S01.E05: Miracles

[libgirl2]

3 hours ago, Snow Apple said:

The only thing that would make the milkshake scene better would be Becky trying to use a straw.

Darlene's boss is played by Jay R Ferguson, right? I know him from The Real O'Neal's. I was sad when it was canceled so I'm glad to see him again. I agree he's hot.

I was kind of hoping we would see her drinking (or trying to) it with a straw but it was cute anyway. 

[Pete Martell]

2 hours ago, Pallas said:

In a way, Emilio is being written to suggest that he combines the best of both Healys. He too had a home that he had to leave behind. In Mexico he helped build new Ford engines. He also sees more to Becky than what are now her jagged edges, as David did of Darlene. What's different to the Healy brothers is that Emilio seems secure in his own skin, with no shame or grievance: he's a grown-up, and looks to have been so even when he was young.

I couldn't tell if he was meant to be anything real for Becky or if he is just there so we will know who got her pregnant, but I like your connecting him to Mark and David. 

It would be nice if Becky could find some happiness, although she would probably roll over Emilio, who seems so sweet.

The actor, whoever he is, is really gorgeous (like Glenn Quinn [RIP]), so I guess I can say Becky continues to have good taste. He's a good actor too - he got right in there with Laurie Metcalf (I really liked their scenes, both the comedy of her not telling Becky that he was calling her promiscuous, and the more serious stuff about his past and when she offered to help him learn English).

[StaceyNotStacie]

1 hour ago, Dee said:

Becky is a promiscuous alcoholic and Darlene is a sullen bitch but Geena is the problem? Ok.

I wonder if it’s more that Geena is mostly a new character while Becky and Darlene have been around for years. She might be considered as more of an interloper to some since this version of the character wasn’t a part of the original series. 

[tessaray]

The writing isn't doing Geena any favors.  I laughed at the Afghanistan comment because it felt real but who on earth would say God put that (baby/life?) in her uterus?  

I live in the Midwest and we have plenty of Hispanic neighbors, both citizens and not.  Some come up to work in the packing plants or do farm work and they stay.  Lots of times they open restaurants. That's one of the side benefits of immigration. 

If Dan hires Emilio to hang dry wall the Internet will probably explode but I would enjoy the irony.

[Pete Martell]

2 hours ago, Mmmfloorpie said:

Also, Geena is REALLY grating on me. When we first found out the character was recast, I stated this is probably because with Roseanne's death they wanted to expand the character and get a comedic actress. I think we can definitively now say that was right. I don't mind that she has a bigger role, but why does she have to constantly play it at that "jive talking, tell-it-like-it-is, black woman" stereotype level? Take a lesson from Anne Marie, who was probably my favourite non regular cast member. She acted like a normal person most of the time but then would insert that type of "oh no you didn't" remark when it was appropriate and it was way funnier. Geena is at that level ALL THE TIME and she comes off as someone you wouldn't want to spend time with in real life.

This new Darlene love interest is also disappointing. The actor who plays him is "straight out of central casting" and doesn't look like anyone who would actually live in Lanford. I guess this is a perk of being Exec Producer and getting to pick your boyfriend. Neil should have been the new love interest but he could have been played tough like the newspaper boss instead of a whimp. I could buy him as the editor who singlehandedly runs a small newspaper.

I don't feel like everything Geena says or does is a stereotype. I think we barely see her, and when we do see her very little is based on anything about her or in her own life, so the scenes are more likely to come across that way. For instance, we seem to frequently have her mention religion. There's nothing wrong with that, but it feels like "she is a Christian" and "she's in the army" are about all we get for traits. There's a way to be a supporting character and still be allowed more dimension.

I actually thought that Darlene's boss (who I found out was in the Twin Peaks revival - as a shouty fed) was kind of like Dan. It made me wonder if Darlene is moving on from David issues to daddy issues. 

[Pete Martell]

15 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

So many jokes they could have done with Jackie also being a unwed older woman who got pregnant on a one night stand. But alas lol Andy never was in this alternate universe 

I kept wondering if she would ever mention Andy, but...nope. Jackie is such a mess of a character, in many ways, although I am enjoying her more this season than I have in a good long while (almost 25 years...I feel very old!)

