The Lonely Js Club: James, Jackson & Johannah

[Arwen Evenstar]

Not seen a single post from Duggars to pray for Puerto Rico and USVI. Their lives matter, too. Aaaaaaaaand, many expectant mothers there carrying VERY wanted and much loved children under extreme duress, struggling to survive amid a lack of food, water, prenatal care, and sanitation.  Many women are in danger of suffering miscarriages, premature labor, as well as being exposed to Zika.

i guess handing out tracts and DumDums is all we can expect from their ilk.

[Sew Sumi]

As I noted in the Friends thread, they really don't have space in those tiny planes to carry anything meaningful to help.   I don't know why they didn't take the Mitsubishi. That would have looked a little bit more legitimate. 

[Christina87]

7 hours ago, lascuba said:

While I'm not fully convinced yet, I don't disagree with this, either. At this point, I think it's a fair assumption to say that Jana is, at the very least, content with her life, and any desire for marriage and kids is more theoretical than anything else at this point. Because if she really were unhappy, she would have easily been long married by now. Pickiness is smart, no doubt, but I have to wonder how much of that pickiness is just masking a lack of desire for marriage (I always called myself picky--which I am--before it really hit me that I just had zero interest in marriage, so I'm projecting, here), because in her world, where being a wife and mother is the only ambition she's allowed, it's just odd that she wouldn't have met anyone that she'd consider marrying. There's no doubt that plenty of men have been interested.

There's a whole lot of possible reasons that likely intersect:

1) She's not that romantic, falling desperately in love/lust type like Jill and Jinger, so she thinks a lot more about the ramifications of marrying a particular suitor in a way that I doubt those two did;

2) She's also not the pragmatic Jessa, who wanted to be married so went for the first guy she liked who met all her requirements for a husband (too bad financial independence wasn't on that list). 

3) She clearly hates being on the show, so any man who's eager to be part of it turns her off on a subconscious level.

4)She's got a good deal going now...a large house she runs without the financial responsibility and freedom to do what she wants (wants that have been molded by her upbringing, of course, but how to separate the two at this point?) except avoiding the cameras, and no potential suitor has been able to match that. Why go live with a stranger she'd have to answer to when she's got a comfortable, familiar gig?

On top of all that, I think she had a courtship go bad-JB didn't approve?-that probably soured her on the whole thing. 

In short, if Jana wanted to be married by now, she would be. 

I actually think #3 is a huge part of it. She doesn't want an entire season focused on her. I bet she's thought for years, "hey, the show can't go on much longer, can it?" I wouldn't be surprised if she got married right after the show ended. 

[Sew Sumi]

1 hour ago, Christina87 said:

I actually think #3 is a huge part of it. She doesn't want an entire season focused on her. I bet she's thought for years, "hey, the show can't go on much longer, can it?" I wouldn't be surprised if she got married right after the show ended. 

Unfortunately, KJB would never allow Jana's wedding to be a quiet, un-televised affair. Even if they cancel Counting On after they've run out of boys to marry off, Jana's wedding will be a stand-alone VSE. The leghumpers want that payoff.

[xwordfanatik]

24 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Unfortunately, KJB would never allow Jana's wedding to be a quiet, un-televised affair. Even if they cancel Counting On after they've run out of boys to marry off, Jana's wedding will be a stand-alone VSE. The leghumpers want that payoff.

You're probably right, and how sad is that?  Famewhore parents who think it's all about them.  

[Annb67]

On 9/30/2017 at 11:30 PM, Kokapetl said:

Reed basket, pillows, and a pot of fussy flowers. It’s too late, David Waller is taken.

In a dress...?

[Temperance]

8 hours ago, Arwen Evenstar said:

Not seen a single post from Duggars to pray for Puerto Rico and USVI. Their lives matter, too. Aaaaaaaaand, many expectant mothers there carrying VERY wanted and much loved children under extreme duress, struggling to survive amid a lack of food, water, prenatal care, and sanitation.  Many women are in danger of suffering miscarriages, premature labor, as well as being exposed to Zika.

i guess handing out tracts and DumDums is all we can expect from their ilk.

