S04.E11: Monte Car-loco

[OnceSane]

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The crew enjoys a day off at an exclusive resort in Monte Carlo, but some of them are faced with more than they bargained for. Joao and Hannah have a heart to heart, while June tries to open herself up to Hannah with not so favorable results. Meanwhile, Travis confronts Joao over his treatment of Aesha. A new group of energetic charter guests come on board, and with Anastasia’s confidence shaken by poor reviews from the previous charter, she tries to regain her swagger. But when the guests complain about cold food, Sandy begins to wonder whether Anastasia has what it takes.

Airs August 12, 2019.

[Mindthinkr]

Wow. This is the second time that I’ve come to a thread and found it dead. Is PTV becoming redundant? 

Anyway, I have liked this show and would like to discuss it. 

[FairyDusted]

I'm watching truffle fries being delivered right now @Mindthinkr! I'll. be back!

[dosodog]

I think Joao should not have said Aesha looked like a paid date.  That was so wrong.

Otherwise?  I'm in agreement about the behavior at the pool.  Your employer made the arrangements, so while your on your own time, you are still representing the company you work for.

20-30 something dosodog wouldn't have given a second thought to the behavior, but 55 year old Doso has learned there is a time and place to stroke or pat genitalia and that was SO NOT the time and place.

It was, for me, a disgusting, over the top display.

I will accept that I'm of an age where I am judgemental.

 

[Lamima]

I don't have a problem with being judgmental. It helps keep behaviors in check...or it should. If you get a free pass for every crappy thing you do then you will keep doing the crappy things. 

[Lamima]

And who the heck is the drunk who thinks he can call a meeting with his boss to lecture him on how he treats Aesha....his friggin boss??? After he got black out drunk at the dinner table, called his date boring and was rude to the wine sommelier. Get the eff out with that shit, Jack Trevor or whatever you're irrelevant name is.

Edited August 13, 2019 by Lamima

[snarts]

If Joao didn't have a history of degrading/slut shaming women who aren't interested in him, I might cut him some slack. Why does he constantly single out Aesha when Jack & Trevor are just if not even more crass and loud? Hmmm, you might be a misogynist if....

[PaperTree]

Jack and Aesha are still gross.

Travis is such a drunken asshole.  Aesha is not his problem, but she really is becoming one.  Jwow handled that well. 

Hannah needs to get over her brother thing and stay away from Travis.  June is so clueless.  I thought Hannah was trying to be friendly and she totally twisted that around.

These guests are going to be a challenge.

Ana needs to cover the food or get something like pizza bags to keep it warm.  Maybe a better plating system to move it out faster.  The crew will need trays to handle oven hot plates.  Not sure if that's a solution.  They could use a microwave behind the bar.  Why did the fries take so long?

I hope there's some fun with the police.  These idiots deserve to get slapped.

[fountain]

I too found the behaviour at the hotel trashy. Commenting on Aesha looking like a hooker was also trashy though. I think her outfit was the least trashy of most things done that day. I personally would have left whichever that passed out guy was to sleep at the pool.

The food stuff is funny as what’s her name is so defensive. They should just buy some cloches don’t they see how restaurants with lots of guests or long distances from the kitchen use them. They work pretty well.

Next week we have an on camera barfer, I am surprised we haven’t seen more.

[Lamima]

1 minute ago, snarts said:

If Joao didn't have a history of degrading/slut shaming women who aren't interested in him, I might cut him some slack. Why does he constantly single out Aesha when Jack & Trevor are just if not even more crass and loud? Hmmm, you might be a misogynist if....

In the same vein Joao gets jumped on when he acts the jerk. Trevor is being called out. Yet everyone must tip toe around Aesha's ill behavior because she is a girl...fragile little flower???

[fountain]

In the preview it looks like Colin is quitting (is that right name?) Maybe he is sick of working with trashy assholes? He seems like a decent person but I have only watched this season.

[breezy424]

Except for the hooker comment, I'm team Joao.  Aesha is a nice girl but she is totally trashy.  As well as Travis and Jack.  Who the heck behaves like that at a high end resort?  It 'is' embarrassing. 