[Dee]

27 minutes ago, tessaray said:

The writing isn't doing Geena any favors.  I laughed at the Afghanistan comment because it felt real but who on earth would say God put that (baby/life?) in her uterus? 

Geena saying God made Becky pregnant was her way of acknowledging Becky's luck within her circumstances imo. She was sincerely happy for Becky, unlike Darlene who responded with her usual snide remarks.

Edited November 21, 2018 by Dee

[tessaray]

11 minutes ago, Pete Martell said:

I actually thought that Darlene's boss (who I found out was in the Twin Peaks revival - as a shouty fed) was kind of like Dan. It made me wonder if Darlene is moving on from David issues to daddy issues. 

I doubt it.  Just storytelling shorthand for Darlene eventually realizing that the best kind of relationships don't involve walking all over your partner.  Roseanne might have been overbearing and Dan easygoing but he had a spine.  (Unlike David.)   

[AgentRXS]

I think the actress that plays Geena at times puts an a over-the-top inflection in her lines, and makes her come off as a stereotypical caricature. I don't know if it is just because she is a weak actress or if she's being directed that way (I hope not). I don't dislike the character but some of her scenes can be cringeworthy. No different that Jackie last season.

The one thing I do hate is that the writing seems to be going strictly for funny and not too much in-depth with the drama. I keep trying to remember the writing talent we had for those early seasons of the original show, and how these writers can't be expected to compare. (Obviously it wasn't solely R, because we saw what happened in the later seasons when her level of creative control increased).  But its hard because you expect more in-depth conversations than just jokey ones that end in punchlines.

I am surprised that so many posters are shocked at Jackie learning/knowing Spanish. I think the Mexican restaurant replaced the Lobo because they wanted to reflect the change in the town's demographics. I love that Jackie was progressive enough to get ahead of it and become bilingual. I could see her sitting at her computer, absorbed in her Rosetta Stone classes. Can't you just see her driving everyone crazy by teaching them what things mean in Spanish?

[chocolatine]

3 hours ago, Mmmfloorpie said:

Also, Geena is REALLY grating on me. When we first found out the character was recast, I stated this is probably because with Roseanne's death they wanted to expand the character and get a comedic actress.

Xosha Roquemore, who played Geena in the Roseanne reboot, *is* a comedic actress, a very good one at that. The recast must have had to do with her availability or something else. Xosha would have been great in this role.

[iMonrey]

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I like the comedic potential of Darlene's new job and her hot boss, but how can this "magazine" possibly make enough money to employ two people full-time (plus a freelance photographer, I'm guessing)? I doubt the local businesses are lining up to buy ad space.

I wondered that too - and I'm not clear on whether or not she was still working for the casino, but I think she'd make way more money just in tips at a casino than she would working for a one-man operation like this local tabloid. I get that she would prefer a writing job but there's a financial reality to it too.

My favorite bit was Jackie hearing about the woman who shot her own mother in the garage and said she thought it was a badger, and Jackie goes "Does it say whether she got away with it? Wait . . . it doesn't matter, I don't have a garage."

I think Jay Ferguson is a good match for Darlene, they played well off each other and it would be nice to see her with someone she didn't walk all over.

Not sure how I feel about Becky's pregnancy - I think the best outcome is she lets the lesbian couple adopt it, but those characters just appeared out of the blue and we don't know a thing about them.

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I think the actress that plays Geena at times puts an a over-the-top inflection in her lines, and makes her come off as a stereotypical caricature.

Here's the thing - Geena and DJ have been married for at least, what - six or seven years (depending on how old Mary is supposed to be and whether they were married at the time). I'm assuming they dated before marriage so Geena has known the Conners long enough to know they aren't religious. Yet she keeps shoving her beliefs in their face every time we see her and not only is it rude, I don't know why any of them would associate with her or put up with it, or why she would want anything to do with them either. It's also a really insulting way of portraying someone who considers themselves a Christian because it suggests they go around shoving their religion down everyone's throats and don't give a damn whether anyone cares or not.

She appears to be the "token Christian" representative among the characters but she's so one-note because that's all that ever comes out of her mouth.

