S12.E14: Armenian Rhapsody

[JAYJAY1979]

That child has video proof for his therapist :)

Also,  Shannon shouldn't be surprised that Diko approached her since her husband got in Vicki's face last season.  So fair game.

Tamra and Vicki are a couple that need to break up.  That means both need to  leave the show.

[Hockey Addict]

Peggy=overindulged,cspoiled, boring, resting bitch face. That's it. The chicken fingers at my local deli have more personality. Okay, Hockey Addict's ranting. I might need a hookah but not an Armenian hookah.

[remmybrat]

BRONZEDOG      I don't the kid minds being called Koko, when I was a kid some people called me Koko or Cookie and I never had a problem with it.

[realitytvbitch980]

I'm just shocked at what a snooze this season has been so far. Maybe its just me. And Peggy and her husband add absolutely nothing. I can't even understand why out of all the Housewives they could have brought back, they decide to bring Lydia back? Uh. Okay then. Whatever, I'm just glad I got sucked into RHOD because its actually more interesting at this point, lol. 

[wheresmypizza]

We got hookah, confrontational Diko because that's where the cameras were. Outside. Away from Vicki. That was intentional by Tamara, and it worked. Bitch is SOOO good at this. Normally I would hate it but it's going to ultimately result in getting Vicki off this show. So. Yeah.

Please!!!!!!!!!!

[mbaywife123]

The only interesting thing about the show this season is watching Vicki destroy "HER" show like Godzilla on a rampage thru Tokyo. 

[peaceknit]

Tamra has been angling for top bitch ever since she entered the show. Neither she nor Vicki are entertaining anymore, so Bravo, please end this shitfest. It's way past time.

[UsernameFatigue]

Fourteen episodes in, and Peggy and Dicko are still claiming that Peggy had cancer, despite Bravo showing a clip in epi 12 of Peggy's doctor saying that the cells were precancerous. Now I have had both a relative and best friend have precancerous cells. Yes, it is scary. Thankfully neither's cells turned cancerous. I have also had friends and relatives who have had breast cancer, including my own mother who had it twice, two different types. So I am sick and tired of Peggy and Dicko making their storyline that Peggy had cancer, and now these Howives are being mean and questioning her about it. You have to be really hard up for money to continue to make a cancer storyline front and centre, especially when it isn't even true. We saw it with Brooks when it really was a scam. I don't know what Peggy and Dicko's angle is other than they apparently need to continue to claim it to have a storyline. But it is becoming offensive. (As if these two are not offensive enough, just in general). Go away. And take your fake presents with you. 

[Mu Shu]

2 minutes ago, mbaywife123 said:

The only interesting thing about the show this season is watching Vicki destroy "HER" show like Godzilla on a rampage thru Tokyo. 

Speaking of Godzilla, what was the deal with the clumsy oaf boob ramming Peggy or whatever?   

[farmgal4]

41 minutes ago, Grumpbump said:

 Vicki's dress was just so unflattering.   That stupid cutout in the back with the compression hose illusion netting.  Just tragic.

I hate this show.   I really want to quit it.

Ditto to everything.  That green monstrosity was one of the ugliest garments I've ever seen.  

[AttackTurtle]

26 minutes ago, JAYJAY1979 said:

That child has video proof for his therapist :)

Also,  Shannon shouldn't be surprised that Diko approached her since her husband got in Vicki's face last season.  So fair game.

Tamra and Vicki are a couple that need to break up.  That means both need to  leave the show.

Vicki took a shot at Shannon in front of David and David naturally responded.   To me that is a totally different scenario. I don't think David is all that comfortable being on camera; however Diko seems desperate to be on camera.  And again, I just don't understand the poor grasp of the English language on Peggy's part.  Actually, I cringed a few times listening to Diko.  Their son is cute though.

Edited October 10, 2017 by AttackTurtle

[BloggerAloud]

I continue to have the sneaking suspicion that Diko was the driving force to get onto RHOC and every episode continues to solidify that belief as he seems to always to be angling for himself or Peggy to get more camera-time.

And you can't tell me that production wasn't hella pissed off at the Vicki/Tamra meeting because I'm sure they know that this feud has dragged on for so long without any really fresh material that it's tiresome at best.

Edited October 10, 2017 by BloggerAloud

[zoeysmom]

1 hour ago, Mu Shu said:

Yeah, all that rose gold is faux pas.  If Diko hadn't risen above being a little street mutt, Peggy's dessicated ass would be getting 10k Black Hills Gold.  Tacky fuckers, these two.  I got the urge to toss the keys to my Ford Fiesta and give the runt 3 bucks to not scratch my fenders.  

