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3 hours ago, ladle said:

Everything about this photo is amazing.  The fried hair, the inflatable swan, the woman who appears to be applauding her...  A+.  Also, what on earth is in her hand? 

It looks like a sun visor/hat, maybe she had "baby skin" here as well! LOL

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4 hours ago, bagger said:

I don't see the big issue with B using the show as an infomercial. Who is smarter than her. She gets weekly exposure on national tv, where she gets paid to appear. What other company/business person can say the same? Other national brands pay obscene amounts of money to get their products on tv shows or in commercials and this skinny bitch has managed to do it for free. 

Also, she's proud of her product that's her other baby. You can see the glee and excitement in her face when she talks about it. So maybe from what we saw in the episode it wasn't the "VIP tour" some expected but she was genuinely excited to go to the tequila plant. She was excited to show the ladies where her shit gets made.

I get it, people hate her and people hate her product but I don't see anyone denying that she has managed to put her product front and center on a national tv show and it's worked for her. The casual viewer (I have two friends) seems to enjoy her and I'm sure some of them have at least gone out and tried at least one of her products because they saw it on the show. 

Hurray Bethenny!!! More power to ya!!!!

Avion did it first and to this day, I still use that brand for my cocktails.

I agree with her, using the show to push her brand, however all her events are low rent.

I was expecting much, much more out of Tequila day!

In addition, She is very lucky that the ladies are not true bitches and went along with the flow.

I have yet to see the skinny girl meat but I see her other products everywhere.

Did Bravo cut the travelling budget for this show?

Nothing compares to the BH girls, those women are truly living luxurious lifestyles.

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Everything about Ramona is brassy and overdone.  She needs to replace the stringy bikinis with more structured garments that enhance her shape rather than cut into her shape.  All of that money she has spent on surgery/dermatology and you'd think she'd get her teeth straightened or at least veneered.  Her snaggly teeth make her look old as much as her posture and gait.  I totally agree that she looked her best at the vow renewal with the long bob and bangs.

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I like Bethanny. SHe's a smart cookie. If I had her money from something I thought up, marketed, was my baby, and I got MILLIONS for it I'd be slappin stuff everywhere with my logo on it! Girl Power!!!

I hate Ramona. She is an evil, heinous woman. If I was Bethanny I wouldn't have wanted her evil personage around either. I'm sure there was WAY more to that day then we saw. Seriously we saw like 10 mins. of what was probably a 5 hour event. They probably met the Jim Beam people in a closed door meeting and really, if we saw that , everyone would would be screaming about how boring it was! 

As soon as Sonja said she was "falling off the wagon" I could see the big ole red flags. Danger Will Robinson, Danger!!!

Tinsley, grow the hell up. Your not cute. Your 41. Get a life and quit living off everybody else. Ditch the curls, bows, and other cutesy things. Just stop. 

I gave up my beloved sky high heels within the last 2 years. It was gradual but they're really not comfortable and yes, at 59, I feel stupid in them now. Flip flops, birkenstocks, clogs. I'm a happy girl. Loose tops to hide the bulges and lots of jeans and  shorts. That's the ticket! 

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The only one I like is Lou- she is just a big boned boy looking to have some fun!

 

They are all pitiful past their prime hags who are nasty. 

Bethanny you were so worried about appearences at Tequila yet you acted like a foul mouthed cow

PS- Your Margaritas suck

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3 hours ago, LIMOM said:

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In addition, She is very lucky that the ladies are not true bitches and went along with the flow.

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Sorry for the extreme cut,  I'm having problems bolding. 

Oh please. Sonja, LuLu,  and Ramona both tried very hard to use the show to pimp their products. They just weren't as successful. And they will be trying again in the future.

That being said,  and I like Bethany okay, it would get old. 

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19 hours ago, TVFAN said:

Did anyone else find this episode to be incredibly sad?  

Yes. But not entirely for the reasons that you did. I don't often think of them so deeply, but I just find them sad. They've got healthy bodies and brains, loads of money - the means to be happy.  But I don't think they are. Not one of them is able to sustain a healthy relationship. Even friendships seem hard. 

The dysfunction runs deep with these women. But anyone who signs up for a HW role has to be dysfunctional at their core, imo. It's a prerequisite for the job. And what makes them interesting to watch. Trainwrecks, all of 'em.

