S10.E18: There's No Place Like Home

[ichbin]

3 hours ago, UsernameFatigue said:

3 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

Sneak peak

Dorinda is mad...and it's not about John. It's about Sonja - Luann invites Sonja to perform with her not Dorinda "the loyal" one

 

I couldn't understand from the preview - did Dorinda say John wasn't there because he wasn't invited?

 Yeah.  She said that Scott, who Luanne had only met once, was invited yet John who she has known for six years was not.  Whatever went down at that show, Dorinda's face in the preview looked genuinely pissed off.  I really believe that a lot of what goes on is strictly for the cameras, but she looked legitimately furious.  I am anticipating one doozy of a reunion.

Edited August 9, 2018 by ichbin
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[ScoobieDoobs]

31 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

She went to Columbia undergrad and graduated with a degree in art history. Topper went to NYU. 

See, now that's kinda interesting.  It confirms what I've thought about Tinz.  She's not showing us who she really is.  Which I find really annoying.  Clearly, she's smart & we sometimes get glimmers of that.  But mostly she acts like such a damn nitwit, what else are we to think?

And that scene with Carole & Tinz was really weird.  First off, Carole was showing what a thoughtless asshole she could be.  I had thought before, only being Bethenny's follower/ass-smoocher brought that out in her.  Guess not, eh?

Tinz shoulda said to asshole Carole -- Look, bitch, back off & don't psychoanalyze me!!!  Instead, her tearless crying looked like fake junk for the cam -- or that she really is a head case.  Tinz is all over the place, but that boyfriend had to go.

Why are there so many shots of loserish men that make me go -- oh no, not him?  Adam, Tinz's bf, John (and his hair plugs), and even that guy with the ugly fur vest.  I was kinda surprised that Snoopy, the red scarf guy, didn't make a re-appearance.  Guess we're just left to wonder why the heck did Bethenny contact him again?

Edited August 9, 2018 by ScoobieDoobs

[Duke2801]

5 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

I question the veracity of their friendship off-show.

Carole didn't even know Heather was running the marathon - Heather who when she was on the show did everything athletic inclusive of that Spartan race with her husband.

False. She knew Heather was running the marathon. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/people.com/tv/rhony-carole-radziwill-paid-tribute-late-husband-anthony-marathon/amp/

[queenjen]

yes, Heather and Carole ran into each other at the marathon finish, didn't they? Or am I dreaming? And even if they both knew the other was running, Heather is a different fitness level to Carole, who has eschewed exerise, she tells us, all her life. Carole had a personal trainer just for the marathon. Heather wouldn't have needed that and wouldn't have been experienced enough (or had the time) to train Carole through it either. Have to say, if I paid a dude to get me marathon ready from scratch, I'd also want him/her to run it with me. 

Carole is looking down the barrel of 60. She seems to be dealing with this by fulfilling some kind of bucket list: young guys, decorate apartment, run marathon, get into fashion, don't become Ramona. Bethenny is still grinding. Bethenny is composed of 100% nervous energy, she works and parties and shops hard. She's a LOT. Carole, on the other hand, does pretty much nothing. She ran the marathon and she wrote an article for Cosmopolitan. She didn't fulfil her book deadline, and I don't think she will. Getting optioned a second time probably occurred due to the hard work of her publishing house, not Carole's effort. It's a great windfall for her if it happens, but option 1 didn't pan out, so I wouldn't be holding my breath. Carole is drifting and Bethenny continues frenetic. I'm not a cheerleader for Beth, I see her as a really broken hurt human being, but she is genuinely perplexed about Carole's cooling off. She's hurt. Carole is functioning better in Tinsley's lane at present, which isn't something I could ever see Bethenny aspire to. I think Bethenny really thought Carole was a close family friend and now Carole has friend hopped to Tinz. Some people do that. And Carole seems to want to relive her youth while she still can at present, she's just not there emotionally for Bethenny and she doesn't care. It's hard. It's a bit painful to watch, especially as Bethenny resorts to her child ego state when she's hurt like this: continuing to talk about Carole when she must have known she was there last episode, the whining and the crying etc. I still feel for her though. Her apartments always feel empty to me, no matter how beautiful and expensive they are. Except for the one she originally filmed in, that looked lived in and chaotic and warm. 

Edited August 9, 2018 by queenjen

[weaver]

8 hours ago, Duke2801 said:

Sounds like a bit of revisionist history, but sure. 

I remember the opposite.  Heather was being solicitous of Bethenny's eating, or lack thereof, and was offering food.    Now Heather can be overbearing, its true.  Her personality is quite forceful.  Bethenny had one of her proverbial meltdowns (divorce was torture, no one can understand, she's a prisoner in her own apartment, yada, yada, yada) and had a crying jag.  

