S10.E01: Gouls Just Wanna Have Fun

[esco1822]

1 hour ago, ChitChat said:

LuAnn's costume reminded me of this scene from Designing Women:  

I love you for this. One of my favorite episodes of all time. I of course thought of this:

[KungFuBunny]

10 hours ago, ghoulina said:

Yay! My girls are back! I don't know what it is about this franchise, but I just get such a kick out of NY. And we're already off to a great start. 

 

This is the season of the breakups, eh? Bye, Tom....and Scott....and Adam....and Frenchie. Too bad it wasn't bye, John. When he asked Tinsley if she was s virgin I almost threw up. 

 

Carole's costume was my favorite. I loved that she didn't do the obvious and pick a "sexy" costume. I also kind of love that she smoked because Amelia did? So random, but hilarious. Especially because she's about to run a marathon (which, good on her, but she runs like Phoebe Buffy). That's commitment to character!

Sonja's was my least favorite. I did not see Lucy. I saw Wilma Flintstone gets a job at Downton Abbey. 

So she's really with Rocco now? Full on? I feel bad, because it always seems like she's using him. 

And what was with her weird ads summer story? "I went on anti-depressants, went to France, and ate a bunch of crossaints. Then I got too fat, so it was off to Costa Rica to cleanse it all out!" Is that why she was out of touch with everyone until filming? Just weird. 

 

Also weird, is something going on with Carole and Bethenny? Carole wasn't at her charity dinner. Does that mean she didn't donate? It's just odd. I wonder if Carole's closeness with Tinsley has anything to do with it.

Bethenny's charity work was astounding. I have nothing negative to say about that. 

 

Ramona is still a snob. Those digs just fly out of her mouth before she can think. 

 

I'm not here for a season of Luann moaning about Tom. I'm with Carole - maybe LU should have called and apologized to everyone. That marriage was a joke from day one. I'm over it. 

And I'm not sure where Sonja's camel analogy fits in, but I'm eternally grateful for the flashback. 

 

Best part of the episode was drunk Dorinda planning a chicken and Ghost Hunters sleepover with Carole. Oh, NY, I just can't quit you!

I saw Ernestine Telephone Operator gets a job in a diner

Is Sonja losing her mind more than usual? Isn't she having problems with Tipsy Girl creepy Peter as well as being sued by her bankruptcy lawyers?

Flashback re-boot:

[SweetieDarling]

8 hours ago, BBHN said:

Atlanta ended it's season with a costume party 4 days ago, NYC opens with a costume party...Bravo Symmetry Synergy!

...and Ramona wore red latex this week, and Erika (RHBH) will wear red latex next week. hmmmm...

[BBHN]

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...and Ramona wore red latex this week, and Erika (RHBH) will wear red latex next week. hmmmm...

I'm thinking a bit more along the lines of events. Like when both Atlanta and Beverly Hills had escape room events last year...

If the OC ends up having a Murder Mystery dinner in it's upcoming seaosn, that would make me go hmmmm... ;)

Edited April 5, 2018 by BBHN

[KungFuBunny]

10 hours ago, UsernameFatigue said:

Mine too. It was very sweet, and John appeared to recognize (and Dorinda too since she wanted to leave) that she had had enough and needed to go before she said something she might regret. 

I laughed out loud when Luann told Carole that she should have phoned her when "the shit hit the fan". Honey, the shit hit the fan when TomCat was caught kissing an ex a few days before your engagement party. In fact, it never stopped hitting the fan.  I also thought it was interesting when Carole asked Luann why she didn't phone her when Carole and Adam broke up. After all, Carole and Adam lasted longer than Luann and TomCat's courtship, engagment, and marriage combined. By a couple of years. I think.

I am looking forward to this season. It will be interesting to see how Luann is leading up to when she ends up in jail. And after of course. On this franchise there is no one  that I detest, like there is on RHOBH (Dorito) and RHOOC (Peggy and Lydia, though at least they won't be back). Welcome back, ladies! 

I think Luann is angry at Carole - not for not phoning her when she got a divorce but because of the micced conversation coming from Barbara Kavovit.

What Barbara said about what Luann said - knowing about Tom, having doubts but would walk down the aisle and divorce later. It sure makes sense that Luann actually confided those things to several people.

Luann is mad because it contradicts the narrative she's going to shove down our throats this season.