And then we have Travis lecturing his boss while he almost passed out drunk at the dinner table and took the bottle of wine so he could open it himself.  Look in the mirror before you start criticizing others.

There was no reason for the truffle fries to not be served with the lamb burgers.  They're in two different cooking devices.  And yeah, heat the dishes.  They can be held with a towel to protect the server's hand.

June.  June.  Hannah.  I can't believe this is still happening.

Looks like Colin has gotten fed up.  Too bad.  He's really a nice guy but some of this crew is just....  I wouldn't want to be around them especially Jack, Travis and 'June, June' and Aesha. 

[Yours Truly]

Thing is Joao didn’t call her out. Aesha noticed his body language and decided to try and call him out. As misogynistic as it seems he’s not wrong. It wouldn’t be okay if he was gyrating and grabbing his junk in a public place, making lewd gestures all in the name of “being silly”. I can’t believe I’m defending him but I’m very offended and disgusted with her behavior. It’s one thing to be playful but as a women I would have been offended and very uncomfortable with her behavior. I don’t want to see all that and there is a line that shouldn’t be crossed. Why should she be allowed to be so graphic in her sexual innuendos and expect people around her to just deal with it? I’m never okay with people having this whole “oh lighten up” mentality when it comes to what you think you should be able to subject me to. Aesha does stuff for effect and for attention. She can’t then decide what kind of reactions she invokes from the crowd. Can’t have it both ways sweetheart. I’m annoyed that she thinks that she should be allowed to dictate how someone receives her vulgarness. It’s not okay for her to impose her brand of whatever to others and then tell them they have to be okay with it. I think she caught Joao roll his eyes or slightly shake his head. Oh well, he has a right to his reaction. He didn’t say anything or give anyone else at the table a look he just went about eating his food. 

I will say that I absolutely hated him saying she looked like a Russian girl you pay for. I really cringed cause aside from a couple a missteps this season he’s actually been really good about a lot things. Crazy, I know. 

Edited August 13, 2019 by Yours Truly

[hoosiermommy]

Aesha has said, in so many words, that she is vulgar. She acts vulgar. She doesn’t get to get upset when someone finds her behavior vulgar instead of precious.

[ParadoxLost]

I don't understand Sandy's strategy for dealing with Anastasia.

She doesn't call out the food at the crew tip meeting.

But then she wants to speak to Hannah and Anastasia after.  But the charter guests said service was excellent and she didn't really touch on anything that the stews could do to help.  Did a bunch of stuff that explained why Sandy wanted an audience end up on the cutting room floor.

I also don't think that Sandy going to every meal and asking how the food was because they want to improve for the next meal or the next charter is helpful.  She needs to leave that to Hannah to handle.  Sandy is coming across like some crazed HR person.  The one thing that would irritate me more than food with problems, is the Captain coming at me in a way that makes it clear that this is a known issue that didn't get fixed before I plunked down thousands of dollars for subpar meals.  It would make me wonder what other problems there are that I haven't noticed yet.

Also what is up with Sandy noticing how poorly Anastasia is responding to criticism and then dragging her up to have her listen to the guests repeat what they already told Sandy.  As a guest, that's not what I would want to spend my evening doing.

[jaybird2]

3 minutes ago, Yours Truly said:

Thing is Joao didn’t call her out. Aesha noticed his body language and decided to try and call him out. As misogynistic as it seems he’s not wrong. It wouldn’t be okay if he was gyrating and grabbing his junk in a public place, making lewd gestures all in the name of “being silly”. I can’t believe I’m defending him but I’m very offended and disgusted with her behavior. It’s one thing to be playful but as a women I would have been offended and very u comfortable with her behavior. I don’t want to see all that and there is a line that shouldn’t be crossed. Why should she be allowed to be so graphic in her sexual innuendos and expect people around her to just deal with it? I’m never okay with people having this whole “oh lighten up” mentality when it comes to what you think you should be able to subject me to. Aesha does stuff for affect and for attention. She can’t then decide what kind of reactions she invokes from the crowd. Can’t have it both ways sweetheart. I’m annoyed that she thinks that she should be allowed to dictate how someone receives her vulgarness. It’s not okay for her to impose her brand of whatever to others and then tell them they have to be okay with it. I think she caught Joao roll his eyes or slightly shake his head. Oh well, he has a right to his reaction. He didn’t say anything or give anyone else at the table a look he just went about eating his food. 

