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17 hours ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

I don't find it that laughable. Gabi may be physically attractive, but not all men are that shallow to want someone with that black a soul. Kate's past is pretty bad, but Gabi's recent past is even worse. Plus, you're acting like Kate's some decrepit woman who can barely walk. Just because you're older, doesn't mean you can't be beautiful. Kate physically is just as attractive as some of the characters half her age.

Except Kate's soul isn't much better if it was I would see your point there. She looks great for her age but I don't buy a dude in his 30s/40s would choose a woman who's pushing 70 over a woman who's closer to his age unless he's a sugar baby/escort.

This is why I think they should've revisted Jake/Gwen. Now Jake choosing Gwen over Gabi makes more sense to me age, history etc. However @peachmangosteen may be onto something Jake likes women with empty souls like Gwen, Gabi and Kate...

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22 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

It's just spec that he slept with Laura.

No, Jack slept with with Laura. At the time, they met in a group for self help but they didn't use their real names. Jack hadnt met Laura' because she was institutionalized for years since Jennifer was a child.

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1 hour ago, peachmangosteen said:

It's just spec that he slept with Laura.

 

1 hour ago, nilyank said:

No, Jack slept with with Laura. At the time, they met in a group for self help but they didn't use their real names. Jack hadnt met Laura' because she was institutionalized for years since Jennifer was a child.

It was also during a period of time when Jack was played by someone else--Mark Valley I think.

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1 hour ago, Frozendiva said:

I figured this was coming months ago.  Even expected Ron would probably try to pull it off for Valentine's Day.  Allie will feel guilty for accusing Tripp and tarnishing his name when he did nothing but try to help her, and she'll fall for him. He'll be dumb enough to become sweet on her and help her raise his nephew. Plus, Allie's pool of suitors in this town is scarce since she's related to both the Bradys and Hortons. Tripp as a Johnson & Vitalli would be fair game so to speak. Sad, but true. 

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1 minute ago, Silver Raven said:

"So, Dad, you did you and Mom meet?"

"Well, my sweet loving wife accused me of rape ..."

 

"...but thankfully she didn't blow away my family jewels or you children wouldn't exist. There'd only be your half brother Henry. But we got over all that and the lawsuit she started to file and that's how we all live happily ever after in Salem with Grandma Ava."

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1 hour ago, Peanut6711 said:

I figured this was coming months ago.  Even expected Ron would probably try to pull it off for Valentine's Day.  Allie will feel guilty for accusing Tripp and tarnishing his name when he did nothing but try to help her, and she'll fall for him. He'll be dumb enough to become sweet on her and help her raise his nephew. Plus, Allie's pool of suitors in this town is scarce since she's related to both the Bradys and Hortons. Tripp as a Johnson & Vitalli would be fair game so to speak. Sad, but true. 

Tagging onto this, then Claire's only recourse will be in the arms of Ben (HE'S CHANGED)... just as Ciara returns from the dead.

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5 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

Well then, I guess Gwen really will be their kid. I don’t know why I had hope this whole thing was gonna be more interesting. Or more fun stupid, which is actually what I wanted lol. But now, it’s just gonna be boringly stupid.

NEVER hope for anything good with Ron Carlivati at the helm! You know that!  😛

But in all seriousness, if this shit is true? I don't care how "soapy" it is. It's SICK. Jack's DAUGHTER would be Jennifer's SISTER. Fuck Ron.

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2 hours ago, Peanut6711 said:
2 hours ago, Silver Raven said:

"So, Dad, you did you and Mom meet?"

"Well, my sweet loving wife accused me of rape ..."

 

"...but thankfully she didn't blow away my family jewels or you children wouldn't exist. There'd only be your half brother Henry. But we got over all that and the lawsuit she started to file and that's how we all live happily ever after in Salem with Grandma Ava."

Your half-brother/cousin Henry!  LOL!

