The Lonely Js Club: James, Jackson & Johannah

[gonecrackers]

11 minutes ago, crazy8s said:

I would also not begrudge them helping others. but let's see some pics of them loading the supplies they took. the tools and equipment they took etc .

What we have seen so far they flew 6 people on their own plane, nathan bates went in a helicopter and they started a new twitter sept 1 asking for donations.

they have no FEMA approved status, no pics of them helping anyone, maybe no charitable status.

so this all seems we will see a bunch of bros posing and looking manly (or like douche canoes) while they rake in the money

They seem to just put up staged nonsense self-glorification photos of 'serving others' (but not really doing much) with no real information (credentials? approvals? proof of actual work being done?) so it's that much more offensive to be asking for money.  If they want to fly somewhere to play guitar for kids (or whatever they plan to do) it's fine if they're allowed, but they can fund it themselves.

Edited September 4, 2019 by gonecrackers

[Sew Sumi]

I can't believe that they're expecting the leghumpers to foot their travel expenses, and they don't even have non-profit status. 

[GeeGolly]

6 hours ago, Tasya said:

I'm not seeing how this is a bad thing. Is it self-serving in some way? Of course it is. However the vast majority of organizations/people that go to provide relief after disasters do so to not only "assist" but to be seen "assisting". As long as this group provides some assistance and doesn't take from the Bahamian people, then I don't fault them. Maybe because my timelines are regularly full of people "praying for the people of XX" disaster area but never doing anything to help. Be it monetary, spiritual or otherwise. If the Duggar/Bates bunch goes down there and helps even one then it's better than most people will ever do. Our family has survived a flood disaster and one of the things that meant the most to us was just being able to sit down and talk/laugh with others about things that weren't related. It was so overwhelming that just focusing on something else, however briefly, was a relief. 

I appreciate the fact that you were able to sit and talk with someone during a hard time and found comfort in that. And maybe that's something the Duggar/Bates could do a month from now.

Right now there's nowhere for the residents of the island to sit, nevermind sit and talk with anyone. Families were left outside of shelters during the storm because the shelters were too full. Homes, shelters, schools and churches are gone. The hurricane hovered over Abaco at one mile an hour for over a day. The island looks like a tornado wiped it out.

Now is the time for real help. Shelter, food, water clothing. Do the Duggar/Bates have the ability to provide that? Can they find a certain pacifier for a baby who lost theirs, the baby who no longer has their crib or anything else familiar to them? Can they refill medications for someone who lost them in the storm? Can they provide battery operated everything for an island that's gone dark?

Maybe I'm wrong, maybe they're flying pregnant women and medically complex folks off the island.

But most of me thinks they're acting important and getting in the way.

[Natalie68]

1 hour ago, laurakaye said:

So the Duggars/Bates jumped on a plane, sponsored by a company that also sells dresses (?), into a disaster zone where a major hurricane had barely just passed through, managed to find a landing spot, and then assembled for a group photo op before wandering around aimlessly looking to "help" while Lawson played his guitar?  Do I have this right?   

There is restricted airspace apparently (info from B Frankel who is actually helping) so sounds like it is difficult to get in and out.  Her tweet:

Update: we’re in a holding pattern bc of restricted air space. Working on loading generators, chainsaws & medical equipment onto the sea planes for when we’re cleared. We’ve been endorsed by the Bahamian Consulate as a relief partner. Donate!

So unless the Duggars/Bates are actually doing something they are being a hindrance.  Let's be honest, they are going to get in the way and anyone not paying close attn may donate to their, cough,  'charity' which I doubt will help in anyway.  They are scammy and do everything half assed.  I find it offensive they feel they have something to offer.  

[crazy8s]

https://fox6now.com/2019/09/04/theyre-creating-fake-charities-bbb-warms-of-scammers-amid-hurricane-dorian/

BBB lists

The BBB created a list of charities that meet their criteria for donating:

American Humane

American Red Cross

Direct Relief

GlobalGiving

Humane Society of the United States

Heart to Heart International

Salvation Army

Save the Children

World Vision

i reported mediccorps as a possible fraud

[Bewitched]

I would hope World Central Kitchen gets added to their list.  I know they already have food and kitchen setups on the ground in the Bahamas.  

I wonder if it is easier for groups like this (the Duggars) to respond to poorer countries because those governments don't always have the resources to police the lookeyloos.  

Edited September 4, 2019 by Bewitched

[JoanArc]

What blows my mind is just how quickly the Duggars jumped on this. Like, they had it all ready to go just waiting for God to screw a country over, so they could have a grifitng/soulwinning vacation. Is this the new thing now that SOS is done with them?

[crazy8s]

7 minutes ago, Bewitched said:

I would hope World Central Kitchen gets added to their list.  I know they already have food and kitchen setups on the ground in the Bahamas.  