I will say that I absolutely hated him saying she looked like a Russian girl you pay for. I really cringed cause aside from a couple a missteps this season he’s actually been really good about a lot things. Crazy, I know. 

i can't stand aesha...i can't stand her VOICE &/her irratating laugh

[bosawks]

All I could think watching the slovenly drunk trio of Aesha, Travis, and Jack huddled together with their cigarettes and Coronas was how awful the collective haze above them would smell.

[FairyDusted]

The crews day off was really a shit show. Travis shit faced drunk. Aeshia being her vulgar self and getting checked. Not an excuse to call her a hooker though. And I don't want a wank off schedule for the guys either. 

June June Hannah..

These guests are a handful! I'm all for fun but hey now, no cops!

My biggest bitch cooking is I suck at timing but why didn't she have them ( fries) cooking while she used the stove top? 

June June Doesn't give a fuck.

[Yours Truly]

6 minutes ago, bosawks said:

All I could think watching the slovenly drunk trio of Aesha, Travis, and Jack huddled together with their cigarettes and Coronas was how awful the collective haze above them would smell.

I mean when ur biggest cheerleaders are Sir Works a NOT and Drinky McDrunkerson..... ??? Do you really think you have a valid argument? 

[spunky]

This season I’m team Joao. It was wrong of him to say that Aesha looked like a paid date, otherwise he was spot on about everything else. He was absolutely correct about Aesha’s, Jack’s and Travis’ disgusting behavior. They were on a company sponsored outing and behaved in a disrespectful manner. For someone who knows nothing about Aesha’s past,he hit the nail on the head. Her traumatic experience is part of the reason why she acts the way she does. Scratching your private parts in front of everyone is just gross and shows lack of class. Travis drank to the point that even Colin was disgusted with him. Then there’s Jack who has no work ethic and is also classless. Anastasia needs an attitude adjustment and quickly. Travis needs to learn to leave his personal feelings at the dock and not threaten his boss with getting pissed off.

The guests seem like they love a good time . Ole boy needed to follow simple instructions and not go over by the other boats. It’s not that hard. Bravo stop hyping non-issues. The police didn’t even come close to them. Thank you Captain Sandy for (A) making Anastasia stand on her own two feet (B) coming up with the common sense solution of keeping the plates in the oven so that they stay warm. Poor Anastasia doesn’t understand that we love a lot if seasonings and spices in our food. So even though she seasoned it, it wouldn’t have tasted seasoned because there wasn’t a lot. 

1 hour ago, dosodog said:

I think Joao should not have said Aesha looked like a paid date.  That was so wrong.

Otherwise?  I'm in agreement about the behavior at the pool.  Your employer made the arrangements, so while your on your own time, you are still representing the company you work for.

20-30 something dosodog wouldn't have given a second thought to the behavior, but 55 year old Doso has learned there is a time and place to stroke or pat genitalia and that was SO NOT the time and place.

It was, for me, a disgusting, over the top display.

I will accept that I'm of an age where I am judgemental.

 

33 year old Spunky agrees with you 

Edited August 13, 2019 by spunky

[ParadoxLost]

The thing with Joao is that he always goes just far enough with voicing his disgust that he singles out the woman as being worse than the man.  Most of what he says about Travis and Jack in THs is not nearly as bad as what he is comfortable saying to Aesha directly.  I take issue with that.

The hooker comment was uncalled for.  It seemed like it was carryover from his thoughts about the behavior from the pool.  So why didn't he have something to say about Jack?

I found the confrontation at dinner a little hard to follow because someone had clearly told him that Aesha had been raped in the past and he was trying to walk back / smooth over in the TH how he had treated her in the episode.

[Yours Truly]

12 minutes ago, ParadoxLost said:

The thing with Joao is that he always goes just far enough with voicing his disgust that he singles out the woman as being worse than the man.  Most of what he says about Travis and Jack in THs is not nearly as bad as what he is comfortable saying to Aesha directly.  I take issue with that.

