Finals, Training Camp and Social Media

[scorpio1031]

13 minutes ago, go4luca said:

I have normal to dry skin so need gentle products and this fits the bill for me.  There are also some great holy grail (HG) products in Korean beauty products.  Especially if you do the double cleanse method for makeup removal.

To keep this sort of on topic re: DCC

Thanks to that video @scorpio1031 shared, I have now discovered an odd DCC factoid:  Using deodorant on the face to control perspiration.  Wow.

You're welcome:)  I remember when I shared it last time, some were surprised about using the chapstick as a shadow primer and complained that it burned, and someone else said not to use the mint chapstick……...LOL!!  I knew about the baby powder as a dry shampoo.  But I wonder, in temp controlled AT&T stadium, how bad do they get compared to Texas Stadium?

[ClosetDCCFan]

5 hours ago, AAEBoiler said:

I disagree with this totally since these segments were actually filmed over 8 weeks ago, way before any of this bubbled up.

The rumors (and discussions on this board) of Victoria claiming to be guaranteed a spot on the team surfaced way back around audition time ... in MAY.  

[Loves2Dance]

5 hours ago, AAEBoiler said:

I disagree with this totally since these segments were actually filmed over 8 weeks ago, way before any of this bubbled up.

We have already lost one insider because TPTB were on the hunt for the tea spillers. They may have been filmed 8 or so weeks ago, but this board follows TC in real time. And we already know, per Shelly, that Kelli and Judy do come here from time to time and read. 

Edited October 20, 2018 by Loves2Dance

[scorpio1031]

15 minutes ago, Loves2Dance said:

We have already lost one insider because TPTB were on the hunt for the tea spillers. They may have been filmed 8 or so weeks ago, but this board follows TC in real time. And we already know, per Shelly, that Kelli and Judy do come here from time to time and read. 

and then Shelly laughs :)

[CaseyRe]

On 17/10/2018 at 12:28 AM, scorpio1031 said:

So, VK is 18 years old, been dancing most of her life and I'm assuming with different teachers.  My question is for all of you dance experts on our forum, and I apologize if we did discuss this before - she doesn't stay in her space, would that have been addressed in a dance class?  Should that have been addressed?  I'm thinking safety.  I'm thinking that if I'm the dancer next to her, I would be worried I'd get hit.  I'm surprised it wasn't addressed in TC because other girls have been talked to about lines, following a leader, etc, but I guess by now, I shouldn't be surprised.

Can't speak for 'pure' dance, but for skating, hell yeeeessss the whole rink would have heard you being chewed out over travelling, esp if you're a pairs or dance skater, because you can literally kill your partner if you travel into them (people have had their throats cut by a partners blade during side by side camel spins when someone has travelled) and you also lose a lot of technical points for travelling, but even as a single skater if you don't keep to where you're meant to be when you're meant to be there, you can end up jumping into the boards or running out of space.  your footwork sequences have to be perfect in line(either straight or on the circle) and your spins etc have to be precise.  with skating its super easy to see when someone travels as the ice is a serious little snitch and marks up under your blade. 

IF it was never mentioned to Vk then her teachers were falling down on the job

[EricaShadows]

On 10/19/2018 at 9:54 AM, scorpio1031 said:

I think Judy is well aware of what could have been done differently in TC, and is being defensive about it.  Or she could be frustrated with Kelli and takes it out on everyone else, including the viewers.  However, I've never appreciated the whole you guys don't see what goes on behind the camera.  Are you saying that you are editing the show to give us a false impression?  Cause I assume that what I see on the show is just a small part of what is really happening - Malena isn't getting the dances, Tara is struggling, VK is annoying, etc.

I don't believe VK's kindness in the office.  I think there was an awareness of cameras in the room.

And with taking so long to finalize the team, everything got so rushed at the end what with Meet the Team and the first game.  Charlotte should just give Kelli a deadline and remind her, you get 36 girls and that's it.  Or give her a criteria list - it's week 4, who can do this and who can't?  Start cutting.