If I could like this a thousand times, I would!!!

Edited October 2, 2017 by Temperance

[RedheadZombie]

5 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

Unfortunately, KJB would never allow Jana's wedding to be a quiet, un-televised affair. Even if they cancel Counting On after they've run out of boys to marry off, Jana's wedding will be a stand-alone VSE. The leghumpers want that payoff.

Well, here are my wishes for Jana's hypothetical future marriage.  Jana and groom "meet cute", similar to Zach Bates and Whitney.  They court as long as they want, and are engaged as long as they want.  Jill and Jessa are left behind altering dresses while Jana and the rest go out partying in typical pre-wedding fundy fun.  Unlike her siblings, Jana has class and does not go for the cash/gift grabs.  She does, however, inform Jessa that she's expecting a beautiful jewelry box - the best her money can buy.  Jill and Jessa are part of the wedding party, but at the very end of the line, indicating they are her least favorite.  Jana either kisses hubby at the altar, or doesn't, and it's totally her own call.  She and hubby leave the reception ASAP, but not for sex - they've already sealed the deal on their terms.  No, they're rushing to get to the pharmacy before it closes to pick up her birth control pills. 

After double-crossing Jim Bob, Jana negotiates her own VSE and People cover.  In her cover issue, People comments that Jana's dress is far lovelier than Jessa's pink princess gown, and Jeremy is dethroned as "best" husband.  After the honeymoon, Jana and hubby inform JB and Michelle to never, ever come over without a direct invitation, and dropping off children is totally unacceptable. 

Jana has exactly the number of children she wants, with absolutely no concern for God's wishes.  And although Jana's husband is strong, intelligent, and gets his hand's dirty, she's got him wrapped around her finger and does exactly as she pleases.  When JB and Michelle start wearing diapers, Jana frees Josie from potential caretaking duties, and checks her parents into a crappy, rundown nursing home, where they live as roommates.  Jana takes her proper place as matriarch of the family, either finds her twin a woman, or sanctions his bachelorhood, and everybody comes when they're invited to kiss her ring.  The end.

[MichaelaRae]

Oh, Jana, my love, it's your theme song: 

[PradaKitty]

Jana may be like one of my co-workers. She (the co-worker) is a very nice, fun young woman in her early thirties.  She is not interested in men, nor is she interested in women, either.  She is perfectly content living with her parents and paying rent to them.

[Temperance]

I don't want her to get married unless she wants to. 

[DangerousMinds]

IF she ever wants to marry, I hope she elopes.

[lulu69]

If we're throwing out fantasy scenarios let's go all the way. I hope Jana is already married (assuming that's what she wants) and living on the down low with her non-Boob approved non-fundy husband. They use birth control and do whatever they damn well please. Boob's head is exploding but he keeps quiet to keep the gravy train rolling.

Edited October 2, 2017 by lulu69
Clarity

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

20 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

Won't see this on the show....

Eye roll. Gee, why don't you DO something to help mothers/pregnant women in crisis situations....like volunteer as a free babysitter to a mom who needs childcare to support her family or donate supplies to a shelter for women & children? Why don't you donate money to or campaign for politicans who will push funding for early childhood programs, food stamps, WIC, etc that help women with young children who are in "crisis" or politicans who support *radical* things (like most of the developed world besides the US has) like paid parental leave & universal health care? Why don't you spend that Duggar cash on diapers and bring them to some low-income families? Why don't you make dinner for a local working class family or pay their light bill this month? 

If you can't do that, Duggar Boys, why don't you sit down and shut up since you're not a woman and you won't ever know what a "crisis pregnancy" is like?

1 hour ago, Temperance said:

I don't want her to get married unless she wants to. 

Same. I just hope that she does have a choice about getting married, versus JB keeping her a "stay-at-home-daughter" all these years. I wouldn't think he'd do that, but 1) who else is going to run the household? We know JB & Michelle aren't and 2) other Fundie families have SAH-Daughters, so it isn't an unheard of thing; it seems to be a part of this culture. So is Jana a SAH-Daughter by choice, because JB has truly conditioned her/only allowed her to do so, or is it a combination of the two?