The hooker comment was uncalled for.  It seemed like it was carryover from his thoughts about the behavior from the pool.  So why didn't he have something to say about Jack?

I found the confrontation at dinner a little hard to follow because someone had clearly told him that Aesha had been raped in the past and he was trying to walk back / smooth over in the TH how he had treated her in the episode.

I don’t think he has to balance his comments. Aesha is the one taking issue with Joao and Aesha is the one calling Joao judgemental so he spoke out on it. She specifically wanted to speak on the subject. Do I think Joao has sexist tendencies. Hell yeah, but then again most men do. Still doesn’t make his observations about the way Aesha has been behaving wrong. 

Edited August 13, 2019 by Yours Truly

[spunky]

13 minutes ago, ParadoxLost said:

The thing with Joao is that he always goes just far enough with voicing his disgust that he singles out the woman as being worse than the man.  Most of what he says about Travis and Jack in THs is not nearly as bad as what he is comfortable saying to Aesha directly.  I take issue with that.

The hooker comment was uncalled for.  It seemed like it was carryover from his thoughts about the behavior from the pool.  So why didn't he have something to say about Jack?

I found the confrontation at dinner a little hard to follow because someone had clearly told him that Aesha had been raped in the past and he was trying to walk back / smooth over in the TH how he had treated her in the episode.

Aside from his escort comment, he didn’t say anything to her. She’s the one who tried to call him out because he doesn’t find her vulgarity amusing.  He barely speaks to Beavis and Butthead, therefore he wouldn’t know about her rape. He told her that she reminds him his mother who also uses a larger than life personality to hide her pain from a past traumatic experience.

[ParadoxLost]

5 minutes ago, spunky said:

Aside from his escort comment, he didn’t say anything to her. She’s the one who tried to call him out because he doesn’t find her vulgarity amusing.  He barely speaks to Beavis and Butthead, therefore he wouldn’t know about her rape. He told her that she reminds him his mother who also uses a larger than life personality to hide her pain from a past traumatic experience.

The escort comment is what I take issue with.

I don't think that Joao knows about the rape in episode time.  I do think someone told him about it, even if it was production, before the TH was filmed.

[spunky]

1 minute ago, ParadoxLost said:

The escort comment is what I take issue with.

I don't think that Joao knows about the rape in episode time.  I do think someone told him about it, even if it was production, before the TH was filmed.

It’s possible that production told him.

[Yours Truly]

I think Aesha tries very hard to turn sexual play into silly, harmless playfulness. Maybe by recatoragizing sex into some cartoonish asexual thing it makes her experience not sting so much?? I dunno but the way she does all this sexual stuff makes me think that she’s trying hard to make sex NOT a big deal and therefore what happened to her not as traumatic??? 

[biakbiak]

7 minutes ago, spunky said:

It’s possible that production told him.

Hannah and Travis were also in the van when she talked about it so it’s also possible that someone told him to tell him to lay off the comments like comparing her to a prostitute and policing her behavior on the dance floor. 

[LotusFlower]

56 minutes ago, Yours Truly said:

I think Aesha tries very hard to turn sexual play into silly, harmless playfulness. Maybe by recatoragizing sex into some cartoonish asexual thing it makes her experience not sting so much?? I dunno but the way she does all this sexual stuff makes me think that she’s trying hard to make sex NOT a big deal and therefore what happened to her not as traumatic??? 

It’s common for rape victims to turn promiscuous for exactly this reason.  To take control of the sex.

I learned this from Dr. Drew. /embarrassing.  

[Kdawg82]

I think what Joao should have (and possibly wanted to) say to Aesha is "I like you. I think you're a kind /beautiful person with a lot of other positive qualities. Please hold yourself to the highest standard as those around you who know you  better also do." By her acting out, it elicits negative attention when she deserves positive attention. And Jack, as he claims to care for her, isn't raising her UP when he eggs on trashy behavior. I can include Trav in that, too. Feels like Joao may have huge issues with women drinking alcohol. Someone should dig into *his* past. 