I think she's certainly aware of what could have been done differently in Training Camp and felt helpless to do anything about it because she'd tried already and was shut down about it.  On top of that, she's frustrated with Kelli because she's watched Kelli be more ruthless over the years, yet is treated ONE rookie candidate with kid gloves when, if she'd been anyone else, she would have been cut LONG ago and that was IF she'd made Training Camp after that bad Finals audition.  Frankly, I think that they should already KNOW who the weaker girls are by the end of week 2 and should have several girls they're ready to cut by the end of week 3, if they haven't already, with a list of several more girls who are on the bubble and can be cut if they don't improve over a certain period of time.  That list should start with the weakest girls/most likely to be cut at the top and work your way down.  If Judy and Kelli aren't sure, they should look at the girls in Training Camp and say "If we had to pick the team tonight, who are the top 36?" list those girls and look at who falls below that line and start cutting from the bottom of that list unless a girl significantly improves.  That list of Kelli's and Judy's may change over time, especially if they ask themselves (and select others) that question at least twice a week starting in week 2.

On 10/19/2018 at 11:19 AM, Kate2006 said:

I'll probably get flamed for this but it was tough watching  VK's cut, although I think she lasted too long.  Her not wanting to go home and tell her mom says volumes about the pressure she was under from home to make the team. I really think a year from now when she makes the team (because we all know she will come back and make the team at some point), she will reflect that getting cut was the best thing that could have happened to her. It will teach her humility and empathy for future TCC's who are going through the process. I really think she will mature from that experience and learn that nepotism doesn't always work out in your favor. 

She might be under a lot of pressure from home, which makes me sad for her because NO ONE should be under that much pressure from parents.  On the other hand, if her mom would stop trying to relive her glory days as a DCC through her daughter and had let her daughter actually LIVE her life and experience both success and failures, Victoria might actually have made the squad this year if she had not only have taken steps to actually improve in all the areas asked of her, but been an overall better person.  That's entirely on Tina (and some on the father).  I really hope Victoria steps out of her comfort zone and works on the things she was told in Training Camp, but I doubt she was actually told ANYTHING beyond lose the weight and some other inconsequential things.

On 10/19/2018 at 11:34 AM, jlc said:

Sorry, but I don't give her that much credit. She will come back expecting to make the team because Aunt Kelli told her there is a uniform for you and you will do great things (point, pro bowl, all star) on this team.

I half expect this of her too.  I'm REALLY hoping to be proved wrong, but I doubt I will be.

On 10/19/2018 at 1:41 PM, DFWBelle said:

Someone told me to "watch the show, it will change your perspective of the VK situation" months ago. Now that I've watched the whole thing, the cut has been broadcast, my opinion is no different. If I were Judy, Shelly, or Jinelle I would feel uncomfortable in many ways about how Kelly treated Victoria and feel undermined as an employee. While Victoria is a good dancer in many styles and did improve in the DCC style as training camp went on, she was by no means top 36 and should not have made training camp based on her audition (i.e. falling out of turns multiple times). The moment Victoria blew off Jinelle and had that horrendous encounter with her in the office she should have been excused from training camp. Others have been given the boot for much less, Kendall from not going to extra sessions with mentor Melissa, etc. For Victoria's weight, attitude towards Jinelle, and locker room toxicity to not be addressed in her cut is wrong when you look at how harshly Kelly spoke to Dayton and Kristen this summer. When Victoria enters the real world she's in trouble because adults have been doing a serious disservice to her by coddling her. 

I wonder who said to "watch the show, it will change your perspective of the VK situation" and what they meant by it, especially if they thought you'd go from disliking her to liking her or vice versa.  When I think about the whole issue with Victoria, I often wonder how much of it is her and how much of it is the favoritism and nepotism that's showered on her by Kelli.  If one or the other was changed, would I like the situation more or would I still hate how everything went down?

22 hours ago, MamaV said:

Here’s my take:

I think Kelli’s comments that VK has potential for the team blah blah blah were made to appease TK and VK. And probably Kelli herself.  

I think VK comes back next year with her weight and behavior at a decent enough level that she gets a place on the team. JMHO

I hope that Victoria improves enough to make 

19 hours ago, sleepyjean said:

She was on the Florida Marlins dance team for two years prior to DCC, so she was definitely not an 18 year old rookie.