It's sad, but I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for them. How can they watch themselves on TV, year after year, and not think, "Damn, this is messed up." But they sign up again, only the next year they've lost their husbands or jobs or their children will no longer talk to them.  Or they continue being loud obnoxious drunks and lose their respectability. And for what?  Some money and an occasional mention on Page Six. I was going to say that at least they get some nice trips out of it. But I agree with you - how enjoyable can a trip really be if you're going with people you don't even particularly like?

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13 minutes ago, ryebread said:

It's sad, but I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for them. How can they watch themselves on TV, year after year, and not think, "Damn, this is messed up."

I think being on television has become the MOST IMPORTANT thing in the life of every one of them.  Each probably thinks she's as newsworthy as Princess Grace, Jennifer Aniston, Angelina Jolie (fill in a name) or whatever star or celebrity floates her boat.

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On 7/27/2017 at 2:00 PM, Duke2801 said:

Speaking of Lu, damn, her body in that surfing outfit was incredible.  I am completely envious of her legs.

Not many people can pull off a rash guard and bikini bottom with midriff exposed, much less someone (ahem) her age.  She doesn't even look like she's sucking in her stomach. 

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8 hours ago, bagatelle said:

Agree. If she didn't have the implants to give the appearance of health and curves, we would think she looked emaciated.

She looks great in clothes, but for some reason, when she runs around in those skimpy bikinis, I always get a plucked chicken vibe.

I thought she was looking not quite so emaciated this episode. Or maybe it was  that she was happy. 

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1 hour ago, ShawnaLanne said:

I thought she was looking not quite so emaciated this episode. Or maybe it was  that she was happy. 

It was because she was happy/excited, not because she gained a few pounds and she was sick on top of it all. Bethenny is too thin, (Jules thin) IMO, especially when you consider that the cameras add 10/15 lbs. !

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9 hours ago, QuinnM said:

Yeah, no.  Not these fields but there has been more than one tequila trip.  She doesn't highlight where or who or why but if you watch snap you see these being planned etc.  So if she said this was her first then she was talking for the show.  She's been to a distillery for sure.  I don't know if the fields were there but the distillery was in Mexico.

I guess then I am left with, it became almost a time share experience, where one goes for the free weekend and has to sit through the sales presentation.  Sorry, they could have gone to Mexico and not done the tour. For all the hoopla Bethenny put into it, it just fell flat and thankfully didn't take up a great deal of the episode. Riding in the helicopters was probably the best part. The tour was just them actually sitting through a meal and NOT arguing.  That was the only thing that was unique.  The tequilas they were tasting had nothing to do with Skinnygirl-they were high end-not something added to a bunch of artificial flavors.  Although there were some nice Skinnygirl napkins and logos on hard hats it was about tequila.  I am guessing Skinnygirl Tequila-which Bethenny claimed last year was forthcoming is no longer on the drawing board of Suntory Beam. 

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3 hours ago, Mu Shu said:

I don't think she has to suck it in.  You could bounce quarters off any part of her body.

If I fell in some bushes, I would look like a busted ass cabbage patch kid in some weeds. Possibly falling in dog poop.  Lu looked like she was in some high end perfume campaign.

its just not fair.

She did. She and Cynthia from Atlanta are the two most beautiful Housewives of all of the different franchises. Good genes and better plastic surgeons, IMO.

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Upon the second viewing of this episode, I've decided it is Ramona's gait that makes her appear so matronly.   If I were to spend that much money on plastic surgery I would definitely improve my posture for television.  Wow

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23 minutes ago, tabloidlover said:

Upon the second viewing of this episode, I've decided it is Ramona's gait that makes her appear so matronly.   If I were to spend that much money on plastic surgery I would definitely improve my posture for television.  Wow

I think she is knocked kneed, so I don't think she can improve it all that much if any! Maybe she wouldn't look as awkward walking if she wore lower heels instead of the stiletto heels she seems to love, LisaV (BH) has the same problem. LOL 

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Ro looks great for being sixty years old.  She doesn't look as great as she thinks because she thinks she's in her forties. 

