SallySarue

For sure, a huge improvement! Craig is lazy, that's for sure. I don't think he's all there either. I find Patricia annoying too. Her ego is enormous.

It has happened over and over in this very thread, where people are reaching to make something out of nothing, claiming someone is racist, when there is a perfectly valid and logical explanation for the choices of who was banished, and it had nothing to do with what color these people are. IMO, anyone who is accusing him of being racist over what we saw on the show, is the one displaying racist tendencies by so quickly throwing such a horrible accusation out there in the first place, just because someone is white nominating someone who is black. I havn't been shown anything to indicate that anyone is racist in the house. Never once did I say anything about my comments pertaining to anyone in the house. Another assumption that seems to have come out of nowhere. My statements were solely regarding viewers comments that I have read since the last episode aired. And never once did I imply that people in the BB house shouldn't have self-awareness as to how they are coming off to the outside world. Where do you come up with this stuff?? Nevermind, I don't really care. I'm done with this topic. It's a waste of time and energy.

It's really sad that anyone would expect a houseguest to alter their gameplay, possibly to the detriment of their own game, and NOT nominate someone JUST BECAUSE because they are black, out of fear that "America would hate them for banishing every black person in the house." Especially when "every black person in the house" is only 2 people. That's hardly enough to claim he's racist. That sounds ignorant and prejudiced in itself. It's basically saying that he cannot nominate these people without fear of being accused of something as awful as being racist, just because he is WHITE. Funny how people will totally ignore the fact that he had no control over who volunteered for camp director, and that one of them happened to be black. And he had no control over the fact that the person who decided she didn't need to play the game, and didn't go talk to him, also happened to be black. Claiming that these 2 got nominated because they are black, and not acknowledging that there was a perfectly legitimate reason for nominating each of them, is ridiculous. This is pretty much how nominations have been decided for this type of stuff during the first week of the show in many other seasons of Big Brother as well. I'm tired of people pulling the race card on situations that had absolutely nothing to do with the color of anyone's skin...until THEY brought it up. Ironic. Maybe neither of the nominees (or shall I say banishees?) did anything wrong, necessarily, or deserved to be nominated. That's the whole point. It would be hard to decide who to nominate so early in the game, when there's not much to go on, so it makes sense to choose anyone who did anything to stand out...and those were the 4 most obvious people. They are all entitled to play their own game how they see fit. Oh, unless you are white I guess...in that case, you better make sure you don't nominate 2 black people, otherwise you will be accused of being racist. Unbelievable.

It drives me nuts!! They're cymbal-happy on Marriage Bootcamp too. It's so distracting and irritating. Totally agree. I swear I could see the gleam in his eyes after talking to her dad at breakfast, when he finally caught on to their little game, and decided to play along. Exactly. I refuse to believe that this isn't an act. Their behavior is just too outrageous. I could see Liz & her dad hatching a little plan to play these silly roles, in an attempt to get maximum attention once the show airs. And then waiting on the edge of their seats for the show to premiere, so they could see themselves trending on social media for having such an unusual relationship. They both committed to the characters they conjured up..."the overprotective irrational father" & "the spoiled but quirky and lovable daddy's girl"...playing it up for the camera, thinking people would find them funny, cute, quirky, entertaining. I don't think they realized how creepy and disturbing it would come off to the viewers. I don't doubt that she's a spoiled daddy's girl, or that he's overinvolved in her life...I just don't buy that it's to the extreme level that they are trying to make it seem on camera.