It's looking like Colin may be wanting to leave. That sucks but when personalities don't mesh, it takes a toll on your ability to work effectively. I've been there before and it's not fun.

I see Hannah's point about Travis having a drinking problem and being a pretty nice guy aside from that. She cares but *he* has to be the one to care. Looks like Hannah and Joao are getting a redemption edit this season. The stable /sober ones, finally! 

Anastasia is an arrogant bi**h. Nothing sweet there. 

[FairyDusted]

5 minutes ago, Kdawg82 said:

I think what Joao should have (and possibly wanted to) say to Aesha is "I like you. I think you're a kind /beautiful person with a lot of other positive qualities. Please hold yourself to the highest standard as those around you who know you  better also do." By her acting out, it elicits negative attention when she deserves positive attention. And Jack, as he claims to care for her, isn't raising her UP when he eggs on trashy behavior. I can include Trav in that, too. Feels like Joao may have huge issues with women drinking alcohol. Someone should dig into *his* past. 

It's looking like Colin may be wanting to leave. That sucks but when personalities don't mesh, it takes a toll on your ability to work effectively. I've been there before and it's not fun.

I see Hannah's point about Travis having a drinking problem and being a pretty nice guy aside from that. She cares but *he* has to be the one to care. Looks like Hannah and Joao are getting a redemption edit this season. The stable /sober ones, finally! 

Anastasia is an arrogant bi**h. Nothing sweet there. 

I was right there cheering you on until your final statement.Dohhhhhh! 😉 I totally do think she is arrogant but I stop short on calling her a bitch. Truthfully, I may have been swayed by the sneak peak  I saw tonight on WWHL. My jaw hit the fucking floor.

[bichonblitz]

3 hours ago, Lamima said:

And who the heck is the drunk who thinks he can call a meeting with his boss to lecture him on how he treats Aesha....his friggin boss??? After he got black out drunk at the dinner table, called his date boring and was rude to the wine sommelier. Get the eff out with that shit, Jack Trevor or whatever you're irrelevant name is.

Right?? I think Joao kept his composure during that little lecture. It could have gone in a very different direction. 

[Jlina]

31 minutes ago, FairyDusted said:

I was right there cheering you on until your final statement.Dohhhhhh! 😉 I totally do think she is arrogant but I stop short on calling her a bitch. Truthfully, I may have been swayed by the sneak peak  I saw tonight on WWHL. My jaw hit the fucking floor.

Oooh! Spoiler bar it? Tks!

[FairyDusted]

10 minutes ago, Jlina said:

Oooh! Spoiler bar it? Tks!

I’m sorry I can barely post the very basic post! I will post it in WWHL thread for you though! 

[Delete]

Aesha acts very vulgar, and what she was doing at the pool was gross.   Joao called her on it. It absolutely the one time I agree with Joao. I wouldn't want to be near Jack, Travis, or Aesha.  P.S. She didn't look like a hooker tho. That was out of line for him to say. 

June is a complete airhead. She couldn't even speak to the guest properly as to why she was wearing a red shirt.  DOH!

Captain Sandy is such a helicopter boss. She was on Anastacia's tail immediately about the food. If she didn't fully think she could the job properly then hire someone else.  Don't prolong the torture for another charter.

Looks like Colin is going to quit. I've missed his fun-loving ways from the previous season. It's pretty apparent that he's uncomfortable with most of the crew, and that in itself isn't worth the time, nor the money. It's not like a regular job where you can go home at night and be around idiots 24/7. 

Edited August 13, 2019 by Barbara Please

[VagueDisclaimer]

1 hour ago, FairyDusted said:

I was right there cheering you on until your final statement.Dohhhhhh! 😉 I totally do think she is arrogant but I stop short on calling her a bitch.

Maybe let’s call her behavior “bitchy”, then.  Because her snapping at Aesha about their different jobs and the brain power involved can’t be described as anything but “bitchy”, imo. Also her attitude with this new charter, “the fries are coming...when they’re done cooking!” Yes, she said this in a TH, not to their faces, but I don’t think Anastasia earned that attitude, nor did those guests. Wanting your complete meal hot and ready is not them being “picky”.