I really don't get the 'need' for so many of these women in all the franchises to walk around in shoes that they can't walk in.  Ro and LVP are prime examples.  And I think that this is the reason why Ro always looks so awkward when walking.  If you notice, Ro always sits very straight.  Annoying straight.  Even Andy has said something about it on WWHL.   I think she does it to make her stomach look flatter.  I think when getting those oversized breast implants, she thought her stomach would look smaller.  Didn't work.  Just like Beth's implants don't work.  Yep.  There goes a woman with implants.  They're obviously not real.

I would trade bodies with Lu and even Doris in an instant.  Heck, even Carole and Tinsley.  Gosh, even Sonja.  Beth and Ro?  Nope.

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On 7/27/2017 at 1:57 AM, F. M. said:

I've heard the term used for a circle of men, but you're right, no mention of a female.

Yes! Never. Also,  sorry for being crude, but isn't it when they jerk each other off? This the expression,  this is a circle jerk,  meaning that everyone is just kissing up to and trying to please each other? In an attempt to be interesting she's trying to be risque,  with this and her anal sex references. But if she's going to go this route,  and smirk in a superior way while enlightening the tube,  she should be accurate. 

Okay looked it up. Her definition and mine both stand,  but I still find her deliberately provocative behavior annoying. I saw another explanation of it as jerking off onto a cookie. 

"A circle jerk is a sexual practice in which a group of men or boys form a circle and masturbate themselves or each other. In the metaphorical sense, the term is used to refer to self-congratulatory behavior or discussion amongst a group of people, usually in reference to a "boring or time-wasting meeting or other event".

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15 minutes ago, ShawnaLanne said:

Yes! Never. Also,  sorry for being crude, but isn't it when they jerk each other off? This the expression,  this is a circle jerk,  meaning that everyone is just kissing to and trying to please each other? In an attempt to be interesting she's trying to be risque,  with this and her analysis sex references. But if she's going to go this route,  and smirk in a superior way while enlightening the tube,  she should be accurate. 

Okay looked it up. Her definition and mine both stand,  but I still find her deliberately provocative behavior annoying. I saw another explanationsof it as jerking off onto a cookie. 

"A circle jerk is a sexual practice in which a group of men or boys form a circle and masturbate themselves or each other. In the metaphorical sense, the term is used to refer to self-congratulatory behavior or discussion amongst a group of people, usually in reference to a "boring or time-wasting meeting or other event".

Her definition is a description of ugh...bukkake...ugh. It began in Japanese pornography and migrated to western pornography. And yes, a circle jerk is used to indicate a waste of time.

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Frankly after seeing Ramona dance I don't know if there is hope of changing her gait.  Perhaps some ballet for adults classes (to improve balance and show her how to carry herself less awkwardly) but nothing will ever give her grace of movement. 

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10 hours ago, tabloidlover said:

Upon the second viewing of this episode, I've decided it is Ramona's gait that makes her appear so matronly.   If I were to spend that much money on plastic surgery I would definitely improve my posture for television.  Wow

Ramona claims her posture (sticking her chest out) is a result of hers studying/taking ballet for 12 years.   She must  have cut a lot of classes.  Ramona is that woman who sticks her chest out and butt out and thinks it looks cute.  Reminds me of gymnast sticking her landing before she raises her arms.  She just over does everything.  If Ramona was a ballerina she would glide through a room and not plod.   Someone once told Ramona to sit straight and she thinks it looks great.  Note Charlize Theron (trained ballet dancer)on WWHL: Compare Ramona: watch-what-happens-live-season-12-galler

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On 7/27/2017 at 7:34 PM, ladle said:

B. is hyperaware of how she's being perceived by the audience.  She went back on her decision to exclude Ramona from the trip.  She didn't even want to sit at the head of the table.  I don't think she likes the critique that she runs this show.  But the thing is, she runs this show. 
 

Also, I wish she could be that upbeat and enthusiastic on trips that she didn't plan. 

I agree with this. 

I have been enjoying Carole way more and even Beth in the recent episodes.  I've noticed they aren't stuck at the hip to each other, like last season. They came off very mean girl last season, so I'm assuming it's purposely made decision on Beth's (and Carole's ) part. Tbh, I don't even care. I don't want to dislike every woman on the show.  It's  much more enjoyable to watch this season.  It's so hard to watch when you can't stand everyone on the show. 