[biakbiak]

57 minutes ago, queenjen said:

yes, Heather and Carole ran into each other at the marathon finish, didn't they

Start and finish. As posted above because of how you are staggered into groupings to start the marathon they weren’t sure if they would see each other before the race not that she didn’t know she was running it. 

[lamujerdecente]

9 hours ago, Lemons said:

I got my ice cream and turned on the show as they were showing clips from last week.  Just as I put my first bite of chocolate brownie ice cream into my mouth, the screen zooms in on a shit streaked floor.  Thanks show. 

See these bitches care about your waist size! Shallow, vapid useless bitches my butt! 

[Coffeewinewater]

8 hours ago, pieinmyeye said:

I’d rather hear about the diarrhea fest. than hear another frigging word about Carol and Beth’s friendship. Grow the hell up!!

Omg yes! We get it, Carole grew tired of everything being about Bethany and Bethany became annoyed that Carole wasn't there for her every time she snapped her fingers. Got it , we can all move on. 

Edited August 9, 2018 by Coffeewinewater

[Chit Chat]

4 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

OK, soooo WTH was that scene for?  Showing B with her new bestie Sonja -- who she clearly thinks is a nut & an idiot?  Why was Bethenny screeching at the mention of "package"?  I didn't get any of it. 

While the jeans were on the mannequins, they were doing something (maybe trying to make the jeans look worn), and Bethenny noticed they did something on the zipper part of the men's jeans, to which the guy relied "that's why they're called BPDs."  Big Package Denims.   

Carole confirmed to Heather what I've been thinking all along about the demise of her and Bethenny's relationship: "Too much Bethenny, not enough Carole."   I'm sure it got exhausting dealing with all of Bethenny's supposed woes.  The rapid fire talking alone would drive me nuts.  There's a really sweet lady who sometimes fills in in our office and she runs off at the mouth 90 to nothing.  I steer clear of her the whole day.  I just can't deal with that type of personality.  YMMV.  

And again with the 'I walk alone' kind of statement to Dorinda.  She told Dorinda that she'll always have John, but Bethenny said she'll probably be all alone in her apartment for the rest of her life.  There are no guarantees that John and Dorinda will be together forever, and Bethenny might just meet Mr. Perfect and live happily ever after.  Glass half-full, Bethenny!!   And why diss Carole just because she doesn't want to act like she's 15 years old all of the time?  Sheesh. 

[Keywestclubkid]

4 hours ago, ivygirl said:

Carole wants a light friendship = she just can’t hang with deep people (like Bethenny)

Bethenny and Sonja like to laugh together and act like “morons” = it’s all good fun!

 

The Sonja Bethany friendship is so super odd didn’t she make fun of how stupid Sonja and Ramona act how they are the bobble head twins or something and now she’s running around being "best friends" and having forced “fun” just to show Carole see you did it with Tinsley I can do it to. (plus she has alienated herself from pretty much everyone but Sonja and Luann) I mean to attack Carole's friendship with Tinsley then to go and act the same way with Sonja is just mind boggling and way super hypocritical. Bethany really is acting like a stage 5 clinger, the friendship is dead Carole (has sat with Bethany and tried to hash it out 5 times in just 4 episodes and when she thinks they have settled it here comes Beth and dragging the same topic up again) and seems now to have moved on) Bethany has stated over and over her distaste with everything Carole does and says and wears and acts. The only reason she is still harping on this is because Carole is the only one to ever be her friend and has chosen not to grovel and beg for the friendship the way Bethany is used to point blank period let’s be real if Carole was begging for the friendship Bethany would have dumped the topic and Carole long ago but how dare Carole not beg to be her friend what the hell doesn’t she know who Bethany is? Bethany is the ONLY who who doesn't get dumped or fired ever EVERYONE else is the loser not her...........

Edited August 9, 2018 by Keywestclubkid

[SunnyBeBe]

8 hours ago, UsernameFatigue said:

While I didn't particularly care for Ramona's renos (though an update certainly was needed) I couldn't help think when Lu was making her snide remarks that at least Ramona didn't steal from her child(ren) to finance her home/renos. 

I really hope this is the last season that we have to hear Lu sing (badly) that horrible song, "Money Can't Buy You Class". It can't buy you the ability to sing, either. 

Geez, Carole can't even wear a tracksuit without looking ridiculous. I can't remember if I have noticed before how little chemistry there is between Carole and Adam. None. Nada. They look like and relate like they are an aunt and nephew. One thing that I did find interesting though. Several episodes back Carole mentioned (can't remember to who) that she would be hurt if Adam went out with someone else, even though they were no longer together. I think she called it disrespectful. That made no sense to me since they were not together. Then someone mentioned that Adam was dating someone that he had created 'sexy salads' with. There are lots of pictures on his instagram of this woman. They have also made some sophomoric videos together. So it all made sense when Carole made a reference to sexy salads when talking to Adam in this epi. It was a rather snide remark, so I took from that that the sexy salad lady is the one Adam was dating, and Carole was upset as Adam was working with her when he was dating Carole. Just a guess but it seems to fit. 