I wonder if it is easier for groups like this (the Duggars) to respond to poorer countries because those governments don't always have the resources to police the lookeyloos.  

yes, i hope so too - many smaller charities go about their business quietly, do their work and do it well

[fonfereksglen]

8 minutes ago, JoanArc said:

What blows my mind is just how quickly the Duggars jumped on this. Like, they had it all ready to go just waiting for God to screw a country over, so they could have a grifitng/soulwinning vacation. Is this the new thing now that SOS is done with them?

TLC?

[NotthebadVictoria]

Someone needs to quote them Matthew:

6 “Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.

2 “So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 3 But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4 so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

[MargeGunderson]

1 hour ago, fonfereksglen said:

TLC?

Not having to show up for work everyday gives them an advantage I guess.

[Ohiopirate02]

1 hour ago, Bewitched said:

I would hope World Central Kitchen gets added to their list.  I know they already have food and kitchen setups on the ground in the Bahamas.  

I wonder if it is easier for groups like this (the Duggars) to respond to poorer countries because those governments don't always have the resources to police the lookeyloos.  

The Bahamas are a Commonwealth country so the government is not going to put up with their chicanery.   It will take longer for the Royal Navy to show up, but it is only a matter of time.  This is not a poor country like Haiti where they might get away with it.  The people speak English and are better educated than the Duggars and Bateses.**

**I'm laughing to myself if the Duggars and Bateses are ignorant of this fact.   I bet they are and they can be in for a rude awakening.

Edited September 5, 2019 by Ohiopirate02

[Westiepeach]

Yeah, so they do think they are helping the Bohemians. So there is that. *eyeroll*

[galaxygirl76]

9 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

The Bahamas are a Commonwealth country so the government is not going to put up with their chicanery.   It will take longer for the Royal Navy to show up, but it is only a matter of time.  This is not a poor country like Haiti where they might get away with it.  The people speak English and are better educated than the Duggars and Bateses.**

**I'm laughing to myself if the Duggars and Bateses are ignorant of this fact.   I bet they are and they can be in for a rude awakening.

Ooh that's right, the British are coming! Yeah their navy ain't gonna deal with their brand of 'helping'. 

[ranchgirl]

They had to have some kind of clearance to even land, right?  

Austin, John, Nathan and Lawson do have experience in medical missions and previous relief work … although I am not sure at what level.  James and whoever the other Duggers are that were in the picture, have been through ALERT training … so that should come in handy, right?  (Snark)  I know at ALERT, they learned how to make a human chain and get things passed down it quickly like cases of water or cleaning off wood from a blocked road etc. 

Jana can be a welcoming face that residents can get information from …  maybe?  

If anything, Austin, John and Nathan know how to work chainsaws and heavy machinery … maybe that will be of some assistance.  They are not afraid of hard work.  They are also pilots.  

And Lawson can play that guitar and entertain the children.  

It makes me mad that they now have this CORP and are asking for donations.  Didn't they learned anything from the Dullards SOS mess?                                                                                                                 A few of them have some skills that can be needed there right now.   Maybe they will join forces with a big, more organized relief group and can be of service.  

ETA: Just trying to make some sense of it all.  I don't think they would have gone if they didn't know that they could land and be of some help.  

Edited September 5, 2019 by ranchgirl

[YupItsMe]

10 hours ago, galaxygirl76 said:

Dressed in sponsored clothing and swipe up to donate. Not to the actual cause but to them so they can go and be in the way there. 

<snip>

The donations may also be used to provide support to the families left behind while the men are away from their regular “jobs”. 😏

[Sew Sumi]

I wonder if they set up MedicCorps when it looked like Dorian was going straight towards Florida? They don't have a non-profit exemption, the Twitter was created on 9/1, and who knows how long the IG and website have been up? 

It's just curious that all of a sudden they're operating under a business name when they've shown up at several prior disaster scenes prior to Dorian.

[cmr2014]

53 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

I wonder if they set up MedicCorps when it looked like Dorian was going straight towards Florida? They don't have a non-profit exemption, the Twitter was created on 9/1, and who knows how long the IG and website have been up? 

It's just curious that all of a sudden they're operating under a business name when they've shown up at several prior disaster scenes prior to Dorian.

I don't recall them showing up at previous disaster scenes. 

The entire family showed up after some tornadoes in Alabama, and painted some pots for some inexplicable reason. I believe that they also showed up after the tornado in Joplin, MO and did nothing.

I don't recall them doing anything else, though. I remember commenting after Harvey that they might want to actually DO SOMETHING since they had money and a plane, and didn't work, but they did nothing -- except possibly send "thoughts and prayers."

I don't think that actually doing things for other people really registers on their radar. God sends hurricanes to other places and wreaks havoc on other people because he is a vengeful God who hates non-Gothardites. Going to "help" these people and collecting money for doing so is good because they are good Gothardites and they deserve money and recognition for their service to these bad people that God has smitten.