[KungFuBunny]

10 hours ago, mbaywife123 said:

I have missed Ramona and her clueless delusions!

I almost fell off the couch onto the floor laughing at her speaking into Lu's fake costume microphone at the party like she was being interviewed for some real news show or that the audio was off for some reason during filming.

I absolutely LOVE Ramona, My Crazy Noodle!

I also like the Bethenny/Ramona dynamic. Ramona is the only one that can get under Bethenny's skin and stun her speechless. You can just see her blood pressure going off the charts and all Ramona has to say is one sentence. And then Ramona blinks and tries to play coy...Bwahahahaha

[psychoticstate]

Dorinda is positioning herself very nicely to be the drunk den mother for the Vanderpump Rules chucklefucks.  It's one thing to have a social drink but girl can't drink anything, apparently, without getting shitfaced drunk.  She was funny, at first, but now it's just pathetic.  Sonja clearly should have taken Dorinda with her to Costa Rica for the cleanse.

Was the filming out of sequence?  Because Carole's hair looked like her own when she was dressed as Amelia Earhart.  I like her haircut but I'm not sure about the blonde color.   And to the poster who said she resembled Phoebe Buffay running - - KADOOZ!  I gave that scene a side eye myself because clearly no one has told Carole that running a marathon isn't the 50 yard dash.  Run, Carole!  Run like Satan is after you!  Ha ha! 

I admire Beth's charitable endeavors and I am saddened by the loss of Cookie.  

Regarding Lu - - clearly Carole should have brought over a casserole.  Vicki Gunvalson needs to ring up this group to explain proper manners.

[SweetieDarling]

I love me some drunk Dorinda, but what was the deal with lecturing the women on the etiquette of greeting the host(ess) when arriving at the party, and then leaving her own party early because she got too sloshed?  

 

I would so love to be invited to the chicken and Ghost Hunters sleep over at Blue Stone Manor. 

[BBHN]

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all Ramona has to say is one sentence. And then Ramona blinks and tries to play coy

To be fair, isn't that Ramona's strategy with everyone?

[Baltimore Betty]

At every party we watch Dorinda melt like a crayon on a radiator, thank goodness John ushered her out before it became a scene out of "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf".

Luann has a lot of nerve demanding sympathy from Bethenny or from any of the women for that matter. Luann should have to re watch all last season and listen to the Greek chorus of I told you so on an endless loop. 

Ramona is a unreal, she cannot be happy for anyone.  Jealous and passive aggressive as the day is long.  I am not excited to watch her this season.

[HunterHunted]

They did a skit for NSL with Anna Samberg dress Lady Gaga.

I thought Dorinda said alive or dead. Regardless, I thought Carole's costume was the best. LuAnn's was offensive on so many levels. It was cheap and half-assed. It didn't look like Diana Ross. It didn't resemble ANY of Diana Ross' iconic looks. And it shouldn't have to be said in this day and age, but there is no need to paint yourself darker to impersonate someone of another race or ethnicity. Don't do it. Diana Ross' iconic looks:

http://www.everythingzoomer.com/lifestyle/style-beauty-grooming/2015/03/26/diana-ross-iconic-looks/

https://www.essence.com/fashion/diana-ross-iconic-style#1172156

Diana loves her flowy hair. Fuck that afro nonsense that Luann was sporting.

Ramona is still an asshole. As Bethenny is busy talking about her new income property, Ramona just sits there making faces like Ramona can afford any income property. Then her ass starts lecturing like Bethenny like Bethenny is clueless about real estate in the Hamptons. And Ramona has the temerity to do all this in an outfit that she stole from Lip Sync Battle!

2 hours ago, noveltylibrary said:

I think the term blackface is misused a lot.  Blackface is ugly and exaggerated with clown white lips, like what Ted Danson did when he was dating Whoopi Goldberg.  Using a darker bronzer in a flattering way is not blackface imo.