I thought Carol's outfit was perfect for the occasion.  And, if you're really thin, I would imagine it's hard to get things that hug you that well. Ramona must have had a date afterwards.  She just can't let down the sexy. lol

 I thought it was nice that Adam was present. He seemed to be the one enamored with Carol, not the other way around. But, to be a couple who have split, they were fine. I felt that Adam was into her, but, her not into him.  He wants her, regardless of who he might be seeing, imo.  Carol, isn't in to him and was trying to not hurt his feelings or embarrass him on camera.  I thought the sexy salad was a reference to something in the book or photos that they did together, but, it doesn't matter.  Carol could be back with Adam if she wanted, imo, but, she doesn't.  She seems to have made that clear to him, in a nice way.  Like she said, she doesn't destroy people when she breaks up with them.  Carol's not the ball buster, like some other people on the show. lol 

[noveltylibrary]

11 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

Were there any tears when Tins was crying? I didn’t see any. So many of these HW’s dry eye cry. 

I think her Phantom of the Opera eyeshadow soaks them up

[Ms Blue Jay]

11 hours ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

She sort of decorated the way she dresses; if it's current and in a catalog, she buys it, whether or not it looks good and works for the space/body.

Re: Ramona,

Totally get what you're saying, but I thought it looked really nice, and it made her happy and proud, and I don't know why Luann had to be such a B about it.

Somebody, maybe Bethenny, mentioned Dorinda's "blue eyes"?  Are those Dorinda's real colour?  They were especially vibrant.

I agree, Bethenny's apartment is to die for.  I was dying.  

Edited August 9, 2018 by Ms Blue Jay

[SunnyBeBe]

I did think that Tinsley was upset at what Carol said about her past causing her to not react as strongly during the boat incident.  I am a Carol fan, but, I do think it was a bit much to say that on air.  HOWEVER, as I thought about it.......I think she might be right. And, that's because, I could relate.  I really thought about the analogy that Carol gave and it made sense to me.  I had posted over on Ship Happens about how I related to what Tinsley said about the boat incident.  Because, I could. I've been on plenty bumpy water and never got freaked out, but, when I think about it and how everyone else on their boat nightmare saw it differently than Tinsley....it got me to thinking. Maybe, I have more in common with Tinsley than I realize OR maybe not.  

I want to know what kind of person(s) are going to want to rent Sonja's apartment.....I'd like to see some interviews with them.  It might be pretty funny. 

[Keywestclubkid]

3 minutes ago, SunnyBeBe said:

 

I want to know what kind of person(s) are going to want to rent Sonja's apartment.....I'd like to see some interviews with them.  It might be pretty funny. 

Apparently people into scat lol Just Imagine that place if she didn't have Bravo it would totally be gray gardens by now....

[BodhiGurl]

Bethenny never really had any issue with Sonja until the Tipsy Girl situation, clearly they've moved on from it. Sonja may be latching on to BF for job security but at least their scenes are fairly lighthearted.

Ramona - bringing up supporting women is laughable, does she mean supporting women the way she supported Jill Zarin and Jill's Kodak affiliation? Or how she supported Alex in the early days (before Ramona had her true renewal of herself). Or was it when she went off on Bethenny on the Brooklyn bridge long before those two had any issues? Or maybe it was when, out of nowhere, she brought up Bethenny's d-list krap soft porn-ish horror movie from many many moons ago. Or was it when she went on and on about Kelly's boobs? Yeah. I'm not surprised at all that BF is not supporting Ramona - and Ramona shouldn't be surprised either. Yawn.
 

Did Adam have marbles in his mouth when he went to his Aunt Carole's shin dig? That totally seemed scripted, was sorely lacking in affection, and awkward to watch. Maybe he was fulfilling his boyfriend for hire contract. And Heather showing up - where has Heather been all along since she left? Carole drops BF as her show BF and now Heather is back making "friend of Carole" appearances? I don't see Heather coming back on the show. There were moments of hers while she was on the show where I didn't mind her much but overall - she's a bit much. Too aggressive for my tastes. But, just my opinion.

[Keywestclubkid]

7 minutes ago, BodhiGurl said:

Bethenny never really had any issue with Sonja until the Tipsy Girl situation, clearly they've moved on from it. Sonja may be latching on to BF for job security but at least their scenes are fairly lighthearted.
 