Peggy dances like an extra from the Walking Dead. 

Oh Mu Shu you never fail to hit it out of the park.  Love, love this comment.

[Pop Tart]

Others have commented on Vicki’s grabbing Koko and unloading her crap on him, but how about Peggy talking to him before anyone arrived. She told him to grab Auntie Vicki by the hand and bring her over to Auntie Tamra and ask them both to kiss him, or something like that. He was clearly freaked out by the idea and said no, then she offered to pay him. I do credit the kid with how he maneuvered to make sure he didn’t have to do it, but that was pretty gross on Peggy’s part.

And I know Diko was bummed that David didn’t show at the party. He made such a big deal prior to the party about how he didn’t know how he’d handle David at the party, but for sure he didn’t want David to cause any drama. All to build the dramatic tension and then David didn’t show up which foiled his plan. So he had to corner Shannon.

Shannon is overly sensitive, but both Peggy and Lydia (and now Diko) have been gaslighting her.

Edited October 10, 2017 by Pop Tart

[Bronzedog]

I think Lydia, Diko and Peggy are kind of doing the same thing Heather did to Shannon on Shannon's first season with all the implications that Shannon is crazy.  Seems like that was Heather's whole storyline that season. 

[Kemper]

I saw Vicki this morning on the Wendy Williams Show, too.  Just about all of her cellulite was visible as she sat with her legs crossed...back upper thigh.  Wouldn't pantyhose help cover that?  And control top ones, please. I couldn't look away from the cellulite and button-popping top.  I am not cellulite-shaming...we all have it.  We just choose not to flaunt it.

Vicki, for her age, is an attractive woman...she is one of the more "mature" HW's, agewise.  If she would just dress like a wealthy woman with class!  But no, she manages to look over-stuffed and tacky in everything she wears.  Put on a nice turtleneck and slacks.  Ones that are your size, not a size down.  What is wrong with these Orange County women?  I am down to watching only the NY Houswives and they are almost always dressed with class and style.   Except for the reunion episodes.

Just so you all know...I am almost 70;  even I dress better than Vicki.  

[Should Be Working]

8 minutes ago, Kemper said:

Vicki, for her age, is an attractive woman...she is one of the more "mature" HW's, agewise. 

Sorry, but I have to disagree vehemently. Very vehemently. One might venture, in the spirit of kindness, that she was "somewhat attractive" in her first few years with RHOC. But more than a decade's worth of heredity, drastic cosmetic procedures, the earth's gravity, moping, casserole overindulgence, and displaying the most vile and repulsive personality in this corner of the Milky Way has taken a real toll on her looks. As someone suggested earlier, she now looks like a linebacker. An extremely unattractive and over-the-hill linebacker. Just the thought of what poor Steve must have to go through several times a week to remain on the show makes one shudder with disgust and sympathy for the poor sod. She is that bad.

[Jel]

What exactly was Shannon tearing up about at the end?

I have to say that seeing it begin over the past couple of epis, I'm not looking forward to yet another Tamra-turns-on-a-friend dealy.  She works a new friendship hard, sucks absolutely everything she can from the person, then tosses the carcass aside when she's done.  I'm really not looking forward to watching her do that to Shannon. 

I really wish Tamra would just go away, or better, start a show with Lisa Rinna on another channel that I don't get.

[Hockey Addict]

24 minutes ago, Kemper said:

I saw Vicki this morning on the Wendy Williams Show, too.  Just about all of her cellulite was visible as she sat with her legs crossed...back upper thigh.  Wouldn't pantyhose help cover that?  And control top ones, please. I couldn't look away from the cellulite and button-popping top.  I am not cellulite-shaming...we all have it.  We just choose not to flaunt it.

Vicki, for her age, is an attractive woman...she is one of the more "mature" HW's, agewise.  If she would just dress like a wealthy woman with class!  But no, she manages to look over-stuffed and tacky in everything she wears.  Put on a nice turtleneck and slacks.  Ones that are your size, not a size down.  What is wrong with these Orange County women?  I am down to watching only the NY Houswives and they are almost always dressed with class and style.   Except for the reunion episodes.

Just so you all know...I am almost 70;  even I dress better than Vicki.  

Vicky has motivated me. Never will I EVER dress like that even if I live to 99. Okay, off to amazon to create a new wardrobe.

Edited October 10, 2017 by Hockey Addict

[enchantingmonkey]

11 minutes ago, Jel said:

I have to say that seeing it begin over the past couple of epis, I'm not looking forward to yet another Tamra-turns-on-a-friend dealy.  She works a new friendship hard, sucks absolutely everything she can from the person, then tosses the carcass aside when she's done.  I'm really not looking forward to watching her do that to Shannon. 