 

LuAnn's look might not have been blackface, but "painting darker" also has a really bad history too. In the golden age of cinema, white performers were painted darker to play Latino, Native American, Asian, and even Black characters. And for the most part, none of this was done to overtly denigrate and mock those ethnicities. However, none of this was done in the spirit of altruism and integration either because they never put any effort into hiring actual actors of those ethnicities. Nor were people of those ethnicities ever consulted in the writing and portrayal of those characters so biased bigoted stereotypes often snuck into the depictions. Iron Eyes Cody is one. He was the "Crying Indian" from the Keep America Beautiful ads. He was Italian. Yul Brynner was German and Russian. Or the Black Stunt Association.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Stuntmen's_Association?wprov=sfla1

There is nothing neutral to what Luann did. And it actually betrays her fundamentally laziness and undercuts her argument that she's a fan. She proclaims her admiration of Diana Ross, but doesn't even know that Ross rarely rocked an afro. She figured that a disco-y white jumpsuit, a huge afro, and bronzed skin would be enough to signify that she was costumed as one of the biggest stars of the 60s and 70s. Were the t-shirts saying "Miss Ross" all sold out? The worst part about this is that she never would have been this lazy with a costume for a white celebrity. She would have never walked in with that same jumpsuit and a long black wig and proclaimed that she was Cher. And she might have actually pulled that off.

Edited April 5, 2018 by HunterHunted

[SuprSuprElevated]

2 hours ago, Higgins said:

How was Ramona cheap?

I'm assuming it is a reference to the $3k donation vs. Tinsley's $10k donation.  Ramona then saying "I did what I could", or something to that effect.  FTR, any donation is a good donation imo, and shouldn't be judged against another person's donation.  For all we know, Ramona donates a lot of $$ to other charities (though she doesn't ooze a philanthropic mindset).  Bethenny was clearly shading Ramona with the comparison comment.  

2 hours ago, mwell345 said:

trying to show everyone how hip, cool and aware she is. 

^100%

[Duke2801]

40 minutes ago, esco1822 said:

I love you for this. One of my favorite episodes of all time. I of course thought of this:

This. is. Everything. 

As ridiculous as Jan's wig is, I think Lu's was TWICE as big.  WTH was she thinking??? 

2 hours ago, ChitChat said:

LuAnn's costume reminded me of this scene from Designing Women:  
Designing Women as The Supremes

OMG YES!  I knew there was a show where somebody had dressed in blackface (and her friends/family were horrified) but I could NOT think of what it was.  That is one of my FAVORITE Designing Women episodes (I always cried at the end when the cousin decides to leave the abusive husband). 

[zoeysmom]

Afro Love in the 70’s

Diana Ross may be singlehandedly responsible for the sales of more afro wigs than any other person alive. When she rocked her 70’s fro, it was large, in charge, glorious and glamorous.   https://www.essence.com/galleries/super-natural-afrobella-her-fave-diana-ross-hair-moments#534346

Maybe Luann was channeling 70's Diana Ross.  I didn't think Luann was trying to mock Diana Ross, anymore than Dorinda was mocking Lady Gaga or Ramona mocking Sritney spears.  To me accusing Luann of "blackface" is not within the traditional meaning.   It looked to me like Luann wanted a big headdress, a tight dress and an even bigger entrance.

Why is Carole so unhappy?  For some who is so down on others for being judgmental it does not stop with her.  Lighten up Carole.

[KungFuBunny]

15 minutes ago, BBHN said:

To be fair, isn't that Ramona's strategy with everyone?

Yep!

Bethenny falls for it every single time. She should know better by now.

[ancslove]

Bethenny seemed as appreciative of Ramona’s donation as she was of Tinsley’s, and Beth isn’t that good an actor.  She’s more likely to shade the women who didn’t donate anything to her.  (I wonder if that’s part of her tiff with Carole.  I can’t imagine Carole not doing anything,  but I can see her choosing to give to an established organization, instead of Bethenny’s.). 

Didn’t Ramona previously insult one of the other women for living in the wrong part of the Hamptons?  

[Higgins]

8 minutes ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

I'm assuming it is a reference to the $3k donation vs. Tinsley's $10k donation.  Ramona then saying "I did what I could", or something to that effect.  FTR, any donation is a good donation imo, and shouldn't be judged against another person's donation.  For all we know, Ramona donates a lot of $$ to other charities (though she doesn't ooze a philanthropic mindset).  Bethenny was clearly shading Ramona with the comparison comment.  

^100%

I'm sure many of her friends have causes. $3000 is a lot of money. 

