S08.E04: Lights Out!

[rho]

9 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

Then immediately started complaining about Kyle's dog. Bitch, don't ever complain about Kyle's dogs! How dare! 

Honestly, a worse crime than whatever she called Camille. Storm can eat all the pancakes she wants. Dorit can fuck off with that nonsense.

[oakville]

21 hours ago, QQQQ said:

This season Kyle's storylines have been reduced to an off-camera discussion with HH and a (fake) power outage. Seriously, it's time to call it quits and enjoy your fabulous life away from Bravo's clutches.

True, but I like Kyle. She is much better off without her sister causing chaos on the show. I don't like the renovations to her house. 

I can't figure out why Dorit was acting so rude at her party.

[QQQQ]

I like her too (relatively speaking), which is why I think she should get out while the gettin's good.

[AttackTurtle]

I don’t want Kyle to leave.  She’s pretty much the glue of the show.  Plus I could watch her husband shush Dorit over and over again (I don’t even really dislike Dorit....yet). Kyle also brings some House porn.  The first time she showed their new Palm Springs house was really a “Damn” moment.  

 

I kind if want Dorit to have been on something or completely ripped; otherwise she is just an awful person.

Edited January 11, 2018 by AttackTurtle

[Chit Chat]

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er kids are like 5 and 3 - definitely not too old for strollers.  My kids are the same age and we put them in the double-stroller if we're going to be on our feet for a while.  Kids that age just don't have the stamina to go for an hour walk, never less a run up a hill!

When Teddi said they were going to have some family time together, I thought she meant she was going to take them to a park or something where they could all do something fun together.   Sitting in a stroller while my parents competed over who was the bestest runner wouldn't be my idea of family time.  YMMV.   My parents took me and my brother camping and boating when we were kids, so Teddi's idea of family time in this situation  would be like my parents taking us camping but not letting us out of the camper!  Besides, the kids see plenty of other examples of how their parents are into health and fitness through their daily routine and diet.  Don't get me wrong, I have no issue with them taking them running and them being in the stroller, I just expected something different from "family time." 

I'm glad that Mauricio tried to get Dorit to shut up.  Clearly PK wasn't going to do anything meaningful such as take her drunk ass back home, so as the host, I think Mauricio did the right thing in trying to make his other guests more comfortable.  How embarrassing for Camille that this is the first impression of her friends that her new boyfriend sees.  

[UsernameFatigue]

I really liked Teddy and her husband this episode. I wish though that after Bravo showing the clip of Dorito telling Teddy at the Fancy Feast dinner than LisaR has schizophrenia (after PK said it first previously) that rather than Teddy saying in her TH that Dorito had two sides, she had said instead that Dorito had schizophrenia. Dorito needs to see how easy that can be thrown around. 

However Dorito was definitely on something stronger that booze IMO at Kyle's dinner. I enjoyed every minute of it though as it made Dorito look as classless as I have always felt she is. As someone else said, when PK is the one trying to shut Dorito up, there is a problem. Maybe Dorito's house of cards is about to collapse. I think she and PK have been living beyond their means for quite awhile, and maybe it is about to catch up to them. Someone has already reported that they do not actually own the house they live in (just have an interest in it), and I am sure other things will come out. Also, where is Boy George these days? Did he and PK part ways? 

I laughed through the whole modelling session - what a joke. When the woman associated with the magazine said she wanted Dorito because she is a working mom I almost choked on the sip of water I had just taken. Lets see, what job does she have other than RHOBH? And her nannies look after her kids. Her sole job these days seems to be becoming as obnoxious as possible. Good job, Dorito. 

[noveltylibrary]

22 hours ago, nexxie said:

Dorit is so insecure she can’t function without her own glam squad at all times - to powder her nose and prop up her ego.

I am willing to bet if Camille's bf wasn't good looking, she wouldn't have acted up.  It was pretty obvious she was responding (badly) to this guy newly introduced out of what, jealousy? Insecurity that her husband's looks aren't up to par? 

[howivesforever]

I just watched the episode and my honest opinion is Dorit was drunk off her ass but the stuff Camille said wasn't much better so I don't really get why she's so offended. Well except calling her a c u next Tuesday! And Rhinna and the blowjob book discussion with her daughter was to much. Even Erika was shocked.

[sasha206]

22 hours ago, WhoaWhoKnew said:

I can't stand Dorit's wannabe quirky behavior. It's clearly an act. 

Agreed.  I liked her last year, despite that crazy ass accent!  Now she seems to be morphing into a caricature of herself.

Edited January 11, 2018 by sasha206

[Double A]

23 hours ago, Jets4274 said:

That party planner looks like a hot mess.

Totally. But he handles Kyle's breakdowns beautifully. When he mimicked her about calling everyone to cancel I did a spit take. She has the worst luck with parties. It's like an evil wind blows through every time and something crazy jumps off.

[sasha206]

I don't know if it is the harsh makeup with the ridiculous outfits, but Erika Jayne looks like she aged 10 years in between seasons.

