S09.E04: Bahama Drama

[BodhiGurl]

18 minutes ago, langford peel said:

“There is no benefit to our foundation with any attention being brought to this matter. Just the mere fact that one of our dogs ended up in a shelter is a potential catastrophe, especially since we are a non-profit 501c3 that needs donations.” Lisa Vanderpump’s Bravo blog

This is why the whole theory that Lisa orchestrated this fracas seems stupid. It is an admission against interest. Why would Lisa want to publisze that she violated her own rules to get a friend of hers a dog that ended up in a kill shelter? I can understand how the Dr John guy could want some airtime and want to attack Dorito. He must hate her as do most people when meet her. I just don’t think Lisa wants this app and be get story arch for the rest of the season. It just doesn’t fly.

Which begs the question - why didn't LVP break the fourth wall during the "do you know who this is" moment at VPDs and insist upon filming stop and that they stop talking about it on camera. 

[gingerella]

14 hours ago, smores said:

And I believe she also changed who was bitten as well.  That changes from her daughter to PK to both kids, depending on the wind. 

With those two idjits - PK and Dorito - and how they interact with their kids, I'm fairly certain that the kids lunged at, or were interacting inappropriately with both 'problem' dogs and the poor dogs nipped or bit them in self defense. Jagger is a batshit crazy kid and who knows if the little girl has been taught how to pet nicely when dealing with a dog...These people...they shouldn't be allowed to procreate, and they sure as shit shouldn't be allowed to have pets. Unless it's a tarantula encased in lucite or something like that.

[Natalie68]

22 hours ago, CrinkleCutCat said:

Thanks for posting.... Bam! I believe her, for what it’s worth.

I totally believe her.  She made a really good point that no one has asked about Lucy.  She is the one that deserves concern.  I rescued a cat and was his 3rd home.  Took a long time for that little fella to trust us but once he did he was the most loving cat ever (RIP Napoleon). 

Animals are not baubles or a fancy purse.  They are loving, sentient creatures that deserve as much respect as humans and nothing will get me worked up like animal/elder/child abuse.  Fuck Dorit and PeeK with a giant barbed instrument covered in some horrible bacteria like the flesh eating sort.  Kyle/Teddy/Rinna can go fuck themselves as well.  Camille and Denise have stayed out of the fray except to sound somewhat reasonable and not sure about Erika yet.  I have a strong feeling or two

[langford peel]

13 minutes ago, BodhiGurl said:

Which begs the question - why didn't LVP break the fourth wall during the "do you know who this is" moment at VPDs and insist upon filming stop and that they stop talking about it on camera. 

I think she has been sad and distracted and she wasn’t ready to blow up the RHOBH. Yet.

However after seeing how the bitches have decided to rally around a two bit grifter and the entitled spawn of a third rate rocker she doesn’t give a shit anymore.

Read her blog. It’s on and she is not taking any prisoners.

[Natalie68]

11 hours ago, Mrs. Fred Garvin said:

deleted due to redundancy (hangs head in newbie shame)

Welcome!

[langford peel]

Is that Fred Garvin Male Prostitute?

You know he was Jax Taylor’s father?

Sorry for your loss.

[Chit Chat]

9 hours ago, blixie said:

What the hell is the matter with you Kyle. Having said that she had on some AMAZING earrings when she was trying talk about Dorit and the dog on the veranda with Lisa. 

Speaking of earrings, I noticed that Kyle tried on some earrings (pierced) while in that clothing store.  Yuk!  That's something I won't do.  I'll hold them up next to my ear to see how they look, then if I buy a pair, I alcohol them off once I get home because of people like Kyle.   FWIW, I work in a dental office and have sat through infection control seminars for many years.  I don't want another person's possible ear tissue residue on my new pair of earrings, especially if there's dried blood on them (which is always a possibility!)  

[Natalie68]

Just now, ChitChat said:

Speaking of earrings, I noticed that Kyle tried on some earrings (pierced) while in that clothing store.  Yuk!  That's something I won't do.  I'll hold them up next to my ear to see how they look, then if I buy a pair, I alcohol them off once I get home because of people like Kyle.   FWIW, I work in a dental office and have sat through infection control seminars for many years.  I don't want another person's possible ear tissue residue on my new pair of earrings, especially if there's dried blood on them (which is always a possibility!)  

That freaked me out as well! Keep your ear jazz to yourself.  Classless asshole.  Raised in a fucking barn

[walnutqueen]

3 minutes ago, Natalie68 said:

That freaked me out as well! Keep your ear jazz to yourself.  Classless asshole.  Raised in a fucking barn

Maybe that's why barns give her anaphylactic shock panic attacks ...

[Chellichik]

I know I am very late in asking this as it has been discussed somewhere that I haven't seen, but can someone tell me if the dog was a puppy when Dorit had it?  Were the bites on the kids just the usual puppy bites or was this an adult dog with a bitting issue?  The picture of PK's face looks like a puppy bite.

[langford peel]

Actually it was one of PK’s creditors who bit him.

They just reused the photo.