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

1 hour ago, noveltylibrary said:

I think the term blackface is misused a lot.  Blackface is ugly and exaggerated with clown white lips, like what Ted Danson did when he was dating Whoopi Goldberg.  Using a darker bronzer in a flattering way is not blackface imo.

It didn't bother me either. Honestly I thought her face was bronzed like her chest was earlier at Dorinda's apt (I am still not sure if that was a shirt or just bronzer) and I didn't see blackface whatsoever. I just saw wig which was funny because it made her as tall as big bird. JMHO. 

She said in WWHL she wasn't even going for blackface and never would go for a blackface look ever.

The WWHL guest Jackie called Ramona's costume like a red Ludens cough drop shining in the sun. Hahaha

[bichonblitz]

So I'm assuming once the camera's stop rolling none of these women see each other? For like 8 month stretches at a time? Except maybe the new friendship between Carole and Tinsley and the couples trip they took quite a while ago?

I think Scott must have realized Tins is a little too batshit crazy for him and he jumped head first in to that fire too quickly, now he's slowly backing away. Smart move, Scott!

Carole and Adam's relationship is sad to me. I think she really loved him but would never admit how deeply she felt because she knew the age difference was too much and he would eventually grow tired of her, it was just a matter of time, so she puts on this brave liberated woman schtick of liking her cake, too. Meanwhile, she's really hurting.

I love the backdrop of NYC and I love watching the truly wealthy lifestyle they live. Spending summers in France, or the Hamptons, living in a 5 star hotels having every whim catered to. Their style, their fights. Everything! 

[Ki-in]

So Luan is supposed to reach out to Carole over her "break up" with Adam even though Carole had declared previously there was no break up but rather a step back? She plays it cool in the relationship and acts like its nothing but when people don't take the relationship seriously she gets offended.

Lu, that costume was so wrong.

Sonja looks horrible in her TH's, she has such nice skin and looks so much better with less make up.

Bethenny is still as abrasive as ever even when she's doing good deeds.

[WireWrap]

4 minutes ago, ancslove said:

Bethenny seemed as appreciative of Ramona’s donation as she was of Tinsley’s, and Beth isn’t that good an actor.  She’s more likely to shade the women who didn’t donate anything to her.  (I wonder if that’s part of her tiff with Carole.  I can’t imagine Carole not doing anything,  but I can see her choosing to give to an established organization, instead of Bethenny’s.). 

Didn’t Ramona previously insult one of the other women for living in the wrong part of the Hamptons?  

Carole gave to different charity, an animal charity. It was Bethenny/Carole that made fun at Jule's house in the Hamptons, that it wasn't in the right location.

[Ki-in]

3 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

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Carole and Adam's relationship is sad to me. I think she really loved him but would never admit how deeply she felt because she knew the age difference was too much and he would eventually grow tired of her, it was just a matter of time, so she puts on this brave liberated woman schtick of liking her cake, too. Meanwhile, she's really hurting.

 

I agree 100%. She tries to play it off but no wants to be a jump off no matter how cool she thinks it makes her seem.

Edited April 5, 2018 by Ki-in

[Boofish]

We are living in different times when someone gives a friend $3000.00 on faith that is going to a good cause and people think it's not enough money. 

Carole runs like Phoebe Buffay  

[SuprSuprElevated]

Even though I think that being offended has become a sport for some, with all of the choices that were available to Luann, that she selected to portray a woman of color just shows a little about her not being able to look beyond the end of her nose.  To walk into a party with that 2-foot high wig was more about look at me!! than it was about honoring Diana Ross.  Ditto with Ramona's Britney get-up.  She chose the most bodycon option she could have, in all its shiny redness, because Ramona believes she is all that and a truckload of chips.  She looks really good for a 60+ woman, right up to the point where she opens her mouth.  Plus, that gut was not cute.  At all.

[Juliegirlj]

No way in Hell can Carol run 20 miles, let alone, a marathon. When they showed her running with her trainer it looked like her shoes were tied together or something because she ran like a demented clown. 

Whichever housewife that first came up with the idea of filming with their household staff should be spanked- Bethenny’s driver seems nice and all, but, jeez, doesn’t she have ANY real friends in her life?! 

Sonja’s shtick has grown boring and predictable. 

Luann looked the best I’ve ever seen her on WWHL- apparently she quit drinking and smoking, and at least for now, dating. 