[Double A]

22 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

She totally pre gamed with something before she got to Kyle's house.

I was going with a ton of drinking on an empty stomach but ok. She could use a good reason cuz homegirl was tripping. 

[gundysgirl]

1 hour ago, noveltylibrary said:

I am willing to bet if Camille's bf wasn't good looking, she wouldn't have acted up.  It was pretty obvious she was responding (badly) to this guy newly introduced out of what, jealousy? Insecurity that her husband's looks aren't up to par? 

Except she was acting horribly before the dude ever showed up. 

[Double A]

21 hours ago, shadyqueen said:

Side eyed so hard when Dorit was asking Mauricio if he spoke Spanish or English to Teddi's husband. She is such a spaz.

Right! I did not know what was happening and Mauricio was SO polite. Dorit was fussing about the damn dog but she's the one with no home training.

[rho]

1 hour ago, UsernameFatigue said:

I laughed through the whole modelling session - what a joke. When the woman associated with the magazine said she wanted Dorito because she is a working mom I almost choked on the sip of water I had just taken. Lets see, what job does she have other than RHOBH? And her nannies look after her kids. Her sole job these days seems to be becoming as obnoxious as possible. Good job, Dorito. 

I particularly loved the smug look on LVP's face when she asked about modeling experience and Dorit said she modeled her own swimwear line. 

Also, I'm not really sure why Dorit was so hung up on her glam team. The whole point is they needed a hand model. They cropped out her face save for the neck and a sliver of chin.

18 minutes ago, Double A said:

Totally. But he handles Kyle's breakdowns beautifully. When he mimicked her about calling everyone to cancel I did a spit take. She has the worst luck with parties. It's like an evil wind blows through every time and something crazy jumps off.

That's so true!! But I think one of the things I like about her is how she always rolls with it. There's the freakout at the beginning but by the time everyone shows up she's appropriately tipsy. She seems to be the only HW who actually enjoys herself at the own parties. Glenn probably deserves some of the credit for that too!

[gundysgirl]

36 minutes ago, Double A said:

Totally. But he handles Kyle's breakdowns beautifully. When he mimicked her about calling everyone to cancel I did a spit take. She has the worst luck with parties. It's like an evil wind blows through every time and something crazy jumps off.

He does handle her beautifully.

One of the things I have always loved about Kyle is the way she is nervously anxious before her parties. This is me. Even if the gathering is small. I want it to be perfect. I love the fact that she cares so much about it being a really good party and making sure everyone is happy with the result. 

[ITALIA]

8 hours ago, WordsWordsWords said:

Dorit doesn't disappoint, does she, in the "Can she top her last episode of nastiness?" sweepstakes. Because, yes, she can. Not for one moment in this episode was she less than revolting. When that walrus she's married to tries (and fails) to calm her down at the dinner table, well, that's just beyond grotesque. To be honest, in the Lisa R. vs. Dorit squabble, I'm pretty much Team Rinna. Dorit *did* do things -- and continues to do them -- to hurt Rinna. She hasn't taken one iota of responsibility for her part in any of that. Rinna should watch her back, and I'm not even a big Lisa Rinna fan, not even close.

Once in a while, I'm very happy I gave up meat. Watching Erika and Lisa R. eating (or not eating) Japanese food is one of those times. On the other hand, what did they expect?

I don't know why Kyle wanted to take out the hardwoods and replace with marble. She'll regret that decision, I think.

Probably because since marble is more than hardwood, she can BRAG about the cost. TYPICAL spoiled, rich beyotch.

Edited January 11, 2018 by ITALIA

[twilightzone]

I have always found Dorit to be pretentious, downright annoying and an entitled snob.  Look at the misogynist she is married too.  Look at how she continues makes excuses for his bad behavior. 

Gurl was obviously tripping on - something.  Shades of a belligerent Kim Richards and Poker Night.   And like Kim, Dorit will spin this and shift the blame.

Edited January 11, 2018 by twilightzone

[ITALIA]

6 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

I agree that Teddi is in amazing shape! But was she snarking/dissing Edwin for failing to keep up with her while he was pushing a double stroller loaded up with two kids?

 I guess that I am a sh-- stirring beyotch, too, because I am curious how you all felt about LVP joking about the photo shoot being a hand job, and her magazine assistant's private life? If LVP were a man, and the assistant a woman? Or is it okay because they are good friends?

NOTE to Teddi - Get over yourself - you're NOT all that, and your husband is REALLY homely, horse-face. Your job is an accountability coach? LMAO.

Edited January 11, 2018 by ITALIA

[Double A]

8 hours ago, Misslindsey said:

I have been a bit over LVP and Kyle for a couple of seasons now. I do not really like or dislike them, but their friendship with Dorit might make me dislike them.

Those two can pick some doozies. The infamous Faye Resnick comes immediately to mind who Kyle inexplicably defends to the death and my gawd she was always up Taylor's tragic ass. LVP gets burnt by her playthings (remember the live in houseboy from season 1?) and Brandi. They need to cut Dorit loose with a quickness tho. 