[Mmmfloorpie]

42 minutes ago, Pete Martell said:

I don't feel like everything Geena says or does is a stereotype. I think we barely see her, and when we do see her very little is based on anything about her or in her own life, so the scenes are more likely to come across that way. For instance, we seem to frequently have her mention religion. There's nothing wrong with that, but it feels like "she is a Christian" and "she's in the army" are about all we get for traits. There's a way to be a supporting character and still be allowed more dimension.

I actually thought that Darlene's boss (who I found out was in the Twin Peaks revival - as a shouty fed) was kind of like Dan. It made me wonder if Darlene is moving on from David issues to daddy issues. 

Well we will have to see more of the new love interest before we can say for sure I guess.

With Geena though, I think it's pretty clear how they are using her. The Conners are the lame white people and she's the fast talking black who shakes them up a bit.  In a way she's kind of like the new Roseanne. Sort of a loudmouth who "cuts through the crap" and says what's on her mind. Roseanne always did that with a glint her eye or a smile on her face or said something with a really ironic subtext to it. It made her abrasiveness more endearing. Watch her do her "housewife" standup routine on Carson to see what I mean. To me they are trying to do that with Geena but obviously she is no Roseanne and the writing isn't as good so she comes off really repulsive.

[BeachDays]

50 minutes ago, Pete Martell said:

 

I actually thought that Darlene's boss (who I found out was in the Twin Peaks revival - as a shouty fed) was kind of like Dan. It made me wonder if Darlene is moving on from David issues to daddy issues. 

 

32 minutes ago, tessaray said:

I doubt it.  Just storytelling shorthand for Darlene eventually realizing that the best kind of relationships don't involve walking all over your partner.  Roseanne might have been overbearing and Dan easygoing but he had a spine.  (Unlike David.)   

 

This is just my theory, and it might be completely wrong-  but I feel like basically David and Darlene will learn how to be better partners with their experiences this season and then reunite.   I am a huge David/Darlene fan so maybe I am seeing it with a skewed look, but I feel like they still love each other strongly and the season finale might end with them starting anew.  

[Pete Martell]

12 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

See, I thought the Becky actress was not good when she said while exiting that she thought she’d get support from her family.

I thought the scenes where Becky told the family were awkwardly placed between comedy and drama (and there was no buildup either). Lecy Goranson has a very unique acting style which isn't well-served in the more unfocused moments.

[janie jones]

13 hours ago, chocolatine said:

I like the comedic potential of Darlene's new job and her hot boss, but how can this "magazine" possibly make enough money to employ two people full-time (plus a freelance photographer, I'm guessing)? I doubt the local businesses are lining up to buy ad space.

I got the impression that the only photos in the magazine were mugshots.  Probably most of their ad revenue comes from ambulance chasers and bail bondsmen.

What's the deal with the milkshake?

[chocolatine]

3 minutes ago, janie jones said:

What's the deal with the milkshake?

It's a callback to the original. There was an episode where Roseanne and Dan were fighting with Becky because they didn't want her to keep seeing Mark. At the end of the episode, there was a reconciliation of sorts and Dan made milkshakes. The options were thick-thick, medium-thick, or thin-thick.  The milkshake he made in this episode was definitely thick-thick.

[Pete Martell]

40 minutes ago, AgentRXS said:

The one thing I do hate is that the writing seems to be going strictly for funny and not too much in-depth with the drama. I keep trying to remember the writing talent we had for those early seasons of the original show, and how these writers can't be expected to compare. (Obviously it wasn't solely R, because we saw what happened in the later seasons when her level of creative control increased).  But its hard because you expect more in-depth conversations than just jokey ones that end in punchlines.

I thought last week did a pretty good job with the more serious material (Dan's grief). It felt a lot like the old show. 

This week seemed to be much more of a struggle to push in comedic elements and one-liners rather than explore the serious material. There was also not much development leading up to some of the stories this week. For instance, we only saw Darlene's new boyfriend for a handful of scenes and then suddenly he's a pushover and Darlene is controlling him and they're done. It was difficult to invest. I was especially confused because they had announced they were casting Justin Long, who wasn't a big name to me, but seemed to be to other people, and this was announced a while before his appearances. I assumed he was going to do much more than a few small scenes. 

I guess this is where the show having 10 or 11 episodes instead of 22 or 23 takes a bite. We're not seeing everything we need to see.