I hope whatever is going on, it's really Jana making the decisions about her life and I hope she is happy.

Jana had a front seat to Michelle's laundry room break-down and has seen some sh*t in her childhood (and heck, in her adulthood, too). I can totally understand IF she has no desire to have her own children or feels like its best for her siblings & parents if she remains the one in charge at TTH. 

Edited October 2, 2017 by MyPeopleAreNordic

[Natalie68]

I am hoping Jana has a Boston Marriage.  

[Portia]

These pics say it all. Really shining the light of Jesus there. 

   

[Annb67]

1 hour ago, Portia said:

These pics say it all. Really shining the light of Jesus there. 

   

Nasty ass sneer. I'd like to pop him right in that mouth.

[beckie]

That shed thing might be the closest Jana ever comes to having her own place. I hope she gets a lock for the door.

[MamaMax]

On 10/1/2017 at 4:03 PM, Arwen Evenstar said:

Yes, if you have your own place, your own money, and you don't have to raise a passel of your siblings because your parents are too checked out / obsessed with their own grandeur to raise them.

And as soon as the youngest one leaves, Jana will be free to change Boob and Mechelle's diapers. Seriously, the lone SAHD would be the nartual choice for elder caretaker.

I think Jana will marry someday, and have an average number of kids. 

[flyingdi]

20 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

I am hoping Jana has a Boston Marriage.  

I'll bite.  What's a Boston marriage?

[doodlebug]

19 minutes ago, flyingdi said:

I'll bite.  What's a Boston marriage?

Back in the day, two women who remained single and lived together were referred to as having a 'Boston marriage'.  In some cases, this probably happened out of economic necessity, but many of these women were obviously involved in a romantic relationship that was not considered 'proper'.  Apparently, it was something that happened a fair amount in Boston years ago, and became a euphemism for a lesbian relationship.

[flyingdi]

Thanks, doodlebug!

[Lunera]

In the latest episode I noticed in the girls room there is a nook with a full sized bed and a curtain for privacy. I wonder if that's Jana's area, if so that's incredibly sad. I wish they'd build her one of those tiny living houses in the backyard. 

[doodlebug]

15 minutes ago, Lunera said:

In the latest episode I noticed in the girls room there is a nook with a full sized bed and a curtain for privacy. I wonder if that's Jana's area, if so that's incredibly sad. I wish they'd build her one of those tiny living houses in the backyard. 

I hope that she is allowed at least that much privacy and doesn't have to share the bed with precious miracle or any of the other little girls.  And, yes, she deserves a private room, complete with a door that locks and her own bathroom that she doesn't have to share with anyone, ever.

[drafan]

28 minutes ago, Lunera said:

In the latest episode I noticed in the girls room there is a nook with a full sized bed and a curtain for privacy. I wonder if that's Jana's area, if so that's incredibly sad. I wish they'd build her one of those tiny living houses in the backyard. 

Wasn't that Anna's punishment area while Joshley was in Jesus Jail?

[Sew Sumi]

Yes it was. 

[floridamom]

I think that curtained off area in the girls' dormitory is for Laura. She obviously lives there...she MAY be the kids' tutor...or I mean teacher, which goes against Arkansas Homeschooling rules. The Duggar parents would never THINK to give Jana, a fully grown woman of 27 years old her own space.

[Lunera]

39 minutes ago, floridamom said:

I think that curtained off area in the girls' dormitory is for Laura. She obviously lives there...she MAY be the kids' tutor...or I mean teacher, which goes against Arkansas Homeschooling rules. The Duggar parents would never THINK to give Jana, a fully grown woman of 27 years old her own space.

I think grandma's old room is Laura's. How embarrassing would it be if JB offered that miserable corner to their paid tutor. No way is she turning into the new Duggar sister mom.

In that episode Jana and Joy kept going in the "room" to get clothes.

Edited October 3, 2017 by Lunera

[ariel]

On ‎10‎/‎1‎/‎2017 at 5:13 PM, Sew Sumi said:

Won't see this on the show....