Love me some Dorinda~ drunk and sober. She fascinated me! 

[KungFuBunny]

If Dorinda was a Super Hero, her Super Power would be SLURRING.

Once she starts, it's magnetic and hypnotic and sucks you into her vortex

It's from the SNL skit with Adam Samberg. The NSL slit with Shombur. Sha booby bubba.

[SuprSuprElevated]

Just now, Juliegirlj said:

No way in Hell can Carol run 20 miles, let alone, a marathon. When they showed her running with her trainer it looked like her shoes were tied together or something because she ran like a demented clown. 

Whichever housewife that first came up with the idea of filming with their household staff should be spanked- Bethenny’s driver seems nice and all, but, jeez, doesn’t she have ANY real friends in her life?! 

Sonja’s shtick has grown boring and predictable. 

Luann looked the best I’ve ever seen her on WWHL- apparently she quit drinking and smoking, and at least for now, dating. 

Love me some Dorinda~ drunk and sober. She fascinated me! 

She had 2, and as we saw in this episode, one has died.  The other lives in Florida, a very comfortable 1000 miles away.

[TexasGal]

1 minute ago, Juliegirlj said:

Whichever housewife that first came up with the idea of filming with their household staff should be spanked- Bethenny’s driver seems nice and all, but, jeez, doesn’t she have ANY real friends in her life?! 

 

All evidence points to no.  Only paid people to fawn over her.

I have one photo of my beloved pupper who passed a year ago taken on the day he died, I was trying to keep him happy until the vet arrived and gave him some peanut butter which got on his nose and he tried to lick it off.  Every now and then I pass that photo in my stream and start crying.  Sigh.

[SuprSuprElevated]

2 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

If Dorinda was a Super Hero, her Super Power would be SLURRING.

Once she starts, it's magnetic and hypnotic and sucks you into her vortex

It's from the SNL skit with Adam Samberg. The NSL slit with Shombur. Sha booby bubba.

I was rolling my eyes with her constant referral to the costume as a "dress".  Gurl...

[Coffeewinewater]

1 hour ago, bichonblitz said:

I thought she said that, too. 

Sounds pretty good to me!

Right. I'd love to have the money to live in a posh hotel. Call me lazy but that sounds pretty good to me as well. Tinsley is doing pretty good. Definitely an upgrade from casa Morgan. 

[zoeysmom]

Many seasons ago and in Ramona's divorce settlement I recall Sonja saying Ramona was a smart cookie as she bought a condo prior to her marriage with Mario.  When they divorced a condo was mentioned as part of their real estate holdings.  Earlier this year Ramona mentioned getting her real estate license.  I thought Bethenny sounded like a fool talking about the five properties she has.  FFS she didn't even own a property until she was 40 years old.  According to Bethenny she spent $2 million in attorneys fees to get sole title to that property.

I agreed with Ramona-a house on the highway cannot be south of the highway.  I guess I am not the only one, Brian Moylan from Vulture: 

But the worst at the Halloween party is Bethenny. I’m not talking about her Boob-Popping Barbie look, I’m talking about her behavior. Now, it’s clear that Dorinda wasn’t the only one who was drunker than a recent parolee at bottomless brunch. Bethenny got wasted too and she and Ramona get into a fight about if her house on Montauk Highway in the Hamptons is “south of the highway” or not. I mean, come on. This is the stupidest, whitest fight since the Spanish American War or at least the West Palm Beach versus Palm Beach kerfuffle of last season. (Also, I’m with Ramona on this. If your shit is on a highway, it cannot be south of that highway.)  

Ramona may have been coasting with her businesses the last few years but she did enjoy success long before Bethenny.  Bethenny was arrogant and a pot calling the kettle black moment when she mentioned Ramona showing her tits.  Does Bethenny have a mirror?

[SuprSuprElevated]

It is ironic to me that Sonja's tag line contains the line "I'm more than a last name", or something like that.  I think she brings very little to the table.  Drunken antics are not in short supply here, so hers really aren't needed.  I suspect she will get herself involved in some serious shadiness this season, if she has any awarenes at all about how contracts are awarded.  Right now, she got nuthin' imo.

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

5 minutes ago, TexasGal said:

All evidence points to no.  Only paid people to fawn over her.

 

And he has to walk her dogs?!

Sorry about your puppy TG!