I did have to laugh at her excuses regarding the food temperature. Oh, woe is me, she’s plating their food all by herself! And...and the interior staff have to bring the food all the way upstairs (as if that’s some great distance lol). For once, I’m glad Capt Sandy was hovering and buried Anastasia’s excuses with “we’ll put the plates in the oven”. Because, come’on. This is the second charter to complain about temperature. Stop reaching for excuses and defenses and offer some solutions, maybe?

Edited August 13, 2019 by VagueDisclaimer

[FairyDusted]

Well thought out points. I can see that part of her more clearly. LOL. This time she was way off my radar. I was way too busy with the rest of the hoopla🤔

[scrb]

Seems like there's a momentum building up about Ana's food being not good enough.

The first two charters, when Mila was fired and then the next one when she was made chef were fine.

Now Damon and then this crew has all kinds of comments.  As much as they complained about the food, Damon's crew left a big tip.

So maybe there were complaints in the earlier charters and they just didn't air them in the episodes?

Or is this another producer manipulation, prodding the guests to make complaints and ask for their food to be done again?

And then you have Sandy hovering over each meal, asking them if they have anything to say.

It's their prerogative to try to spice up the show, if they think it will attract more viewers that way.  

But looks like Anastasia gets frazzled the next episode, on the verge of tears.  Either she's playing a great role or they're fucking with her and they've broken her confidence.

[biakbiak]

Wait Travis is only 26!!!!! I must have missed this information in the past because he looks like shit!

Why aren’t they using cloches? I swear they have used them in other seasons and it’s been windy and colder because it’s getting later in October.

Also, the plates can’t be too warm because otherwise it’s going to be a problem for the stews to carry them.

So even though June gets called out by Sandy at the tip meeting she doesn’t even do the basic thing of turning on her radio? And than just tells Hannah “oh well I was on break!!!!” She is the worst.

Edited August 13, 2019 by biakbiak

[Lizzing]

I too was SHOCKED Travis is only 26.  I would have thought he was at least a decade older, likely more.  He needs to look into sunscreen & laying off the hootch.

Joao's behavior at dinner was appalling.  And by behavior, I mean the way he held his fork with his fist and shoveled the food in his mouth.  He's not arthritic, lest he could not do his job as he does & we'd have heard about it by now.  He's on a luxury yacht and around people who know how to hold utensils properly, so he could pick up a damn clue. He is not in a stage production of Oliver!.   He has no excuse.

There seems to be some production shenanigans going on in the galley.  If Anastasia is correct, and one of the burners is on the fritz, why didn't anyone call in a repair person while the crew was on their day off?  Surely the South of France has stove repair shops that can go out to yachts in port.  And why aren't there cloches?  Hell, the one crazy momma Debbie on 90 Day Fiance had them in her dumpy house.

I hope it is a big ole fake out that Colin leaves next week; he's the one person I actually like on the show.  

[Shellbell59]

9 hours ago, snarts said:

If Joao didn't have a history of degrading/slut shaming women who aren't interested in him, I might cut him some slack. Why does he constantly single out Aesha when Jack & Trevor are just if not even more crass and loud? Hmmm, you might be a misogynist if....

My thoughts are...

This isn’t okay...but Perhaps he’s taking it out on Aesha...because he has to work directly with 2 guys...and especially depends on Travis being his supposed top level deckhand. The disrespect Travis has shown to Jaou and even Cap Sandy...I could see him effing something up....just to do it.  Although after last week incredibly difficult docking.. I sense a bit more respect happening with Travis vs the authority positions.

( now… If Travis could just respect himself more).

Also...he may feel Aesha’s Behavior is egging on Jack and Travis’ belligerence.

Edited August 13, 2019 by Shellbell59

[dsteele]

9 hours ago, hoosiermommy said:

Aesha has said, in so many words, that she is vulgar. She acts vulgar. She doesn’t get to get upset when someone finds her behavior vulgar instead of precious.

Amen. Stroking your va-jayjay literally in front of everyone, then rubbing Travis' man meat through his Speedo is one thing. But then to act offended by crude words is hypocrisy defined.

[ihartcoffee]

The chef is getting annoying,  you serve burgers and fries together.  Not 20 min apart. 

