"The View": Week Of 5/21/2018

[Jaded]

Monday, May 21
Mark Salter (co-author along with John McCain, “The Restless Wave: Good Times, Just Causes, Great Fights, and Other Appreciations”) and Teddy Kunhardt (co-producer and director, “John McCain: For Whom the Bell Tolls”); “View Your Deal” with hottest items at affordable prices

Tuesday, May 22
The Political View with former Director of National Intelligence, James Clapper (book, “Facts and Fears: Hard Truths from a Life in Intelligence”); a Broadway surprise

Wednesday, May 23
Michelle Wolf (“The Break with Michelle Wolf”); former “Bachelor” Arie Luyendyk Jr. and his fiancée, Lauren Burnham

Thursday, May 24
Snoop Dogg (“Snoop Presents The Joker’s Wild”; album, “Bible of Love”); Claire Shipman and Katty Kay (book, “The Confidence Code for Girls”)

Friday, May 25 (OAD: 4/17/18) 
Stormy Daniels, joined by her lawyer, Michael Avenatti, sits down with the co-hosts for her first live television interview; Andrew Morton (author, “Meghan: A Hollywood Princess”)

[Haleth]

Interesting line up this week.

[CheezyXpressed]

Monday doesn't really interest me, but Wednesday and Thursday do. Michelle and Snoop will be interesting to see.

[JAYJAY1979]

Monday.. more gushing about Meghan's father to Meghan.  Insert eye roll and preparing my shots to consume on that day.

[GHScorpiosRule]

Please forgive the blasphemy, but what is it with this canonization of McCain? I doubt people would be doing this if he didn’t have cancer.?? Plus that HBO special pimping plugging-He’s still alive. I swear I don’t recall Ted Kennedy getting the same treatment.

I predict Meghan will sit there, preening and soaking in the praise as if she’s the famous one and not her father.

[blondiec0332]

1 hour ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Please forgive the blasphemy, but what is it with this canonization of McCain? I doubt people would be doing this if he didn’t have cancer.?? Plus that HBO special pimping plugging-He’s still alive. I swear I don’t recall Ted Kennedy getting the same treatment.

I predict Meghan will sit there, preening and soaking in the praise as if she’s the famous one and not her father.

No Ted Kennedy didn't get the same treatment.  But he didn't have a daughter on TV five days a week trying to make a name for herself.  Or more accurately trying to make her dad's name for herself.

[OpalNightstream]

McCain also has a heroic back story. So that is a large part of his appeal. Kennedy, on the other hand, had the Chappequa accident following him around. 

[Gemma Violet]

18 hours ago, OpalNightstream said:

McCain also has a heroic back story. So that is a large part of his appeal. Kennedy, on the other hand, had the Chappequa accident following him around. 

I think you mean Chappaquiddick.  (Chappaqua, NY is where the Clintons live.)  But I understand what you're saying.  Ted Kennedy's long career in the Senate was always overshadowed by what happened that night.

[OpalNightstream]

1 hour ago, Gemma Violet said:

I think you mean Chappaquiddick.  (Chappaqua, NY is where the Clintons live.)  But I understand what you're saying.  Ted Kennedy's long career in the Senate was always overshadowed by what happened that night.

Yes that's it! Thanks for the correction 

[ginger90]

[GHScorpiosRule]

director of his documentary about how the senator is opening up about his service, sacrifice,

and legacy like never before.

 

Oh, BROTHER!????

[Vanderboom]

That sound you heard at 11:04 am EST was me rolling my eyes so hard at Meghan feeling weird about the Royal Wedding while having paintings of the Founding Fathers in her home.

11:36 - Meghan: "I was screaming, which I don't normally do . . . "

            Vanderboom: "BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"

Edited May 21, 2018 by Vanderboom
Seriously, Meghan?

[Apprentice79]

1 minute ago, Vanderboom said:

That sound you heard at 11:04 am EST was me rolling my eyes so hard at Meghan feeling weird about the Royal Wedding while having paintings of the Founding Fathers in her home.