[yourmomiseasy]

On 3/6/2019 at 6:45 AM, TattleTeeny said:

Yes, you can manipulate all of this stuff but from an image/design standpoint, like with Illustrator or Photoshop, whatever. I don't think these chicks are doing any of that, haha! 

That's what assistants are for.

On 3/6/2019 at 8:43 AM, walnutqueen said:

90 tweets in one hour?  The "lady" doth protest too much, methinks.

I feel like that's Below Deck Caroline levels of tweeting

On 3/6/2019 at 10:26 AM, Jennifersdc said:

I’m not convinced Lucy aka LLAJ (who gave her that ridiculous name - it’s more like the name you’d give a thoroughbred racehorse cause all the good ones have already been taken) “bit” anybody. Apparently she was a fairly young puppy - I’m guessing she was teething at most. Get the puppy a Nylabone or one of those you put in the freezer (freezer ones worked better for mine). I’m guilty of letting my dogs I got when they were young puppies, sometimes teeth on me (sharp puppy teeth do hurt). But none of them ever actually bit or hurt anybody (and my dogs are/were much bigger than LLAJ). They’re puppies - generally they love everybody and anything. Even the three(?) yr-old family member who probably wanted to love her a little too hard at times. It’s called supervision.

If LLAJ actually “bit” PK on the nose - I’d like to nominate her for a Bronze Star. 

My dog did not love everybody and everything when she was a puppy.  She was a little asshole.  She has fear aggression and had an aversion to being picked up.  She'd snarl and snap and flail around like a feral little monster.  I had to have trainers come to our house when she was only ~10 weeks old because she was too little to go to classes.  It took a while to desensitize her to being picked up.  Unfortunately she's super cute and people won't believe she's such a dick. When she was about 3 months old my sister picked her up.  I told her to put my dog down or she was going to get bit. She put her face up right in my dog's and said "you're not going to bite me," in a baby voice and then was surprised when my dog snapped at her and scraped her cheek.  If Lucy was like this, I have no doubt there would be videos out there of her being a big feral dick.  But I also have no doubt that if PK's face was snapped at it is because he did something stupid like my sister and put his giant mug in the dog's face when she was clearly saying she was unhappy/uncomfortable.  

On 3/6/2019 at 11:39 AM, esco1822 said:

I assumed she was saying that she didn't care if they told anyone about it in that moment (when they found out Lucy was in a shelter), her focus was making sure the dog was safe. That's very different from "admitting" that she told John Blizzard to tell Teddi or that she orchestrated the story being put on camera. That to me was  "I don't give a shit what you do, just get the dog back ASAP." 

That's what it seemed like to me too.

On 3/6/2019 at 4:41 PM, snarts said:

Viewers?  I just see the same 5 or so people posting the same stuff over & over again, while the vast majority are learning to use the ignore feature.

Exactly. Not to mention the bottoms were so ill-fitting half her hooha was exposed. 

Half a labia hanging out seems to be a Beverly Beach hallmark.

2 hours ago, BodhiGurl said:

I honestly had no clue and I like to think I'm fairly tech savvy - ha ha ha.... I have a hard time believing Teddi would delete portions, but you never know. I guess time will tell. I think it's really weird that you can delete someone elses text messages to you. I wonder why that's a feature? I get why you could maybe delete your own - but then there should be a "deleted" indication IMO... Hey - RHOBH helped me learn something new! LOL 😉

If you are too stupid to have a bone phone and you don't want your wife to see texts from your girlfriend you'd want to delete them and for there to be no indication.

[smores]

11 hours ago, Rosiejuliemom said:

Well, shit.

Am I still trustworthy if I give my avocado to someone else if at all possible?

I don't care for avocado either, but I have a friend who loves it.  So I ask for it on the side and she eats it, then everyone is happy.

5 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

No one photoshopped anything nothing got deleted from that text thread Teddi is to confident in the wanting to release all the messages at one time but can’t due to her contract and spoiling the show for her to have done any of that. So I’m going with either Lisa knew (I think she Did) or John lied and is trying to cover his ass honestly why doesn’t Jon since he’s not on the show and isn’t under a contract that would bar him from doing so release the messages? I mean he still must have them if he had them long enough to print out for kin. Release them ALL and prove she was altering text and prove Teddi a liar 

I guess I'm just unclear on how anyone can definitely say that no one photoshopped or deleted anything from the text thread that Teddi showed.  Has anyone seen the info directly from the phones of both people and compared them?  Thus far all we've seen are what Teddi has shown and then what John has shown and they haven't been the same exact things, so it's not like we can say oh, well, why doesn't this one have that line in it?  And, more to the point, the proof that Teddi was showing around at the table to everyone was this tiny little screenshot of just 2 lines cut out of the entire conversation.  You could cut out a conversation I'm having with my sibling and have it read:

Them: What did you think of that?

Me: She's such a bitch, I hate her. 

Then you could show it to my mother and tell her that it was me talking about an email that she had sent to us about something and it could very well appear to be that way.  But, if I pulled out my phone and showed the whole conversation, maybe I'm just talking about RuPaul's Drag Race.  Context really matters and Teddi is pretty much the only one not giving any, but insisting she is showing proof.