[noveltylibrary]

1 hour ago, howivesforever said:

I just watched the episode and my honest opinion is Dorit was drunk off her ass but the stuff Camille said wasn't much better so I don't really get why she's so offended. Well except calling her a c u next Tuesday! And Rhinna and the blowjob book discussion with her daughter was to much. Even Erika was shocked.

I think I missed something I don't know what Camille said that would make them call her a guy (godfather) because she has no uterus.

[Double A]

6 hours ago, Kokapetl said:

I was a little disappointed when I saw the stroller. Quality Family Time hiking is a little less impressive when it’s actually mum and dad pushing the kids stroller up and down hills. And aren’t they too old for strollers?

Yeah that was weird. I was all ready for The Incredibles running through the canyon but it even looked like her daughter was passed out like wake me when I get my ipad back. 

6 hours ago, SweetieDarling said:

Hadidn'ts

Perfect.

[Rahul]

1 hour ago, ChitChat said:

I'm glad that Mauricio tried to get Dorit to shut up.  Clearly PK wasn't going to do anything meaningful such as take her drunk ass back home, so as the host, I think Mauricio did the right thing in trying to make his other guests more comfortable.  How embarrassing for Camille that this is the first impression of her friends that her new boyfriend sees.  

Except that they're not really friends, are they? These Howives (maybe with the exception of LVP and Kyle) are just work colleagues who tolerate each other's company for a paycheck from Bravo. This behavior is really par for the course when it comes to the network--it's not PBS.

That being said, I do think Dorit was coked up and also possibly amping up her behavior because she and her shady grifter husband are the couple most in need of a rapid Bravo cash infusion to support their Beverly Hills lifestyle.

[MatildaMoody]

I feel weird even saying anything about this, but here goes. I've been Dorit. I can't hate on her "accent" because I have the thickest Southern drawl anyone has ever heard, and spent years of speech classes getting rid of it, only to have it turn up whenever I am around other people with a Southern accent (and I live in Georgia). I actually spend most of my work days insecurely wondering if the people I speak to (from California and the Midwest) believe I am faking their accent and making a mess of it.

I have been the totally insecure woman who drank way too much to assuage social interactions with people I knew had their lives more together than me. I've been the loud talker who didn't realize I was insulting someone to their face because I was too drunk, and so wanting to prove that I was just as good as everyone else in the room. I cringe with embarrassment every time I think about those past interactions, but it doesn't change the fact that I was the one trying so hard to fit in with a roomful of folks I was way too insecure to be drunk around in the first place.  Thankfully, my more together friends forgave me. But, I can't imagine having that kind of moment in front of TV cameras when it was my job to be dramatic. 

I'm not saying she deserves a pass, because lord knows my friends came to me with the receipts of just how bad my behavior was. I'm just having a hard time judging her for it. She spent all last season having to defend herself, her husband, and her parenting. And, she had to defend it to the audience more than the women she actually dealt with. I couldn't imagine having to explain parenting choices to an audience of strangers. Nor, could I imagine having to explain my husband to that same audience because he isn't as handsome or as rich as Mauricio. But, I've been in a similar place, so I have a hard time judging her for being drunk and crazy during filming. Now, if she pulls a Brandy or a Tamra from OC and physically attacks someone, that is a whole other story. 

But, for now, I can't hate Dorit. I can't hate her for having nannies anymore than any of the other women these shows do. I certainly can't hate her for being too drunk to manage herself on camera at a dinner party. I can't even hate her for being pretentious. She is obviously insecure about her place on the show, and she hasn't done anything to actually harm the other women or their livelihoods. It seems that the only person she is actually hurting is herself. And, even that appears to be hurting herself with the audience rather than the other women. 

So, I get that her behavior was the most dramatic stuff the editors could come up with for this episode, but I feel sorry for her more than hatred or even a mild dislike. 

Edited January 11, 2018 by MatildaMoody

[CrinkleCutCat]

You are lovely MatildaMoody x

[SweetieDarling]

5 hours ago, Normades said:

OMG!!  I love that --- Hadidn'ts!!  It's perfection!!

 

I cannot take credit for it. One of our brilliant posters came up with it in one of the previous episodes, but I agree it's perfect for them.

[MatildaMoody]

5 minutes ago, CrinkleCutCat said:

You are lovely MatildaMoody x

Thank you. You are so sweet. 

[Cranky One]

4 minutes ago, MatildaMoody said:

I feel weird even saying anything about this, but here goes. I've been Dorit. I can't hate on her "accent" because I have the thickest Southern drawl anyone has ever heard, and spent years of speech classes getting rid of it, only to have it turn up whenever I am around other people with a Southern accent. I actually spend most of my work days insecurely wondering if the people I speak (from California and the Midwest) believe I am faking their accent and making a mess of it.