Her patriotism is so over the top and nonsensical.  What is so wrong with watching the wedding? An American divorcee of color, just became a Princess, the Duchess of Sussex, to be exact. Megan is such a killjoy...

[Haleth]

4 minutes ago, Vanderboom said:

That sound you heard at 11:04 am EST was me rolling my eyes so hard at Meghan feeling weird about the Royal Wedding while having paintings of the Founding Fathers in her home.

Don't forget flags in every room.

[Tosia]

Debbie Downer is such a fucking drag. 

Besides being rabidly pro-American--which I think MM  is using only to remind everyone who her dad is, because she has no other identity or talents. 

Also, I think she is down on the Royal wedding because when people/media tallk about "Meghan", it will always be about Markle, and deservedly so. 

Edited May 21, 2018 by Tosia

[blondiec0332]

7 minutes ago, Vanderboom said:

That sound you heard at 11:04 am EST was me rolling my eyes so hard at Meghan feeling weird about the Royal Wedding while having paintings of the Founding Fathers in her home.

OMG.  I'm going to have watch this myself.

[GoldenGirl90]

24 minutes ago, Apprentice79 said:

Her patriotism is so over the top and nonsensical.

It's very bizarre. I understand patriotism but hers is on another level.

STOP THE PRESS! Kelly Clarkson owns more guns than Meghan!

*insert major eyeroll*

Edited May 21, 2018 by Alexis2291

[JayD83]

I am so goddamn tired of MM saying that the media and liberals in particular want an out and out repeal of the 2nd Amendment.  SHE IS THE ONLY ONE SAYING THAT!  

[GoldenGirl90]

2 minutes ago, JayD83 said:

I am so goddamn tired of MM saying that the media and liberals in particular want an out and out repeal of the 2nd Amendment.  SHE IS THE ONLY ONE SAYING THAT!  

I’m glad the other ladies put a stop to that. How many times do the ladies have to repeat to Meghan that nobody wants to repeal the Second Amendment?

Edited May 21, 2018 by Alexis2291

[Apprentice79]

1 minute ago, JayD83 said:

I am so goddamn tired of MM saying that the media and liberals in particular want an out and out repeal of the 2nd Amendment.  SHE IS THE ONLY ONE SAYING THAT!  

It is not just her. It is the talking point of her tribe, to distort, deflect and deny the facts.. They believe that the 2nd Amendment is absolute.. 

[GHScorpiosRule]

7 minutes ago, Alexis2291 said:

I understand patriotism but hers is on another level.

I don't think she believes in patriotism; but more in Nationalism, based on her words and "'splanations."

1 minute ago, Alexis2291 said:

I’m glad the other ladies put a stop to that. How many times do the ladies have to repeat to Meghan that nobody wants to repeal the Second Amendment?

Did it work? Or did she just slurp and snap her neck?

[GoldenGirl90]

5 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Did it work? Or did she just slurp and snap her neck?

Of course it didn't work. She says, “I understand BUT…” as she proceeds to say something showing that she doesn’t understand.

[Tosia]

Nationalism v. Patriotism?  Yep, good distinction. 

Such a phoney baloney. 

Edited May 21, 2018 by Tosia

[Bronzedog]

No disrespect to Senator McCain, but, if I was on the panel, I'd be thinking "hey!  I love my father as much as Meghan loves hers, he's as important to me as Meghan's dad is to her" can we get through a day without the show being, at least partially about John McCain?

Also, Meggie?  The number of guns Kelly Clarkson owns has nothing to do with anything.  She's also an extremely likeable person so rather than  looking for something to criticize about her try learning something from her.

[ABitOFluff]

25 minutes ago, Haleth said:

Don't forget flags in every room.

Seriously, WHO DOES THIS?

[blondiec0332]

7 minutes ago, Tosia said:

Nationalism v. Patriotism?  Yep, good distinction. 

This I think is a more accurate definition of what Meghan believes.

jin·go·ism

ˈjiNGɡōˌizəm/

noun

derogatory

noun: jingoism

extreme patriotism, especially in the form of aggressive or warlike foreign policy.