5 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Who orchestrated it? The only one gettin anything out of this is Lisa and the Johns IF they get a spin off. So that kinda throws a wrench into it was just the girls ganging up and it’s their fault and shifts it to why would Lisa use her “friends” to launch a new show and shit on them in the process. It proves Lisa would sacrifice friendships in order to further her own career.  

I haven't seen any info about a spinoff come from anywhere other than speculation here, but I may very well be wrong on that.  That said, Lisa masterminding this who thing basically just makes her own organization look bad.  Sure, it casts Dorit in a bad light, because she just dumped a dog somewhere without making sure it was cared for, but ultimately it casts doubt on VDPDs and their processes.  So I'm not really sure how this gets them publicity for the show. And it's not like LVP wouldn't have had a platform to launch a spinoff anyway, even without having this mess.  She could easily just ramp up her time spent at VDPD on the show, volunteering, doing events, interacting with people there and highlight the place rather than having it be the topic of this bullshit.  It's not like she isn't on 2 shows already.  

2 hours ago, BodhiGurl said:

I honestly had no clue and I like to think I'm fairly tech savvy - ha ha ha.... I have a hard time believing Teddi would delete portions, but you never know. I guess time will tell. I think it's really weird that you can delete someone elses text messages to you. I wonder why that's a feature? I get why you could maybe delete your own - but then there should be a "deleted" indication IMO... Hey - RHOBH helped me learn something new! LOL 😉

As I mentioned above, Teddi showed very, very selective portions of her messages.  So maybe she didn't delete things, but she certainly didn't let the girls see the part where she told them to have the dog there and she'd identify it.  

Also, I think it's entirely possible that John mentioned "if they approve it" he's talking about the film crew.  Both LVP and John have mentioned that this thing happened on a Sunday (Dorit dumping the dog), and they were planning to film, pretty last minute, at the center on like a Weds (I'm too lazy to look up the dates right now), so they were going back and forth right up until the day before with the approvals and paperwork for filming.  I can see John referencing the approval process for the filming, as in they weren't sure if they were going to film yet or not, and if they did get approval to film, then, this is what they'd do.

34 minutes ago, Chellichik said:

I know I am very late in asking this as it has been discussed somewhere that I haven't seen, but can someone tell me if the dog was a puppy when Dorit had it?  Were the bites on the kids just the usual puppy bites or was this an adult dog with a bitting issue?  The picture of PK's face looks like a puppy bite.

John said that Dorit got the dog at 8 weeks and then they took the dog back for spaying.  One of the center people kept the dog during the recovery period, so Dorit wouldn't be inconvenienced and didn't have to worry about the care of the dog during that time.  So, yes, it was a puppy.  The only pictures of a bite that were shown are the one of PK, but that is also supposedly from Dog #1, Madison, who was returned to VDPD.

[Giselle]

2 hours ago, LibertarianSlut said:

I clicked on the link to LVP's blog and was unfortunate enough to read this:

It was relentless, and I was in the middle with two other friends on a Sunday night as we tried to placate John without diminishing his passionate stance on one of his beloved puppies being deserted.

Girl, what the fuck you tryna say now?  How about dropping the SAT words (she also used 'tacit' incorrectly), dropping the run-on sentences, and just speaking in plain words?  

This is a woman with who self-professedly has "400 employees," but I would say that 3/4s of us on the board write better than this.

I also love the ageism in harping on the fact that "John Blizzard" is 23 years old, and it is therefore self-evident that nothing he has to say has any credibility.  I'm just gonna let the stupidity of that one sit alone.  At what age does one become inherently believable?  Lisa, didn't you marry Ken at 21...? 

She also keeps saying she's not responsible for the shooting schedule.

We know that Idiot. You are responsible for not breaking the 4th wall to stop filming and get the dog out of there if killing the story was your true intent.

Talking about protesting to much.

Don't.......stop........don't.......stop.......don't stop, don't stop, don't stop, don't stop talking about the dog.

Was/Is she using all of them to get a new show on the air? If so Lisa Rinna wants to be paid. See below.

Wonder how the ladies like being called "see you next Tuesday's" at the end of her blog.

She also might want to keep that wrinkled chest covered it doesn't match the fake polished face. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/lisa-rinna-slams-lisa-vanderpump-over-vanderpump-dogs-spinoff/amp/

[Set Them Free]

I won't pretend to know what actually happened with puppygate or puppygate exposed.  

But what I saw on my television was someone named John telling the whole audience that Dorit let a VPR dog end up in a shelter.  Then the next day, LVP invites Dorit and PK to lunch to specifically tell them that "People are talking about it" and then emphasizing Teddi.  At that point, Dorit already knew that Teddi knew, so to highlight Teddi's knowlegde again when it was John that did all the talking and Kyle was also there made no sense (especially if LVP had no knowledge of John and Teddi coordinating on Lucy's television debut).  I don't know how to interpret this as anything other than LVP trying to stir shit between Teddi and Dorit.  