 

I'm a native Ohioian (although haven't lived there for 35 years), but do not have a Midwestern accent. I've also lived in CA and TX, with TX being the longest. I have lived in MS for the past 2 years and have had maybe 3 people ask me where I'm from. I don't think most people even notice that I don't have a southern accent. So, I'm betting people don't notice yours. :) The funny thing is that my good friend who was born and raised in San Antonio and has never lived anywhere else is the one that sounds like she's from the Midwest! lol

[RHJunkie]

I think Teddi is trying too hard to make her point that she wasn't a spoiled Hollywood kid and that she's now a grounded, well-adjusted adult. Not to say that I think she's putting up a front, but she's doing too much talking to make her point rather than organically telling her story and letting the audience appreciate her upbringing. 

I got a genuinely good laugh listening to Rinna claim that while it's easier for Hollywood kids to get their foot in the door, it's harder for them to prove themselves. I don't believe that for a second, especially when they have the luxury of a celebrity platform that designers are surely smart enough to capitalize on. Doesn't mean that you're going to go far if you totally suck as a model but I do believe that those celebrity ties are a can tip the scale in their favour over a model that may be more experienced or noticeably better.

The only entertaining thing about this episode was seeing Erika's very relatable reactions to the crap that Millennials are obsessed with. Technically, I'm part of the Millennial generation but even I scratch my head trying to figure my generation out. People getting rich off of Vine and Youtube for eating large amounts of food, cutting up squishy toys and all around making fools of themselves for some likes and retweets. There are not enough words to explain my disbelief that these things exist and people become rich and famous for it. 

[MatildaMoody]

1 minute ago, Cranky One said:

I'm a native Ohioian (although haven't lived there for 35 years), but do not have a Midwestern accent. I've also lived in CA and TX, with TX being the longest. I have lived in MS for the past 2 years and have had maybe 3 people ask me where I'm from. I don't think most people even notice that I don't have a southern accent. So, I'm betting people don't notice yours. :) The funny thing is that my good friend who was born and raised in San Antonio and has never lived anywhere else is the one that sounds like she's from the Midwest! lol

Accents are so funny like that. I'm originally from Alabama and when my family moved to South Florida, my guidance counselor insisted I go to speech classes. He told me that people constantly discounted his intelligence because of his Cuban accent and he wanted to make sure I didn't have to deal with that same discrimination since I obviously belonged in AP classes. To this day, I'm still grateful to him for that, but it's really difficult trying to explain the whole "accent" thing to people who have never experienced it.  

[SweetieDarling]

1 minute ago, MatildaMoody said:

Accents are so funny like that. I'm originally from Alabama and when my family moved to South Florida, my guidance counselor insisted I go to speech classes. He told me that people constantly discounted his intelligence because of his Cuban accent and he wanted to make sure I didn't have to deal with that same discrimination since I obviously belonged in AP classes. To this day, I'm still grateful to him for that, but it's really difficult trying to explain the whole "accent" thing to people who have never experienced it.  

I now live 2hr south of where I grew up (who knew crossing the Mason-Dixon Line would be such a culture shock?!)  Once in Costco, I got into it with the cashier about the football jersey I had on, and he said to his helper, "She even does the accent!" I had no idea. My one son and I get into playful conversations about how to pronounce "water"(wooder vs waahter - yes, I'm an "Iggles" fan -it ain't easy).

[JAYJAY1979]

Kyle basically has a boring life... but sometimes boring can be good.

Dorit reminds me of Taylor.. must be that grifter tinge she gives off.

I don't get why celebrities like Rinna, Kris, and Yolanda insist on their kids going into modeling when they have the money to send their kids to good schools to study whatever their dreams and career aspirations are.  It boggles my mind.

As a kid, my parents sent me to speech therapists because I didn't pronounce my R's correctly... and people asked my  parents if we ever lived in Boston.  As an adult, I told my mom that they could have saved so much money on speech lessons if they only thought to move to Boston.

Edited January 11, 2018 by JAYJAY1979

[Aim123]

6 hours ago, ghoulina said:

Yea, I thought - they watched her eat to live vicariously through her. Very odd behavior. 

I agree with this. I think this is the new thing girls with eating disorders do. Watch someone else eat, because they "can't."

[BBHN]

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I can't hate on her "accent" because I have the thickest Southern drawl anyone has ever heard, and spent years of speech classes getting rid of it, only to have it turn up whenever I am around other people with a Southern accent (and I live in Georgia). I actually spend most of my work days insecurely wondering if the people I speak to (from California and the Midwest) believe I am faking their accent and making a mess of it.

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I'm a native Ohioian (although haven't lived there for 35 years), but do not have a Midwestern accent. I've also lived in CA and TX, with TX being the longest. I have lived in MS for the past 2 years and have had maybe 3 people ask me where I'm from. I don't think most people even notice that I don't have a southern accent. So, I'm betting people don't notice yours. :) The funny thing is that my good friend who was born and raised in San Antonio and has never lived anywhere else is the one that sounds like she's from the Midwest! lol

Yeah but it isn't like you're going around and suddenly speaking English with an Irish or Australian accent all of a sudden...