I have to disagree Beth never really wanted anything to do with her she thought she was crazy she said that before the fight and after that Sonja is bat shit crazy (yes she did go to a meeting with Sonja but i think that was more our of curiosity about how she acts in a business setting then it was to really help her) the only reason she is hanging with her now is because she has no one else left other then Luann and we all know if you cant film with the girls you get cut even someone as tv savvy has Beth knows her apple would be gone if she cant film with someone and seeing how every show she was on tanks with out the housewives and she has no way to promote her skinny girl shit and get those checks with out this show she is holding on to dear life to that apple

Edited August 9, 2018 by Keywestclubkid

[CrinkleCutCat]

Property Manager lady is not doing Sonja any favours by agreeing to holding out for her preferred rent. Nor is she doing herself any commission favours! Drop the price and 1 get Sonja a tenant and rent, and 2 get yourself commission! It’s such a fallacy that you can ‘hold out’ until you get the price you want... NO... you have to meet the market where it is and accept what people are prepared to pay for your property. (Australian here....might be different elsewhere but this is my language!)

[CrinkleCutCat]

Carole and Adam: Carole saying no to coffee as she now drinks tea sounded like she was saying no more booty calls for you Adam! Carole labeled their sexy time hook ups post their break up as ‘having coffee’.

[SunnyBeBe]

6 minutes ago, CrinkleCutCat said:

Property Manager lady is not doing Sonja any favours by agreeing to holding out for her preferred rent. Nor is she doing herself any commission favours! Drop the price and 1 get Sonja a tenant and rent, and 2 get yourself commission! It’s such a fallacy that you can ‘hold out’ until you get the price you want... NO... you have to meet the market where it is and accept what people are prepared to pay for your property. (Australian here....might be different elsewhere but this is my language!)

So true, but, I think that Sonja may live in lala land.  It might take a while for the reality to hit her that her place won't bring as much as she thinks it will.  But, if she isn't in a hurry to rent it.....I suppose that she can just sit on it and keep keeping things clean...lol, in hopes that a willing renter will miraculously turn up. 

[jaybird2]

10 hours ago, LilaFowler said:

Doris is one of the worst offenders of that. She's sitting in Bethenny's new apartment, kissing her ass and gushing over the place, and in about 30 minutes we'll see her shit-talking Bethenny to Carole. She really is the epitome of a 'frenemy.' It's crazy how before this season started, she was maybe my fave housewife on this series and now I can't stand the sight of her.

I mean, at least Bethenny does interesting things (not just meals) with people: the lipstick making thing with Lu, the jeans factory thing with Sonja, the apartment with Doris. She at least organizes things. What would she do with Ramona (who hates her), Carole (who hates her) or Tinsley (who is a vapid waste of space with no conversation)?

love, love, loove this last statement.  i've never liked carole but i never thought she would have liked someone as vapid as tinsley.  the carole who prides herself as journalist would never e besties with the likes of tinsley. 

[noveltylibrary]

11 hours ago, ShawnaLanne said:

Are Carole and B really fighting over Snoopy?

Why would B ask Carole to see her apartment? Carole has told her she doesn't like her. F off, Carole.

That was confusing. When she said B told her she 'hit a wall' I took that to mean she's done.  But apparently C thought that meant done fighting?

11 hours ago, stewedsquash said:

As someone who  is growing out a pixie cut, I am seething with envy at Lu's talking head in that red dress and her Freaking Fabulous Growing Her Hair Out Hair!!! 

It took a couple years but with biotin I grew my pixie out--now i want to cut it again haa.. I like Lu with longer hair too

11 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

Poor Heather...again only gets the Heather, Carole's Friend shout out.

Does Bravo not like her?

I don't, so I love it!

[noveltylibrary]

11 hours ago, ShawnaLanne said:

Dorinda, we know you aren't perfect, lol. Sober John is much better.

How any times does he have to ask "Did I do good?" He's like her puppy.  

[Pop Tart]

5 hours ago, ivygirl said:

I had first, fourth, and ninth-hand embarrassment during that scene. Super ballsy of Carole to make that pronouncement. What a horrifying thing to say to a friend, especially while the cameras are rolling. 

Something was off about the Carole/Tinsley therapy session in Carole's apartment. Either it was the editing, with whole chunks of the conversation cut out, very possible. Or, and this is the way I'm leaning now, this was another time that Carole, as supportive friend, brings something out in conversation for her friend to react to without the friend having to be the one to say it.

Carole talking to Tinsley about her abusive ex and Tinsley bursting into sobs - with nary a tear to be seen reminded me of the conversations last season where Bethenny and Carole would be talking and Carole would make mention of some bad thing that Jason had done - something Bethenny wasn't allowed to do on camera (or just was being super careful about). Bethenny could then react in her dramatic way about how her life was just so, so terrible because of what she was going through with Jason, etc.

With Tinsley, I think she has gotten to the point where she wants her past relationship woes to be part of the story, but she's savvy enough to know it wouldn't be cool for her to be the one bad-mouthing the ex. This way she gets the sympathy-card (and I don't dispute that she was in a terrible situation in the past) and the plucky-card all at the same time. I do think Tinsley is ultimately a very shallow person, as are most of the cast, but I don't think she's dumb. I don't like her as a person or character, but I do think she's been calculated enough to play the RH reality show game pretty well. 