Ramona on other hand, I can't stand that woman,  and there is almost nothing she can do  to change my opinion of her.  She disgusts me. 

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On 7/27/2017 at 8:38 PM, notnowimbusy said:

LuAnn's look always seem effortless.  She seems comfortable in her own skin.  Even with a horrible hang-over, she looks good.  Ramona always does that horrible back arched pose, which make her look awkward.   Her best look was when she did the ill-fated vow renewal.  Her hair was much shorter, flattered her face, gave her a more youthful look.    Now she just looks fried (no pun intended about the recent chemical peel).   Bethanny has good fashion sense, but she's way too thin.  Carol always looks casual and age appropriate.  Tinsley, well, honey, you are 42 not 18 - enough of the curls, ringlets, bows, ruffles.  Sonja - why do I always think that none of her clothes are clean, most are old/patched, and have been around since she was married to JPM. 

I thought Tinsley was in her 30s and trying to be 20! Pretty soon she gonna turn into Baby Jane. When it comes to Sonja I'm always left with the feeling that her cat peed on her coat and she had to take scotch tape wrapped around her hand to get off the cat hair off her dress and she doesn't even own a cat.

Bethany has had some hits and misses. Dorinda usually looks good and Luann despite a few of her statement necklaces almost always looks great and appropriate. Carol is meh, nothing memorable.

Ramona just looks bad these days. 

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On 7/28/2017 at 9:22 AM, zoeysmom said:

IMO the Bravo audience has had enough exposure to all things Skinnygirl. 

I was grocery shopping the other day and saw Skinny Girl deli meat.  Talk about over-kill.

I don't buy Skinny Girl anything 'cause I have no desire to fund Bethany's world.

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16 minutes ago, Jextella said:

I was grocery shopping the other day and saw Skinny Girl deli meat.  Talk about over-kill.

I don't buy Skinny Girl anything 'cause I have no desire to fund Bethany's world.

And I know why she created it,  for Brynn. Damn it!

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12 hours ago, Mindthinkr said:

Frankly after seeing Ramona dance I don't know if there is hope of changing her gate. Perhaps some ballet for adults classes (to improve balance and show her how to carry herself less awkwardly) but nothing will ever give her grace of movement. 

11 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

Ramona claims her posture (sticking her chest out) is a result of hers studying/taking ballet for 12 years.   She must  have cut a lot of classes.  Ramona is that woman who sticks her chest out and butt out and thinks it looks cute.  Reminds me of gymnast sticking her landing before she raises her arms.  She just over does everything.  If Ramona was a ballerina she would glide through a room and not plod.   Someone once told Ramona to sit straight and she thinks it looks great.  Note Charlize Theron (trained ballet dancer)on WWHL: Compare Ramona: watch-what-happens-live-season-12-galler

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It's amazing that Ramona managed to learn "good" posture from ballet, but no rhythm or grace. I can't believe she says or believes this. We've seen her dance. We've seen her walk. Ballet. Ok. 

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Ramona made a bad decisions when she chose to make her implants that large.  They do absolutely nothing good for her shape or appearance, and she seems to have done it in the wake of her divorce while she's feeling hurt, angry and depressed.  Maybe she did it to "show Mario what he's missing," or because she thinks that's what men want, but she went from normal looking to exceptionally awkward and matronly.   Maybe she'll get tired of them and realize she doesn't look good with them and replace them with smaller implants.  Her friends should be encouraging her to consider that.  If she isn't in therapy, that should be her first stop.  She is so uncomfortable with herself and so miserable.

Sonja is so jealous of Tinsley.  I hope Tinsley has learned to be careful of who she thinks are her friends.  I like Tinsley as an addition to the show as she hasn't really done anything heinous to someone else, so I can tolerate her.  But they need to rename it to Real Ex-Housewives of NY.  Lu is the only married one!

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(wondering why I can't see the "like" feature on the thread after the article...for some reason, the comments following the article don't have the icons at the bottom; when I went to the topic thread, they were visible...just an fyi for the mod)

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2 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

It's amazing that Ramona managed to learn "good" posture from ballet, but no rhythm or grace. I can't believe she says or believes this. We've seen her dance. We've seen her walk. Ballet. Ok. 