[stcroix]

I can't believe what I just watched was almost 3/4 Rinna or Rinna and her (average looking but with famous last name) girls or Rinna and Erica.  How did she take over the show?!  I want more Kyle, her family, her home, her shopping, HER.  And more LVP!  Those two seem more the real deal than the rest of this put-together group. 

How about just a show revolving around Kyles family?  She has the best hubby, kids and pets!  LVP could guest star as her best friend who gets up to hijinks with her and goes to lunch or shopping with her.  Throw us a bone, Bravo!

[candle96]

I'm sorry, I usually try to go easy on the kids of the Ho'Wives, as it's not their choice that their parents decided to do a reality show. But I could go for 10 more seasons of this show with never seeing or hearing from the Rinna girls. Leaving aside the fact that they do NOT seem like model material in any way (sorry, it's true), they're awful. Spoiled, boring and bored, and way too full of themselves. I could not care less about what they're doing. Talking about being exhausted from flying all over the world on someone else's dime is obnoxious. Just stop trying to make them happen, Lisa, Bravo, etc. Please! Make it stop!

 

I may be in the minority on this, but I kind of loved Erika's Tokyo outfits and hair. For once, her over-the-top looks actually fit in. (for those not familiar with Tokyo, google "Harajuku.") Well, except for that tea house they went to. I thought she looked pretty stunning in the pink wig outfit, but I was surprised to see they were going somewhere for lunch, and then such a quiet and secluded place at that. That seemed like much more of a nighttime/dinner outfit. And then she showed up to dinner looking relatively normal. Go figure. I did appreciate how nice and gracious Lisa and Erika were with the tea house folks, even if they weren't crazy about the food.

 

Dorit's behavior during the photo shoot and Kyle's dinner was beyond awful. Are we really supposed to believe that a BH's luxury magazine's hair and makeup people are inferior to the glam squad who gave her greasy gold leaf hair? Please. Kyle was way nicer towards her than I'd be.  If someone repeatedly complained about the setup of my home, especially things beyond my control, I'd suggest they were free to leave at anytime. 

[ivygirl]

3 hours ago, rho said:

Also, I'm not really sure why Dorit was so hung up on her glam team. The whole point is they needed a hand model. They cropped out her face save for the neck and a sliver of chin.

As hand model extraordinaire George Costanza said, “Stress is very damaging to the epidermis.”

[Martinigirl]

16 hours ago, BusyOctober said:

Dorit and all her complaining at Kyle's was just too much.  She is rude and a horrible guest (she is a horrible hostess as well). You know it's bad if you're in a room full of people, including PK, & YOU are the one to make people cringe, Dorit. There were at least 8 other people around the table and no one else bitched as much as Do-Do-Dorit. It's one thing to kid around with Kyle about the power outage, and make a joke out of it. But then, you drop it. Enjoy the food, the company and compliment the hostess on "powering" through a crazy situation.  And when she asked Kyle if she had any fans to help cool down the party, I really wish Kyle looked at her and said, "And just where would we plug these fans in, you moron?  There. Is. No. Power."  Or did Drunky McDrunkerson expect Kyle and Mauricio to get palm fronds and manually wave them around her & sweaty pig-man PK? Can't wait for Dorit's "sorry, not sorry" explanation of her awful behavior. Better get my optic nerves and muscles in shape for all the pending eye rolling ahead.

Add me to the group who doesn't see the model-esque beauty in those Hamlin girls.They're pretty, but not stand out stunning IMO.  And Lisa Rinna reeeeallly wants to be Kris KarTrashian-Jenner, doesn't she? I guess if young girls think the KarTrashian spawn are "inspirational", then the dopey fame whore parents must think Kris is the epitome of a "great mom".  

Kyle should have asked Dorit if she was having a hot flash

22 hours ago, yourmomiseasy said:

I don't know anyone in Southern California that has a back up generator.  We don't have a lot of power outages and definitely not extended ones.  We don't have a lot of extreme weather that would cause outages.  I can think of one big multi-day outage in LA in the last 20 years. 

 

ETA thinking about it more, I know someone that has a generator at their vacation cabin in Big Bear, but that's kind of a different situation since it is in the mountains and there's snow and it is more remote and not in the city.

WE've had one outage in 20 years and my neighbor (house no where near the price of Kyle's) has a whole house generator.  Not to mention, for the HW's the cost is chump change

[Martinigirl]

15 hours ago, njbchlover said:

And, again, we had to hear Erika announce the designer label of her clothes.  It's tiresome - we know all these ladies wear mostly high end labels/designers - enough already!!  

But, as soon as Erika and Rinna walked into that restaurant/home, I knew Erika was going to have to remove her shoes/boots.  I loved that!  I think that Erika wears everything designer, and she does it as a confirmation that she is rich and can afford it.  She wears her designer garments/shoes like an armor as protection against where she came from/what she was.  Having to remove her Gucci boots removed a bit of that armor.