I totally imagined Tamra licking her fingers with glee as I was reading that!  Thanks, lol!

[HunterHunted]

14 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

 

 

1 hour ago, Straycat80 said:

Poor Koko, he's probably traumatized for life by Vicki getting in his face and talking gibberish. 

 

Harold and Maude Koko and Fraud

2 hours ago, Bronzedog said:

I swear I read somewhere that Peggy and Diko were divorced at some point.

2 hours ago, chick binewski said:

"22 isn't even a special number! Not like 3 marriages or 2 separate cities that a couple might live in." 

 

http://www.realitytea.com/2017/08/15/report-diko-peggy-sulahian-might-secretly-divorced/

In Armenian culture, the 21st anniversary of your divorce is very important.

[diadochokinesis]

Oh Vicki...  She just has no clue.  She has just managed to delude herself into thinking she is innocent in this and has owned all her past grievances.  Horrible.  Almost as bad as her in that green dress.

The anniversary party was meh, IMO.  They should have had someone manning the shisha though.  I typically see a couple of servers floating around to help and also get the flavor of shisha that you want. The food was nothing special and seemed like it was in a Levantine restaurant rather than an Armenian one.  Armenians share some food with the Levant but they have a lot of their own dishes too.  What I saw was mainly Levantine.  Tabouleh, baba ghanoush, and I think I saw some kofta floating around. Throw in some manakish with akkawi and you have a complete Arabic meal. 

[goofygirl]

But to be fair, although this ep was a total snoozefest, NO MENTION OF DOUG'S BALLS!!! Thank you baby jeebus!

[Batwings]

Of course Shannon became borderline hysterical in the car. I’m sure David’s ears were bleeding that night after she got home.

Those watches were ugly as f&@#

[Bronzedog]

More important than the not really your 22 years of marriage is money.  Yes. Money is really the only important thing.

[WireWrap]

20 minutes ago, Jel said:

What exactly was Shannon tearing up about at the end?

I have to say that seeing it begin over the past couple of epis, I'm not looking forward to yet another Tamra-turns-on-a-friend dealy.  She works a new friendship hard, sucks absolutely everything she can from the person, then tosses the carcass aside when she's done.  I'm really not looking forward to watching her do that to Shannon. 

I really wish Tamra would just go away, or better, start a show with Lisa Rinna on another channel that I don't get.

Well, she had just been pounced on by both Ditko and Peggy for something David supposedly said/did.

[angelamh66]

Freaking Lydia. She was sure putting her judgey pants on about the belly dancer. She's the worst. 

[wheresmypizza]

The evil part of me LOVES every time some other housewife gets given an extravagant gift from their husband in front of Vicki. Simon giving Tamara the Rolex. George giving Laurie the Mercedes with the big red bow. The rose gold watches. Cut to Vicki with smile pasted on. This KILLS HER. Her jealousy oozes through the screen and it is my everything.

[MinorL]

2 minutes ago, angelamh66 said:

Freaking Lydia. She was sure putting her judgey pants on about the belly dancer. She's the worst. 

It's so obnoxious, because we all know that the inventor of the balls voyage party is not offended. She just thinks a Real Christian (tm) would be. 

[The Solution]

At (more than) one point during the party, they shot Shannon from the back. I wasn't really paying attention and wondered when Brianna showed up. Seriously.

21 minutes ago, diadochokinesis said:

The anniversary party was meh, IMO.  They should have had someone manning the shisha though.  I typically see a couple of servers floating around to help and also get the flavor of shisha that you want. The food was nothing special and seemed like it was in a Levantine restaurant rather than an Armenian one.  Armenians share some food with the Levant but they have a lot of their own dishes too.  What I saw was mainly Levantine.  Tabouleh, baba ghanoush, and I think I saw some kofta floating around. Throw in some manakish with akkawi and you have a complete Arabic meal. 

Word. I'm half-Lebanese and that all reminded me of one of the Lebanese clubs I used to hang out in when I was younger. Especially the belly dancer.

Armenian culture is great! It should be - it's Lebanese!

[mbaywife123]

6 minutes ago, angelamh66 said:

Freaking Lydia. She was sure putting her judgey pants on about the belly dancer. She's the worst. 

Uncultured Lydiot doesn't know that belly dancers are good luck at weddings and celebrations.

[The Solution]

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Look at me! Look at me! Look at how much money we have to spend! Oh so rich! Ooooooh! Add it up, add it up!

