Jorge & Anfisa: We Are Living in a Material World

[Arwen Evenstar]

She's not ugly, but not a beauty by mostly anyone's standards. She's a butterface.

[Ivanova]

On 9/11/2017 at 1:45 PM, sleepyjean said:

I wonder if Jorge is the one taking photos of her for Instagram. And if not him, then who?

Miranda, maybe? ☺

[AdorkableWitch]

You know, she would make an excellent financial dominatrix. There are men who want to spend money on women, especially to be then treated badly.  It's right up her alley. 

[Arwen Evenstar]

1 hour ago, AdorkableWitch said:

You know, she would make an excellent financial dominatrix. There are men who want to spend money on women, especially to be then treated badly.  It's right up her alley. 

Jorge seems to enjoy being her worm. Different strokes I guess. 

[spankydoll]

Is anyone in the 90 Day Fiance Oct 8 FB group. A guy name Kris Medley posted the most hysterical Anfisa video. I have watched it eight times and all of my makeup has run off from the tears. I don't know how to share it por if I even can. 

[CoachWristletJen]

From Anfisa's pumpkin patch photo shoot, 2016 and 2017.

On 8/31/2017 at 5:27 PM, Desert Rat said:

No thanks, I do not want to see anymore of her body than I already have, but in sure she would jump at the opportunity to be on that show.

She would last about ten minutes.

"It's hot! TAKE ME HOME! AND BRING MY RED MAKEUP BAIG! GRRRR..."

Edited September 27, 2017 by CoachWristletJen
forgot the I in BAIG

[Ivanova]

6 minutes ago, CoachWristletJen said:

From Anfisa's pumpkin patch photo shoot.

I though it was from last year... I remember seeing this pic before.

[Baltimore Betty]

13 hours ago, spankydoll said:

Is anyone in the 90 Day Fiance Oct 8 FB group. A guy name Kris Medley posted the most hysterical Anfisa video. I have watched it eight times and all of my makeup has run off from the tears. I don't know how to share it por if I even can. 

Where do I find that group?

[spankydoll]

5 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Where do I find that group?

I think that I just searched on FB by the name 90 day fiance

[mamadrama]

Every time I sign into my bank, I am greeted with this stock image that always reminds me of Jorge. 

[CofCinci]

Any updates?

[CofCinci]

http://m.tmz.com/#2018/02/15/90-day-fiance-star-jorge-nava-arrested-293-pounds-marijuana/

Looks like he’ll most likely go to prison for a while. I wonder if there will be a Love After Lockup cross-over. Same producers....

[suzeecat]

So, will Jorge's arrest leave Anfisa free to roam unfettered by an American husband?  And if so, I wouldn't put it past Anfisa alerting the authorities and giving them the head's up on Jorge's business activities. 

[MakingBacon]

I thought someone posted somewhere they weren’t together anymore and she had a new man.

I always wondered if Jorge actually had a license to sell MJ here. I thought it was odd when he was going to make that sale in a parking lot. Plus,   I wonder if he could even get a license to sale with already having a felony conviction. 

Nearly 300 pounds is just crazy. Maybe he is sort of a mule who drives someone’s drugs from A to B because no way does he have the kind of money to purchase that much for resale. 

[LemonSoda]

2 hours ago, MakingBacon said:

I always wondered if Jorge actually had a license to sell MJ here. I thought it was odd when he was going to make that sale in a parking lot. Plus,   I wonder if he could even get a license to sale with already having a felony conviction. 

This is something I've been curious about! 

[jumper sage]

On 2/15/2018 at 9:42 PM, MakingBacon said:

I thought someone posted somewhere they weren’t together anymore and she had a new man.

I always wondered if Jorge actually had a license to sell MJ here. I thought it was odd when he was going to make that sale in a parking lot. Plus,   I wonder if he could even get a license to sale with already having a felony conviction. 

Nearly 300 pounds is just crazy. Maybe he is sort of a mule who drives someone’s drugs from A to B because no way does he have the kind of money to purchase that much for resale. 

From what I understood he could not get a license since he already had a conviction.  Even if he did, you still can't transport from one state to another.  There are still federal laws on the books but most presidents looked the other way and let states have their rights.  Between state sales is where the real trouble comes in.

When I was in college I dated an older man who had a son about 18 years old.  While on a date he had to bail his son out of jail.  I waited in the car.  When we pulled away, he turned and looked at his son and said, "Son, smarten up, you do not do 70 in a 55 while you are transporting illegal pot and have a weapon in the car".  The he proceeded to flick him in the head.  Reading that Jorge got caught for some infraction made me think of this.  Some people are too stupid to try to run an illegal enterprise.

On 2/15/2018 at 10:56 AM, suzeecat said:

I wouldn't put it past Anfisa alerting the authorities and giving them the head's up on Jorge's business activities. 

Me neither!

[Mothra]

I'm looking for any discussion of the Anfisa/Jorge marathon from the other night.  Is everyone burned out on these two?  My only takeaway is that Anfisa's lips are really hemorrhoids.

[IvySpice]

Yes, burned out. I fast forwarded through 90% of it.