The difference (IMO) is Erika played it down basically saying they were old when asked . Kyle walks in holding that bag (uncomfortably) for all to see and hoping to god someone will ask her about the damn thing. Dorit - needs no explanation. 

[HunterHunted]

2 hours ago, JAYJAY1979 said:

I don't get why celebrities like Rinna, Kris, and Yolanda insist on their kids going into modeling when they have the money to send their kids to good schools to study whatever their dreams and career aspirations are.  It boggles my mind.

Umm, because they have no education either and they became wealthy and successful due to their looks. They pay lip service to education and schooling. Even though the fathers of these kids all went to college, if the moms were the primary caregiver I don't know there is much you could do if school was not part of the mom's set of values. The contrast is Kyle and Mauricio. All of those kids are going to college, which is going to be a first among the sisters. Kathy couldn't manage it and she's a Hilton. It wasn't part of Big Kathy's values either. Though, if my kid had the kind if meteoric ascension that Gigi and Bella did, I might tell them to put school on the back burner. I'd probably recommend that they take a class or two online while focusing on the modeling phase of their life.

However, it's pretty doubtful that the Hamlets/Hadidn't sisters will have careers that are as successful. One is too short. The other might grow into a half decent model.

Edited January 11, 2018 by HunterHunted

[ivygirl]

2 minutes ago, HunterHunted said:

Umm, because they have no education either and they became wealthy and successful due to their looks. They pay lip service to education and schooling. Even though the fathers of these kids all went to college, if the moms were the primary caregiver I don't know there is much you could do if school was not part of the mom's set of values. The contrast is Kyle and Mauricio. All of those kids are going to college, which is going to be a first among the sisters. Kathy couldn't manage it and she's a Hilton. It wasn't part of Big Kathy's values either. Though, if my kid had the kind if meteoric ascension that Gigi and Bella did, I might tell them to put school on the back burner. I'd probably recommend that they take a class or two online while focusing on the modeling phase of their life.

However, it's pretty doubtful that the Hamlets/Hadidn't sisters will have careers that are as successful. One is too short. The other might grow into a half decent model.

I think Gigi, at least, had planned on college—she started it, and then (as you note) paused for her career. Of any of them, she seems to be the most level headed. And, IMO, the one who’s most traditionally a “model” type. I wouldn’t be surprised if she went back and took classes to take on a new stage in her career. The Hamlets? Not so much.

[zulualpha]

4 hours ago, Double A said:

I was going with a ton of drinking on an empty stomach but ok. She could use a good reason cuz homegirl was tripping. 

yeah I'd be willing to bet Dorit and PK downed at least one bottle of wine on the car ride over and Pk can hold his liquor because he's British and he eats.  Dorit and for that matter none of the women eats worth shit. Edamame without salt, sushi, salad and whatever that bean dish Dorit made for her dinner party has been the extent of the eating.  Liquid calories only. And of course they're all very slim with the exception of maybe Kyle who has a little extra in the hips and thighs.  Dorit may have been a little over the top at Lisa's photo shoot but I agree with her about the pics.  They were not good shots of her. Very basic.

I have bonded with Teddi Jo, former fat girl.  She gives no fucks about what anyone thinks and seems to lay her cards on the table not holding much back.  She used to be fat, her relationship with her husband started out as a one night stand and she would have done just about anything to get him to propose to her.  Then when she won $800 at the casino and proceeded to treat it like a fabulous windfall that she would immediately cash in made me love her even more.  Sometimes the BH hws can be very over the top with their lifestyles and spending.  It's nice to have one that appreciates a buck.

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3 hours ago, RHJunkie said:

I think Teddi is trying too hard to make her point that she wasn't a spoiled Hollywood kid and that she's now a grounded, well-adjusted adult. Not to say that I think she's putting up a front, but she's doing too much talking to make her point rather than organically telling her story and letting the audience appreciate her upbringing. 

I got a genuinely good laugh listening to Rinna claim that while it's easier for Hollywood kids to get their foot in the door, it's harder for them to prove themselves. I don't believe that for a second, especially when they have the luxury of a celebrity platform that designers are surely smart enough to capitalize on. Doesn't mean that you're going to go far if you totally suck as a model but I do believe that those celebrity ties are a can tip the scale in their favour over a model that may be more experienced or noticeably better.

The only entertaining thing about this episode was seeing Erika's very relatable reactions to the crap that Millennials are obsessed with. Technically, I'm part of the Millennial generation but even I scratch my head trying to figure my generation out. People getting rich off of Vine and Youtube for eating large amounts of food, cutting up squishy toys and all around making fools of themselves for some likes and retweets. There are not enough words to explain my disbelief that these things exist and people become rich and famous for it. 

I have a hard time with Teddi as we are four episodes in and mostly what I hear from her is how she loves to spend time with her family.  I believe she said it two or three different ways this week and more to come next week.  She committed to a six figure job that films for three months and is mostly going to parties or on trips please, please find something new to talk about.  She has a nice family.  