[SuprSuprElevated]

Technically, if B's house is not located on the pavement, and is on the south side of said pavement, then it's south of the highway.

There.  I've officially defended Bethenny for what I believe will be the one and only time.

[ButterQueen]

3 hours ago, ChitChat said:

LuAnn's costume reminded me of this scene from Designing Women:  
Designing Women as The Supremes

Loved that episode. Delta Burke was hilarious.

Edited April 5, 2018 by ButterQueen

[Jezebel97]

25 minutes ago, ancslove said:

Bethenny seemed as appreciative of Ramona’s donation as she was of Tinsley’s, and Beth isn’t that good an actor.  She’s more likely to shade the women who didn’t donate anything to her.  (I wonder if that’s part of her tiff with Carole.  I can’t imagine Carole not doing anything,  but I can see her choosing to give to an established organization, instead of Bethenny’s.). 

Didn’t Ramona previously insult one of the other women for living in the wrong part of the Hamptons?  

Yes, it was the forgettable Cindy Barshop & her home in Quogue

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/real-housewives-new-york-episode-4-ramona-pinot-polar-sonja-bucked-horse-article-1.109095

[esco1822]

12 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

I agreed with Ramona-a house on the highway cannot be south of the highway. 

I thought the issue was more that Ramona was shaming her for having a house on Montauk Highway because nobody who is anybody would ever choose to live on a "highway." Montauk Highway is a local highway and not like a crazy busy interstate.  South of Montauk Highway is just closer to the ocean which is presumably more exclusive. Ramona was throwing shade. 

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

5 hours ago, ancslove said:

 

Didn’t Ramona previously insult one of the other women for living in the wrong part of the Hamptons?  

No. Ramona didn't want to go all the way to Quogue in summer traffic for the horse riding. BETHENNY and Carole insulted Jules for living in the wrong part of the Hamptons. Different. 

Yes B  does own a mirror and she is too busy looking at herself to see her clothing.

She is despicable and her souless narcisissm is beyond the pale.  Charity is great, she has helped people who need help. Great. What rubs is her needing deeply to get filmed saying Feliz Navidad to the disadvantaged, photographed by her $$$$$ home sexy pose in this is a crisis shirt,  and needing to be filmed dropping off supplies and cash is the rich bitch equivalent of her old poor self needing the adulation of snapchatting putting a twenty in a guitar case of a busker on the Santa Monica Pier . It bugs me. ymmv. Girl needs help and to fill the bottomless pit of validation and need in a healthy way. 

Wonder how many lovers she has shrieked at NO YOU LISTEN TO ME RIGHT NOW. Bethenny is still her 4 yo self. 

Edited April 5, 2018 by Alonzo Mosely FBI

[LilaFowler]

34 minutes ago, ancslove said:

Bethenny seemed as appreciative of Ramona’s donation as she was of Tinsley’s, and Beth isn’t that good an actor.  She’s more likely to shade the women who didn’t donate anything to her.  (I wonder if that’s part of her tiff with Carole.  I can’t imagine Carole not doing anything,  but I can see her choosing to give to an established organization, instead of Bethenny’s.). 

Didn’t Ramona previously insult one of the other women for living in the wrong part of the Hamptons?  

Isn't that the reason why Bethenny only invited those who donated --Ramona and Tinsley-- to her awards reception, instead of the whole group?

Everyone dissed Quogue. LOL. Someone (maybe Luann?) refused to go there for Cindy's shindig.

[ivygirl]

10 hours ago, mbaywife123 said:

I have missed Ramona and her clueless delusions!

I almost fell off the couch onto the floor laughing at her speaking into Lu's fake costume microphone at the party like she was being interviewed for some real news show or that the audio was off for some reason during filming.

That was one of my favorite moments too! I often think “what is it that I *like* about Ramona?” And it’s stuff like that. 

7 hours ago, walnutqueen said:

I'm so sorry for your loss, @gatopretoNYC.  

I know everyone's bagging on Beth's very public grief over Cookie, but I have to say I almost understand it.  She feels the need to convey everything on social media; that's who she is.  The loss of a long time pet companion who has seen you through the many phases of your life is devastating, and can make you pretty fucking crazy.  I've been there, and done that, too many times to count in recent years, and my only social media outlet is these forums.  I'm fairly certain I've become totally unraveled and posted unconscionable things in my fugue stages of grief (which continue to arise to this day).  I still ugly cry on a regular basis - there's just no way a camera would ever capture an image of it, or me (unless it's the dreaded DMV pic).

