seen is 

Spoiler

She leaves during the 7th charter. And we get Rhylee  

[pasdetrois]

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As for the unhappy crew members, I guess now they're casting and planning in a way to have turnover during the season all the time now?

Below Deck: Temp Agency

[scrb]

5 hours ago, biakbiak said:

Kate literally did nothing this episode other than cheerlead and support Kevin and gave him several compliments.

She said in a TH that to Kevin the yacht is all about him and his cuisine and the rest of the crew is just living in his world.

[Sage47]

5 hours ago, biakbiak said:

I don’t understand why women (or men) think it’s okay to sexualize people that are working for you. STOP IT! It’s not cute, funny, or empowering, it’s gross, demeaning and predatory. Yes, Ashton said yes because he wants a nice tip but that doesn’t make It okay.

It’s par for the course with a boat load of older women, lol. Is it “right”? Officially, no. But don’t kid yourself, Ashton LOVED being able to whip his shirt off and show off his abs and sexual grinding for viewers to see. He was in his element! So, as long as men are lapping up the attention, women are going to scream at them to “take your shirt off!” It’s just that simple. 

Wow, Simone got a bum deal this season. She’s just the Laundry Lady-slaving away ironing in the bowels of the ship, no storyline in sight. 
 

Abbi is now engaged but a week ago wanted to fuck Ashton? K. 👍🏼
 

She is seriously annoying. And shiny. 
 

[terrymct]

10 hours ago, PaperTree said:

The davit repair seemed to go quickly and effortlessly.

The engineer should have been able to do it him/herself.  The hardest part is getting the shroud/cover off and then back on. 

I hope as a going away present, the crew gives Abbi a big bottle of shampoo.  She's fairly useless, but not mean or truly crazy as some people have been on this show in the past.   Ashton's reaction to her was part frustration at trying to get her to work, but also a sizable amount of jealousy and pissiness after her weird engagement announcement.

This group of guests is fine.  No headcases, a lot of drinking and trashy comments, but they do seem to be enjoying the boat, water, and food.  They're the first group we've seen go down that stupid, time consuming slide more than a token time.

Kevin's description of this family went a ways in explaining his malfunction.  He's a little prince, expecting praise for literally everything he does and for someone to always be at his beck and call.

[dleighg]

I must be getting old. I am a bit "surprised" that the next episode is called "Penis Ravine." 

[esco1822]

41 minutes ago, scrb said:

She said in a TH that to Kevin the yacht is all about him and his cuisine and the rest of the crew is just living in his world.

Seriously? Kevin has behaved that way since day one and last night literally said he's the hardest working person on that yacht and you have no issue with that, it's just always about how awful Kate was. Last night, Kate was kind, patient and supportive of Kevin. She complimented him often and did a great job stroking his ego. She created ZERO drama, she pulled Simone out of laundry and made zero complaints to Captain Lee. To pull out that TH moment is really so phenomenally hyper-critical, it's actually impressive. Come on, you can do better than that. You forgot about her talking to Courtney about Abbi being a brat. Do better next time. 

[walnutqueen]

I feel sorry for the person who had to wash all the dishes after Kevin's 10 course tasting menu.  

* 8 diners x 10 courses = eleventy billion dishes, if my math is correct

Edited November 5, 2019 by walnutqueen

[Lizzing]

I will say this for ole Mr. Dobson: his taco looked a far sight better than Mila's.

If they hadn't shown a picture of Abbi's boyfriend, I'd have thought he was Shane from RHoOC, with that text proposal (now that GChat is a thing of the past). 

Courtney & Josiah would have made a great team together on this show; they could out-wry one another.

[PaperTree]

29 minutes ago, esco1822 said:

Kevin has behaved that way since day one and last night literally said he's the hardest working person on that yacht

And exactly how does Kevin know how hard everybody else is working?  If he's always watching them, he's not doing his job.  Did I see him trying to help out on deck?  He should go label his spices.

My guess is that title goes to the invisible Engineer.

I've worked with whining martyrs like him.  Not fun.

[dangwoodchucks]

36 minutes ago, dleighg said:

I must be getting old. I am a bit "surprised" that the next episode is called "Penis Ravine." 