My other issue with Teddi is she seems to be a little tone deaf on the subject of Rinna.  I for one was quite shocked when Kyle said Rinna was her friend but they were not close.  LVP threw another clue out there for Teddi to catch. Bells should be going off in Teddi's head.  It isn't just Dorit who has issues with Rinna.  Last night on WWHL, LVP mentioned Rinna believes because she keeps saying she is a changed person, a nice person doesn't make it is true.  I thought Teddi line about Dorit being a show pony was perfect description of Dorit and the way she behaved at Kyle's.

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I think Gigi, at least, had planned on college—she started it, and then (as you note) paused for her career. Of any of them, she seems to be the most level headed. And, IMO, the one who’s most traditionally a “model” type. I wouldn’t be surprised if she went back and took classes to take on a new stage in her career. The Hamlets? Not so much.

One other thing is, the Hadid kids have a much bigger windfall cushion if the modeling thing doesn't work out and they have no college degrees, between Mohammed and Yolanda's financial status. While Harry and Lisa are wealthier than the average person, they're not quite in Mo and Yo's league, financially. Having rich parents does mean kids can explore less traditional careers and still have a safety net should things not work out.

Of course, regardless of how much money the parents have, getting a college degree is always a plus, and doesn't hurt to have one. Which is why I respect Kyle and her kids. Despite how much money their parents have, they seem to understand the value a college education can provide.

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19 hours ago, Petunia13 said:

He is dating Kat McPhee. She's singer and actress. 

 

Yolanda's daughters Gigi and Bella aren't the most smartest or articulate models around 

But they do have more charisma and photograph more strikingly than Rinnas daughters. She shouldn't invite comparison. 

They destroyed Bella's beauty. Her nose is too small and narrow for her face  and lacks a bridge. It takes away from her beauty.

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7 hours ago, RHJunkie said:

I got a genuinely good laugh listening to Rinna claim that while it's easier for Hollywood kids to get their foot in the door, it's harder for them to prove themselves. I don't believe that for a second, especially when they have the luxury of a celebrity platform that designers are surely smart enough to capitalize on. Doesn't mean that you're going to go far if you totally suck as a model but I do believe that those celebrity ties are a can tip the scale in their favour over a model that may be more experienced or noticeably better.

Amen.  We've reached an age now where having a name -- a celebrity's name -- is more important in the modeling world than actual looks.  Designers know that by using the children of celebrities they will get their wares posted all over social media.  The Hadids at least have unusual beauty.  Rinna's daughters are just thin and at most kinda cute.   There is absolutely no way these girls would get a plum gig without being a celebuspawn.

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I assumed the Teddy jogging in the canyon scene was edited to purposely make her look bad.    She was talking ahead of time about family time and being active and then they go on this hike and the kids don’t even move a muscle!   It was all about her and her work out.    And that line about wanting her kids to have a joking banter about their parents’ love ...  I’ve never heard such a clunky, overly thought out, just bizarre sentence in my entire life.  I understand her point, but there is no need to be that deliberate about it.   It seems like Teddy is her number one focus, then comes her and Edwin’s Love and then the kids.   Stuff them in a stroller and let them pass out.   She asked them at the end if they had fun .... uh, I doubt it.   

LVP looked great in the black dress meeting with those magazine people.    Then in other scenes, she looked extremely hippy and wide below the waist.   Much different than she’s looked in the past.   

Dorit ... no words.  Can’t stand her,never could stand her ... 

Camille fascinates me.   She looked stunning at Kyles, although I thought her pants looked too big on her.   As great as she always looks on the show, she looks like the wax lady in still shots. Scary.   I would kill for her body though.  

I still don’t think kyles house renovation was necessary.   It was such an awesome, comfortable classic house.   Why mess with it?   She’s dumb as dirt, but you’d think Mauricio being in real estate would have more sense than to tear such a nice home apart.   Remember their last home .... with the giant Buddha??  Maybe he has no sense either and this cute Cape Cod in Bel Air was a fluke.   

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1 hour ago, sasha206 said:

Amen.  We've reached an age now where having a name -- a celebrity's name -- is more important in the modeling world than actual looks.  Designers know that by using the children of celebrities they will get their wares posted all over social media.  The Hadids at least have unusual beauty.  Rinna's daughters are just thin and at most kinda cute.   There is absolutely no way these girls would get a plum gig without being a celebuspawn.

This is probably true, but I liked the fact that Rinna acknowledged this. Would Yolanda have ever said the same? That her daughters had a leg up on the competition initially because of their famous names? I get that the Hadid gals seems more like "model material", but I remember a few years when the talk was often about the fact that doors opened wider and easier for them because of their parents. Rinna just completely owned that fact. Rinna can be a mess, and I have little doubt that she will be a mess this year as well, but I do think that she owns things in a way that others do not. She is honest about her hustle (maybe not honest about everything else, which I realize), but I think she is much more honest in some ways and about some things than the others often are. 