Aww, Walnutqueen. I’d never blame you for any of that :( I just find Bethenny’s choices macabre. “Look at my dying dog! Watch me sob into the camera!” People grieve; it’s normal. We just don’t usually see the dying loved one (fur or human) die.

 

6 hours ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

Or that she could go as any number of caucasian female singers, many of whom oddly enough, are still living.  It was such a bad costume, that I had no idea who she was trying to portray.  For an instant, I thought Jackie Brown.  Certainly not Miss Diana Ross.  As if.

I thought Cher. She could’ve been a great Cher. 

3 hours ago, Sai said:

Ok, so what was up with Luann saying she suffered for 2 years?   Wasn't she only married for 6 months?  Prior to her getting married she was telling everyone how happy she was and how in love she was, that's why she got married.  If she was suffering the whole time then she should NOT have ever walked down that aisle.  Somewhere, somehow she got screwed up in the head and made some really bad choices.  I hope she can snap out of it.

She’s like Scheana on Vanderpump Rules, who claimed she loved her current boyfriend for the past 11 years—Lisa Vanderpump had to remind her: uh, you were dating and married to “the love of your life” for six (or whatever it was) of those years. Selective blackout memory. Denying reality in the moment (by effusing about how great things were) and then rewriting history by denying they’d initially ignored any problems. 

2 hours ago, biakbiak said:

Dont know what the original poster meant but its documented that she stole/borrowed the BS outfit from LSB.

Not sure what LSB is—Lip Sync Battle?

[HunterHunted]

15 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

Afro Love in the 70’s

Diana Ross may be singlehandedly responsible for the sales of more afro wigs than any other person alive. When she rocked her 70’s fro, it was large, in charge, glorious and glamorous.   https://www.essence.com/galleries/super-natural-afrobella-her-fave-diana-ross-hair-moments#534346

Maybe Luann was channeling 70's Diana Ross.  I didn't think Luann was trying to mock Diana Ross, anymore than Dorinda was mocking Lady Gaga or Ramona mocking Sritney spears.  To me accusing Luann of "blackface" is not within the traditional meaning.   It looked to me like Luann wanted a big headdress, a tight dress and an even bigger entrance.

Why is Carole so unhappy?  For some who is so down on others for being judgmental it does not stop with her.  Lighten up Carole.

In that gallery of looks that you linked to, only one is an afro. If you go through archives of Miss Ross, you'll see she rarely wore her hair in an afro. Even in the 70s.

https://www.essence.com/celebrity/diana-ross-hair-journey#1092910

Diana was far too mainstream to wear an afro constantly. It was a political statement. It's why it's more commonly associated with Angela Davis, blaxploitation films (Pam Grier), and the Black Panthers.

if Lu wanted to be Diana, she would have worn a big flowy wig, big lashes, and a red dress with a red boa. Miss Ross loves red.

[Duke2801]

27 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

Carole gave to different charity, an animal charity. It was Bethenny/Carole that made fun at Jule's house in the Hamptons, that it wasn't in the right location.

Yes, and lest we forget how utterly aghast that Ramona (and many of the others) were that they had to travel to .... QUOGUE for Cindy's party in season 4.  I mean, Quogue!?? How dreadful.  

23 minutes ago, Juliegirlj said:

No way in Hell can Carol run 20 miles, let alone, a marathon. When they showed her running with her trainer it looked like her shoes were tied together or something because she ran like a demented clown. 

Whichever housewife that first came up with the idea of filming with their household staff should be spanked- Bethenny’s driver seems nice and all, but, jeez, doesn’t she have ANY real friends in her life?! 

Sonja’s shtick has grown boring and predictable. 

Luann looked the best I’ve ever seen her on WWHL- apparently she quit drinking and smoking, and at least for now, dating. 

Love me some Dorinda~ drunk and sober. She fascinated me! 

She did, indeed, complete the marathon.

I agree that Lu looks great.  

