"The View": Week Of 5/21/2018

[Haleth]

10 minutes ago, maggiemae said:

Joy very recently gave Trump credit for something and made sure everyone understood that. Unfortunately I can't remember what it was.

It was for getting the 3 hostages released from North Korea.

[Coffeewinewater]

The hostages  released from North Korea. 

Sorry already answered. 

Edited May 24, 2018 by Coffeewinewater

[Gemma Violet]

3 minutes ago, Haleth said:

It was for getting the 3 hostages released from North Korea.

Yes, that was it.

 

7 minutes ago, Ohboy said:

I’m pretty sure it was something stupid and Joy was likely making a joke of it. 

No, she didn't make a joke.  She seriously gave him credit for it.

[maggiemae]

Yes, that was it - and everyone on the panel sincerely agreed with Joy, as did I.

[Ohboy]

Yes. You’re right.

[Tosia]

When Ana or an intelligent, well spoken conservative is on the show,  there is more than enough time for her to speak concisely and calmly and with civility /manners about any topic.

 MM' s incoherent word salads, lies, and hand-picked, skewed stats make her a waste of everyone's time. 

Above all, Ana or Paula, or  other conservatives are mature about disagreements and even, even with fucking humor to agree to disagree. 

Edited May 24, 2018 by Tosia
She's a waste of time and doing her tribe no favors.

[Cindyluwho]

Never mind.

Edited May 24, 2018 by Cindyluwho
Should have read the rest of the thread before replying!

[Medicine Crow]

3 hours ago, Wings said:

It wasn't here in MT.  I just watched it.  I love Whoopi today! 

It was in my "neck of the woods" (Calgary).

[merriebreeze]

Sunny speaks her piece on protests and the national anthem:

https://twitter.com/TheView/status/999792841244192769

 

Maybe a better link here:

Edited May 24, 2018 by merriebreeze

[blondiec0332]

1 hour ago, Ohboy said:

When you are the lone conservative on the panel you should get about 50% of the airtime. The other 50% should be dedicated to the rest of the liberal panelists. 

And who made that rule? This isn't Crossfire.  The original premise of the View was different women at different points of their lives discussing the topics of the day.

[Wings]

11 minutes ago, Medicine Crow said:

It was in my "neck of the woods" (Calgary).

It WAS on here.  Autocorrect.  I really must proofread. 

[TheGreenKnight]

3 hours ago, blondiec0332 said:

On youtube it was only edited out of certain uploads.  My guess is whoever is doing the uploading is censoring their own uploads.  I have noticed on certain View uploads the comments are more Meghan friendly.  

So, reality distortion, basically? Make her look less like an entitled brat who thinks she's above the rest of the panel and that she's more popular online and with the audience than she is. Interesting behavior from The View.... I've never written in to ABC before--although I came close during Whoopi's behavior with Rosie O/Paula--but that's the zone I'm in now. This isn't appropriate behavior for any show, or workplace for that matter.

[TheGreenKnight]

4 hours ago, Ohboy said:

To me, it would be nice if the conversations on the show were more balanced and objective. There is no middle.

In my opinion, this statement is false in two ways. For one, Sara is a moderate. I'd also call Sunny a left-leaning moderate. For another thing, the goal of the show is to have women from different backgrounds giving their View, not split the table in half according to politics. Joy, Sunny, Sara, and Whoopi all come from vastly different backgrounds. That's what The View is and has always been, and it shouldn't change just to please Meghan McCain. If she can't stand the back-and-forth on this show, she should get a new job.

[deirdra]

10 hours ago, CheezyXpressed said:

Meghan....I don't know why she acted like this. She cuts off everyone. I still don't mind her as much as others, but I hate when she gets like that and pulls a tantrum.

Next time MMM cuts off Sunny or Joy, they should mimick her nasal whiney voice saying "I'm still talking.  I'm still talking.  I'm still talking", using up more time so that nobody can talk.  In real conversations everyone gets to talk and nobody reads cards written by her husband in a monotone that would be sleep-inducing if not for the high volume of screeching.