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13 minutes ago, gundysgirl said:

This is probably true, but I liked the fact that Rinna acknowledged this. Would Yolanda have ever said the same? That her daughters had a leg up on the competition initially because of their famous names? I get that the Hadid gals seems more like "model material", but I remember a few years when the talk was often about the fact that doors opened wider and easier for them because of their parents. Rinna just completely owned that fact. Rinna can be a mess, and I have little doubt that she will be a mess this year as well, but I do think that she owns things in a way that others do not. She is honest about her hustle (maybe not honest about everything else, which I realize), but I think she is much more honest in some ways and about some things than the others often are. 

I agree with this.  No, Yolanda would never admit that her girls weren't the beneficiary of her reality fame.  And honestly, while I think Gigi has unusual beauty, I don't think she's model material really.  I don't see her face aging well -- very round and the thinner she gets the more unhealthy looking her face is.  Bella to me seems more modelesque with the high cheekbones, but that nose job...yikes.  

[gundysgirl]

9 hours ago, MatildaMoody said:

I feel weird even saying anything about this, but here goes. I've been Dorit. I can't hate on her "accent" because I have the thickest Southern drawl anyone has ever heard, and spent years of speech classes getting rid of it, only to have it turn up whenever I am around other people with a Southern accent (and I live in Georgia). I actually spend most of my work days insecurely wondering if the people I speak to (from California and the Midwest) believe I am faking their accent and making a mess of it.

I have been the totally insecure woman who drank way too much to assuage social interactions with people I knew had their lives more together than me. I've been the loud talker who didn't realize I was insulting someone to their face because I was too drunk, and so wanting to prove that I was just as good as everyone else in the room. I cringe with embarrassment every time I think about those past interactions, but it doesn't change the fact that I was the one trying so hard to fit in with a roomful of folks I was way too insecure to be drunk around in the first place.  Thankfully, my more together friends forgave me. But, I can't imagine having that kind of moment in front of TV cameras when it was my job to be dramatic. 

I'm not saying she deserves a pass, because lord knows my friends came to me with the receipts of just how bad my behavior was. I'm just having a hard time judging her for it. She spent all last season having to defend herself, her husband, and her parenting. And, she had to defend it to the audience more than the women she actually dealt with. I couldn't imagine having to explain parenting choices to an audience of strangers. Nor, could I imagine having to explain my husband to that same audience because he isn't as handsome or as rich as Mauricio. But, I've been in a similar place, so I have a hard time judging her for being drunk and crazy during filming. Now, if she pulls a Brandy or a Tamra from OC and physically attacks someone, that is a whole other story. 

But, for now, I can't hate Dorit. I can't hate her for having nannies anymore than any of the other women these shows do. I certainly can't hate her for being too drunk to manage herself on camera at a dinner party. I can't even hate her for being pretentious. She is obviously insecure about her place on the show, and she hasn't done anything to actually harm the other women or their livelihoods. It seems that the only person she is actually hurting is herself. And, even that appears to be hurting herself with the audience rather than the other women. 

So, I get that her behavior was the most dramatic stuff the editors could come up with for this episode, but I feel sorry for her more than hatred or even a mild dislike. 

I think you are incredibly sweet and compassionate in your comments regarding Dorit.

The thing for me is that I don't think that Dorit had a lot of confrontation last season about her parenting. Not from the gals on the show. She had Rinna making the comment about her and PK doing coke at her party, but that was mainly met with shock by the others, and Rinna was condemned for her statement.  I don't remember the others making a big thing about her parenting. Was she judged by the public? She was. But Camille was judged horribly for her parenting by fans. LVP has been called out for literally loving one child to the moon and back, and the other - not so much. Yolanda was talked about in the press all the time for favoring Gigi, and some took to calling Bella "the other one" because it seemed as though Yolanda didn't care as much for her. Yolanda was also judged for the eating stuff with the girls, and for what appeared to some to be her passionate desire to make them modeling superstars at the expense of a good college education. Certainly Erika has been demonized constantly for the way she mothered - or didn't mother - her son. Many people have had plenty to say about Rinna as a parent. But I just don't remember Dorit having to do more than most on the show to prove that she loved her kids because of judgments from the other gals. 

I also think that one thing that is strange about Dorit's behavior is that she didn't come on this season as the beaten down HW. She has the two most powerful people on the show on her side in LVP and Kyle. She is the one who introduced the new gal, so she had an immediate and easy new friend on the show this season. She and Erika cleared the air right from the start of the season, seeming to have a good time together. Rinna was all about making up with her. This girl entered this part of the season in a really good place. As good of a place as any of the other HW's. So why is she so insecure about it all? What would make her be so nasty to her friend LVP at that photo shoot? The friend who got her to this place on the show and has been unwavering in her support of Dorit and PK? What would make her be such a crappy guest at her friend Kyle's party? She was a complete and total bitch from the minute she arrived.