4 minutes ago, chocolatine said:

It's a callback to the original. There was an episode where Roseanne and Dan were fighting with Becky because they didn't want her to keep seeing Mark. At the end of the episode, there was a reconciliation of sorts and Dan made milkshakes. The options were thick-thick, medium-thick, or thin-thick.  The milkshake he made in this episode was definitely thick-thick.

The Dan/Becky relationship has been one of the strong points of this season. I'm glad they're keeping it going. 

[peacheslatour]

7 minutes ago, chocolatine said:

It's a callback to the original. There was an episode where Roseanne and Dan were fighting with Becky because they didn't want her to keep seeing Mark. At the end of the episode, there was a reconciliation of sorts and Dan made milkshakes. The options were thick-thick, medium-thick, or thin-thick.  The milkshake he made in this episode was definitely thick-thick.

Dan was giving Becky the silent treatment because she and Mark had taken Dan's Harley out and Mark had messed with the carburetor.

[libgirl2]

14 minutes ago, chocolatine said:

It's a callback to the original. There was an episode where Roseanne and Dan were fighting with Becky because they didn't want her to keep seeing Mark. At the end of the episode, there was a reconciliation of sorts and Dan made milkshakes. The options were thick-thick, medium-thick, or thin-thick.  The milkshake he made in this episode was definitely thick-thick.

I remember her face as she was trying to suck it through the straw! 

[Vixenstud]

5 hours ago, Mmmfloorpie said:

Also, Geena is REALLY grating on me. When we first found out the character was recast, I stated this is probably because with Roseanne's death they wanted to expand the character and get a comedic actress. I think we can definitively now say that was right. I don't mind that she has a bigger role, but why does she have to constantly play it at that "jive talking, tell-it-like-it-is, black woman" stereotype level? Take a lesson from Anne Marie, who was probably my favourite non regular cast member. She acted like a normal person most of the time but then would insert that type of "oh no you didn't" remark when it was appropriate and it was way funnier. Geena is at that level ALL THE TIME and she comes off as someone you wouldn't want to spend time with in real life.

Co-sign to this!  I'm waiting for a snap and loud 'GIR-FRIEND!' to come out.

I clutched the pearls and blushed when Ben told Darlene he was a grown-assed man and would order what he wanted....if I were her, I would have taken him right on that table then and there!

Edited November 21, 2018 by Vixenstud

[Chaos Theory]

4 hours ago, Dee said:

Becky is a promiscuous alcoholic and Darlene is a sullen bitch but Geena is the problem? Ok.

 

But Becky and Darlene are FUNNY and this is a comedy.  So a funny promiscuous alcoholic and a funny sullen bitch is ultimately less a problem then whatever Geena is supposed to be.(And that is also a problem what is Geena supposed to be????)

Edited November 21, 2018 by Chaos Theory

[leighdear]

Do we know that Mary is actually DJ's biological daughter?  Because Geena may not have that long a history with the Conners.  

[tessaray]

2 hours ago, BeachDays said:

 

 

This is just my theory, and it might be completely wrong-  but I feel like basically David and Darlene will learn how to be better partners with their experiences this season and then reunite.   I am a huge David/Darlene fan so maybe I am seeing it with a skewed look, but I feel like they still love each other strongly and the season finale might end with them starting anew.  

I think they will always love each other but there are too many toxic years to get past. First love rarely lasts forever. 

[love2lovebadtv]

3 hours ago, Pete Martell said:

I couldn't tell if he was meant to be anything real for Becky or if he is just there so we will know who got her pregnant, but I like your connecting him to Mark and David. 

It would be nice if Becky could find some happiness, although she would probably roll over Emilio, who seems so sweet.

The actor, whoever he is, is really gorgeous (like Glenn Quinn [RIP]), so I guess I can say Becky continues to have good taste. He's a good actor too - he got right in there with Laurie Metcalf (I really liked their scenes, both the comedy of her not telling Becky that he was calling her promiscuous, and the more serious stuff about his past and when she offered to help him learn English).

I thought that was because Jackie isn't a fluent Spanish speaker. It's hard for someone on Jackie's level to simultaneously interpret and catch everything. But maybe I misunderstood and she did know what he was saying but left out certain parts. 