Edited May 25, 2018 by deirdra

[merriebreeze]

Ohboy, a conservative voice is fine. It's when that voice just happens to regurgitate faux talking points recited from blue cards or falls back on "my dying father is a hero and nobody can question anything I say ever" that alienates a large portion of the audience. I think Whoopi is alienating as well with her intros and when she assumes she speaks for all blacks or all celebs.

[LoveIsJoy]

What upsets me most about Meghan's reaction to the players kneeling, is that she acts as if ONLY white, conservative, red-state, tribal people are military members, vets, or police officers.  As if they are the sole province of where patriotism resides, and that they have collectively decided that the only proper and tolerable behavior when the National Anthem is played is to stand and salute the flag.  Has she no knowledge of history--and even recent events--where black men fought valiantly for our country and came home to be treated like garbage and second-class citizens  for "living-while-black?"  How can she not comprehend this?  Does she not understand the value of civil disobedience in a democracy?

My husband is a 15 year Navy veteran, and my cousin just recently retired (30 years!) from the Marines.  Both are black men and have given their service and put their lives on the line for this country.  Yet, my husband got pulled over by the cops for a minor traffic violation, and he said they had their hands on their guns as they approached the vehicle.  Oh, and called for back-up.  He explained he was tired from working a 12-hour IT shift, and missed the traffic sign.  Luckily things didn't escalate, but it's scary to think what could have happened with the wrong officer.

Years ago, I remember being furious at George Stephanopolous in an interview with Obama during his first Presidential campaign.  George (with a straight face) asked Obama if he believed that Rev. Jeremiah Wright "loved America," simply because of the outcry that Rev. Wright complained about the U.S. during one of his sermons.  The reverend was a veteran!  He put his life on the line for this country.  Whether you agreed with what he said or not, he surely had a right to say it freely.  One poster up thread said it best, the mindset seems to be, if you have problems with America, then you don't love America.  Go back to Africa. 

Neither my husband nor my cousin has an issue with the players kneeling for the national anthem in protest.  Meghan acts like because she has family members who served, and she has flags and Presidential memorabilia in every room of her home, that her opinion on the matter is the only one that counts.  She is the true patriot, by proxy.

For the record, as a black, retired vet, my husband doesn't stand for the National Anthem out of protest.  As a black woman I do stand, sing, and salute the flag, to honor my ancestors' fortitude and sacrifice to attain civil rights in a country that they helped build, yet treated them as second-class citizens.  Even those who served militarily were often met with terrorism, injustice, violence, and daily microaggressions,   We each have our different reasons and experiences for how we approach the issue.  I cannot for the life of me understand why Meghan McCain thinks that there is only one true way to be a patriotic American.

[Medicine Crow]

^^^^  x 1000  ^^^^  Well said ... cuts right to the core!!!

[Former Nun]

11 hours ago, blondiec0332 said:

I am physically ill the NFL capitulated about the kneeling.  Guess I won't be watching football anymore.  I can't watch a sport where the players are treated like property.  I don't understand how an employer can punish an employee for doing something that is legal. And that is the argument they are using to justify this.  That the players are employees.

Last year, several players used the word "slavery."

[Apprentice79]

3 minutes ago, Former Nun said:

Last year, several players used the word "slavery."

One owner actually called the football players prison inmates...He had to apologize for that vile statement..

[Former Nun]

11 hours ago, blondiec0332 said:

And the same way he went after President Obama for making a joke at his expense.

Donald Trump can't remember what he says/tweets from one moment to the next, yet he recalls every perceived insult for decades...and plans revenge.

 

5 hours ago, Ohboy said:

When you are the lone conservative on the panel you should get about 50% of the airtime. The other 50% should be dedicated to the rest of the liberal panelists. 

Remember the old joke, "That's what she said!"?