Well isn't that special, a bunch of angry looking men dictating to women what their reproductive choices should be.

[Churchhoney]

6 hours ago, Lunera said:

In the latest episode I noticed in the girls room there is a nook with a full sized bed and a curtain for privacy. I wonder if that's Jana's area, if so that's incredibly sad. I wish they'd build her one of those tiny living houses in the backyard. 

Yeah, but then she'd be too far from her assignments. Somebody'd have to CALL her to deal with the chores that came up. .... It's kinda like Grandma being installed next to the laundry room all those years. JB and M are efficiency experts. Their slaves are installed in places where they won't waste time commuting. 

Edited October 3, 2017 by Churchhoney

[cmr2014]

5 hours ago, floridamom said:

The Duggar parents would never THINK to give Jana, a fully grown woman of 27 years old her own space.

I think that you're right. I think that they literally NEVER THINK about her. If someone asks, they have a pat answer of "Jana LOVES sharing a room with her sisters. We asked the kids when we moved into the TTH if they wanted separate rooms, but they INSISTED on staying together" with a side of "many young men have asked to court Jana, but she's very picky."

I think that JB and J'chelle  get up in the morning (afternoon) and wander around doing whatever it is they do all day without the slightest thought about any of their kids. Jana will see that they are "dressed" and "fed" and then Laura will "teach" them, and then it will be prayer time, and then bed time -- rinse and repeat.

[Aethera]

Folks, I get that Josiah posted about abortion on Instagram, but our site does not allow political discussion that doesn't relate directly to show content, and even then, it has to be about the show content itself, not your own opinions. This, in particular, is a topic where it's impossible to divorce personal feelings and views from discussion of Josiah's post. Please do not continue the discussion about abortion or any other inherently political topic. I know the Duggars tempt us constantly with their social media, but we'll simply have to resist, in order to follow the site rules.

[Caracoa1]

Are we honestly to believe that at 27 yrs of age that John David prefers sleeping in a dormitory with 7 other brothers?  Are we to believe that at 27 that John David has no sexual urges and has never "taken care of business" on his own?  

[queenanne]

Just now, Caracoa1 said:

Are we honestly to believe that at 27 yrs of age that John David prefers sleeping in a dormitory with 7 other brothers?  Are we to believe that at 27 that John David has no sexual urges and has never "taken care of business" on his own?  

You assume Jim Bob and Michelle have considered that the thoughts and wishes of teenagers should be re-evaluated when said teenager is pushing 30.

[MelsW]

On 10/3/2017 at 2:41 PM, floridamom said:

I think that curtained off area in the girls' dormitory is for Laura. She obviously lives there...she MAY be the kids' tutor...or I mean teacher, which goes against Arkansas Homeschooling rules. The Duggar parents would never THINK to give Jana, a fully grown woman of 27 years old her own space.

I’m hoping Laura whisks Jana away from the TTH and they get an apartment together.  I’d watch the hell out of that show.

[Churchhoney]

4 hours ago, queenanne said:

You assume Jim Bob and Michelle have considered that the thoughts and wishes of teenagers should be re-evaluated when said teenager is pushing 30.

Or 50. Should such a misfortune occur in this family. 

And it could. 

[madpsych78]

7 hours ago, Caracoa1 said:

Are we honestly to believe that at 27 yrs of age that John David prefers sleeping in a dormitory with 7 other brothers?  Are we to believe that at 27 that John David has no sexual urges and has never "taken care of business" on his own?  

See, that's the benefit of having a house you own, even if you don't live there full time. JD could have gone to that house to relieve himself!

[TresGatos]

Quote

Color me shocked!! Virginia Woolf NEVER thought of such a thing 100 years ago. . . <rolls eyes>

(I hope she has it fully soundproofed and can lock & bolt it to keep out the overly demanding family members when needed.)

After I posted about the She Shed I noticed that there is a commercial running that features a She Shed and the tag line "No bras allowed" with the bra being flung over the doorknob so I hope this is exactly the kind of She Shed Jana has.