[Concerned]

Smart to keep Darlene unmarried because the show can continue with Sara Gilbert as the star when John Goodman and Laurie Metcalf leave after Christmas and the show is retooled without them and worthless DJ.

[Westiepeach]

1 hour ago, leighdear said:

Do we know that Mary is actually DJ's biological daughter?  Because Geena may not have that long a history with the Conners.  

I wondered that same thing. I was just about to ask that same question. 

[Annber03]

2 hours ago, libgirl2 said:

I remember her face as she was trying to suck it through the straw! 

"I think I just cracked a rib!"

4 hours ago, iMonrey said:

My favorite bit was Jackie hearing about the woman who shot her own mother in the garage and said she thought it was a badger, and Jackie goes "Does it say whether she got away with it? Wait . . . it doesn't matter, I don't have a garage..

I loved that bit, too :D. 

As for Geena, I like her, myself, and I would like to see more of her. I liked the moment between her and Darlene early on this season where they kinda bantered back and forth over their religious differences-it felt like a real family moment, and I like the way they explored the contrast between her beliefs and those of the Connors in the last episode,, so if they can keep doing things like that, be it with religion or other aspects of her life (I'm particularly interested in learning more about her time in the military, and the ways in which it's impacted and affected her and her family), I'd be all for it.

[Not4Me]

I guess I’m in the category that found this storyline utterly depressing because the last thing Becky needed was an unplanned pregnancy. The part that really ticked me off was the “comedy” of Becky potentially scamming her manager into thinking he’s the father while Jackie egged her on, that part left a bad taste in my mouth. I get characters change but, like what the hell happened to Becky? She’s lost all concept with reality! Darlene snarking on Becky was expected, and I don’t blame her since she’s a lot more grounded. I’d be happy for this storyline to end and have her go to hotel management school.

I did like Darlene’s new boss, she needs a guy that really contrasts her. He’s like a more college-educated version of Dan.

[leighdear]

50 minutes ago, Westiepeach said:

I wondered that same thing. I was just about to ask that same question. 

I don't remember it being addressed in the previous season or this one.  Somebody else may remember a reference, but if DJ met Geena while on active duty, she may already have had Mary by a different father.  Thus not having the dating/engaged/married/baby history with the Connors.   

We haven't seen much of Mary, but I get no sense of DJ being her daddy, bio or otherwise.  To me, It's like she belongs to another family.  

[peacheslatour]

The show runners have already said she's the same Geena that DJ didn't want to kiss in the original show.

[Not4Me]

3 hours ago, leighdear said:

Do we know that Mary is actually DJ's biological daughter?  Because Geena may not have that long a history with the Conners.  

See I don’t get that. Is it because Mary doesn’t appear biracial? Even if she is several shades darker than her father it’s still entirely plausible that she would be the biological offspring of Genna and DJ, that’s the beautiful mystery of genetics sometimes.  :-)

Also it would seem like an unnecessarily complicated storyline to have DJ simply be her adopted father, and the storylines are already  complicated as is. I would accept it if that were the case, but again, it feels kinda extra when there’s a lot more in that family’s storyline to dive into.

[Morbs]

I'd rather be a drunk slut than support organized religion.

[peacheslatour]

Just now, Morbs said:

I'd rather be a drunk slut than support organized religion.

A rich drunken slut.

[BlossomCulp]

36 minutes ago, leighdear said:

We haven't seen much of Mary, but I get no sense of DJ being her daddy, bio or otherwise.  To me, It's like she belongs to another family.  

If they have never addressed this as a possibility I think we are safe to accept that Mary is DJs daughter.  

[ridethemaverick]

Add me to the list of folks who isn't feeling Geena. The original adult Geena, from what little I saw of her, seemed sweet, gorgeous, and potentially funny. I can see why DJ would be attracted to her and want to make her happy. The new Geena? She's just loud and one-note, and just as overbearing as DJ's mother without the occasional charm or heartfelt moments. With this Geena, DJ probably only does what she says to keep from getting reprimanded. And frankly, as a black woman, I do find new Geena to be cringeworthy in a way that old Geena, Anne Marie, and Ronda never were. Just my .02.

This episode was great. I'm looking forward to the banter between Darlene and Ben.