[Former Nun]

10 hours ago, blondiec0332 said:

Will the posters who watch it in later time zones let us know if it is edited out of their broadcasts?

I haven't watched it yet (8:41pm on Thursday) and will try to remember to report.

[GiveMeSpace]

Y'all. Meghan McCain was batshit on today's episode of The View, but have you seen her post on Twitter about her wedding song? Surely she is trolling us all?

https://twitter.com/MeghanMcCain/status/999840654460153857/video/1

[Fannysue]

9 hours ago, LakeGeorg said:

It's kind of a drag to watch now.  It's not a fun and lighthearted show anymore.  They had such great chemistry with Jed.  Is DaughterofMcCain (because that's the only reason this "bad-assed chick" is on the show) really that much of a coup?

I so agree.  The show no longer is fun to watch.

[gatopretoNYC]

I think what got Meagan extra agitated was that the audience was applauding Sunny's statement.

[geekburger]

The worst moment of the discussion was when Sara was explaining her stance on standing vs why some people next to her might not and that’s ok. It makes her feel more proud of her Country. And then MM very condescendingly asked Sara if she’s actually ever done that..catching Sara (and presumably) everyone else off guard. That just seemed kinda mean. 

Edited May 25, 2018 by geekburger

[blondiec0332]

6 hours ago, gatopretoNYC said:

I think what got Meagan extra agitated was that the audience was applauding Sunny's statement.

If what you are saying isn't getting a good response from your audience you do one of two things.  You change what you are doing or you find a different audience.  Pouting and chastising the audience isn't going to do you any favors.  Meghan isn't cut out for a live talk show.  Or any talk show.  Maybe she could find a home on a conservative radio show or something.  For all her declarations she just wants people to understand her tribe I think she just wants people to agree with her.  If her goal is to bring people over to her side she is failing miserably.

[LIMOM]

The executive producer Brian Teta is doing a disservice to the network and the public at large.

Is he still in charge?

While MMC was hired to up the ratings, it is uncomfortable to watch and too divisive for ABC’s brand.

The rational thing to do, would be for Meagan to go on a leave of absence as she is not mentally and intellectually fit to fulfill her duty as an host, imo.

yes, she spew horrible rhetoric however she is a human being.

The choice of hiring her was a terrible mistake which is reinforcing her mythic within her cohort and whomever will have the nerves (I suspect Whoopi) to stand up to her bullshit will pay greatly.

Imho, Her hiring was a lose-lose proposition.

As far as the censoring on YouTube, it is common practice. No big deal. 

[RHJunkie]

8 hours ago, GiveMeSpace said:

Y'all. Meghan McCain was batshit on today's episode of The View, but have you seen her post on Twitter about her wedding song? Surely she is trolling us all?

https://twitter.com/MeghanMcCain/status/999840654460153857/video/1

Are you effing kidding me? LOL. Like I said before, I do find her brand of 'patriotism' to be really unhealthy and honestly, more than a bit weird.

[TheGreenKnight]

3 hours ago, geekburger said:

The worst moment of the discussion was when Sara was explaining her stance on standing vs why some people next to her might not and that’s ok. It makes her feel more proud of her Country. And then MM very condescendingly asked Sara if she’s actually ever done that..catching Sara (and presumably) everyone else off guard. That just seemed kinda mean. 

Yes, and Sara looked like she was trying not to get angry in her response. When even "the nice one" is gritting her teeth having to deal with you, Meh-gun, you know you're an asshole.

[blondiec0332]

18 minutes ago, RHJunkie said:

8 hours ago, GiveMeSpace said:

Y'all. Meghan McCain was batshit on today's episode of The View, but have you seen her post on Twitter about her wedding song? Surely she is trolling us all?

https://twitter.com/MeghanMcCain/status/999840654460153857/video/1

Are you effing kidding me? LOL. Like I said before, I do find her brand of 'patriotism' to be really unhealthy and honestly, more than a bit weird.