Lydia, it wasn't even $2000. Bitch please.

[Vicky8675309]

Why was Peggy worried that the belly dancer may be fat? Bravo even put that in subtitles.

[Misslindsey]

3 minutes ago, MinorL said:

It's so obnoxious, because we all know that the inventor of the balls voyage party is not offended. She just thinks a Real Christian (tm) would be. 

So true. Lydia being so worried about Koko seeing a belly dancer was so ridiculous. Lydia probably thought it was an opportunity to give Peggy's son that awesomely strange sex talk she gave her own kids. 

Diko is so thirsty for his own orange. Was it me or did it feel like there were parts missing from the Diko/Shannon talk? Tamra mentioned that the ladies were confused from the story Peggy has told and then the scene basically jumped to Diko apologizing to Shannon. I felt like I missed something.

[nexxie]

1 hour ago, Jel said:

What exactly was Shannon tearing up about at the end?

I have to say that seeing it begin over the past couple of epis, I'm not looking forward to yet another Tamra-turns-on-a-friend dealy.  She works a new friendship hard, sucks absolutely everything she can from the person, then tosses the carcass aside when she's done.  I'm really not looking forward to watching her do that to Shannon. 

I really wish Tamra would just go away, or better, start a show with Lisa Rinna on another channel that I don't get.

Great description of Tamra’s game! Not sure if she’s a predator, a parasite, or both.

[yourmomiseasy]

An episode centered around Peggy and Diko, just what I wanted!  

[lunastartron]

Diko's approach was very mild compared to many of the blows ups and pile-ons that Shannon has witnessed and in which she's been involved over the past four years. 

Clearly, he's thirsty for camera time and the fact that he was conversing with her at all resonated as an inorganic attention grab. 

But he couched his comments with plenty of qualifiers like "I probably didn't do a good job of explaining" and concessions that their misunderstanding was attributable to poor communication on his part. 

Peggy's delivery was calm.

Nothing about their tepid stab at conflict to guarantee the party made it to broadcast was "shocking" in the least. 

Shannon should know how this by now. The fact that she is stumbling out of filming sobbing "I'm done! I'm fucking done!" over amateurish and clumsy, junior-high-level efforts at drama is more surprising than anything, particularly given that she experiences a bona fide gaslight during her maiden season; CancerGate; and the bus ride from hell. 

[NeverLate]

1 hour ago, WireWrap said:

Well, she had just been pounced on by both Ditko and Peggy for something David supposedly said/did.

That whole scenario seemed so fake with Diko and Shannon,. I cannot stand Peggy or her husband! I felt like he had been handed a script. It was never going to come up, why bring that BS at your anniversary party. Crazy.

Vicki give it up with Tamra already, it's not going to happen. 

Twinkle and her husband, it's that what they do? Give the belly dancer money, like a stripper( gasp) . God, you were so busy burning through mothers money, you forgot any kind of anniversary gift! Fake! 

Kelly, when you were in the kitchen, I thought I saw strings to your straightjacket.. Wth was that, and yes, we all know you want to divorce Michael, have at it, please.

[WireWrap]

5 minutes ago, NeverLate said:

That whole scenario seemed so fake with Diko and Shannon,. I cannot stand Peggy or her husband! I felt like he had been handed a script. It was never going to come up, why bring that BS at your anniversary party. Crazy.

Vicki give it up with Tamra already, it's not going to happen. 

Twinkle and her husband, it's that what they do? Give the belly dancer money, like a stripper( gasp) . God, you were so busy burning through mothers money, you forgot any kind of anniversary gift! Fake! 

Kelly, when you were in the kitchen, I thought I saw strings to your straightjacket.. Wth was that, and yes, we all know you want to divorce Michael, have at it, please.

I agree, IMO, Ditko and Peggy planned this as a grab for extra camera time, they were hopping that Shannon would go off and they could claim she was the aggressor/they the victims.

It does feel like Kelly was laying the ground work for the divorce during filming but waited to announce it until after filming ended! I suspect that is why (in part) she made nice with Meghan, Tamra and Shannon this season as well, trying to make herself look like a "nice" person instead of the attack dog she was last year. LOL

[NeverLate]

2 hours ago, BloggerAloud said:

I continue to have the sneaking suspicion that Diko was the driving force to get onto RHOC and every episode continues to solidify that belief as he seems to always to be angling for himself or Peggy to get more camera-time.

 

When he pulled out those watches, he was so pleased with himself, and all I could think was tacky trashy watches. It looked like Peggy's arm would fall off. Then the necklace, they will be like Joe and Theresa before anniversary 23! 