Those are some heavy accusations projected on a lot of people based on speculation and assumption. I don't disagree at all about the popular crowd vs the freaks & geeks, because it's true, and happens all the time. And I really don't like Jackson at all, and hope he gets evicted very soon for many of the same reasons everyone else has already mentioned. But racism never even crossed my mind until I read it here in the comments (and no, I'm not white). It's one thing to speculate that someone's choices and actions were motivated by popularity/social status or physical appearance. But to accuse someone of something that could be as character-damaging as racism...that's on a whole other level that I think a lot of viewers have jumped to too quickly. Do I think he acts like an egotistical, arrogant jerk? Yes! But in my opinion, what I've seen from Jackson so far does not justify him being labeled as racist. As you pointed out, his banishment picks could be taken a couple of ways. The way I took it was exactly how you worded it...quite reasonable and logical, in order to keep himself looking clean. They might not have shown footage of him explaining his reasoning, but I can't imagine that he didn't at some point. Why wouldn't he? But even if he didn't, I'm pretty sure the houseguests could come to that conclusion on their own. It's not a foreign concept for how the first week's nominations are often made. In fact, it's almost always how they are made, in an attempt to keep blood off of their hands (with slight variation, such as nominating the first people who dropped out of the HOH competition, or the only people who didn't attempt to talk to the HOH that week, etc). And when you said "But then again, if he was going with that logic, he should have picked Jessica, Jack, Nick, and then either Cliff or David." This wouldn't exactly make sense, because Jack & Nick didn't take an active roll in doing anything that would justify nominating them over the people who DID choose to actively run against him. Jack & Nick had no control over who voted for them. The fact that the nominations were "minority folks" could've had nothing to do with it. I agree that he seems like a typical entitled douche who values looks and athleticism over substance, but I don't recall ever hearing him say anything regarding race, or doing anything that would suggest that he doesn't like anyone other than white people. I think that's such a loaded accusation to be putting on someone, without seeing more questionable or incriminating actions to base it on. And then to further insinuate that all the people who voted for him could be racist or prejudiced or ethically flawed in some way, just makes the original claim about him being racist even less credible, since now, that label is being carelessly slapped on a whole group of people for merely playing the game they signed up for. There are just too many variables and possible reasons why people might choose to align with one person or the other, and I feel that it is extremely careless and irrational to be making such significant and hurtful allegations that could damage someone's reputation, with so little to back it up with. I don't personally know the guy...maybe he WILL turn out to be racist. Time will tell. But I find it deeply disturbing that so many people would jump on the race bandwagon over what we saw on the show so far. Especially when there is a perfectly legit reason why he picked those exact 4 people. Like I said, I would've nominated the same people, and if I found out that a bunch of strangers were accusing me of being racist over it?? I would be horrified and devestated, to say the least. I'm having a hard time understanding how it is okay to say something like this, and no one is accused of being racist. But could you imagine if someone said "If I have to watch another 6 person alliance (with *annoying black people)..." <*or insert whatever insult you prefer> Without a doubt, people would lose their ever loving minds, and go on the attack...understandably. But it's okay to say this about white people?? Mmmkkkkk (I'm not calling you, or anyone else, racist! I'm just pointing out how easily things could be taken that way, when it wasn't meant to be at all.) I agree with the first part, that he probably wasn't being racist when he nominated them, because I would've done the exact same thing, since those happen to be the 3 people that ran against him, and the 1 person who didn't speak to him. Sounds perfectly logical to me. I would understand people getting offended if they saw blatent racism going on. But that is not at all what it looked like to me. What I find offensive is people pinning the "racist" label on someone who mentioned nothing racist whatsoever, and people choosing to ignore the completely valid reason for nominating them, which seemed to me to have zero to do with the color of anyone's skin. And I do think there was a reason he couldn't sub someone else out for David. Because if he says his reason for nominations was not personal, in an attempt to get less blood on his hands since those were just the people who ran against him...but then he didn't nominate ALL of the people who ran against him...that would just completely invalidate the entire point, and his reasoning would lose all credibility. Jack & Nick did not volunteer for camp director. The houseguests were allowed to vote for whoever they wanted, whether the person volunteered or not. It was not an active choice on their part, since they had no control over who voted for them.

He was like, what the hell lady?? Ramona is always barking orders to people, as if everyone is her staff. My favorite line of the night was Tinsley "I like smores. It's smores, not shmores." That made me laugh! I hate it when people call them shmores.

Exactly...you can keep bringing up dozens of completely separate fights anytime someone posts support for what Camille did in THIS episode. But those separate fights are irrelevant. We are commenting on the Un Petit Hangover thread, so it makes sense to discuss what happened in the Un Petit Hangover episode. Just because someone got pleasure from seeing what Camille did in THIS episode, doesn't mean they are giving her a ringing endorsement to be nominated for the Most Ethical Housewife Of The Year award. It simply means that they enjoyed seeing Dorit's financial issues finally be brought to light, since she always acts as though she's so high class & uber rich. And since the whole lady chasing her by the pool fiasco was obviously left on the cutting room floor, it's nice to see her having to answer for what's going on in her life...seeing as how she did sign up to be on a reality tv show and all. Is it so crazy that we'd expect to see some resemblance of reality, instead of her chosen phoney persona, who never gets held accountable for any of her actions? You can keep arguing until you're blue in the face, saying "but Camille did this in the past" and "Camille did that in the past." But it's not about Camille. I'm not understanding how what Camille did in the past relates to it at all. She just happened to be the one who finally did it. It could've been a random stranger questioning her for all I care. The point is...that the grifting grifter finally got called out by someone who knows some dirt. It's really not that deep regarding Camille.

Right back atcha.

Pot...Kettle

Ditto on the disclaimer...for all shows! 😉

I thought it was strange that Dani apologized too. Stupid. She's got to be one of the most boring, unnecessary cast members in all of reality tv land. And yeah right, who goes into a doctor appoimtment for such a specialized procedure without doing a lick of research first?? Again, stupid. I get the feeling things are not going to end well for Naomi. Her bf doesn't even seem to be that into her. And I don't think he's all that in the looks OR personality depatment, but she sure is smitten. To each her own I guess. She's really feeding his ego though!

Yeah, I thought I remembered that Chelsea & Dani WERE talking about Katherine when she walked by them at Craigs pillow party.

Especially when they have gobs of toothpaste foam all over the outside of their mouth while brushing. This is one of my pet peeves. There is no reason to look like a rabid dog when brushing your teeth if you keep the toothbrush & toothpaste in your mouth. It's not hard!

I caught that too. So far, all the food made for the crew looked fine...way better than any of the food made for the guests! Maybe they are punking us, and Mila is in on it...she really does know how to cook, but they offered her more money to make herself look bad and crap it up for drama's sake when cooking for the high-falutin' guests. 😄

I think the problem is that Sandy likes to soften the blow with a compliment, but doesn't always put enough sauce on the blow to make it the take-away, if you get what I'm saying.  You explained it perfectly! I do this too, because I feel bad hurting people's lil feelers. But it's not a good thing, because you end up having to have the difficult conversation a second time. Now this is not a problem for Captain Lee. Totally different management styles, that's for sure!