18 minutes ago, JayD83 said:

I am so goddamn tired of MM saying that the media and liberals in particular want an out and out repeal of the 2nd Amendment.  SHE IS THE ONLY ONE SAYING THAT!  

 

16 minutes ago, Apprentice79 said:

It is not just her. It is the talking point of her tribe, to distort, deflect and deny the facts.. They believe that the 2nd Amendment is absolute.. 

This pisses me off to no end.  You can't have a rational discussion with Meghan or her tribe about this.    To paraphrase what I once read in a meme:  When conservatives hear liberals say they want stricter gun control they actually hear confiscate all guns, melt them down and make a statue of Colin Kapernik kneeling.

[CheezyXpressed]

3 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

I don't think she believes in patriotism; but more in Nationalism, based on her words and "'splanations."

The funny part is that being nationalistic is a lot more tribal than being a patriot. 

I didn't watch the royal wedding because I didn't care about it. It's nice that Meghan loves her country, but it's a bit much...

I don't care about the interview about he who shall not be named. I'm sorry and I feel bad for his family, but can we stop talking about him on the show?

I did want more of the shooting topic. Mental illness is one thing, but why is that only reserved for white males? If a Muslim did something, laws would be passed. An immigrant? A wall will be built. But a white male? It must be mental illness.

Edited May 21, 2018 by CheezyXpressed

[GHScorpiosRule]

3 minutes ago, CheezyXpressed said:

The funny part is that being nationalistic is a lot more tribal than being a patriot. 

And Meghan has proven herself to be VERY TRIBAL.

[GoldenGirl90]

Just now, CheezyXpressed said:

I did want more of the shooting topic. Mental illness is one thing, but why is that only reserved for white males? If a Muslim did something, laws would be passed. An immigrant? A wall will be built. But a white male? It must be mental illness.

I loved what Sunny said about being tired of all the excuses: the liberal media, mental illness, being bullied, ect. Everything except the guns are the problem according to the right-wing media. I also liked when Joy mentioned that mental illness affects people all over the world and yet, America has the most death caused by guns.

[blondiec0332]

OK so I just watched the segment with Meghan explaining why she didn't watch the Royal Wedding and it was even more ridiculous than I thought.  So Meghan I guess thought it would be treason? disrespectful? to watch because we fought a war against England over 200 years ago?

[Former Nun]

4 minutes ago, blondiec0332 said:

So Meghan I guess thought it would be treason?

So is she calling for the beheading of the Duchess of Sussex?

[Apprentice79]

1 minute ago, blondiec0332 said:

OK so I just watched the segment with Meghan explaining why she didn't watch the Royal Wedding and it was even more ridiculous than I thought.  So Meghan I guess thought it would be treason? disrespectful? to watch because we fought a war against England over 200 years ago?

Plus, England has been our strongest ally.  However, things have gotten tensed, due to you know who...

I was shock to see even Fox News covering the wedding and enjoying themselves...So, Megan is just a joyless person..

[Haleth]

Quote

Coming together as a country and not delving into this crap that we're at right now of divisiveness and not being able to speak together <unintelligible>, and you have to hate the other person and we have no decency and death jokes are acceptible and you can never apologize... that is not the McCain way. And it's never gonna be.

So says Meghan. 

Edited May 21, 2018 by Haleth

[blondiec0332]

So Meghan says divisiveness isn't the McCain way.  Then why does she keep being divisive? 

[merriebreeze]

I think this is the M Gladwell article Joy referenced

. . . and Meghan rudely dismissed. After Columbine, things changed. Those shooters wrote the "cultural script" and set the threshold. I'm sure Meghan would have a hard time understanding the writer's point. 

[backformore]

19 minutes ago, blondiec0332 said:

So Meghan says divisiveness isn't the McCain way.  Then why does she keep being divisive? 

Meghan calls Joe Biden " Uncle Joe."  There. Done. She is not divisive. Ok? So all you liberals who want to repeal the 2nd amendment need to stop saying she's divisive.

[blondiec0332]

1 minute ago, backformore said:

Meghan calls Joe Biden " Uncle Joe."  There. Done. She is not divisive. Ok? So all you liberals who want to repeal the 2nd amendment need to stop saying she's divisive.