I think Judy had a very human and understandable reaction. While viewers have every right to watch the show and form their own opinions, for Judy this isn't tv. This is her job every day, day after day for almost 30 years. She does not edit the show and does not control which stories are told and how. So yeah, she's had enough of low-information viewers Monday morning quarterbacking her decisions and her qualifications. I can't say I blame her. I don't believe that just because people are on tv or are celebrities that they don't have the same emotions and frailties as anyone else. For the most part, she handles it with grace. Occasionally it gets to her. I have no problem with that.

Sorry about that.  I'd forgotten that she was a dancer for the Marlins.  Mia Culpa.  As for the rest of it, I completely understand her frustration with things, but that's when you either go into a quiet place without electronics/paparazzi or find someone who can keep their lips zipped and just RANT until the emotions clear and you can think clearly again.  Problem solved for the moment.

18 hours ago, abigator said:

A day later, I’m still fired up about the office visit for VK’s cut. Kelli’s comments about people assuming VK was a shoo in due to her connections & how that was bull clearly illustrate how deluded Kelli was this season. I think everyone here can agree that VK worked hard in training camp. It’s not like she was standing in the corner filing her nails the entire time. BUT ALL THE GIRLS WORK HARD.

What people have a problem with is that VK clearly had no respect for the process & her lack of respect & immaturity had absolutely no consequences. She gained 11 lbs in the matter of a few weeks. She should’ve been cut. There was absolutely no way for her to lose that weight in a healthy manner & maintain that weight loss if she gained that much in such a short period of time. “Give her the respect” my ass. Then, she disrespected a staff member, ignored services that the organization generously offered her, & only apologized as an afterthought when she was being reprimanded. She should’ve been cut then, especially if she was caught lying. After that debacle, she butchered her media interviews to the point where Kelli stated she couldn’t trust her to talk to media. When Kelli made the decision that she wouldn’t train/help Taylor with her mistakes, she absolutely should have cut VK for the same reason. Finally, you have the stickers & the office visits. She has 1 sticker. She had 5 office visits.

It’s clear that VK worked hard to learn the dances & is passionate about being a DCC, but that doesn’t make her special. Every single girl that tries out works hard & is passionate. VK clearly had the advantage of nepotism that every other girl didn’t. She got away with gaining 11 lbs while Tara was cut for being underwhelming & gaining 10 lbs. She got away with having a horrendous media day while Taylor was cut for the same reason. Based on rumors here, VK hasn’t learned her lesson or matured at all, considering she’s running around her dance classes telling people that she was cut for taking up too much screen time. Kelli did her no favors by softening the blow of being cut. She should’ve put every issue out on the table just like she does with every other TCC. Look at how she talked to Madeline & Kristin. Unfortunately, VK will audition next year, fly under the radar with little to no focus on her/no THs in an attempt to quiet the unrest & still let her on the team. Very disappointed in this season & what this process has become.

It's a toss-up between Victoria being an entitled, immature girl who's oblivious to the optics of the whole situation and is ecstatic that she's "guaranteed" a spot on the team, thus doing absolutely NOTHING to earn beyond learning the dances and Kelli who is mostly blind to the favoritism and nepotism that she's doling out to Victoria and may have been so nervous and unsure of her own judgement (plus a seeming lack of confidence) regarding picking the team that she either willingly blinds herself to the faults of the rookie candidates or doesn't want to make ANY calls that could come back to haunt her like they did last year.  Probably a combination of all of the above.

15 hours ago, MTTFan said:

If that had happened (or happens in the future) K can never cut someone for weight, attitude or mistakes again without everybody in the world crying foul.

The biggest sign of favoritism (besides the fact that she on the show until the next to last episode) -- the edit showing VK hugging each of them, showing her walking through the tunnel and hugging K's assistant, etc. and CMT's comment "hold your head up."  I am open to correction but I don't recall CMT ever making a post like that before.  VK was the story this year and it fell completely flat and did nothing but show K&J in a really bad light.

I also agree with the comment that Judy's comments were a put down of the fans that watch the show.  I would be careful, those same fans may not be viewing next year.

Take the hint CMT, Charlotte, Kelli and Judy:  in TV parlance your show is coming awfully close to "jumping the shark" and losing whatever goodwill and credibility it had in the past.