[spunky]

8 hours ago, biakbiak said:

Hannah and Travis were also in the van when she talked about it so it’s also possible that someone told him to tell him to lay off the comments like comparing her to a prostitute and policing her behavior on the dance floor. 

Hannah possibly. Travis said himself, that Joao doesn’t speak to him unless it’s about work.

[spunky]

7 hours ago, Kdawg82 said:

I think what Joao should have (and possibly wanted to) say to Aesha is "I like you. I think you're a kind /beautiful person with a lot of other positive qualities. Please hold yourself to the highest standard as those around you who know you  better also do." By her acting out, it elicits negative attention when she deserves positive attention. And Jack, as he claims to care for her, isn't raising her UP when he eggs on trashy behavior. I can include Trav in that, too. Feels like Joao may have huge issues with women drinking alcohol. Someone should dig into *his* past. 

It's looking like Colin may be wanting to leave. That sucks but when personalities don't mesh, it takes a toll on your ability to work effectively. I've been there before and it's not fun.

I see Hannah's point about Travis having a drinking problem and being a pretty nice guy aside from that. She cares but *he* has to be the one to care. Looks like Hannah and Joao are getting a redemption edit this season. The stable /sober ones, finally! 

Anastasia is an arrogant bi**h. Nothing sweet there. 

I think that’s exactly what he was trying to say but couldn’t find the right words. As far as telling her she reminds him of his mother, because she’s using always being happy as a cover for her pain. I’ve always believed that something more happened the night of that robbery, he keeps bringing it up but never goes into detail. His problem isn’t with her or any other woman drinking alcohol, his problem is her vulgarity being on full display all of the time.

[terrymct]

10 hours ago, PaperTree said:

Ana needs to cover the food or get something like pizza bags to keep it warm.  Maybe a better plating system to move it out faster.  The crew will need trays to handle oven hot plates.  Not sure if that's a solution.  They could use a microwave behind the bar.  Why did the fries take so long?

She doesn't need covers.  She needs to learn to time things better.  This is where her lack of professional experience is showing.  Anastasia isn't multitasking well.   She should have dropped the fries toward the end of the time the burgers needed for cooking.  The rice should have stayed in the pot until she was ready to plate.  She's just a bit unorganized.

Boy, a lot of malfunctions are coming to the surface, aren't they?  People posting before me have covered Travis fairly well.  Aesha and Jack are immature and trashy.  Jwow shouldn't have called her out the way he did, but my bigger issue is why he didn't call Jack out, too.

Every season Hannah starts this same crud.  She needs one, preferably more, of the guys (specifically not calling them men, most seem to be emotionally stunted) to be lusting after her or at least have puppy dog crushes.   She thought she had that with Travis, a worshipper at her feet but, yeah, he turned out not to be up to her standards.  So....time to slide on over to Jwow who has been behaving better than is his usual.   I thought Hannah's comment was funny that Jack and Aesha should have behaved better because there are millionaires walking around that hotel day or night.  It showed her social climber aspirations and fondness of class distinctions.  Jack and Aesha's problems isn't that millionaires might see them, it's that they're acting like half witted teenagers in heat.   It doesn't matter how wealthy the people who see them are.   Hannah made a mistake when Jwow asked if  he should do something about the drunken mess at the bar on the boat.   She's now fully complicit in their inappropriate workplace behavior.

[Special K]

I know this is the least of the bad behavior on display, but I find it appalling how those two drunkards were freely spilling booze and making an unholy mess all over the yacht's bar.  It's your friends (or, as Travis says "family") who will have to clean it up, idiots, and by tomorrow, too.

[SunnyBeBe]

6 hours ago, scrb said:

Seems like there's a momentum building up about Ana's food being not good enough.

The first two charters, when Mila was fired and then the next one when she was made chef were fine.

Now Damon and then this crew has all kinds of comments.  As much as they complained about the food, Damon's crew left a big tip.

So maybe there were complaints in the earlier charters and they just didn't air them in the episodes?

Or is this another producer manipulation, prodding the guests to make complaints and ask for their food to be done again?

And then you have Sandy hovering over each meal, asking them if they have anything to say.