[TV Diva Queen]

41 minutes ago, ancslove said:

Bethenny seemed as appreciative of Ramona’s donation as she was of Tinsley’s, and Beth isn’t that good an actor.  She’s more likely to shade the women who didn’t donate anything to her.  (I wonder if that’s part of her tiff with Carole.  I can’t imagine Carole not doing anything,  but I can see her choosing to give to an established organization, instead of Bethenny’s.). 

Didn’t Ramona previously insult one of the other women for living in the wrong part of the Hamptons?  

yeah - didn't she not want to attend one of the HW's parties because it was in the wrong section.  I remember Kelly was there.... but that's about it.  

[SuprSuprElevated]

Ramona pretty much insults someone every time she speaks.  I find her deplorable, and unlike Bethenny, I don't think she is a good person who hides it well.  I think she sucks at human.  One would think that coming from humble beginnings (I think, right?) would impart some humility into your soul.  Ramona appears to have none.  

Edited April 5, 2018 by SuprSuprElevated

[cyberfruit]

Luann's overly bronzed face was very sus to me, as a Black woman. And I echo others in here that she wasn't channeling Diana Ross -- not that Ms. Ross didn't wear her hair in a fro, she did, but really that look pales in comparison to her more known looks with The Supremes or her current style of having long, thick, wavy hair + glittery/shimmering/wind-catching gowns and caftans that she's been known for since the 80s. And then Luann's fro was so over the top that it actually killed any interpretation of her celebrity that she wanted to put forth. Just say you wanted to be a disco singer and go. 

When portraying other people, your outfit, makeup (shadow, lashes, lipstick), and accessories should tell the story. You do not, and should not, need to darken your skin in any shape or form in order to portray a celebrity of color. On the flip-side, if you want to portray an Asian celebrity, for instance, you shouldn't spackle your skin with ivory foundation.

If I can't tell who you're supposed to be at first glance, your costume isn't good enough. Turn around and try again. 

Edited April 5, 2018 by cyberfruit

[SuprSuprElevated]

1 hour ago, KungFuBunny said:

"I went on anti-depressants, went to France, and ate a bunch of crossaints. Then I got too fat, so it was off to Costa Rica to cleanse it all out!"

Why I mentioned a while ago that I don't buy the Sonja is broke arc.

[Luciano]

Doing blackface isn't just slapping on black paint and overexaggerated lips like the old minstrel shows (that's rarely done anymore unless you go Dutch-crazy with Zwarte Piete). If you apply something on your skin to darken it in order to portray someone of a different race, that is blackface (or redface or yellowface). It doesn't matter if your goal was to celebrate/honor that person, it's a shitty thing to do because of the connotation and history behind it. If you feel that it's needed for your costume, then your costume is crap. Maybe Luann should have focused on getting a wig with those big curls rather than slapping tanner all over herself.

Some people do this now and fall back on the excuse that, oh, it's just bronzer, it's not like I look like a golliwog, but I like the person I'm portraying - it doesn't matter. It's unnecessary and it's deliberately disregarding a history entrenched in racism.

Edited April 5, 2018 by Luciano

[Higgins]

So my bronzer is offensive? How about if I become tan from sun? Is that offensive too?

[Cherrio]

15 minutes ago, HunterHunted said:

In that gallery of looks that you linked to, only one is an afro. If you go through archives of Miss Ross, you'll see she rarely wore her hair in an afro. Even in the 70s.

https://www.essence.com/celebrity/diana-ross-hair-journey#1092910

Diana was far too mainstream to wear an afro constantly. It was a political statement. It's why it's more commonly associated with Angela Davis, blaxploitation films (Pam Grier), and the Black Panthers.

if Lu wanted to be Diana, she would have worn a big flowy wig, big lashes, and a red dress with a red boa. Miss Ross loves red.

Great post!

For a lot of folks who grew up in the 60's-70's and beyond, Diana and the Supremes were actually famous for their elaborate wigs and sequined gowns.  For the hit "Love Child" she decided to go natural to portray the woman she was singing about. It was very well publicized and a big deal to go from the wigs to a natural look. I still can visualize the photos during that time. 

The next time she chose to wear an afro was for 'Mahogany" her movie after 'Lady Sings the Blues". The oversized fro was for the movie.   

[absolutelyido]

55 minutes ago, Juliegirlj said:

Sonja’s shtick has grown boring and predictable. 

 

Yes! Sonja is the one RHNY cast member that I wish they would drop.