I hope Kelli gets her confidence back about her judgement of people and, if Victoria shows up next year like she did this year, that she tells the girl, "Not this time.  You're nowhere near ready."  Probably won't happen though.  Victoria will probably get passed through and onto the squad without a problem,

6 hours ago, MamaV said:

Are there any more updates about VK possibly getting her own show in her lead up to auditions?  Just wondering. 

 

6 hours ago, SmpIsimon said:

Only that Tina is trying hard to make that happen. 

I humbly beg of TPTB to not only NOT make this happen (if indeed there is truth to this), but to tell both Victoria and Tina to bugger off about it because Victoria's not pretty enough, talented enough or compelling enough to warrant her own show.

6 hours ago, MTTFan said:

If true, Because  VK is her little girl and she is looking for another bite of the limelight -- keep in mind that if Vk has a show, her mother is bound to be part of it.  Probably wants a little of what Kelli has with MTT.

I suspect that this is more Tina's doing and that she not only wants to relive her glory days as a DCC through her daughter, but wants to be in the limelight again in the current time and place.  I can guarantee that I will NOT be watching this show if it ever comes to fruition.  I love professional dance of all types, but will only watch shows that will catch my attention and this one won't. 

[CaseyRe]

22 hours ago, TexasBorn said:

Jalyn - "I'm not a pretty cryer." LMAO! She is hilarious.

Has any other TCC or DCC had that much runny mascara? What a train wreck.

given they dance regularly in extremely hot conditions, sweating a lot, to wear anything other than waterproof mascara is just straight up stupid.  had that been me, I'd be mortified to my grave. she had mascara all over her top. she reminded me of the Joker

[Thebiglebowski]

TPTB?

[PBSLover]

The powers that be

[Stee]

I love Judy (my favorite!) but a couple things about her twitter post:

• As a tv show, they should be thanking their fans for watching, even if they disagree with cuts or final team members. People are always going to disagree and post critical opinions whether it’s American Idol or Top Model. The worst case is not couch potatoes criticizing your choices, but rather no one talking about your show at all.
• Her twitter reply would *not* have passed social media training day!
• We may only see 15 minutes but Scott the Weatherman saw the whole audition process and had many of the same feelings we did.  You can’t blame editing for that!

Edited October 20, 2018 by Stee

[PBSLover]

All I keep thinking is that if VK had been some random blonde trying to make training camp she would have probably made semis but not passed though to finals. And if she did make finals, no way would they have picked her for training camp. Just my opinion. We never saw her audition interview. Makes me wonder how that went 'cause gurl couldn’t answer a question when a microphone was in front of her. 

[Muckypup61]

28 minutes ago, PBSLover said:

All I keep thinking is that if VK had been some random blonde trying to make training camp she would have probably made semis but not passed though to finals. And if she did make finals, no way would they have picked her for training camp. Just my opinion. We never saw her audition interview. Makes me wonder how that went 'cause gurl couldn’t answer a question when a microphone was in front of her. 

She probably had no words.

[Pinknblue]

6 minutes ago, Muckypup61 said:

She probably had no words.

Haha was just about to say that!

 

PANEL INTERVIEWS:

Brenda to VK “who is the commander in chief?”

VK (simpering smile) “I have no words”

KJ & CA: “awwww how cute”

JT: <purses lip>

 Brenda: <sobs hysterically>

[camera cut to Marshall for pre-recorded extreme side-eye]

[EricaShadows]

1 hour ago, PBSLover said:

All I keep thinking is that if VK had been some random blonde trying to make training camp she would have probably made semis but not passed though to finals. And if she did make finals, no way would they have picked her for training camp. Just my opinion. We never saw her audition interview. Makes me wonder how that went 'cause gurl couldn’t answer a question when a microphone was in front of her. 

You're not the only one who thinks this. A lot of other people have as well, including me.  I've been saying it throughout Training Camp.  If she'd been anyone else, she would have made semis, but her figure and her traveling when dancing would have kept her out of Finals.  If, by some miracle, she made Finals, her name would have been crossed off the list of potential candidates the moment she fell out of that double turn.  Difficult to do in shoes on turf or not, other girls didn't seem to have trouble, or at least not as much, with the turn.  I'm glad I've never had to deal with favoritism or nepotism because I would have told them to stop that right fast, not only because it isn't fair, but because I want to know that I earned something because of the work that I did and the effort I put in, not because I was someone's pet or favoritism/nepotism.