Yeah.  How weird is that?  But you or mom can 'pay' for lessons for how ever long.  That doesn't mean you're good at it.  And Ro just doesn't have rhythm or grace. 

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On July 27, 2017 at 3:36 PM, motorcitymom65 said:

She could have been critical in a million different ways, because she is always critical.

So true...I recall her snarking about an event that Jill was affiliated with/hosting, long ago!

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14 minutes ago, breezy424 said:

Yeah.  How weird is that?  But you or mom can 'pay' for lessons for how ever long.  That doesn't mean you're good at it.  And Ro just doesn't have rhythm or grace. 

True!  I took ballet for 9 years.  I apparently needed the 3 more years to learn how to sit like Ramona.  LOL. Oh well. I was always proudly in the last row all the way to the side. Never in front and never in the center for me!

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Luann is a boss. Seriously, damn.

Unless the thought of turning your rectum into Swiss cheese turns you on, then that bull horn wouldn't make for a good butt plug. Dumb Carole. Also, maybe the funky stuff has fried her memory, but she lied about never having surfed before.

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I expected the trip to be something like the meeting Heather had with her clients a few seasons back, where one of the ladies (I've forgotten who) was an embarrassment. 

I believe it was Sonja.

IIRC, Sonja was actually pretty gracious at that meeting (it was Heather asking the HWs to speak that was awkward). Anyway, Beth basically just did a version of Heather's old narrative, because like the others, she needs a storyline. And because she isn't original.

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Just like Ramona, imo, she ruined a great figure -- she was slender but vibrant, never appearing gaunt or "over-trained" (being on camera does strange things to someone's sense of self, the only who seems to have escaped the trap is Luann).

She may have put herself in a corner with that brand name (and making it her whole persona), because now she can't ever be anything but skinny, which obviously isn't her natural state.

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I love that a drunken Sonja is a Luann-lovin' Sonja. As soon as the alcohol hits, she makes a beeline straight for the Countess. Every. Time.

When Sonja picked Luann to shag during the S/M/K game, her reasoning was because "Luann will do ya". I wouldn't doubt they've had a few sexcapades over the years.

So, I guess having your "boyfriend" send flowers while you're on a cast vacation is the new HW thing?

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https://www.trashtalktv.com/07/29/rhony-recap-return-of-the-apologizer/414289/

 

At the distillery, they drink 130 proof tequila. They are so living their best lives right now. They drink out of actual bull horns which Luann muses she can use for other things. Carole, ever subtle gal she is, questions if said usage will be as a butt plug. Luann didn’t say no but I’ll bet she wants to use it for a statement necklace.

Hah!

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21 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

It's amazing that Ramona managed to learn "good" posture from ballet, but no rhythm or grace. I can't believe she says or believes this. We've seen her dance. We've seen her walk. Ballet. Ok. 

Contrary to Ramona's assertion she does not have good posture. She constantly even sitting down arches her back to push out her boobs and her ass. She's an idiot.

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5 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

https://www.trashtalktv.com/07/29/rhony-recap-return-of-the-apologizer/414289/

 

At the distillery, they drink 130 proof tequila. They are so living their best lives right now. They drink out of actual bull horns which Luann muses she can use for other things. Carole, ever subtle gal she is, questions if said usage will be as a butt plug. Luann didn’t say no but I’ll bet she wants to use it for a statement necklace.

Hah!

Thanks for the clarification. I thought Carole's butt plug remark was about herself. (Now it makes sense as another subtle towards Luann and the manufactured gossip about Tom form the dim sum and then some lunch.) Girlfriend is beginning to come off as quite the sexual expert. First, she brought up anal sex, then (incorrectly ) described a jerk circle, then butt plugs. She seems w-a-a-y to straitlaced but ya never know what goes on behind closed doors or on the cat hair covered ratty sofa.

I was getting quite ill just watching all of the drinking. I, too, have tequila at the top of my "never drink again list." My first encounter was actually my first (underage) drink of a tequila sunrise. Ugh. Then, another time, margaritas in the sun. NEVER AGAIN.