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8 hours ago, nilyank said:

No, Jack slept with with Laura. At the time, they met in a group for self help but they didn't use their real names. Jack hadnt met Laura' because she was institutionalized for years since Jennifer was a child.

Jack saw pictures of Laura but we are not supposed to remember that piece of information. I always hated that Jack slept with Laura, it was just a plot-driven mess..

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1 hour ago, WendyCR72 said:

NEVER hope for anything good with Ron Carlivati at the helm! You know that!  😛

But in all seriousness, if this shit is true? I don't care how "soapy" it is. It's SICK. Jack's DAUGHTER would be Jennifer's SISTER. Fuck Ron.

I will say if it comes to pass this is a lot easier to take since MR isn't Jennifer anymore.

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Jack having slept with both Laura and Jennifer, mother/daughter, is as gag-worthy as Kristin sleeping with both John and Brady, father/son.  Never the less, Jack and Laura's tryst was decades ago so the damage has already been done, and it won't faze me one bit if Gwen turns out to be the product of it.  I personally find Jack and Jennifer a snooze fest so if it makes them more interesting to sit through, I'm on board.  It's time Gwen's motivation is made clear so the storyline can move forward, and I'd like to see it be something worthwhile. 

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Since NBC airing the full show today at regular airtime isn't looking good in the US (or at least not on the East Coast), here's the schedule. Appears no episode is scheduled for next Wed the 20th though due to the Inauguration. 

01-13-2021New(Season 56, Episode 79)

Kate urges Chad to tell Abigail the truth before Gwen does. Abigail, Jack and Jennifer start to piece together their information on Gwen. Eli and Lani's twins go missing. Bonnie mentions to Justin that she ran into a woman with twins yesterday.

 

01-14-2021New(Season 56, Episode 80)

Gwen convinces Abigail that she slept with Chad. Chad tries to reason with a very upset Abigail. Gwen is cryptic with Kate about her motives. Lani and Valerie see the new sketch of the kidnapper and recognize her.

 

01-15-2021New(Season 56, Episode 81)

Tripp comes face to face with Charlie. Rafe confronts Charlie about Ava having been poisoned. Claire cries to Belle that she really cared about Charlie. Chloe questions if Brady really thinks he can sustain his marriage to Kristen.

 

01-18-2021New(Season 56, Episode 82)

Tripp and Charlie have a major confrontation. Nicole proposes a way for Allie to strengthen her case against Charlie. Sarah fears Xander has put Philip's life at risk. Chloe offers to give Philip shelter.

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22 hours ago, WendyCR72 said:

Not to me. (I do like Cady McClain, though.) The character is still supposed to be the same, so I still find it nasty.

She's supposed to be but when it comes to this show and their recasts the character's personality ends up being drastically changed. CM's version of Jennifer is no different she's not Jennifer to me.  If MR were to return and they completely ignore this terrible story ever happened I would find it rather easy to ignore because it feels like the MV Jack years in the 90s where I found the whole Jack/Jennifer/Peter saga rather forgettable. Rarely have I seen a recast and think oh wow the character is still the same to me despite a different actor in the role. 

54 minutes ago, Silver Raven said:

In an effort to keep MM/Charlie around, I feared the show might try to present that night as more "consensual" than what they've been saying, but going by MM's comments it really was as Allie's been saying all along.  Also, I wonder if they'll finally address the note Tripp left on Allie's nightstand and why/if Charlie took it.

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Chloe being stupid w these spoilers. First giving Brady relationship advice to split when his crazy bitch gf already hates her w jealousy. Kristen gonna hulk smash her way out of the clink to choke her.

Then Chloe decides to help and protect Phillip against the mob like she didn’t just spend several years being kidnapped and having her life threatened into a living hell by another mob cartel? In what universe....

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Really?

I feel like too many of the plots are focused on Who Cares? Newbie characters like Charlie, Gwen, Jake and Allie (who has done nothing but coast on the appeal of other characters).