Edited October 21, 2018 by EricaShadows

[SimplePleasures]

2 hours ago, CaseyRe said:

she had mascara all over her top.

It probably ran down to the inside of her boots.  o o O:

[CruiseGirl]

On 10/19/2018 at 3:13 PM, hannahbanana said:

We've seen so much of VK in all of the other episodes, I wouldn't be surprised if she shows up in 75% (at least) of the next episode in the form of flashbacks, what could have beens, & "I'm so sad I didn't make it this year, but I'm already preparing for next year" talking heads. ???

If VK tries out again  next season which I’m sure she will, and it becomes “The Victoria Show” again, I will be done with this show. I wants to see all the candidates and not just one. She seemed to be in every episode with a lot of camera on her and it’s ridiculous and boring. One of the last cuts next week, I didn’t even know who she was. 

[CrazyInAlabama]

If VK keeps dancing at the DCC level with stunts, and jump splits, etc. at her added weight she's almost sure to blow out a knee or other injury.      The added stress of pressure on joints is going to eventually catch up to her, and that's sad at her age.  

[Thebiglebowski]

Y'all on here talking about falling out of turns, traveling while dancing...

And im over here like- i have the flexibility and the sexiness of a 2×4 and cant hook my own bra strap...all the TCCs are fabulous. LMAO!

[pisces125]

What happens with groups when cuts are made?  Do they have to move people around to make sure each group has 9 during the regular season?

[go4luca]

9 minutes ago, pisces125 said:

What happens with groups when cuts are made?  Do they have to move people around to make sure each group has 9 during the regular season?

Eventually the groups get redistributed prior to the first game.

[sATL]

any body know if Tina made it the 1st time she tried out ?  Did she retire on her own or was she cut during the re-tryout process ?

Edited October 21, 2018 by sATL

[Guest]

Random thoughts after watching the last few seasons...

 

Social pages bc I think I’ve read it here several times, does anyone else find it sad that former cheerleaders coattail and still use their old uniform photos as profile pics on social media to gain followers or self gain? Or better yet post their old photos every game day lol. Pretty pitiful. I admire the ones who have made a life for themselves outside of that image. 

 

I find it sad that Shelly has devoted her entire adult life to the DCC organization and her daughter who is technically trained & born into the DCC life wasn’t given a chance the first or second try. It would have been hard for me to not walk out on my position if I had a daughter put through public humiliation after years of service and loyalty. Proud to know she isn’t going back to try again because they have known her forever and know her capabilities, find it to be cold and heartless to not let her have the honor of wearing the uniform. It’s one thing if she didn’t have the training or the look but she is well qualified. Dayton’s also setting a great example to others whose dreams have fallen short that they can be reached in other areas of professional dance. That it should never be DCC or bust when you’ve invested that much into dance. Think about all of the strugglers who have been given a chance over the years though? I think we can all think of several who make it each year who have no real investment into the organization or the total package. 

 

I do believe the pressures of reality TV let VK fall in the cracks, the pressure was too great to take her with the edits showing weaknesses in that high pressured environment. Also the pressures of cutting the employee’s daughter, it wouldn’t have looked good to take the BF’s daughter. Hence the anxiety K was facing that showed through this season. How is it fair though to take the ones from other states or who are skating by for the fame and self gain, she at least probably thinks DCC is the ultimate prize? 

 

Other legacies, Meredith O who was featured this week’s mother is one of J’s best friends (kids all grew up at the same dance studio) and she didn’t make it past finals her 1st try but made it when she tried again a couple years later. Her sister never tried out, not sure why. I thought Dayton’s journey would look a lot like Meredith’s- didn’t make it past finals, then goes on to make it and become a leader. Again, good for her for not idolizing DCC and seeing the organization in her rear view mirror. 