But let's face it.  Stirring shit is part of the job description on these Housewives shows.   And the content of the shit itself is usually far less important than the style and technique employed in the stirring.  Kyle and LVP try to be stealth shit stirrers and keep getting caught.  Rinna is an obvious and proud shit stirrer who takes enjoyment in her work.  Erika cannonballs right into it.  Teddi's skills are clearly still junior varsity, and she needs to learn there is no crying in baseball.  And at the moment, Dorit appears to just be a slotted wooden spoon everyone else is using.   

I like what Camille said in the end.  Lisa will never apologize for whatever part she played.  But then again none of them do very much apologizing anymore.  I remember Teddi apologizing to Dorit for telling Rinna that Dorit called Rinna crazy, and it didn't even help.  So maybe everyone just needs to move on, and have as much fun as possible until the next battle.

[BodhiGurl]

45 minutes ago, yourmomiseasy said:

f you are too stupid to have a bone phone and you don't want your wife to see texts from your girlfriend you'd want to delete them and for there to be no indication.

Yeah - I get how to delete an entire text message thread, I just didn't realize you could delete individual messages within the thread, let alone delete messages from someone else. I still don't think Teddi deleted anything. I've never had a reason to delete someone elses messages within a thread so thus why I didn't know it could be done.

[Reality police]

3 hours ago, Juneau Gal said:

This kind of behavior that is playing out on this show is maddening to me to the point of making me anxious. I hate it; it's not normal adult behavior. All it would take to end it NOW and let us get back to house, swan, and vacation porn is for someone, anyone to stand up and say:

Lisa, you are pissed as hell at Dorit for what she did with the puppy. Admit it. Admit also that you never liked Dorit. No one will blame you for either of these admissions.

Dorit, what you did with the puppy was WRONG. Admit it. No ifs, ands, or buts. You were wrong.

Lisa Rinna, this is not a freaking soap opera and you are not acting out your greatest role yet. Be a decent human. Admit your complicity in all of this.

Erika, you set women back 100 years with your over-faux-sexualized blow up doll "empowerment". Erika Jayne has yet to net you one red cent and you have bankrupted your husband to fulfill your famewhoredom. You ain't all that, girl. And you give the direct opposite of zero fucks; you care and you care deeply about how you are received. Admit it.

Kyle, you live a life most people would envy. A beautiful home, loving husband, well adjusted children. Why can't this be enough for you? You have farmed from you and your sisters' collective experiences to launch one failed TV show after the other, AFTER your sisters have repeatedly asked you not to. Quit with the quivering lip "I love my family, but I have a right to tell my story" bs. We all see that your constant striving to be the star now that you never were as a kid, tops everything else in your life. Admit it.

Denise and Camille: You both are doing great so far this season. Keep being the truth tellers. Don't let us down.

Teddie, you are either as dumb as a box of rocks or thirsty beyond belief to have a storyline. Which is it? Neither are good looks, Miss Accountability. 

I think I could gather enough donations to get you a plane ticket to wherever these girls are filming if you would promise to walk in and everything you wrote.

Damn, girl. Yes!

[SheTalksShit]

K, so this wk we find out there WAS indeed a plan that TEDDY was in on. So she basically did the same thing she’s accusing Lisa of doing - she conspired to make Dorit look bad by having John Sessa come on camera and talk about the dog situation, then acts shocked and oblivious when it all goes down. 

[MerisWetBar]

2 hours ago, langford peel said:

I think she has been sad and distracted and she wasn’t ready to blow up the RHOBH. Yet.

However after seeing how the bitches have decided to rally around a two bit grifter and the entitled spawn of a third rate rocker she doesn’t give a shit anymore.

Read her blog. It’s on and she is not taking any prisoners.

100% agree with the bold. In. fact I have agreed with every single post you have made @langford peel.

I am also ride or die for LVP, always have been. Is she an innocent angel? Hell nah and that's one of the things I love about her. 

[RHJunkie]

6 hours ago, yourmomiseasy said:

Could Rinna and Erika be any more obvious?

Was I supposed to read that in Chandler Bing's voice from Friends? Because I totally did, lol.

[langford peel]

1 hour ago, Giselle said:

Was/Is she using all of them to get a new show on the air? If so Lisa Rinna wants to be paid. See below.

Wonder how the ladies like being called "see you next Tuesday's" at the end of her blog.

She also might want to keep that wrinkled chest covered it doesn't match the fake polished face. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/lisa-rinna-slams-lisa-vanderpump-over-vanderpump-dogs-spinoff/amp/

Lisa Rinna is out of her mind. Is she going to share out the profits from her QVC line that she promotes on the show? Now we know what is in her Depends.

A big set of balls.

I bet Lisa doesn’t care what these C you next Tuesday think. She is ready to blow it up.

If the Depends fit........

[dosodog]

Maybe she thinks she can use it as leverage.

The Hadidnts are putting together a sizzle reel and shopping for a network to showcase their family.

 

Edited March 8, 2019 by dosodog

[breezy424]

I think the first dog was either one or two years old and I think it was a terrier type.  And that dog was the one who 'took a chunk out of PK's face'.  Yeah, sure.  We saw the picture Dorit.  Lucy was the second and I think she was pretty young.   What kind of rescue would let a family with children under four with no experience with having a dog allow them to adopt a young dog period?  An older dog who has been around kids?  Maybe.  The rescue we dealt with always list the age of children allowed.  I've never seen any dog listed for ages under four. 