I would stop calling her divisive if she wouldn't literally turn her back on people like Dick Durbin. Senator Dick Durbin.  The man who holds the same title as her dad.

[SoapySales]

21 minutes ago, merriebreeze said:

I think this is the M Gladwell article Joy referenced

. . . and Meghan rudely dismissed. After Columbine, things changed. Those shooters wrote the "cultural script" and set the threshold. I'm sure Meghan would have a hard time understanding the writer's point. 

Meghan was about to bash Malcolm Gladwell before they cut to break. Sorry they did that because I wanted to see her try to take him on. She apparently thinks she is on his intellectual level. Bwahaahahaha!

[Tosia]

10 minutes ago, SoapySales said:

Meghan was about to bash Malcolm Gladwell before they cut to break. Sorry they did that because I wanted to see her try to take him on. She apparently thinks she is on his intellectual level. Bwahaahahaha!

She probably doesn't have a clue who he is or anything else he wrote.  Moron Meggie.

[blondiec0332]

20 minutes ago, merriebreeze said:

I think this is the M Gladwell article Joy referenced

. . . and Meghan rudely dismissed. After Columbine, things changed. Those shooters wrote the "cultural script" and set the threshold. I'm sure Meghan would have a hard time understanding the writer's point. 

That article was chilling.  How do you prevent things like this when the perpetrator could be any kid?

[GHScorpiosRule]

19 minutes ago, merriebreeze said:

I think this is the M Gladwell article Joy referenced

. . . and Meghan rudely dismissed. After Columbine, things changed. Those shooters wrote the "cultural script" and set the threshold. I'm sure Meghan would have a hard time understanding the writer's point. 

Unless it's written out for her, she doesn't understand a damn thing; then again, she was "a child" when Columbine happened, so how is she expected to know?

17 minutes ago, backformore said:

Meghan calls Joe Biden " Uncle Joe."  There. Done. She is not divisive. Ok? So all you liberals who want to repeal the 2nd amendment need to stop saying she's divisive.

?????

14 minutes ago, blondiec0332 said:

I would stop calling her divisive if she wouldn't literally turn her back on people like Dick Durbin. Senator Dick Durbin.  The man who holds the same title as her dad.

Par for the course with this twat.

11 minutes ago, SoapySales said:

Meghan was about to bash Malcolm Gladwell before they cut to break. Sorry they did that because I wanted to see her try to take him on. She apparently thinks she is on his intellectual level. Bwahaahahaha!

????

1 minute ago, Tosia said:

She probably doesn't have a clue who he is or anything else he wrote.  Moron Meggie.

Based on the above comments, I assume the real Meghan McCain returned? Gee, that was fast!????

[blondiec0332]

Meghan you stupid twat.  Maybe Kelly Clarkson evolved on the subject of gun control because she had kids.  Or maybe she is just tired of all the dead kids.  Or maybe it doesn't matter.  Kelly is a human being that apparently can grow and change her views.  Unlike you who just double downs and doesn't offer up any solutions at all.

[Jaded]

8 minutes ago, blondiec0332 said:

Meghan you stupid twat.  Maybe Kelly Clarkson evolved on the subject of gun control because she had kids.  Or maybe she is just tired of all the dead kids.  Or maybe it doesn't matter.  Kelly is a human being that apparently can grow and change her views.  Unlike you who just double downs and doesn't offer up any solutions at all.

She doesn't seem to comprehend that there are plenty of gun owners out there that actually support gun control.

[atlantaloves]

Thank you Blondie, you nailed it. I'm an ole Texas gal who use to have guns, now in Georgia WITHOUT THEM. I changed my frigging mind after children in schools were being gunned down. I see that stuffed cabbage is back in her full flag waving fury. 

[VCRTracking]

41 minutes ago, blondiec0332 said:

Meghan you stupid twat.  Maybe Kelly Clarkson evolved on the subject of gun control because she had kids.  Or maybe she is just tired of all the dead kids.  Or maybe it doesn't matter.  Kelly is a human being that apparently can grow and change her views.  Unlike you who just double downs and doesn't offer up any solutions at all.