[noveltylibrary]

11 hours ago, b2H said:

Good thing the finale is next week.

Half the cast isn’t talking to the other half.  Anyone notice that Bethenny interacted with maybe two cast members tonight?  At least there was no caterwauling from anyone.

Andy said on his radio show the reunion was really good, with everyone coming for B.  I like B but still looking forward to it!

11 hours ago, absolutelyido said:

I thought Luann was incredibly rude about Ramona's remodel. Very neutral and a little sparse, but I thought it looked good. Ramona's house was very dated before, and I think she gave it a nice update. 

Yes Lu did go overboard but I was seriously trying to look for the difference in the first before/after pic. 

[noveltylibrary]

10 hours ago, Bronzedog said:

Every time I hear Adam speak I'm surprised he has enough energy to drink coffee or have sex.  That monotone just makes me want to zzzzzzzzz.

and I could put up with that if he looked like Rob Lowe.. but he doesn't.  Attraction is so weird.

10 hours ago, ShawnaLanne said:

That and don't be so generous at the talk show. We wouldn't want Doris to get less. Jeeze.

Right? I thought how nice~ and she shoots him down for being too generous.

10 hours ago, Neeners said:

This episode was just meh for me. I did chuckle about Sonja and her diaper, though.

agreed I thought it was way too boring for such a late in the season ep.

[janie2002]

Lu is a mean sober, I see the countess coming out. She thinks she can be snotty again because all of a sudden B is on her side. Fawking idiot. 

I'm kinda annoyed she is pissed at Dorinda, but Bethany has slut shamed her, and told her Tom was cheating on camera and she is still licking her ass. 

Plus like someone mentioned, Ramona might not be the best decorator, but at least she isn't stealing from her daughter'w future to keep up appearances. (Or marrying men for a PENTHOUSE)

 

I miss Heather, I liked her because she was a tough cookie and had strong work ethic. I thought it was nice seeing a successful woman that wasn't trying to be high society like the rest.

I LOVE B's apartment. 

Edited August 9, 2018 by janie2002

[Ms Blue Jay]

11 hours ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

Is it in their contracts that they fawn over each other whenever they greet?  I mean, I compliment people, but I don't compliment every button and bow the way these women do.  

I know, I've noticed that!  It feels way too over the top and fake.  They don't always have to do it.  We know that most of these women can't stand each other.

[noveltylibrary]

I've wanted to go to Bite Beauty to make my own shade for awhile, love their lipsticks...But seeing them there I think I'll pass. It used to be $55 for one shade, now they make you get two for $150.  gmafb

[Ms Blue Jay]

11 hours ago, absolutelyido said:

I thought Luann was incredibly rude about Ramona's remodel. Very neutral and a little sparse, but I thought it looked good. Ramona's house was very dated before, and I think she gave it a nice update. 

Totally agree.  If it's for rental, like I think I'm understanding, it's totally fine.  It has to be neutral enough for different people to like enough to rent.

[Mozelle]

4 minutes ago, janie2002 said:

Lu is a mean sober, I see the countess coming out. She thinks she an be snotty again because all of a sudden B is on her side. Fawking idiot. 

I'm kinda annoyed she is pissed at Dorinda, but Bethany has slut shamed her, and told her Tom was cheating on camera and she is still lick her ass. 

Plus like someone mentioned, Ramona might not be the best decorator, but at least she isn't stealing for her daughter future to keep up appearances. (Or marrying men for a PENTHOUSE)

 

I miss Heather, I liked her because she was a tough cookie and had strong work ethic. I thought it was nice seeing a successful woman that wasn't trying to be high society like the rest.

I LOVE B's apartment. 

I liked Bethenny's apartment minus how close the dining table was to the island eating area. I don't know if Bethenny entertains in her home (I really don't get the sense that she throws parties in her home so this may be a moot point I'm bringing up...), but all I could think of was people trying to shimmy their way between the backs of the chairs reserved for the island and the chairs reserved for the side of the table closest to the island. 

I have to wonder how far LuAnn was or would be up Bethenny's tail once she saw that Bethenny's place basically had the same white, light grey, dark grey palette? LuAnn really is too much. She takes a lot of glee in being bitchy but thinks that she isn't or believes that she's a forgiving person. She isn't. She and Ramona have been frenemies for a long long while now; nothing will change that. 

I will not every forget how giddy LuAnn was when that Moroccan fortune teller telling Ramona that Mario was with her but thinking of another woman. 

Edited August 9, 2018 by Mozelle

[SuprSuprElevated]

6 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Btw, does Columbia have a night school?  Or maybe an online version?  OK, so Kelly & Tinz BOTH went to "Columbia"?  Or maybe Topper went there & she got the t-shirt in the divorce settlement?  Something doesn't seem right here.