In any case, how many people out there want to see a series about the 'Johns' (who I find quite boring) and the rescue?  Or Raquel who volunteers there (see Vanderpump Rules).  Yeah, I enjoy My Cat From Hell and the Puppy Bowl but these guy's personalities?  It's wonderful to see dogs get their forever homes but there's just not a lot of substance there.

But I'm sure LVP is going to try for Vanderpump Las Vegas Rules.

[SallySarue]

6 hours ago, janie2002 said:

I fawking hate Rinna, she is gross, snotty and a horrible Hollywood snake. She is what I picture as an actress that would do anything for fame. 

She even admitted it last year on WWHL when she said she would never turn down any job whatsoever, as long as she's getting paid, hence the Depends job.  #famewhore #$$whore

[Giselle]

30 minutes ago, SallySarue said:

She even admitted it last year on WWHL when she said she would never turn down any job whatsoever, as long as she's getting paid, hence the Depends job.  #famewhore #$$whore

At least Rinna shows up for work.

[smores]

2 hours ago, SheTalksShit said:

K, so this wk we find out there WAS indeed a plan that TEDDY was in on. So she basically did the same thing she’s accusing Lisa of doing - she conspired to make Dorit look bad by having John Sessa come on camera and talk about the dog situation, then acts shocked and oblivious when it all goes down. 

Right? So far all of the definitive "proof" Teddi has shown has only shown that Teddi made plans to out Dorit's dog transgressions.  She has yet to show anything that shows that LVP or Ken was involved in the planning of this event.  And, even if she DID have that evidence, exactly how does that make her the righteous party in this case?  Because, bear with me here, LVP has a dog rescue, she helped Dorit get a dog.  Dog bites Pk/her daughter/the mailman/whoever, so they return the dog.  Fair enough, that particular dog may not have been the best fit and maybe they didn't know until after the fact.  Maybe Dorit and PK are crapass animal owners and don't bother with any training and don't supervise their kids with the dog.  Whichever it is, fine, dog comes back.  They want to have a dog, though, so VDPDs does everything in their power to set up an ideal situation for Dorit to have a dog and succeed in owning a dog.  They make sure it's a dog that doesn't have any background issues, they handle the spaying, they make sure they bring in a trainer.  And then the dog is a problem, the SAME problem as the previous one, and no one knows this until after the dog "found a new home"  The new owner, who was lovely, and Dorit has told about 47 stories about, dumps the dog at a shelter, and LVP gets, rightfully so, mad about it.  And, ok, let's pretend that LVP decides she's going to out all of this to the world.  

My first question is, who would really blame LVP for it? I mean couldn't she just out it and say this was the deal? Second, she could have had it outed by someone that wasn't a cast mate if she wanted that to happen, but not be the one who said it.  And, again, who would blame LVP? Dorit's the one who sucks at owning pets.  But, at the end of the day, if we believe that LVP is a puppet master and was coming for Dorit, and we are supposed to know that this is Lisa's MO, because she's done it for years and years and years, then why do we absolve Teddi for her part in it?  Why isn't everyone looking at Teddi and saying "And you! How could YOU do this to Dorit? You know how LVP is, you know she uses people to out things! So when her people approached you, how could you go along with it? Why would you do that to Dorit?"  Isn't it actually more wrong to be the person that doesn't have a stake in the entire fight but just goes along and outs shit? If she truly believes that's what happened and that's what she was doing, then why would she do it? It was solely to "get" Dorit.  At least LVP was actually slighted by her.  Teddi was basically across the street sipping coffee while Dorit stole LVP's purse and Teddi decides she'll run Dorit over with her car to avenge LVP, but somehow it's not Teddi's fault that Dorit was run over? 

[langford peel]

57 minutes ago, Giselle said:

At least Rinna shows up for work.

That’s true.

Nobody cares.

Extras will always show up for a days pay.

[SheTalksShit]

1 hour ago, smores said:

Right? So far all of the definitive "proof" Teddi has shown has only shown that Teddi made plans to out Dorit's dog transgressions.  She has yet to show anything that shows that LVP or Ken was involved in the planning of this event.  And, even if she DID have that evidence, exactly how does that make her the righteous party in this case?  Because, bear with me here, LVP has a dog rescue, she helped Dorit get a dog.  Dog bites Pk/her daughter/the mailman/whoever, so they return the dog.  Fair enough, that particular dog may not have been the best fit and maybe they didn't know until after the fact.  Maybe Dorit and PK are crapass animal owners and don't bother with any training and don't supervise their kids with the dog.  Whichever it is, fine, dog comes back.  They want to have a dog, though, so VDPDs does everything in their power to set up an ideal situation for Dorit to have a dog and succeed in owning a dog.  They make sure it's a dog that doesn't have any background issues, they handle the spaying, they make sure they bring in a trainer.  And then the dog is a problem, the SAME problem as the previous one, and no one knows this until after the dog "found a new home"  The new owner, who was lovely, and Dorit has told about 47 stories about, dumps the dog at a shelter, and LVP gets, rightfully so, mad about it.  And, ok, let's pretend that LVP decides she's going to out all of this to the world.  