Oh, I wasn't feeling the lesbian couple either. The short-haired one is not a good actress and that scene with just the two of them had a weird vibe to it. I would be fine not seeing them again but I don't think the writers would have introduced them if they weren't going to be part of the plot down the road.

I also didn't miss the kids. The core family is good enough for me.

[Ottis]

23 hours ago, Stacey1014 said:

This was probably my favorite episode of the season. I liked that everyone for the most part was genuinely happy for Becky. I liked the busboy and enjoyed his conversations with Jackie. Despite the language barrier, he seemed intelligent and would be a good match for the Becky that we knew from the original series. I wonder if, depending on his status, if there will be a green card marriage. I hope that the lesbian couple from the bar doesn’t try to guilt Becky into giving them her baby.

I liked Darlene’s new job. I’m guessing that the boss will be her new love interest. There was some chemistry between the two of them and he is definitely not David. 

I was mystified that everyone was happy for Becky. She gave up on the surrogate job, and now has no boyfriend, not much of a job, and now she is having a baby? Why is that something to celebrate? She proved that doctors who thought she was too old, and drank a lot, were wrong... so she can have a difficult pregnancy? Uh, OK.

On top of that, now we have baby tropes to deal with. Well, at least this carries on the Connor family’s long tradition of poor choices. 

Still dig Darlene.

Jackie was much better overall. Less whacky and more funny. 

Edited November 22, 2018 by Ottis

[tessaray]

2 hours ago, leighdear said:

We haven't seen much of Mary, but I get no sense of DJ being her daddy, bio or otherwise.  To me, It's like she belongs to another family.  

In the revival, I never got the impression that Roseanne treated Mary like anything other than her granddaughter.  With Geena now in the mix, it has kind of changed the dynamic between DJ and Mary a little, though I doubt that was intentional. 

Genetics really are strange. I have biracial nieces and nephews, same mother and father, with skin tones ranging from very dark to extremely light skinned.  

[shksabelle]

YAY!! Another SSM having a kid she has no way to support. 

Let’s all celebrate. 

[jamfly]

I really really hate what they're doing with Becky's baby already; first the lesbian couple up and deciding they want to adopt it despite Becky giving no indication that she was going that route to them. Very predatory and a weird choice. 

 

Second, I hate the "I'm going to raise this baby on my own!" crap. You want a baby on your own, you go to a sperm donor. The busboy has rights once the baby is born, and deserves to be in his child's life. Plus Becky will for sure need his help.

 

They really seem to be ignore the realities of having a baby; Becky should have been ready to go to AA and enroll in community college, as well as asking about moving in with Dan to save money instead it was jokes and happiness. 

 

 I hope this is the catalyst for Becky to turn her life around, get real help and grow up. Instead it'll probably be some sort of comedic "Becky can't handle having a baby and gives it to the lesbian couple!" thing. 

Edited November 22, 2018 by jamfly

[Dee]

2 hours ago, Not4Me said:

See I don’t get that. Is it because Mary doesn’t appear biracial?

I'm tired of the narrative that lightskin and straight hair equals biracial.

For every Zoe Kravitz or Zendaya there is a Jordan Peele or a Kristoff St. John

[mojito]

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I guess I’m in the category that found this storyline utterly depressing because the last thing Becky needed was an unplanned pregnancy. The part that really ticked me off was the “comedy” of Becky potentially scamming her manager into thinking he’s the father while Jackie egged her on, that part left a bad taste in my mouth.

I understand how you feel. It's a bit of a surprise that Jackie was sort of supporting Becky, but it came as no surprise that Becky showed a lack of character and decency. She's a Conner afterall. 

I watched all of the original show (don't remember most of it) and watched the re-boot with Roseanne. I don't think the show is any worse without her, and no better either. 

I would prefer that Becky give custody to the lesbians and occasionally, we could see the dynamic between Becky, the couple, and the baby daddy and not have a baby in the Conner household. I do not look forward to the pregnancy stories and the inevitable "madcap" experience of the baby being born.  

[Snow Apple]

I just remembered this little touch. Wal-Mart sells the exact caramel colored jacket Becky was wearing. I wonder if the wardrobe department brought it there. Very realistic for this show. High school Becky probably won't be caught dead in Wal-Mart clothes but things change once you grow up and living off your own wages.