 

It seems like over the years, there’s been a lot of ladies who have invested their childhoods of dance training to have a chance at becoming a DCC, the whole era of Jr DCC’s come to mind (not the peewee rec league like they are today the ones who have been discussed about in this forum who were chosen from camps) and formers cheerleaders daughters, or those who were just born Cowboys fans. Aside from that the newer craze of “I’ve dreamed of this all of my life” are the ones who started watching when the reality show came out, not near the emotional or time investment into the program as the candidate pool who fit the mold above. 

 

The years of the show all goes to show there isn’t a cookie cutter DCC... I’ve heard them say she might be too tall or girls legs are too short for boots but they’ve had short girls on the team at least one a season, girls stay on with weight issues with no consequence, ect..There’s been girl (s) with a criminal background (DWI) a little criminal background check showed it who made it within the last several years and others cut for sketchy social media pages or crooked pasts. Scratched my head at some every year they put in uniform and am floored by the ones that they’ve passed up in earlier rounds. It’s baffling! When someone figures out the system, let the forum know. 

 

It’s not what you know but who you know is no longer a good excuse, obviously. I do think the trend to become a DCC is fading with the newer generations, auditions show this to be true from over a 1000 in 90’s early 2000’s to a little over 100 now. Women are becoming more empowered and don’t want to waste their time working for beans to be ridiculed and slung through the ringer on their hair, weight, body shape, height, beauty and talent. It is starting to appear demeaning, maybe it always has been just more talking now with forums like this. Kitty is one of the worst offenders and doesn’t represent the whole DCC wholesome ambassador image very well. It’s just who she is is a poor excuse to treat other human beings like she does, it’s not admirable or funny. Her hostility doesn’t sit well with me at all and doesn’t line up at all with what they preach the DCC represent.  

 

Looks like some walk the glamour road during their tenure without being on the radar and others are cut down immensely (looked like Tara fell on that end this season :( hopefully she goes on to bigger and better opportunities). At the end of the day, props to the girls who are mentally tough enough to endure the grueling process. The directors definitely don’t have an easy job selecting a field of 36. 

[rose711]

13 hours ago, Tuxcat said:

I agree with this. Reality TV is not reality. Blame everything on CMT. They looked at VK and thought "ratings gold." They probably thought she was extremely likable and will provide at least 2 seasons of interest. Look on her Instagram and she is getting so many "I love you!" and "you are the greatest dancer" comments.

The problem is that we’ve seen the show for years and we’ve seen the standards that Kelli claims to have every year. It wasn’t hard to compare this season to what we’ve learned over 10 years and not see the stark contrast in treatment of Victoria (and even Malena)  to other girls.

We’ve never seen anyone ignore staff in any manner (although Kindall i guess got it for not wanting to work with Melissa.) We’ve never seen a vet cut at training camp for no blatantly obvious reason. We know something is wrong here.

The other problem is that if the show isn’t telling a believable story, the audience can figure it out. It’s been obvious how everyone criticizes Victoria and Melina, so you can’t expect the audience to not grasp that the story is not coherent when suddenly Tara, who the week before looked great at cameos,  is cut. The very choppy editing just reinforces the audience not believing what is being shown.

The third problem is that if you want the audience to have a different impression, then you need to tell that story. You can’t put out a show and then criticize the audience from making judgement on what was shown. If there is more to the story, show that, instead of getting mad that people aren’t buying what you’re selling.

I also think that Kelli was 100% behind focusing on Victoria as the star of the show. I don’t think she cared at all about telling the stories of the other girls on the team - rookies or vet. She had the Dayton and Victoria drama and that was the storyline she wanted shown.  She wanted the “beautiful storm” and the girl who fell out of her turns, over the strong objections of the other judges. She’s been behind the Victoria story the whole way

Edited October 21, 2018 by rose711
Added last sentences about Kelli

[Jessinvirginia]

I honestly think they knew malena and VK (maybe more VK) weren’t going to make it this year, but wanted to expose them to as much of the process and requirements as possible so they’d really have a leg up next year. I love malena’s sparkle. She has the “it” factor for me. I feel the worst for lily to be honest. How would it be to be called in on the LAST DAY OF TRAINING CAMP without any prior office visits and get cut?! Sucker. Punch. City. It’s like that one gal they called in on the last day years ago and cut her for her legs being too short. Ummm... you only just now realized this?? Something this poor girl literally can’t change? It took three months before coming to this conclusion? Unless she didn’t bring her legs to camp prior, in which case fair enough. I think those last two cuts are always the most painful. (Tara excluded, because oh my heart.)