The silly girl affect to me, is just that.  Either there is or she thinks there is, a payoff for it.  If this is the worst we ever get from Tins, I can live with it.  Perhaps her character on this show will develop further, and if it does, I hope she doesn't lose what I see as someone who doesn't have an axe to grind (there are already axes aplenty in NYC), and appears to be a nice person.  I know!  What a concept!  

[ShawnaLanne]

18 minutes ago, Pop Tart said:

Something was off about the Carole/Tinsley therapy session in Carole's apartment. Either it was the editing, with whole chunks of the conversation cut out, very possible. Or, and this is the way I'm leaning now, this was another time that Carole, as supportive friend, brings something out in conversation for her friend to react to without the friend having to be the one to say it.

Carole talking to Tinsley about her abusive ex and Tinsley bursting into sobs - with nary a tear to be seen reminded me of the conversations last season where Bethenny and Carole would be talking and Carole would make mention of some bad thing that Jason had done - something Bethenny wasn't allowed to do on camera (or just was being super careful about). Bethenny could then react in her dramatic way about how her life was just so, so terrible because of what she was going through with Jason, etc.

With Tinsley, I think she has gotten to the point where she wants her past relationship woes to be part of the story, but she's savvy enough to know it wouldn't be cool for her to be the one bad-mouthing the ex. This way she gets the sympathy-card (and I don't dispute that she was in a terrible situation in the past) and the plucky-card all at the same time. I do think Tinsley is ultimately a very shallow person, as are most of the cast, but I don't think she's dumb. I don't like her as a person or character, but I do think she's been calculated enough to play the RH reality show game pretty well. 

That makes the most sense. I do not like Carole this season. Her glee at Lu's arrest and then faux buddying up to her, her constant complaining, and she's needlessly cruel. But this seemed cold for even her.

[SunnyBeBe]

I did like Ramona's redo too.  It was nice to see her get more contemporary.  I think that is difficult sometimes, when someone has  grown accustomed to what they think is upscale and classic. It often conveys as old and dated.  Of course, flowers are nice, like Lu said, but, that's an easy fix. 

[noveltylibrary]

10 hours ago, scoobie1 said:

what was she supposed to say to her though? I'm so sorry I didn't call? 

I doubt B calls her for anything these days after the last phone call to Ramona ended with her Screaming at her about her lack of support of other women.  

I like B but I thought it was awful she didn't acknowledge R's party.

[TV Diva Queen]

46 minutes ago, CrinkleCutCat said:

Carole and Adam: Carole saying no to coffee as she now drinks tea sounded like she was saying no more booty calls for you Adam! Carole labeled their sexy time hook ups post their break up as ‘having coffee’.

I took it as "sure and I'll tea bag you too"  [I'll see myself out]

27 minutes ago, noveltylibrary said:

Andy said on his radio show the reunion was really good, with everyone coming for B.  I like B but still looking forward to it!

Yes Lu did go overboard but I was seriously trying to look for the difference in the first before/after pic. 

So was I!!  I had to rewind because a couple rooms looks pretty much the same.  I did like Lu's "reveal?  revealing."  I like Lu

[Ms Blue Jay]

10 hours ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

She says "noted".  aka idgaf

Re:  Bethenny

Okay that's really funny.  That reminds me of Larry David on Curb Your Enthusiasm.  Somebody usually screams at him about something or other and he responds "Duly noted."  LOL.  

[SuprSuprElevated]

3 minutes ago, noveltylibrary said:

I like B but I thought it was awful she didn't acknowledge R's party.

I don't think those two have much regard for each other, and are having a hard time faking it for the cameras.  Did Ramona go to the SG jeans launch?  I don't remember what they were arguing about when Ramona was filmed on the phone with B while walking her dog.  If that was it, that Ramona didn't attend that event, then I'm sure Bethenny's absence from Ramona's pro-death anti-aging skin care gig was retribution.

[Ms Blue Jay]

7 hours ago, biakbiak said:

I absolutely hate the trend of having a huge island with seating and then right behind it having a large dining table, it’s way too many chairs to close to each other for me and it bugs the hell out of me. I realize because it’s now a common trend I might be alone in hating this layout.

I religiously watch Love it or List it Vancouver, and while I love the show and the hosts, they redecorate every house the exact same way and everyone dies for this huge island trend.  LOL.  I don't really get it either.  I think the theory is, for the family, and for entertaining, you can have everyone sitting around on an island OR you can go over to your formal dinner room.  They always say you can have the kids doing homework on the island during non-dinner times.  I understand this all sounds very pretentious but that's the "theory" behind it.  Not saying I get it either!  I really did love Beth's place though, personally, I loved the decor, everything about it.