My first question is, who would really blame LVP for it? I mean couldn't she just out it and say this was the deal? Second, she could have had it outed by someone that wasn't a cast mate if she wanted that to happen, but not be the one who said it.  And, again, who would blame LVP? Dorit's the one who sucks at owning pets.  But, at the end of the day, if we believe that LVP is a puppet master and was coming for Dorit, and we are supposed to know that this is Lisa's MO, because she's done it for years and years and years, then why do we absolve Teddi for her part in it?  Why isn't everyone looking at Teddi and saying "And you! How could YOU do this to Dorit? You know how LVP is, you know she uses people to out things! So when her people approached you, how could you go along with it? Why would you do that to Dorit?"  Isn't it actually more wrong to be the person that doesn't have a stake in the entire fight but just goes along and outs shit? If she truly believes that's what happened and that's what she was doing, then why would she do it? It was solely to "get" Dorit.  At least LVP was actually slighted by her.  Teddi was basically across the street sipping coffee while Dorit stole LVP's purse and Teddi decides she'll run Dorit over with her car to avenge LVP, but somehow it's not Teddi's fault that Dorit was run over? 

Yup. I really don’t think LVP was in on this, tho. Like I don’t think she wanted it out there, bc Ken didn’t, as he and PK are close friends. So LVP would prefer to honor her husband’s wishes in the name of his friendship w/PK. I really think this was just a case of John Sessa being pissed off and doing what he wanted to do and Lisa agreed with him, but would have preferred he kept quiet about it because that’s what her husband wanted out of loyalty to PK. 

LVP has her flaws, for sure, but I think they’ve got her wrong here. 

I’m most surprised that Kyle, of all ppl, read her so wrong here. Say what you will about Kyle, but she’s usually pretty perceptive about people’s intentions and capabilities and she’s not usually the type to jump to conclusions, she doesn’t usually view things in black and white. But reading her latest blog, she has LVP all wrong this time. She seems to have forgotten that John Sessa and LVP are 2 different people. 

[renatae]

On 3/6/2019 at 9:28 PM, QQQQ said:

Right, so not all Midwesterners are likeable/relatable. 😉

Nah, just most of us. 😉

Meanwhile, can we bury the fact that Vicki is also from Illinois?

Edited March 8, 2019 by renatae

[smores]

54 minutes ago, SheTalksShit said:

I’m most surprised that Kyle, of all ppl, read her so wrong here. Say what you will about Kyle, but she’s usually pretty perceptive about people’s intentions and capabilities and she’s not usually the type to jump to conclusions, she doesn’t usually view things in black and white. But reading her latest blog, she has LVP all wrong this time. She seems to have forgotten that John Sessa and LVP are 2 different people. 

I don't think Kyle is reading it "wrong" I think Kyle's reading it opportunistically.  Kyle has been beating the "Lisa manipulates people" drum side by side with the "Lisa doesn't have my back" drum for years.  I would say she's like a 10 speed bike, but I really don't know that she has that many speeds, even.  "I'm a mom" "I'm a wife" "Lisa manipulates people" "Lisa never has my back" "My sisters are mean to me but I'm the best family that ever familied and how can they do this" "I was a child star" "Paris Hilton is my niece" "Look at me, PLEASE!" So, I'm not really shocked that when the chance to try to rally people against LVP came up, Kyle jumped on it.  She just isn't bright enough to think about the fact that perhaps people would be outraged at Dorit not caring for the dog and the fact that LVP's brother just died and Kyle is out there waging yet another battle in the "You're a puppet master" game she plays each year.  Never mind not being able to see that the facts that she is presenting don't exonerate Teddi.

Also, Kyle's blog argument is weird.  She's basically saying, well, LVP put this story out there, so yeah, I talked about it.  It's her fault we know about it, and putting it on camera at all is wrong.  Ok, but, let's apply this one to Kyle, then.  How about the time she outed her sister as an alcoholic? Then she proceeds to rip Rinna for years for even daring to mention her sister's name.  Rinna did say some inappropriate things, I won't ever argue that, but, if Kyle's argument is that it's A) wrong to even put it on camera, well, that's on Kyle.  And B) if it was brought up, we discuss it because we talk about what happens in our circle? Well, again, then it's fair for Rinna to talk about.  Another example, Kyle put out there that Kim's dog bit one of Kyle's kids.  Why did she do that to her own sister?  Seems like exactly the type of thing she'd want to keep quiet.  

[MrsWitter]

6 hours ago, langford peel said:

Lisa Rinna is out of her mind. Is she going to share out the profits from her QVC line that she promotes on the show? Now we know what is in her Depends.

A big set of balls.

I was going to go more obvious and just suggest her Depends are full of shit. Just like her. I’m not a lawyer, but, from what I understand of the Bravo contracts, I don’t know what legal basis she has for compensation if there is a spin-off. I’m guessing absolutely none and I have to believe she knows that.