I also feel bad for Judy this season. Her wings were clipped. Tough situation to be in. 

Lastly, I do really wish we’d gotten to see a greater variety of training camp candidates. This season, more than others, really felt like: Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders; The Cutting from the Team. I’d love to see more of the positive reinforcement and growth stories along with the drama of the cuts. Just felt heavy this year. Maybe because it was so personal for Judy and Kelly but still. 

On 10/19/2018 at 11:11 PM, FLAfan said:

Did anyone notice how Judy didn’t even respond to Kelli’s comments in this episode?

Kelli would turn and make comments while looking at Judy and Judy wouldn’t look

back at her or really respond back.

Yes! 100% noticed this! Made me sad Warching the rift between these two. 

[UnicornKicks]

I always thought the opposite like the girls who just aren't ready but they def want, usu due to weight, like Melissa, JennK, Meredith, etc. or Nicole Hamilton needing more dance, they hide and don't even mention for that first year, then they come back and we're wowed bc we've never seen them before. 

That's just my thoughts though. 

[rose711]

If they knew Malena wouldn’t make it or even if they strongly suspected she couldn’t get to where she needed by the end of training camp, then they should have told her not to quit her job that she loved. 

Keeping Malena and letting her give up her job for this training camp was one of Kelli’s worst management decisions.

Kelli has a responsibility to these girls as people not just as DCC wannabes. 

[Lily80]

23 hours ago, PBSLover said:

A great shot if you can dance and fit the criteria of what they are looking for? How many people has Kitty recommended to K&J that never make the team? Just because they don’t know you prior to prelims doesn’t mean a thing. This is what I have gotten from the show after watching for all these years. Kelli, who is currently on the squad started trying out in Season 3. Kitty recommended her over and over. K&J never picked her for training camp. I know Kelsi Reich was recruited and didn’t have to appear at prelims but that seems to be one of the few cases. Holly (redhead) was unknown to them from what I can remember. Same with Madeline Massingill. All the dancers from other teams out of state, etc.

I remember reading somewhere that Sydney was recruited and got to go straight to semifinals. 

[parrotfeathers]

I think Malena's decision to quit her job was her decision.  

[PrincessLeia]

5 hours ago, Lily80 said:

I remember reading somewhere that Sydney was recruited and got to go straight to semifinals. 

I think this happened with Kelsi Reich too. 

[Shan18]

21 hours ago, Thebiglebowski said:

In other news. MEGAMILLIONS is now up to 1.6BILLION. gives your thumbs a break from blabbering about VK and go buy some tickets...

Odds of us all continuing to babble about VK on a site dedicated to babbling: 100 percent

 

odds if winning the mega millions: 1 in 302 million

thanks for the advice though ;) 

[AAT]

On 10/20/2018 at 3:42 AM, pisces125 said:

Rookie Rachel: Tbh her personality seems overly rehearsed to me... don't love her. too pageant 

 

She bugs me too!! I'm not sure why she didn't get cut other than they wanted to say the first runner up to Miss America was on the team. She has zero personalty, not fun to watch, no pop whatsoever and seems pretty full of herself. Lily or Tara should have had her spot.

[parrotfeathers]

This morning I saw on a "nonofficial" FB Making the Team Fangroup that Lily was taken off the field in a golf cart (injured) and that was possibility the reason she was cut.

[Stee]

2 hours ago, DBAAT said:

She bugs me too!! I'm not sure why she didn't get cut other than they wanted to say the first runner up to Miss America was on the team. She has zero personalty, not fun to watch, no pop whatsoever and seems pretty full of herself. Lily or Tara should have had her spot.

Rookie Rachel was taken for calendar cover!  

[Christineelgene]

1 hour ago, parrotfeathers said:

This morning I saw on a "nonofficial" FB Making the Team Fangroup that Lily was taken off the field in a golf cart (injured) and that was possibility the reason she was cut.