[Ms Blue Jay]

4 hours ago, queenjen said:

Carole is looking down the barrel of 60. She seems to be dealing with this by fulfilling some kind of bucket list: young guys, decorate apartment, run marathon, get into fashion, don't become Ramona. Bethenny is still grinding. Bethenny is composed of 100% nervous energy, she works and parties and shops hard. She's a LOT. Carole, on the other hand, does pretty much nothing. She ran the marathon and she wrote an article for Cosmopolitan. She didn't fulfil her book deadline, and I don't think she will. Getting optioned a second time probably occurred due to the hard work of her publishing house, not Carole's effort. It's a great windfall for her if it happens, but option 1 didn't pan out, so I wouldn't be holding my breath. Carole is drifting and Bethenny continues frenetic. I'm not a cheerleader for Beth, I see her as a really broken hurt human being, but she is genuinely perplexed about Carole's cooling off. She's hurt. Carole is functioning better in Tinsley's lane at present, which isn't something I could ever see Bethenny aspire to. I think Bethenny really thought Carole was a close family friend and now Carole has friend hopped to Tinz. Some people do that. And Carole seems to want to relive her youth while she still can at present, she's just not there emotionally for Bethenny and she doesn't care. It's hard. It's a bit painful to watch, especially as Bethenny resorts to her child ego state when she's hurt like this: continuing to talk about Carole when she must have known she was there last episode, the whining and the crying etc. I still feel for her though. Her apartments always feel empty to me, no matter how beautiful and expensive they are. Except for the one she originally filmed in, that looked lived in and chaotic and warm. 

 

Carrie Bradshaw and Miranda Hobbes?  LOL.  Carrie and Miranda had a big fight when Carrie wanted to flit off to Paris to be on the arm of Petrovsky - not that I blamed her one bit.  Miranda is harsh and judgemental and controlling and wants everything a certain way - and hey, I love her too.  Yeah, they're just different.  (I know this is not a perfect comparison, but the comparisons between Carole and Carrie were so funny because Carole actually DOES spend all of her time doing nothing and sporadically writing an article!  And hey, no way in hell would Carrie Bradshaw every run a marathon, so point for Carole I guess!)

Edited August 9, 2018 by Ms Blue Jay

[RHJunkie]

Luann was really petty and mean girl while discussing Ramona's place with Bethenny even though I also wasn't impressed with Ramona's house - it wasn't my taste. Firstly, I thought she was renovating the entire house but aside from the kitchen, everything was exactly the same just with different furniture and maybe a fresh coat of paint. Even the layout of the furniture she kept the same in all of the rooms. There were no interesting focal walls, playing with textures in each room and overall, it was a little too sterile for me with all of the neutral colours and sleek finishes. I like a bit more rustic, especially if it's a getaway home. That said, Ramona loved the new look and that's what matters. Lu was showing her Countess attitude. Please stop.

The women talking about their diarrhea still was just too much and the need to revisit what their stains looked like was just beyond. It was about enough that they showed it the first time. The fact that Sonja wears a diaper every time she travels because it's better than using an airplane bathroom, that's just fucking gross. I think the average person who wears an wear adult diaper isn't doing so because they choose to sit in their own soil. Also, showing up to someone else's promotional party to promote your own separate product is rude. I'm surprised that Ramona, with how unhinged she can be, gave Sonja any floor time to peddle her shoes, lol. Sonja keeps talking about her fabulous life - well use some of your fabulous money and throw your own products!

The amenities in Bethenny's new place are pretty amazing. I'd love to have a closet that big! Speaking of Bethenny, she needs to stop talking about this Carole situation. Bethenny is such a broken human being and while that doesn't excuse her behaviour toward others, it seems obvious to me that her aggressiveness and meanness is because Bethenny doesn't know how to deal with rejection in a healthy way. Bethenny is neurotic. Her pace of lifestyle is frantic which seems pretty contrary to how Carole seems to live her life. It does seem to make sense that Tinsley would be better suited for Carole because Tinsley is more laid back like Carole but Bethenny turns that into some kind of bonding between the two because they don't have jobs, responsibilities or ambition so they have a lot in common because Bethenny feels rejected by the fact that Carole would spend any of her free time with Tinsley when Bethenny is available. I've seen enough of Bethenny's destructive behaviour to believe that I don't think she fully comprehends that she's doing it and to what magnitude she does it. As more information unravels and the more the two are interacting face to face, the more I give credit to the way Carole has handled the situation (though in their THs, both are shady as fuck to each other).

The Luann/Dorinda thing once again makes me feel like we're missing some information. From tidbits of what both of them have said and what Lu mentioned in this episode, I feel that Dorinda may have confided in her about her own penchant for drinking or that she doesn't like how she can get when she's drunk. Maybe it was said in a moment of honesty and not as a cry for help by Dorinda to have Lu keep her in check. Or maybe Rehab Lu is calling out Dorinda on her behaviour because her drinking isn't fun and wild like a Sonja or Ramona but instead, is really mean and aggressive.