[kokapetl]

4 hours ago, ranchgirl said:

They had to have some kind of clearance to even land, right?  

Austin, John, Nathan and Lawson do have experience in medical missions and previous relief work … although I am not sure at what level.  James and whoever the other Duggers are that were in the picture, have been through ALERT training … so that should come in handy, right?  (Snark)  I know at ALERT, they learned how to make a human chain and get things passed down it quickly like cases of water or cleaning off wood from a blocked road etc. 

Jana can be a welcoming face that residents can get information from …  maybe?  

If anything, Austin, John and Nathan know how to work chainsaws and heavy machinery … maybe that will be of some assistance.  They are not afraid of hard work.  They are also pilots.  

And Lawson can play that guitar and entertain the children.  

It makes me mad that they now have this CORP and are asking for donations.  Didn't they learned anything from the Dullards SOS mess?                                                                                                                 A few of them have some skills that can be needed there right now.   Maybe they will join forces with a big, more organized relief group and can be of service.  

ETA: Just trying to make some sense of it all.  I don't think they would have gone if they didn't know that they could land and be of some help.  

I’m not sure their Mitsubishi could have carried much cargo for them to human chain off their plane, it would have been pretty full up with the pilot and the 7 complete burdens. 

[MsJamieDornan]

I'm not sure what you are all talking about. The Duggars are very experienced and have many skills to offer these people.

Jill can hand out small pieces of banana bread. Derrick can teach interpretive dance. Jeremy can teach them to fold pockets squares and Jinger can tie head wraps. Josiah can cook with old left over food. Lauren can talk about herself.  Michelle can chose stylish footwear for everyone and Jana can do just about anything. Just ask her.

[EVS]

22 hours ago, galaxygirl76 said:

They thrive on the glory and attention they get for being good scamatarians. 

It amuses me that it's MedicCorps when the C in Medic already stands for corps. 

Me too. It reminds me of “The La Trattoria”. 

(Obscure movie reference of the day)

[GeeGolly]

So many names they could have chosen. Alert Corp, Christian Corp, Medics for Jesus, Paw Patrol Air.

They choose a poser name to get them in the door. Maybe instead asking what Jesus would do, they asked Derick.

[Natalie68]

12 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

So many names they could have chosen. Alert Corp, Christian Corp, Medics for Jesus, Paw Patrol Air.

They choose a poser name to get them in the door. Maybe instead asking what Jesus would do, they asked Derick.

Duggar DoRight, Save a Sinner, Flying for Jesus Ministry, really there are endless opportunities.  I think the only reason this crew got any sort of media attn is they were the only ones NOT too busy to talk to said media.  Everyone else there was actually busting their hump helping folks.  Out of everyone there THESE are the people they speak to?  Not Red Cross, not actual Medicorp, or anyone with some actual skills provided by an actual school but these yahoos.  

[Lunera]

They've been out doing "rescues" for 2 days and they're already posting testimonies.

I think Jana is there for PR. She's completely useless, probably just sitting around making these graphics and updating their Instagram. 

[JoanArc]

35 minutes ago, Lunera said:

I think Jana is there for PR. She's completely useless, probably just sitting around making these graphics and updating their Instagram. 

Maybe this is a fundie female version of those travel abroad mail order bride trips, you know, we’re men spend tens of thousands of dollars to visit another country and “mingle” quote with available women in hopes of getting married. 

 Either that, or Jana is constantly repeating “stop trying to make Lawson happen, it isn’t going to happen” to any poor bohemian who will listen. 

 I like the name Airheads for the charity, either that or the Flying Pharisees. 

[Future Cat Lady]

Maybe it's just me, but the anonymous testimony with the words "a miracle from God" sounds fishy. 

[Ohiopirate02]

23 minutes ago, Future Cat Lady said:

Maybe it's just me, but the anonymous testimony with the words "a miracle from God" sounds fishy. 

I thought the same thing.  That testimony is so vague.

[BitterApple]

39 minutes ago, Future Cat Lady said:

Maybe it's just me, but the anonymous testimony with the words "a miracle from God" sounds fishy. 

I agree. I love the line, "Thank you Medic Corp for caring and actually helping," as if the legitimate rescue outfits are drinking margaritas and playing Scrabble on the beach. I'd bet Fundies are much more willing to donate if they believe the money's going to their own kind, hence the God-speak. 

Edited September 7, 2019 by BitterApple

[Churchhoney]

"The Flying Pharisees." 😀😈🤡😸😎

[Temperance]

At this point Jana should marry either one of the Bates boys; they deserve each other. 

[ginger90]

[galaxygirl76]

Did those people ask to have their picture taken?