Even Uncle Sam isn't as "patriotic" as Meghan.

[hisbunkie]

Quote

Joy very recently gave Trump credit for something and made sure everyone understood that. Unfortunately I can't remember what it was.

Yes, it was for the release of the three captured men in North Korea.

On the other hand, although trump was credited, no one brought up the specifics of which men had been captured while trump was in office. That’s the classy fact for me.  

I think of the civility issue every time I hear Stormy Daniels being identified as a “Porn Star” but Leean Tweeden’s pastas a Hooter Girl and multi Playboy Centerfolder is somewhat forgotten.  It’s the hypocrisy that exhausting. 

[Kenz]

Do you think that Meghan's contract will be renewed? I'm thinking that they know she is a terrible fit for the show, but due to her father's precarious situation, they may not want to upset her because she is emotionally fragile. I'm afraid that we might be stuck with her for another season.

[blondiec0332]

4 minutes ago, Kenz said:

Do you think that Meghan's contract will be renewed? I'm thinking that they know she is a terrible fit for the show, but due to her father's precarious situation, they may not want to upset her because she is emotionally fragile. I'm afraid that we might be stuck with her for another season.

As morbid as this sounds I think she will remain on the View as long as her father is still alive.

[Kenz]

3 minutes ago, blondiec0332 said:

As morbid as this sounds I think she will remain on the View as long as her father is still alive.

Agreed, Blondie, but how will it look if he passes away and they then don't renew her contract? Then it will look like they were using her just for her connection to her father. I think the producers are in a bad situation. Or maybe they like the constant conflict she produces, and they are all for the ratings she may be helping.

[Tosia]

15 minutes ago, Kenz said:

Do you think that Meghan's contract will be renewed? I'm thinking that they know she is a terrible fit for the show, but due to her father's precarious situation, they may not want to upset her because she is emotionally fragile. I'm afraid that we might be stuck with her for another season.

I don't think the powers that be give a fuck about Meh-gun's dad or her.  They're business people and are in it for the ratings /ad money. 

Similar to the NFL owners--they bowed down to the sponsors-so-white for $,

Frankly, new people will watch the Spew when dad passes because the Spew will get major political guests who will tongue bathe Miss Snowflake and she will cry and hug and bask in the attention.  I think we're stuck with her for another contract year, and then, if there is a God/Goddess we will be released from her stupidity and ill-manners.

Then, MM will "write" a book about being her father's daughter, and then, another book about privileged, white, super rich families struggling with cancer.  She will go on tour and visit the Spew and totally diss--with a sharky smile--the other women for not being nicer to her.

Edited May 25, 2018 by Tosia

[Kenz]

Tosia, your scenario is totally believable!  She probably will capitalize on everything you mentioned.

[GoldenGirl90]

17 hours ago, Ohboy said:

When you are the lone conservative on the panel you should get about 50% of the airtime. The other 50% should be dedicated to the rest of the liberal panelists. 

Eh. I 100% disagree. Barbara Walters didn't create the show based on the political leanings of the individual co-hosts. Of course they talk about politics but the point of the show is for everyone at the table to give their take on the day's news as women, not as liberals/conservatives/ect.

[Kenz]

10 hours ago, GiveMeSpace said:

Y'all. Meghan McCain was batshit on today's episode of The View, but have you seen her post on Twitter about her wedding song? Surely she is trolling us all?

https://twitter.com/MeghanMcCain/status/999840654460153857/video/1

She probably has that song piped in a continuous loop at her home, along with the Star Spangled Banner and marching songs from John Philip Souza. Then she can wheel around and salute at all of the flags surrounding her.

[Bronzedog]

I really wish they'd rerun some of the older shows.  They have 20+ years of material.  This show was just on.