I must be getting really old, until next ep’s preview last night I didn’t know that area had the name “Penis Ravine”.

These kids annoy me getting into bed with their nasty feetses. Especially Abbi who walked home from the bar barefoot then climbed in bed.

I knew the stews ironed the epaulet shirts but do they also iron all the other uniforms like polos and shorts? That’s a ridiculous amount of ironing especially when they’re on charter and guests have things to take care of as well. Seems like they could use fabric, for the shorts at least, that wouldn’t need pressing to look nice.

[Mr. Miner]

24 minutes ago, walnutqueen said:

I feel bad for the person who had to wash all the dishes after Kevin's 10 course tasting menu.  

The delicate little douche flower had Brian mop the galley and Ashton wasn't happy about it.

[dleighg]

2 minutes ago, dangwoodchucks said:

I must be getting really old, until next ep’s preview last night I didn’t know that area had the name “Penis Ravine”.

I googled it. It is apparently *not* a thing. The references all pointed back to Below Deck.

3 minutes ago, dangwoodchucks said:

These kids annoy me getting into bed with their nasty feetses. Especially Abbi who walked home from the bar barefoot then climbed in bed.

I totally agree. Yuk.

[walnutqueen]

4 minutes ago, dleighg said:

I googled it. It is apparently *not* a thing. The references all pointed back to Below Deck.

So, I guess now it is a thing.  Thanks, Kate - I needed that.

[Koalagirl]

Well, Courtney can roll her eyes all she wants but Abbi and her boat captain got married.  For now, at least!

https://people.com/tv/below-deck-abbi-murphy-married-after-text-engagement/

[bichonblitz]

Ha! Loved it when Kevin, spoiled baby of the family, was crying to his sister about how mistreated he was and she basically said suck it up, do your job and don't let me see you showing up on my doorstep. Tell it, sister!

Could Capt'n Lee be any more of a sour puss this season? I know he's pissed at Kevin and rightly so but damn he refuses to crack a smile with any of them even his beloved Kate. I wouldn't want him as a guest at my table if I was chartering that boat, he has no charm what so ever. Can he even carry on decent dinner conversation?  

[dleighg]

11 hours ago, TexasGal said:

love gnocchi, but it seems heavy for lunch on a yacht.  

I also think he slightly burnt them. Some were very dark brown.

[biakbiak]

1 hour ago, Sage47 said:

So, as long as men are lapping up the attention, women are going to scream at them to “take your shirt off!” It’s just that simple. 

They screamed take your shirt off at them when Brian and Ashton were 10 feet away and ignoring them so they clearly don’t care if they like or don’t like the attention.  Yes, it’s going to happen doesn’t mean it’s should and doesn’t make the women different than sleazy men who do it. 

50 minutes ago, dangwoodchucks said:

must be getting really old, until next ep’s preview last night I didn’t know that area had the name “Penis Ravine”.

Back in my day they were called “cum gutters”.

[scrb]

1 hour ago, esco1822 said:

Seriously? Kevin has behaved that way since day one and last night literally said he's the hardest working person on that yacht and you have no issue with that, it's just always about how awful Kate was. Last night, Kate was kind, patient and supportive of Kevin. She complimented him often and did a great job stroking his ego. She created ZERO drama, she pulled Simone out of laundry and made zero complaints to Captain Lee. To pull out that TH moment is really so phenomenally hyper-critical, it's actually impressive. Come on, you can do better than that. You forgot about her talking to Courtney about Abbi being a brat. Do better next time. 

Yeah well I pay attention to her actions and the things she say in all episodes, not just one, across more than just this season.

We don’t know how this show is edited.

It’s also more duplicitous to talk shit behind a person’s back.

Stop being such a fan.

[scrb]

21 minutes ago, dleighg said:

I also think he slightly burnt them. Some were very dark brown.

Never seen it pan fried.  Did he boil them first and then sauté them in olive oil?

I know they’re suppose to make fancy meals but it seems pointless to make them from scratch unless he used some unique filling though gnocchi or any kind of fresh pasta may not be easily available in Thailand.  