I saw that post too, referencing next week’s preview.  I just watched this week’s ending again, and it is definitely Lily in the golf cart being taken down the tunnel into the stadium.  There was a earlier shot in the previews of her faltering on the field.

Edited October 21, 2018 by Christineelgene
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[sATL]

FYI  - Back to all of the discussion about clean eating..  

my grocery store has the organic seaweed chips 10/$10 . Several pages back a DCC had a pix that her boyfriend packed a game day bag - that included the chips, which I admit I had never seen the chips before. 

So for a $1,  I decided to at least try it... $1 to play powerball or seaweed chips. :)

[ByTor]

4 hours ago, parrotfeathers said:

I think Malena's decision to quit her job was her decision.  

Yep, she's an adult who took a gamble and lost.

[Holly85]

Lily was in the first fall prep class that Shelly taught !! Maybe she will re audition this next season 

[dreamcatcher]

@ByTor look! Brennan is assisting Shelly :) 

[Holly85]

9 minutes ago, dreamcatcher said:

@ByTor look! Brennan is assisting Shelly :) 

I saw that to so awesome !! I love seeing other girls assisting besides the normal ones like kashara and Amy l 

Edited October 21, 2018 by Holly85

[rose711]

Can anyone take these prep classes or do you have to be invited/qualify?

[MrsEVH]

6 minutes ago, Holly85 said:

I saw that to so awesome !! I love seeing other girls assisting besides the normal ones like kashara and Amy l 

Looks like cut TCC Jasmine ( now a AAIA) is there.

[Holly85]

1 minute ago, rose711 said:

Can anyone take these prep classes or do you have to be invited/qualify?

Anyone can take them register online 

[scorpio1031]

1 hour ago, sATL said:

FYI  - Back to all of the discussion about clean eating..  

my grocery store has the organic seaweed chips 10/$10 . Several pages back a DCC had a pix that her boyfriend packed a game day bag - that included the chips, which I admit I had never seen the chips before. 

So for a $1,  I decided to at least try it... $1 to play powerball or seaweed chips. :)

I buy them at Costco when they are on sale - they are good, but then again I like seafood.  You'll have to tell us what you think.

[Thebiglebowski]

Just that one short clip, you can clearly pick out some women who have a good chance of making the team, and you can definitely see some women who are trying but just dont quite have it

[Lily80]

2 hours ago, Holly85 said:

I saw that to so awesome !! I love seeing other girls assisting besides the normal ones like kashara and Amy l 

Brennan looked awesome! And was that TCC Jasmin in there too? The first one they cut this season?

[Holly85]

1 minute ago, Lily80 said:

Brennan looked awesome! And was that TCC Jasmin in there too? The first one they cut this season?

Yes it’s jasmine i hope she comes back maybe a year under Stephanie will help her !! 

[AAT]

3 hours ago, Stee said:

Rookie Rachel was taken for calendar cover!  

Not sure what you mean by this??

[go4luca]

15 minutes ago, DBAAT said:

Not sure what you mean by this??

I think @Stee meant they brought rookie Rachel into TC as a future swimsuit calendar cover due to her being a Miss America runner up.

[MssdDrms]

20 hours ago, PBSLover said:

All I keep thinking is that if VK had been some random blonde trying to make training camp she would have probably made semis but not passed though to finals. And if she did make finals, no way would they have picked her for training camp. Just my opinion. We never saw her audition interview. Makes me wonder how that went 'cause gurl couldn’t answer a question when a microphone was in front of her. 

I would LOVED to have seen her interview!!  I see it going something like...Charlotte: “Victoria, what would it mean to you to wear that uniform and dance on the field at AT&T stadium?”  Victoria: “Um, oh I just ...it would mean...oh there are just no words!!!”  The Entire Panel:   Awwwwww! ????

[vivianspoetry]

7 hours ago, DBAAT said:

She bugs me too!! I'm not sure why she didn't get cut other than they wanted to say the first runner up to Miss America was on the team. She has zero personalty, not fun to watch, no pop whatsoever and seems pretty full of herself. Lily or Tara should have had her spot.

I don’t find her particularly beautiful either, so not really sure what she brings to the table. I’m curious to see how her year goes. Some of the women that I’m totally indifferent towards at first end up turning into some of my faves. Hoping that will be the case here.