I am winding up my first full season watching this bunch and they did not fail to entertain! However, I've got to say that although I find Ramona needy, obnoxious and irritating, I don't dislike her anywhere never the level of Sonja. What a skank and yes, she's about 50 shades of green with jealousy over Tinsley. Bravo has a video that precedes this season's first episode that gives some background on the current group of HWs (which was immensely helpful) and I saw some of the clips of Sonja, in particular, the one where she was flailing around and let's just say that that waxing esthetician had her work cut out for her and I understand why Luann said she's "Sonja's snatch guard." Gross and tacky, just like her nasty townhouse. I am sure that IRL, Tinsley didn't live there for any length of time but how could she stand it?

I liked Lu much better as the season progressed. Her falling drunk into the bushes was one of the funniest things I've seen.  Agreed that she's much more fun when her gigolo husband isn't around. Interesting to see if she's still MARRIED when the next season rolls around.

I can't believe I am saying that I actually like Bethenny -- at least in the past 3-4 episodes. I had seen her in other shows and went in with a preconceived dislike of her. She's abrasive, intense and has a trash mouth but she's also witty and kind of funny in her THs.

I also had preconceived notions about Carole as she was the one I was the most familiar with.  I am fostering a growing dislike of her. She comes across as benign and low-key but has this subtle yet unmistakable air of being a know-it-all. Yet she always seems to skate by. I'd really like for her to speak her scathing TH comments to the face and not in a passive-aggressive manner. 

Ramona has been covered and I agree with most of what everybody else has said.  Having no prior knowledge about her, she appears as needy and desperate and whatever she's done to her face, hair and body aren't sufficing to make her look any younger. She also seems kind of dim-witted.  "I avoid the press like a lee?" WTF?

I like Tinsley better now that she's finally growing a spine and standing up for herself; she just doesn't know when to hold and when to fold. I certainly don't expect her to "get over" a very public DV situation and subsequent arrest, OTOH, who gives a flying f if she's considered an "ungrateful house guest." Her toddler tantrums were embarrassing combined with her ugly wardrobe and outdated makeup. (I can give her a pass on the hair. It's not that terrible and those beachy waves are still very popular across all age groups.) I am actually surprised that she's still seeing "Coupon King" and actually works for him.

I still love me some Dorinda. I mean, who wouldn't after, "CLIP! CLIP! CLIP!"  For me, that's right up there with Luann falling down drunk.

I'm going to be really sorry to see the season end.

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On 7/28/2017 at 2:46 PM, ryebread said:

Yes. But not entirely for the reasons that you did. I don't often think of them so deeply, but I just find them sad. They've got healthy bodies and brains, loads of money - the means to be happy.  But I don't think they are. Not one of them is able to sustain a healthy relationship. Even friendships seem hard. 

I think Dorinda is happy, and I think Carole is happy, but I agree with you about the rest of them.

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6 hours ago, absolutelyido said:

I think Dorinda is happy, and I think Carole is happy, but I agree with you about the rest of them.

I'm not so sure Dorinda is happy -- mean drunks rarely are.

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16 hours ago, jaync said:

Unless the thought of turning your rectum into Swiss cheese turns you on, then that bull horn wouldn't make for a good butt plug. Dumb Carole.

Sometimes a quick "sexual" comment is merely a joking comment.  I thought Carole was funny--not dumb.

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On 7/28/2017 at 3:46 PM, ryebread said:

Yes. But not entirely for the reasons that you did. I don't often think of them so deeply, but I just find them sad. They've got healthy bodies and brains, loads of money - the means to be happy.  But I don't think they are. Not one of them is able to sustain a healthy relationship. Even friendships seem hard. 

The dysfunction runs deep with these women. But anyone who signs up for a HW role has to be dysfunctional at their core, imo. It's a prerequisite for the job. And what makes them interesting to watch. Trainwrecks, all of 'em.

It's sad, but I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for them. How can they watch themselves on TV, year after year, and not think, "Damn, this is messed up." But they sign up again, only the next year they've lost their husbands or jobs or their children will no longer talk to them.  Or they continue being loud obnoxious drunks and lose their respectability. And for what?  Some money and an occasional mention on Page Six. I was going to say that at least they get some nice trips out of it. But I agree with you - how enjoyable can a trip really be if you're going with people you don't even particularly like?

To be fair, we only see a small sliver of their lives.  I'm sure they all have solid, healthy relationships with friends and family.  They are paid to entertain us.  It's a television show.

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