[doodlebug]

1 minute ago, galaxygirl76 said:

Did those people ask to have their picture taken?

And, if they did, were they ok with it being put on the Instagram Account of a minor reality TV stah with thousands and thousands of followers?  Someone with controversial religious beliefs?

[JoanArc]

2 minutes ago, galaxygirl76 said:

Did those people ask to have their picture taken?

I 100% believe Jana had nothing to do with those people. She just randomly took a picture to post.

[Churchhoney]

44 minutes ago, galaxygirl76 said:

Did those people ask to have their picture taken?

I'm betting heavily on "no.'

[Churchhoney]

1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

"with a response team from @mediccorps"       Disingenuous much, you weaselly lying liar? I find this pretense and repeated slimy parsing of words about the nature of their phony not-quite-a-nonprofit-nonprofit-with-the-duplicitous-name -- with which they've been "serving" -- deeply offensive. 

As long as the Duggarlings were young enough not to be spokespeople I could kind of ignore a lot of them.

But now that they're old enough to have agency more and more of them are just taking over where their parents are leaving off on the list of people who truly disgust me. Jed and his smug-smarmy politically ambitious face and Joy and Jana with their dissembling garbage and shutting down of inconvenient truths about their damn "charity." The SOTDRT is a lousy school, but they sure taught them this shit very well. 

Edited September 9, 2019 by Churchhoney

[mythoughtis]

1 hour ago, JoanArc said:

I 100% believe Jana had nothing to do with those people. She just randomly took a picture to post.

A picture of an Undamaged area, which would indicate to me they are far away from the hardest hit areas. 

[skatelady]

Quote

The devastation here is unthinkable, but it is hopeful to see reuniting and rebuilding already beginning to take place. 🇧🇸 ❤️ #hurricanedorian

The "BS" at the end of the sentence shows at least a little self-awareness...

[Churchhoney]

11 hours ago, skatelady said:

The "BS" at the end of the sentence shows at least a little self-awareness...

What the heck does she mean by that, anyway? 

I've never seen BS mean anything but "bullshit" or "big smile." And I can't imagine what either of those would be doing there (aside from @skatelady 's interpretation!).....

Can someone enlighten me? 

[dargosmydaddy]

6 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

What the heck does she mean by that, anyway? 

I've never seen BS mean anything but "bullshit" or "big smile." And I can't imagine what either of those would be doing there (aside from @skatelady 's interpretation!).....

Can someone enlighten me? 

I had to Google it, but apparently it's an abbreviation for Bahamas.

[Churchhoney]

58 minutes ago, dargosmydaddy said:

I had to Google it, but apparently it's an abbreviation for Bahamas.

Thanks! ... .It's a standardized country code to use for mail or on computer listings or something -- because it's simpler and less vulnerable to spelling errors or translation errors than full country names. I get it. 

Can't imagine why Jana stuck it into her post, though. 

[Nysha]

She added a heart after it, so I'm guessing it's short for I love the Bahamas.

[Churchhoney]

17 minutes ago, Nysha said:

She added a heart after it, so I'm guessing it's short for I love the Bahamas.

Duh. ....Thank you. 

I'm quite slow today! 

Edited September 9, 2019 by Churchhoney

[realityfan26]

8 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

What the heck does she mean by that, anyway? 

I've never seen BS mean anything but "bullshit" or "big smile." And I can't imagine what either of those would be doing there (aside from @skatelady 's interpretation!).....

Can someone enlighten me? 

I looked at the post on my phone and the Bahamian flag shows up; not BS. I'm sure she didn't realize that the flag doesn't show up on all devices.

[Sew Sumi]

Yeah, I was wondering what the commotion was about. I never saw BS, but did see the flag both on my phone and tablet.

[Churchhoney]

1 hour ago, realityfan26 said:

I looked at the post on my phone and the Bahamian flag shows up; not BS. I'm sure she didn't realize that the flag doesn't show up on all devices.

Aha! Makes more sense all the time. 

1 hour ago, Sew Sumi said:

Yeah, I was wondering what the commotion was about. I never saw BS, but did see the flag both on my phone and tablet.

Whereas I can't see the flag at all......Maybe it prefers certain zip codes...😀

[jcbrown]

1 hour ago, Sew Sumi said:

Yeah, I was wondering what the commotion was about. I never saw BS, but did see the flag both on my phone and tablet.

Color me also confused. I saw the flag. Interesting that her post autocorrects to truthful on some devices.

[BigBingerBro]

I see the "BS" as I only use this site on a PC.

[skatelady]

Well, then, it should probably be BO rather than BS. You know... Bohemians. 

[crazy8s]

can anyone find the Mediccorps site today?

last week a google search brought it up and today nothing.

maybe they shut down their fake charity page

it is also no longer shown on the johnson marketing and media page

Edited September 11, 2019 by crazy8s
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