And Flipping Ben. And Ava.

I'd willingly swap all that for a full week of Roman just drying beer mugs and rambling. This is more his show than theirs....not that you'd know it these days.

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I think it says volumes that SOD's pick for Best Couple for 2020 on this show was Steve and Kayla, a pairing that had seen their glory days THIRTY PLUS years ago. There is always the complaint that the old-timers like John and Steve and Kayla need to make way for the new generation.

Trouble is, those classic characters had the benefit of good writing and great production values equaling fond memories for many viewers. This generation has crappy writing and cheap production values. And, let's face it, none of them seem to have the "presence" the older characters got. (That includes Ben/Ciara and Chad/Abby, the "popular" [relatively] pairings of the modern era. To me, it does, anyway.)

Even the generation before this crop, with Sami, I find a little of her goes a LONG way. The writers see Sami and think "spitfire bitch". GREAT for young Sami, but it's rather old to me now. The writers never really gave her "shades of gray" in between, IMO, and I think the character has been running in place for years now. (Just my opinion here!)

Long way of saying the best years of this show are long in the rear view mirror.

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7 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

I'm the opposite. This past week was the most I've enjoyed the show in quite some time and I actually look forward to the episodes.

I agree. I find GH much more of a chore to get through. For the last two or three weeks, I've been eagerly anticipating Days episodes. I won't disagree that most of the storyline are horribly written and some are offensive, and yet I've still been entertained. I think both storylines have horrifically weak points, but I've been enjoying the Abigail/Chad/Gwen story and the Tripp/Charlie/Ava story. I loathe, loathe, loathe Gwen at this point and can't wait for her comeuppance but the actors are all doing a great job and, while I've been sure where this story is going from the beginning, there's still some suspense to it. I actually care about the character of Tripp and I think the actor playing Charlie has been doing a great job, plus its a storyline that's involving a lot of other characters - including vets like Steve, Kayla, and John. Now on days without those storylines, I have been less than enthused, but it's still better than GH most of these days. I've been watching GH a lot longer, and probably care about a lot more characters on that show, but there's only one storyline going on right now that I'd say I'm thoroughly enjoying.

I'm sorry, but I'd definitely take these stories over some boring story with Roman - legacy character or not (leaving aside that those other two stories I mentioned feature plenty of legacy characters and vets.) I'd be happy to see them try a story with Roman and see how that goes but if it went like the Roman/Hattie story, I'd probably be bored.

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If Gwen did actually sleep with Chad and got pregnant by him, and it turns out she is also Jack and Laura's love child, that would make her baby:

  • Thomas and Charlotte's sibling via their dad
  • Thomas and Charlotte's first cousin via their grandpa Jack
  • Thomas and Charlotte's first cousin once removed via their great-grandma Laura

Said baby would also be:

  • Abby's stepchild
  • Abby's niece/nephew
  • Abby's cousin

It would almost make the lunacy worth it. Almost.

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7 hours ago, WendyCR72 said:

I think it says volumes that SOD's pick for Best Couple for 2020 on this show was Steve and Kayla, a pairing that had seen their glory days THIRTY PLUS years ago. There is always the complaint that the old-timers like John and Steve and Kayla need to make way for the new generation.

Trouble is, those classic characters had the benefit of good writing and great production values equaling fond memories for many viewers. This generation has crappy writing and cheap production values. And, let's face it, none of them seem to have the "presence" the older characters got. (That includes Ben/Ciara and Chad/Abby, the "popular" [relatively] pairings of the modern era. To me, it does, anyway.)

Even the generation before this crop, with Sami, I find a little of her goes a LONG way. The writers see Sami and think "spitfire bitch". GREAT for young Sami, but it's rather old to me now. The writers never really gave her "shades of gray" in between, IMO, and I think the character has been running in place for years now. (Just my opinion here!)