[Rosebud1970]

20 hours ago, Rosiejuliemom said:

Well, shit.

Am I still trustworthy if I give my avocado to someone else if at all possible?

How about me?

I never eat avocado. I can't stand the stuff and will go out of my way not to eat it. Even have it removed from anything I order.

At least I won't say I'm allergic to it--I'm not--like some people who claim to have celiac disease and then proceed to devour the bread basket. Ahem.

[film noire]

6 hours ago, SallySarue said:

she would never turn down any job whatsoever, as long as she's getting paid, 

Rinna could easily get a job on LVP"s new show.

She's a howling bitch who eats shit and rage-bites -- perfect rescue material ; )

[DrSparkles]

13 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

It’s all about the spin off apparently.....she did do the same thing with Brandi .... she used the show to purposely put Brandi and whoever that waitress working for her  was together just to fight. And look poof Vanderpump spin-offs show gets free publicity during its first season to boost ratings  ....now puppygate and the Johns are suddenly maybe getting a spin-off after Lisa tells John to tell Teddi about dorit in hopes of you guessed it show drama at vanderpimp dogs. to purposely manufacture drama just to get interest in a spin-off is kinda fucked if it’s true I mean claiming these girls are your friends then throwing them under the bus to show bravo if there is enough interest to give you another show is low and adds a really fucked up layer to Lisa V that was hidden .... 

💯 

[MrsWitter]

33 minutes ago, Rosebud1970 said:

How about me?

I never eat avocado. I can't stand the stuff and will go out of my way not to eat it. Even have it removed from anything I order.

At least I won't say I'm allergic to it--I'm not--like some people who claim to have celiac disease and then proceed to devour the bread basket. Ahem.

I am happy to go to lunch/dinner with all of you avocado haters and I will eat all your poor rejected avocados. And I will also unapologetically devour the bread too. Despite my best attempts to overcome it, I am an olive hater, though, so I will happily trade olives for avocados (fat for fat) if that interests anyone! 

Edited March 8, 2019 by MrsWitter

[jaybird2]

11 minutes ago, MrsWitter said:

I am happy to go to lunch/dinner with all of you avocado haters and I will eat all your poor rejected avocados. And I will also unapologetically devour the bread too. Despite my best attempts to overcome it, I am an olive hater, though, so I will happily trade olives for avocados (fat for fat) if that interests anyone! 

I want it all!!! Avocado and olives!

[jaybird2]

I' m not watching this season.  Lisa is the only one I like and don't to see anymore of the Lisa pile one.  Therefor, I have to come here to see what's going on.   Sorry people I know i'm selfish and only think of myself and never take your feelings into consideration.  Ah, the perfect housewife.  Oh wait!  I'm not rich so i'll have to fake that part

[Higgins]

12 hours ago, BodhiGurl said:

I honestly had no clue and I like to think I'm fairly tech savvy - ha ha ha.... I have a hard time believing Teddi would delete portions, but you never know. I guess time will tell. I think it's really weird that you can delete someone elses text messages to you. I wonder why that's a feature? I get why you could maybe delete your own - but then there should be a "deleted" indication IMO... Hey - RHOBH helped me learn something new! LOL 😉

You can print out your text records from your mobile carrier with time stamps and numbers.

[Mrs. Fred Garvin]

12 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

Welcome!

Thanks, Natalie68!

12 hours ago, langford peel said:

Is that Fred Garvin Male Prostitute?

You know he was Jax Taylor’s father?

Sorry for your loss.

Sure is, Langford Peel. My Fred is very much alive & well - all trussed up and still gettin' it done! 

Edited March 8, 2019 by Mrs. Fred Garvin
spelling

[SweetieDarling]

1 hour ago, jaybird2 said:

I' m not watching this season.  Lisa is the only one I like and don't to see anymore of the Lisa pile one.  Therefor, I have to come here to see what's going on.   Sorry people I know i'm selfish and only think of myself and never take your feelings into consideration.  Ah, the perfect housewife.  Oh wait!  I'm not rich so i'll have to fake that part

But that does make you the perfect housewife, as long as you are willing to spend beyond your means, neglect to pay your bills, and ultimately, file bankruptcy, prison term optional. Can  you do gaudy?

[Mr. Miner]

17 hours ago, gritz said:

How many fucks does Tom give? None, not one, zero, zero, zero, done.

Erika: Love you babe, I'll be home tomorrow.

Tom: Got it!

lol!

[SweetieDarling]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Minor said:

Erika: Love you babe, I'll be home tomorrow.

Tom: Got it!

lol!

The conversation was almost like his mistress was standing next to him, and he was trying to make it sound like it was a business phone call instead of his wife on the other end. How backward is that?

[Midnight Cheese]

I linked to this episode’s Watch What Crappens recap upthread.  Ronnie I think made the point that Teddi is embarrassed she was eagerly shit-talking Dorit and wants to blame LisaV for getting worked up and junior highish.  But that is entirely on her and it’s really deeply telling that she’s blaming LisaV for feelings and motivation that predates the Kemsleys getting any dog.  I think a smart person wouldn’t retain Teddi for anything like coaching or whatever TF “philosophy” (LOL) she uses as the basis to separate fools from their cash.