[EAG46]

The phrases "she-shed" and "man-cave" normally make me want to scream and throw things.  Call them retreats, dens, offices, rec rooms, anything else.  But if any Duggar needs a place to hide away and be by herself, Jana certainly does.  

[ariel]

11 minutes ago, EAG46 said:

The phrases "she-shed" and "man-cave" normally make me want to scream and throw things.  Call them retreats, dens, offices, rec rooms, anything else.  

ITA - can I add the term "hacks" to the list?

[Arwen Evenstar]

3 minutes ago, ariel said:

ITA - can I add the term "hacks" to the list?

Yes. For me too. It always conjures up the image of someone with a machete 

[GleamingMist]

When is the season finale of this show?  Don't they usually announce a new courtship/pregnancy/whatever right before?  I'm expecting one soon especially as they have no kids courting and I imagine no one gives two craps about any other pregnancy except maybe Jinger (and she and Jeremy seem like theyre in no hurry).

[Sew Sumi]

Well, Monday appears to be [All About] Tomboy Joy (yes, that's the episode name), but they have so little footage of her that there's wedding planning included. 10/16 is a rerun of the wedding. My guide doesn't go past that, so I can't say if that's the season finale or not. It is Episode 6, which is all they had last season, excluding the After Show bits.

Edited October 7, 2017 by Sew Sumi

[mynextmistake]

I just had a really sad thought while looking at the media thread, which is talking about the Duggars' lawsuit against In Touch for publishing the information about Josh molesting his sisters. Jana was the girl who wasn't molested, but she witnessed Jim Bob and Michelle's terrible handling of the situation and all of the aftermath of that. Do y'all think she might be staying at Jim Bob and Michelle's instead of going off to make her own life because she's afraid that if she leaves, the younger girls could be in danger? Maybe staying is the only way she can think of to protect her sisters?

If so... God. Poor Jana. 

[cmr2014]

Whatever is going on with Jana, I think her parent's poor parenting is, at least, part of it. It's got to be kind of scary to leave small children in the care of people who just don't give a shit. I don't blame the others for wanting to get out and essentially throwing their siblings to the wolves, but I don't blame Jana for staying.

[Nysha]

I think that part of the reason Jana isn't taking off to be married is that she is too responsible to leave the rearing of her younger siblings to whomever Jim Bob & Michelle drag in to take care of them. Couldn't you just see Jill Rodriguez happily handing over her two oldest daughters to become unpaid nannies for the Duggar children and grandchildren?

[Sew Sumi]

Oh, that would be JRod's dream, but it won't happen. The Rods are way down the Duggar Food Chain. Watching Jill's FB blather, the Duggars would actually be far to "wordly" for them. 

[floridamom]

Jana doesn't seem to have any personal opinion about anything. She was trained up to believe whatever her father decides is the Godly, right thing, no matter what the situation. I think she has no bad opinion about how Jim Bob and Michelle handled the "Josh" situation at all.  She's at home because that's what she's allowed to do..just stay at home, continue her chores and responsibilities until daddy tells her he has 'the guy for her' to court. I don't understand why she and John David aren't married with 5 children apiece already. It goes against their beliefs to have them still single. Something is up with those two, but I can't figure it out. Their parents are tight lipped about that situation and it's curious as to why.

[Catfin]

It was mentioned in another thread that Jana had a "harness for Willow." Does she have a pet of some sort? 

[BitterApple]

5 hours ago, floridamom said:

Something is up with those two, but I can't figure it out. Their parents are tight lipped about that situation and it's curious as to why.

I agree. I find it strange that they're both approaching 30 and neither appears to have any prospects on the horizon. JD isn't a looker, but he's one of the only Duggar boys who has actual skills to support a family, and you'd think that would be valued in a cult where most of the families are sleeping eight to a bedroom and living off bologna sandwiches. 

Jana is attractive, experienced with children and has been effectively running a household for a decade, yet she's sitting on the shelf while brain-dead Joy is pregnant with her first kid. It makes no sense.

Edited October 14, 2017 by BitterApple