It's their prerogative to try to spice up the show, if they think it will attract more viewers that way.  

But looks like Anastasia gets frazzled the next episode, on the verge of tears.  Either she's playing a great role or they're fucking with her and they've broken her confidence.

I don't know about some of the issues between the crew, but, with the food thing.....omg...so producer driven. I suspect the guests and cast of the show get the memo about the food will be a problem this time and this time someone will say this.....we'll film it one time and if we need more, we'll go back and get some more on that issue.  Recall how some old issues were that the chef couldn't seem to steer clear of food that the guests had allergies to.  It's always something.  This whole thing with having to replace the original chef was staged, imo and the theme continues.  I'm pretty much done with it. 

[PaperTree]

7 hours ago, Barbara Please said:

Looks like Colin is going to quit. 

I'm hoping it's yet another deceptive preview.

5 hours ago, Lizzing said:

There seems to be some production shenanigans going on in the galley.  If Anastasia is correct, and one of the burners is on the fritz, why didn't anyone call in a repair person while the crew was on their day off?  Surely the South of France has stove repair shops that can go out to yachts in port.  And why aren't there cloches?  

I hope it is a big ole fake out that Colin leaves next week; he's the one person I actually like on the show.  

Maybe the fryer wasn't working right either??

This service temperature problem should be easy to fix.

Edited August 13, 2019 by PaperTree

[Special K]

9 minutes ago, SunnyBeBe said:

 It's always something.  This whole thing with having to replace the original chef was staged, imo and the theme continues.  I'm pretty much done with it. 

It does seem a little phony that two charters have the exact same complaint (temperature). Also, if I was eating outside on a windy sea, I wouldn't expect the food to stay hot for very long, right? Seems producer-driven to me.

Which is not to say that there aren't other legit complaints (portion size, hair, timing of service).

[Yours Truly]

5 hours ago, biakbiak said:

Wait Travis is only 26!!!!! I must have missed this information in the past because he looks like shit!

Why aren’t they using cloches? I swear they have used them in other seasons and it’s been windy and colder because it’s getting later in October.

Also, the plates can’t be too warm because otherwise it’s going to be a problem for the stews to carry them.

So even though June gets called out by Sandy at the tip meeting she doesn’t even do the basic thing of turning on her radio? And than just tells Hannah “oh well I was on break!!!!” She is the worst.

No she didn't say that. First she said "oh shit" then explained she was on break which means she forgot to turn it back on. It really does seem like her biggest problem is being a bit of a ditz. Even Hannah said on watch what happens live, when a caller asked her if she think June is deliberately isn't answering, that she's not sure if it's just not registering to June.  All the clips they showed on WWHL with June not answering the radio was of her working. She was either, ironing, or cleaning something so at least it's not like she's hiding out somewhere, ignoring her radio cause she's trying to skip out on work.  Just one scene was when June overslept and was in bed but the others showed her working.  

Seems to me that June is a bit slow and as frustrating as that is, and an understandable trigger for the others it surely isn't a reason to treat her rudely. Body language speaks volumes and June has already made some comments about feeling like they think she's stupid. I hate to say it but I'm pretty sure she's not wrong in the vibe she's getting from them cause, well, her behavior and mistakes are doing her no favors. I just hate seeing people allow someone else's non deliberate shortcomings be an excuse to be less then kind. And yes saying all the "right" things and refraining from berating someone in public doesn't mean that cold body language, short conversations and barely veiled annoyance isn't conveyed through every fake smile and glassy stare. June is sensitive to the "stupid" label cause I'm sure she's gotten it before so even though she jumps the gun a bit when thinking that's what Hannah is ultimately conveying to her cause in truth we have only seen Hannah correct her (some would say "nicely") but WE ALL KNOW she's not wrong cause we SEE that Hannah thinks she's incompetent in scenes when June isn't around or in her TH's 

I would be more offended at Jack's DELIBERATE declaration of wanting to do as little as possible PURPOSELY. He honest to goodness announced that he plans to screw the team by not pulling his own weight. How is it that Jack can still maneuver through the crew and have pleasant interactions but June is such a burden?