Teddi would seem totally reasonable to never forgive Dorit for the glass bullshit.   Dorit lying about meetup times is gross, but the thing she did with the glass is attempt refinement-based humiliation of someone else on camera and it’s something I’d say is unforgivable for life, as one doesn’t recover and become a better person in my experience if they see fit to argue “you are below me because your server made an inconsequential error.”   Like, ever.   So Teddi would be fine writing Dorit off forever - why can’t she admit that?   This “scheme” happened before these fools saw each other and their kids became buds.  

Teddi’s stupid business model rests 100% on the concept of accountability.   A bedrock foundation of being an adult accountable for your life, let alone your dietary and exercise choices,  is that your feelings are your responsibility!   LisaV is manipulative but her business model is “marry young and very well and live a pink-colored puppy-dominated life.”  It ain’t the same thing.

A necessary corollary to “if you know better, you do better,” is “those who know better are worse people when they knowingly do worse.”   Teddi fronts still like she’s a better person who never told a lie.  But she’s lying - not even necessarily about her textses (even though maybe she is).  She’s lying about her feelings, motivations, and culpability in this stupidity because it’s a terrible look for her business to be mean, backbiting, immature, an idiot, and to engage in a gang-up of any sort on one woman.  But Teddi’s done all of those things.

Edited March 8, 2019 by Midnight Cheese

[Beachdreamer]

8 minutes ago, Midnight Cheese said:

Teddi’s stupid business model rests 100% on the concept of accountability.   A bedrock foundation of being an adult accountable for your life, let alone your dietary and exercise choices,  is that your feelings are your responsibility!   LisaV is manipulative but her business model is “marry young and very well and live a pink-colored puppy-dominated life.”  It ain’t the same thing.

A necessary corollary to “if you know better, you do better,” is “those who know better are worse people when they knowingly do worse.”   Teddi fronts still like she’s a better person who never told a lie.  But she’s lying - not even necessarily about her textses (even though maybe she is).  She’s lying about her feelings, motivations, and culpability in this stupidity because it’s a terrible look for her business to be mean, backbiting, immature, an idiot, and to engage in a gang-up of any sort on one woman.  But Teddi’s done all of those things.

Love this!  So true

[Beachdreamer]

I'm beginning to wonder if Dorit isn't the one with the master plan.

We ended last season with her laying on top of LVP and begging for forgiveness and friendship and we open this season with Dorit clutching pearls saying how could LVP do this to me.

I think LVP walks around slightly affronted by everyone around her at any point in time anyway, so if Dorit that she's already annoyed with gives the dog away, I don't think Lisa is cool with this.  I don't know that she hatches a Machiavellian plot over it, but if the Johns do, I don't she's going to care much.  I think there was a plot and she knew about at least part of it, but probably wasn't in on it, because if she was, I think it would have been done better.

Teddi is obviously in on the plot to show the dog on camera and identify it as Dorit's. 

But I think Dorit found out and turned the tables.  She may come off as stupid, but either she or boiled ham or both are successful enough at plotting evil schemes that they are living in BH in a rented mansion.  Kyle plays both sides at all times- she probably clued her in, and then all of them worked to get Teddi on board with turning this on LVP.  Kyle is a terrible friend.

I wonder if Teddi's real frustration is she is being played on all sides and knows it, and just doesn't know what to do about it.

[Keywestclubkid]

2 hours ago, DrSparkles said:

💯

Lisa doesn't care about bad press for her business she just cares about getting ass's in the door and the name of whatever business shes pimping out there ... I mean look at her other show and the people she has working for her as long as it makes good tv and puts her business out there she is 100% fine with shitty people doing shitty things ..Dorit gave her a huge ass gift by re homing that dog..... she and the jons saw an opportunity to set this up for a new show and ran with it  I 100% believe that..... She has been trying to pimp this vanderpimp dogs place for how long now? .... she just didn't think it would blow up in her face as much as it has ......

Edited March 8, 2019 by Keywestclubkid

[Giselle]

1 hour ago, Higgins said:

You can print out your text records from your mobile carrier with time stamps and numbers.

Wouldn't that depend on your carrier?  A friend accidently deleted a text thread and she called T-Mobile customer service to restore it. They told her that all she could get back are the time and date stamps but not the actual message. They don't keep that.

[MerisWetBar]

2 hours ago, Rosebud1970 said:

How about me?

I never eat avocado. I can't stand the stuff and will go out of my way not to eat it. Even have it removed from anything I order.

At least I won't say I'm allergic to it--I'm not--like some people who claim to have celiac disease and then proceed to devour the bread basket. Ahem.

Kyle said on Twitter that she has some new food allergies or some shit and not eating avocado is one of the things they are trying to fix it and she has a sad because she does like avocado. Maybe avocado is what caused her wonky eye. 

[charming]

Obviously all powerful LVP manipulated Kyle’s eye to be wonky.

[MerisWetBar]

14 minutes ago, charming said:

Obviously all powerful LVP manipulated Kyle’s eye to be wonky.

Well yes of course. KNOW THAT.