[CrystalBlue]

10 hours ago, iMonrey said:

I wondered that too - and I'm not clear on whether or not she was still working for the casino, but I think she'd make way more money just in tips at a casino than she would working for a one-man operation like this local tabloid. I get that she would prefer a writing job but there's a financial reality to it too.

My favorite bit was Jackie hearing about the woman who shot her own mother in the garage and said she thought it was a badger, and Jackie goes "Does it say whether she got away with it? Wait . . . it doesn't matter, I don't have a garage."

I think Jay Ferguson is a good match for Darlene, they played well off each other and it would be nice to see her with someone she didn't walk all over.

Not sure how I feel about Becky's pregnancy - I think the best outcome is she lets the lesbian couple adopt it, but those characters just appeared out of the blue and we don't know a thing about them.

Here's the thing - Geena and DJ have been married for at least, what - six or seven years (depending on how old Mary is supposed to be and whether they were married at the time). I'm assuming they dated before marriage so Geena has known the Conners long enough to know they aren't religious. Yet she keeps shoving her beliefs in their face every time we see her and not only is it rude, I don't know why any of them would associate with her or put up with it, or why she would want anything to do with them either. It's also a really insulting way of portraying someone who considers themselves a Christian because it suggests they go around shoving their religion down everyone's throats and don't give a damn whether anyone cares or not.

She appears to be the "token Christian" representative among the characters but she's so one-note because that's all that ever comes out of her mouth.

I agree with everything above, except I don't see the need for Becky to give her baby up for adoption.  She's thrilled to be pregnant, she has already said she can't drink because she's pregnant, and Emilio and she may become a couple.  Other than that, all your points above I totally agree with!

[SomeTameGazelle]

21 minutes ago, CrystalBlue said:

I agree with everything above, except I don't see the need for Becky to give her baby up for adoption.  She's thrilled to be pregnant, she has already said she can't drink because she's pregnant, and Emilio and she may become a couple.  Other than that, all your points above I totally agree with!

Becky didn't show any of her delight to her lesbian customers -- she told them she didn't know how she was going to manage (and if I recall correctly she was in tears). It was still a leap for them to assume that they should take the baby, but not as big a one as if she had been beaming with joy. To be honest I thought it would turn out that Becky was intentionally being pathetic in order to get a bigger tip.

[SimonSeymour]

5 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

The show runners have already said she's the same Geena that DJ didn't want to kiss in the original show.

Exactly. Gina has been around since the original show. 

[Blissfool]

When the actors were doing the rounds on talk shows promoting the Roseanne reboot, Roseanne said that Mary is DJ and Geena's daughter. She even said about the little actress, "Isn't she great? She even looks like she could really be their daughter?" 

*I* didn't agree, but the interviewers just went along with it. 

[Camera One]

I didn't like the idea of Becky being pregnant but she has become one of the stronger characters so this could be a good storyline for her.  

I wasn't too fond of the newspaper boss, and felt no chemistry with Darlene.  Hopefully that changes.  All I know is that when he was talking, I zoned out.

Edited November 22, 2018 by Camera One

[geauxaway]

I liked Jackie this episode, she made me laugh out loud a few times.

Not a fan of Becky’s pregnancy.  Happy for her, because it seems she wanted to be a mom (although as a young widow myself there ARE other ways to get there.  That aside....), but why did it have to be by the one night stand bus boy.  WHY can’t this family have anything in their favor?  Let me guess, we will find out he is not a citizen?  I am really hoping that is not where they are going with this.  

I know I sound negative, but I did like this one and all I would wish is for a little more light fun with the show.  

[Meushell]

Darlene’s first date didn’t remind me of David, but of DJ. When they show him meeting DJ, I flashbacked to Niles and Rodney meeting on Frasier. 

Wow. That lesbian couple got creepy fast. At least wait until you are out of the restaurant first. If Becky gives up the baby, I hope it’s not to them. Actually, if she decides not to be a mom, I hope the dad decides to be a single dad. Whether Becky decides to raise the baby or give up her rights as a mother, he should not have to lose his child.

[msrachelj]

20 hours ago, TomGirl said:

Ditto.  She just comes on way too strong!

least favorite character. is it the actress also, i don't know.  i wish they would recast or just get rid of her, move , whatever. dj needs  a storyline too, he is so uninteresting.