[Jel]

1 hour ago, CrinkleCutCat said:

Carole and Adam: Carole saying no to coffee as she now drinks tea sounded like she was saying no more booty calls for you Adam! Carole labeled their sexy time hook ups post their break up as ‘having coffee’.

Yes, definitely.  But the addition of the "I only drink tea now", with what I thought was a nod and a wink between them, and in light of the recent Blind Item, made me wonder if there was another level of meaning.  If it weren't for the Blind Item I probably wouldn't have noticed it. 
 

[SuprSuprElevated]

Comment about Sawnya's flip attitude re Depends moved to Small Talk.

Edited August 9, 2018 by SuprSuprElevated

[StevieRocks]

10 hours ago, breezy424 said:

Yeah, like Beth's fairytale with her cold cut line with Smithfield?  Beth isn't supportive of other women especially when it comes to business endeavors.  How many pretend parties has Beth have?

Exactly. "Bethenny Bakes" comes to mind...as well as her time as a "chef." She threw enough against the wall, and eventually, something stuck. God forbid anyone else enjoy a modicum of success. I think Moaner is a tiresome idiot and an insufferable, waste of space hag; nevertheless, Bethenny sounds particularly nasty and hypocritical calling others' endeavors, "fairy tales."

[Boofish]

Watching Bethenny and Carol's friendship implode and the absolute glee and pleasure the other women are having soaking it all in is extremely uncomfortable to watch. 

[TV Diva Queen]

49 minutes ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

Re:  Bethenny

Okay that's really funny.  That reminds me of Larry David on Curb Your Enthusiasm.  Somebody usually screams at him about something or other and he responds "Duly noted."  LOL.  

bethany's "noted" was Gold!  as was Ramona's walking away with a deranged look on her  face.

[Juliegirlj]

Didn’t Luann rent a furnished apartment? Who is she to criticize Ramona on her new decor?!

I think Carole and Adam actually love each other but want different things in their lives ( kids). Kinda sad.

[Keywestclubkid]

18 minutes ago, Boofish said:

Watching Bethenny and Carol's friendship implode and the absolute glee and pleasure the other women are having soaking it all in is extremely uncomfortable to watch. 

esp with Luann and Sonja its like they are chomping at the bits to be her new BFF suddenly the mean girls come out full force again like Beth being nice to them now means greenlight to be mean because Beth wont be attacking them like she used to  (looking at you Luann all the sudden your past deeds dont matter and you are queen of class again? lets pull up that mugshot lady) and its ok cause Bethany is their friend now shes on their side ...**eye roll*** it does kinda show just what sheep they are tho but hey we all knew that

Edited August 9, 2018 by Keywestclubkid

[psychoticstate]

So Carole is continuing her tour of shading B at every chance she gets.  We get it, Carole - - we're not as gullible as sexy salad Adam.  You hate B and you're very passive aggressive about letting it be known.  Shut up.  And your "dressy" jogging suit was ridiculous.  No worries, your trophy for Worst Dressed Ho-wife is still safe.  We know how you love your trophies.

LuAnn was snarky about Ramona's redecorating but God, she's funny.  When she said "cop to" something and then caught herself -- gold.  And she really looks good when she's got her hair casually - - or "casually" -- pulled back.

I'm totally jealous over B's apartment.  That closet.  Heaven.  

Ramona's haircut suits her.

Loved Sonja showing up at Ramona's event with her shoes and handing them out.  Lu's reaction seemed genuine, which was nice.  Of course Sonja didn't bring judgy haters Dorinda and Carole shoes.  Dorinda would get drunk and either throw a shoe at someone or step out of them in a gutter; Carole would have to bedazzle them or put feathers on them or something and then wear them with her "dressy" jogging suit because she's so "trendy."  

So was that jogging suit thing worn at a party celebrating the fact that Carole actually wrote something?  Like, by herself?  Without a ghostwriter?  And not about Adam's sexy salads?  And did she get a trophy for it?   Sorry, I was half watching.  (Not sorry, really.)  

So Dorinda bitches at Sonja about using the Morgan name and talking about Mr. Morgan but does Dorinda EVER stop talking about Richard?  John seems skeevy and all but I'd be pissed if I were him and talking about how long they had been dating and Dorinda compares it to how long she was with Richard.  Okay, Dorinda.  We get it.  We know about Richard.  I really hope that Sonja nails her on that at the reunion - - or somebody does.

Next week is the last epi?  Damn.

[islandgal140]

So let me get this straight - Sonja would rather wallow in her own filthy diaper on the Jitney rather than use the bathroom bus? What lucky passengers to share a bus ride with her.  OK Depends, Imma need y'all to hurry up and give Sonja a spokeswoman contract because she is living that life more than Lisa Rinna ever has.

 

Get money bitch!