[Former Nun]

1 hour ago, Tosia said:

Then, MM will "write" a book about being her father's daughter, and then, another book about privileged, white, super rich families struggling with cancer.  She will go on tour and visit the Spew and totally diss--with a sharky smile--the other women for not being nicer to her.

and then, at last...fade into the ether.  Buh-bye!

[blondiec0332]

"Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind."  That is a quote from Albert Einstein.  Might explain Meghan's redness. 

[Former Nun]

3 minutes ago, Wings said:

Meggie has an obsession with patriotism by her personal definition and it isn’t healthy; it is pathological. 

Good thing she has chosen not to have children.  Can you imagine those poor little robots (or as too many say, robuts)?  First, they learn there are only three colors.

[Tosia]

1 hour ago, Kenz said:

She probably has that song piped in a continuous loop at her home, along with the Star Spangled Banner and marching songs from John Philip Souza. Then she can wheel around and salute at all of the flags surrounding her.

I call B.S. on the blatant patriotism decorating/music.

MM is trying mightily to refute her RHINO status (and the slutty persona she put out there herself) from the past ten years.

Plus her new plagiarist hubbie is an unfortunate influence.

[TheGreenKnight]

4 hours ago, Tosia said:

I don't think the powers that be give a fuck about Meh-gun's dad or her.  They're business people and are in it for the ratings /ad money. 

Similar to the NFL owners--they bowed down to the sponsors-so-white for $,

Frankly, new people will watch the Spew when dad passes because the Spew will get major political guests who will tongue bathe Miss Snowflake and she will cry and hug and bask in the attention.  I think we're stuck with her for another contract year, and then, if there is a God/Goddess we will be released from her stupidity and ill-manners.

I know people keep on saying that The View must love this, any attention is good, etc. But I don’t think that’s true. For one, the people behind the scenes seem to be different from the Elisabeth years. They seem to want to put on a good show based on their decision-making the past three years. Moreover, I don’t think they would try to rehab McCain’s image—to the point that they’re editing videos to cover-up her bitchery—if they didn’t care.

I think ABC remembers how she threw a respected employee (Joy) under the bus during the fake Mike Pence-Christian scandal and how she acted when an ABC journalist made a mistake in their reporting last December. That behavior harms more than The View or the specific employees involved, but ABC itself.

[MyAimIsTrue]

Repeat after me:

I will not inject my personal political beliefs here.

I will not talk about general news items here.

I will only talk about the show and not get off topic here.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

[VCRTracking]

For all the Star Trek: The Next Generation fans, my take:

Meghan McCain makes Nora Satie(Jean Simmons) from "The Drumhead" episode look rational!

I can picture her screaming: "I'VE TAKEN DOWN BIGGER WOMEN THAN YOU BE-HAR!!!"

Edited May 25, 2018 by VCRTracking

[lookeyloo]

5 hours ago, Kenz said:

Do you think that Meghan's contract will be renewed? I'm thinking that they know she is a terrible fit for the show, but due to her father's precarious situation, they may not want to upset her because she is emotionally fragile. I'm afraid that we might be stuck with her for another season.

I think as long as she gets the show into any news, they will keep her.  

[Bronzedog]

I think the only reason Meghan was hired is because of her father's precarious situation.

[Wings]

22 minutes ago, Bronzedog said:

I think the only reason Meghan was hired is because of her father's precarious situation.

I don't think so.  They probably tried to get Ana first. 

Elizabeth was on this for around 12 years and she caused plenty of friction.  It was different though. I didn't like her but I don't recall having homicidal thoughts every day.  Maybe I blocked it. 

[Morgalisa]

On 5/24/2018 at 3:11 PM, blondiec0332 said:

It's because she has never faced injustice.  Or I doubt even knows anyone who has.  She herself said she is in her bubble and she is.  She cannot and will not even understand or believe someone else might not have it as easy as her.

She has to be in a very big bubble all by herself.  Her adopted sister is Indian, and has very dark skin. Her brother is married to a Black woman. I'm sure they both have experiences they could share with Meghan if she would choose to listen.