[HunterHunted]

2 hours ago, Bronzedog said:

More important than the not really your 22 years of marriage is money.  Yes. Money is really the only important thing.

I think we've seen Diko spend a million dollars between the new car, the watches, and jewelry.

[yourmomiseasy]

Does Vicki own anything that does not fall into at least one of the following categories?

• too tight
• too short
• plunging neckline
• asymmetrical sleeves, neckline, or hem
• weird cutouts 

Edited October 10, 2017 by yourmomiseasy

[ivygirl]

Starting to watch the episode again and I have questions.

1. I don't think I've ever seen an episode of any RH show begin with ambient/background noise rather than music. If that was intended to make the setup of Vicki's meeting with Tamra feel super awkward... it worked.

2. WHERE is Peggy's SON?!?!?!?! 

3. Technically this is from the last episode, but they replayed it tonight. David didn't ask about cancer detected in Peggy's *vasectomy*, did he?

Edited October 10, 2017 by ivygirl

[FairyDusted]

@ivygirl   I listened each time that scene played and it sure sounded like he did say that or mangle it enough that it sounded like it. 

Tarma is DONE with Vicky. We got a quick look at all of Vickys' faces during the friendship flashback. Good times. 

[biakbiak]

I love Vicki's "logic" I just want to put the past behind us, "maybe he is using you to get a gym" "I don't know what I could have done differently." Her inability to just own her shit and apologize for her own actions is crazy. 

[CrinkleCutCat]

Ivy girl, I was going to say the same thing! The ambient noise....footsteps, background chatter, coffee machine... added to the tension mounting from Vicki about to meet Tamra.

Good on Tamra for keeping her cool and asking for examples. Bonus points for telling Vicki that her temper was not a good look!

Edited October 10, 2017 by CrinkleCutCat

[bichonblitz]

6 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

Diko you just made David asking about Peggy's cancer a big deal by saying anything at all to these women. And now we'll have to watch Shannon obsess about this forever and ever. Lucky us! 

Uh oh. Here's a new excuse for Shannon's weight gain. Their allegations made me eat!

[CrinkleCutCat]

Being naughty and posting before reading everyone else's posts. Sorry not sorry!

 

Lydia during belly dancing: "Where's their son?"

Cut to Koko with gawking eyes ?!! Too funny!

 

But way to bring my mood down with the public gifting Peggy and Diko... so gaudy...ostentatious.

Edited October 10, 2017 by CrinkleCutCat

[HunterHunted]

19 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

I love Vicki's "logic" I just want to put the past behind us, "maybe he is using you to get a gym" "I don't know what I could have done differently." Her inability to just own her shit and apologize for her own actions is crazy. 

Vicki's stupidity and awfulness is hilarious. A gym? A gym. There are all manner of real estate agents, lawyers, doctors, producers, agents, and business women who are more successful than Tamra is at Cut Fitness. I might ponder licking some kitty to marry the female (I don't know if there is one) heir to Gold's Gym. LA Fitness? Yeah, maybe. 24 Hour Fitness? It's a possibility. But Cut Fitness? Fuck no. The idea that secretly gay Eddie married Tamra so that he could be a co-owner of Cut Fitness is moronic. That's straight stupid.

I'm a straight woman. You'd have to dangle a fuck ton of money in front of me for me to lez for loot, but Eddie can be allegedly bought for Cut Fitness. Shut up Vicki!

[Lizzing]

2 hours ago, ivygirl said:

1. I don't think I've ever seen an episode of any RH show begin with ambient/background noise rather than music. If that was intended to make the setup of Vicki's meeting with Tamra feel super awkward... it worked.

It was strange that they didn't run the opening credits, but went straight into the Vicki/Tamra meeting.  I don't recall that being done before.  I guess it was to add some kind of imperative tension, but since the meeting fizzed out so fast, the set up was a waste.

I figure we're into the back half of the season and that someone would bring up going on a trip this episode, kind of like that weird "let's go to Ireland" deal last season at Heather's book launch party.  Sure enough, Kelly suggested a trip, but to Thailand. (It's a blink and you miss it cross talk, when Shannon and Diko were talking, at the very end of the episode.)  I wish they'd hurry up and go to Iceland just to break up the monotony of the season.

The idea of a secretly gay Eddie marrying Tamra for a mostly empty gym is completely laughable. First, I'm sure there are more than enough well off gay men in the LA area who would have willingly partnered up with Eddie to open a much better gym, if that's what he really wanted.  Secondly, that would be about the stupidest con this side of faking cancer to get casseroles, so no one should be surprised that's Vicki's theory.