I like pasta but some kind of Thai noodles would have been fine too.

[ohcomeon]

39 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

Ha! Loved it when Kevin, spoiled baby of the family, was crying to his sister about how mistreated he was and she basically said suck it up, do your job and don't let me see you showing up on my doorstep. Tell it, sister!

That was my favorite part. His being whiny is obviously standard behavior based on her response to him.

[OnceSane]

Snarking the show and its participants?  Yay!

Snarking each other? No way.

Keep your comments to what happened on the show, your fellow posters are not up for discussion.

[dleighg]

closed captions can be amusing. It took me a bit to realize what on earth he meant. I was picturing some sort of raft (made of spherified bloody mary mix????). Then realized it was " palate" LOL

[The Ringo Kidd]

Kevin should definitely quit. Captain Lee is threatening to fire him every episode. I thought his tasting menu was excellent and very well done. He can’t come back from the Captain’s negative attitude. On the last season of Med Ben had many of his dishes returned to the galley untouched. To the point that he started raving about it. Every chef is going to have a dish or two that is a misfire. It happens every season. If the Captain is looking for an excuse to fire you it’s better to quit than get fired.

[Shellbell59]

This has probably already been said....I’m only minutes into episode but already seething...COOK Kevin’s attitude...

“nobody’s complained about my food” IS NOT THE EQUIVALENT

of NOBODY SINGING YOUR PRAISES! ...you tool....

(Other than the guests who were so drunk...even I cudda warmed their tummies and deconstructed or fancied it up enough to get by...for F sakes!)

dipshit!

get OVER yourself dude! 
btw loved when Cap Lee said...

” If you don’t want an honest answer...I’m not the one to ask”

Boooyah!!!!

Edited November 5, 2019 by Shellbell59

[Otherkate]

2 hours ago, scrb said:

Never seen it pan fried.  Did he boil them first and then sauté them in olive oil?

I know they’re suppose to make fancy meals but it seems pointless to make them from scratch unless he used some unique filling though gnocchi or any kind of fresh pasta may not be easily available in Thailand.  

I like pasta but some kind of Thai noodles would have been fine too.

Sauteed gnocchi can be delicious and you don't need to boil them first. His looked too well done to me. I'm the biggest gnocchi fan in the world, but I wouldn't want them for lunch because they are quite heavy.

This is my first season watching this show and I really expected a lot from Kate because of the glowing reviews she gets on the Med thread when compared to Hannah (who I actually like), but Kate bugs me. I think it's her hair, honestly. I'm very shallow and easily bothered. That said, she seems to work hard at being a good manager. I found her to be nothing but encouraging with Kevin this episode. Kevin seems like a spoiled brat and I hope he leaves. 

Meant to mention that I found it SO sad when Ashton explained how doing that dance could make all the difference in the tip. Ugh, that's not cool. 

Edited November 5, 2019 by Otherkate

[biakbiak]

14 minutes ago, Shellbell59 said:

nobody’s complained about my food” IS NOT THE EQUIVALENT

of NOBODY SINGING YOUR PRAISES! ...you tool....

Seriously, and the bar is fairly low even Mila got praise.  This also highlights a key difference between Lee and Sandy, he is evaluating Kevin’s food through observation and his opinion versus Sandy going out and actively asking if anything is wrong which increases the likelihood of complaints.

[ghoulina]

4 hours ago, scrb said:

She said in a TH that to Kevin the yacht is all about him and his cuisine and the rest of the crew is just living in his world.

This was after Kevin chided Simone and Abbi, like a school marm, because they dared to have a conversation in the same room HE was having a conversation in. 

[scrb]

2 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

This was after Kevin chided Simone and Abbi, like a school marm, because they dared to have a conversation in the same room HE was having a conversation in. 

Wasn't that in the galley?

Abbi doesn't have to be having a conversation in the galley.

[biakbiak]

9 minutes ago, scrb said:

Wasn't that in the galley?

Abbi doesn't have to be having a conversation in the galley.

They were getting stuff from the galley so yes at that moment they did need to be in the galley. They weren’t yelling or even talking loudly they were having a work related conversation and grabbing stuff from the shelves.