Long way of saying the best years of this show are long in the rear view mirror.

What did you expect ? TIIC simply have no idea how to craft supercouples anymore . They had potential supercouples in Brady /Chloe ,Philip/Stephanie and Nick/Chelsea and they just ruined them both with garbage pairings and bizarre contrieved breakups.  

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On 1/12/2021 at 8:18 AM, Frozendiva said:

Should have been Susan Hunter- Martin , Julie's one time BFF and big time enemy during the 1960s and 1970s.

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Aymery said:

If Gwen did actually sleep with Chad and got pregnant by him, and it turns out she is also Jack and Laura's love child, that would make her baby:

  • Thomas and Charlotte's sibling via their dad
  • Thomas and Charlotte's first cousin via their grandpa Jack
  • Thomas and Charlotte's first cousin once removed via their great-grandma Laura

Said baby would also be:

  • Abby's stepchild
  • Abby's niece/nephew
  • Abby's cousin

It would almost make the lunacy worth it. Almost.

Oh dear Lord ,please dont give Mo-Ron Carlivati any ideas about turning Gwen into Jack and Laura's long lost kid. Hell no !!! 

 

Why cant she be like Drew Donovan 's daughter or something like that ? 

 she doesnt have to he a long lost kid . 

2 hours ago, Aymery said:

If Gwen did actually sleep with Chad and got pregnant by him, and it turns out she is also Jack and Laura's love child, that would make her baby:

  • Thomas and Charlotte's sibling via their dad
  • Thomas and Charlotte's first cousin via their grandpa Jack
  • Thomas and Charlotte's first cousin once removed via their great-grandma Laura

Said baby would also be:

  • Abby's stepchild
  • Abby's niece/nephew
  • Abby's cousin

It would almost make the lunacy worth it. Almost.

This would be absolutely delicious. I actually almost want them to kill off Gwen and then SORAS her child to mid-20s just to see the interactions and the inevitable Abby/Some man that isn't Chad/Gwen Jr. triangle with Laura and Jack as mediators.

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9 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

I feel like too many of the plots are focused on Who Cares? Newbie characters like Charlie, Gwen, Jake and Allie (who has done nothing but coast on the appeal of other characters).

And Flipping Ben. And Ava.

Gwen and Charlie are the most entertaining and interesting characters on the show currently for me personally. I love watching them. Ava also interests me. Jake I couldn't give a shit about but I do like him in relation to Gwen. Allie does suck but there are so many other better people involved in her story. And, thankfully, Ben has actually been pretty MIA lately, which is another reason I like the show nowadays lol.

I'm not really closely following the spoilers right now though so who knows, I might get bored again next week. And then a few months later there might be a stretch where I enjoy it again. It always cycles in and out like that for me.

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Just read somewhere that Brady is about to get shot again.

 

This would be like the 3rd time I believe.

 

First time was when Abe shot him 

 

2nd time was when Xander shot him during the "Brady/Nicole on the run with Holly " storyline.

 

And now the Vitale goons are going to shoot him. 

 

Wow , we are truly lucky that we got such a "creative "headwriter. 

He is now ripping off the 2009 Mafia war between House Kiriakis and House DiMera which kicked off after Philip and Tony fought over Nick Fallon's invention and Tony ended up impaled accidentally. Atleast the origins of this made sense. 

 

However the new Philip vs Vitale war is extra dumb because if Carlivati had actually respected character history ,this whole money laundering blackmail would have been ended already IF PHILIP just called his ISA agent sister Billie Reed to help him out.

On top of that ,Philip himself used to be an ISA agent and a freaking Marine . 

You telling me Philip wouldnt have tag teamed with the ISA to take down Ava ? What a joke. Plus John was his supervisor  . 

Philip already has credentials that would allow the ISA to take his situation seriously and use it to nail the Vitales.

This is  why this whole Ava blackmailing Philip thing is so dumb .

 


 

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