Man, she had the receipts too. She obviously went and immediately googled that info from obscure interviews from years ago. She didn't mention that Kelly owned those guns mainly because she was single and living alone in the middle of a big ranch in Texas and it was for protection. Not because she thought the government was going to be authoritarian and she needed to form a militia or whatever bullshit reason the NRA gives. Also it seems to her owning a gun means you can't be emotional when a gun massacre involving children happens and to not want it to stop. Suddenly that's hypocritical ?  Screw you Meghan. Apparently Kelly should have been like some of the other gun owners I've had the misfortune of encountering on Twitter where a hundred kids would be killed in a mass shooting and they still wouldn't want to change current gun laws.

And look I'm a practical person. Of course there are other solutions we should look into but I think maybe we can start with banning assault rifles? Yes if some nut wants to kill a whole bunch of people they will find another way but how about we at least take THAT off the table?

Oh and BTW Meghan owning paintings of Washington, Jefferson and Hamilton? I don't care if your the daughter of a senator, that's FUCKING WEIRD. Like did any normal person care that much about Hamilton before the musical to own a painting of him?!

Edited May 21, 2018 by VCRTracking

[Picture It. Sicily]

My grandfather was a member of the NRA. One dead child and he would have been leading the charge for common sense gun regulation. Because he was a father and grandpa above all else. If he were alive he'd be appalled at the modern NRA. 

[atlantaloves]

My Dad too.

[RHJunkie]

Can we get a doctor to examine Meghan? Because there is obviously something really messed up between her auditory hearing and the way her brain interprets the information.  What media is talking about banning guns all together and eradicating the 2nd amendment? I've seen individuals make comments on it and I've seen people from other countries where there are a ban on guns that talk about crime and violence being low in their areas but I have never heard media say this. And if they have, then it must be a very small minority of media that has, in which case, it doesn't justify constantly addressing the issue as though people are waging war on everyone's right to bear arms. It's an intellectually dishonest argument that is intended to distract from valid points made about access to guns being an issue and lack of national consistency in the way access and background checks are carried out. Meghan wants to make up a fake argument so that she has a reason to talk over reasonable arguments. Call me judgemental but if you can look around you and see all of these young lives being taken because of gun violence and you're main concern is still about how it affects YOU and your gun, then you're not only selfish, but kind of heartless as well. The common thinking among gun enthusiasts is that they feel that accepting restrictions on guns will eventually lead to a gun ban. So they're preventing any meaningful dialogue because of their own paranoia about what they think may happen in the future. Must be nice that they can at least think about a future while today's children have to go to school each day and wonder if they're going to be shot up. 

And to add, Meghan's patriotism is at a level of unhealthy. The fact that while watching videos of the royal wedding you feel the need to have a conversation with your presidential portraits to reaffirm your Americanness isn't funny, it's pretty stupid and beyond extra, lol.

[merriebreeze]

From a RawStory piece:

Quote

“A lot of times it’s jumped to that, that’s the thing,” McCain said. “Not at this table, but other people, you know, in the media, it is jumped to automatically. I would also like to say, what is is about — I know we don’t want to talk about mental illness, but what is it about young boys in our culture who are rejected by girls, which is what happened in this specific situation, and your only option is to somehow go and commit a massacre at your school?”

Now that's a word salad even Bitsy or Palin would be proud of.

Edited May 21, 2018 by merriebreeze

[JAYJAY1979]

Thank gosh for Sara Haines!  She brought up the point that only 11 states require gun owners to report when a gun is stolen.. and even discussed with Sunny possible consquences for gun owners who don't lock/hide the guns with minors in the house... even saying that both of those things wouldn't infringe on the 2nd amendment right.  Then lastly she said that mental illness is one of the many factors that needed to be discussed along with gun laws, reforms, etc.

Also, I'm sure Kelly Clarkson owns guns and loves her guns, but understands that reforms on gun laws doesn't mean taking away her guns.  She seems to have this thing called common sense that seems to be missing from our Ms. McCain.