Who wants to marry a poor guy, Anfisa? Maybe somebody who made her own money and was looking for love and emotional support and companionship and sexual chemistry and commitment and loyalty, and found it all with a guy who makes less? Hypothetically.

[cheewhiz]

I spent 3 hours, mostly fast forwarding through the update/look back show.

1) Gotta agree with Mothra, those lips are horrifying

2) Jorge is a liar who lies

3) Anfisa was always straight up with him about what she wants, he promised her the world, and can give her nothing he promised.  Don't get me wrong, I think she is a golddigger but not a liar.  He lied about everything, so her expecting certain things when she arrived shouldn't have been such a shock to him. He told her he was a millionaire and presented himself as such. With her having no frame of reference how would she know he is not being straight with her. 

I think Anfisa is not a nice person but I feel for her being told her life would be one way and now it's the complete opposite.  I would suggest she go back to Russia and try her luck again. Maybe she can catch a rich one on the next go around.

I also cannot wait for this shit show to start back up.  In Canada it starts on the 20th of May, and I will be front and center  LOL 

[IvySpice]

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I think she is a golddigger but not a liar.  

A golddigger and an abuser, physically and emotionally. She hit Jorge with a closed fist. On camera. I agree that she doesn't lie about it. I will not be up at night worried about Jorge, because he's a lying sack of shit, but he is also being abused.

[Mothra]

Yes, you have to give it to Anfisa that she was upfront from day one about what she expected from Jorge because that's what he had promised her.  She is not a good person, she is not beautiful, it's not coincidence that she has only one friend in the US.  And I have to feel bad for her that she's spent virtually every minute since she got here on her own, in a shitty little apartment, with nothing to do.  The problem there is that she apparently thinks having all the things Jorge promised her would make her happy.  Face it, Anfisa, even if he rented that big mansion for you and bought you the $10,000 handbag and the $100,000 diamond, you'd still be all alone and bored.  Sure, you would have photos to send back to Russia to show off to your friends there, but your daily life would not change.  The things that might make you happy are things you could do right now--like finding something to interest you and going to classes to learn about it, or getting a job that takes you out of the house for a portion of the day, or joining a church and making friends there, or even seeking out other Russian immigrants to spend time with.  Conspicuous consumption, if she's ever enabled to do that, is going to be a big letdown, I'm afraid.  Online porn is fine with me, but it's not going to change your life, and people will shun you when they find out that's what you do.

I think she ought to return to Russia and face humiliation or woman up and try to make a life with her creepy slub of a husband.  Neither is an appealing prospect, but it seems to me that that's the position she's put herself in.  If I were she, I'd go back to Russia and get a job.

[cheewhiz]

1 hour ago, IvySpice said:

A golddigger and an abuser, physically and emotionally. She hit Jorge with a closed fist. On camera. I agree that she doesn't lie about it. I will not be up at night worried about Jorge, because he's a lying sack of shit, but he is also being abused.

 

44 minutes ago, Mothra said:

think she ought to return to Russia and face humiliation or woman up and try to make a life with her creepy slub of a husband.  Neither is an appealing prospect, but it seems to me that that's the position she's put herself in.  If I were she, I'd go back to Russia and get a job.

100% agree. 

[the-grey-lady]

Oh, Anfisa...I missed your dead-eyed stare, propensity toward physical violence, and charmless face o' plastic.

No, wait. I didn't miss that at all.

These two are loathsome. Jorge should feel lucky that he didn't end up with some controlling American "feminist."

[monagatuna]

Anyone else think it was fishy that the jeweler was hauling out "$300,000 diamonds" in a store with drop ceilings, plain white walls, and bars on the windows?

I bought my intended a $3,000 moissonite ring from a shop that was 100x more beautiful than that bargain-bin strip mall store.

[Mothra]

I wonder what Jorge thought would happen when Anfisa got to the US?  They'd spent enough time together by then for him to know what she expected, and he must have known that he would not be able to provide it.  Did he think she would go all understanding and be happy with a cubic zirconia?  I hadn't realized that he'd "traveled the world" with her, and now I have less sympathy for him than ever. 

We know that she is physically abusive to him.  I'm sure that alone would be enough to void her visa, but he's such a worm--I've never seen a man on so much dick-drive--that I'm sure he will never give her the heave-ho.  I wonder if it's full sex, vaginal or anal, or oral alone that changes his mind when he strides into their apartment muttering that he's going to send her back to Russia.  With her hemorrhoidal lips, I bet oral and anal are hard to tell apart.

I think she's pretty in a vinyl-head doll way, but remember:  they're in LA, where gorgeous women with gorgeous bodies are the norm.  Squat little troll-like women are not the ideal of beauty in LA that they might be in the Kremlin.

[Dahlia]

They had a deal....an arrangement and if he was expecting her to show up the sexy package he ordered and instead got Say an extra 90 plus pounds deflated boobs and lips - chopped off hair no makeup and wearing sweats he’d be leaning towards some serious indignation about her bait and switch - so he has no place being all put out offended and judgey that she reacted badly to his bait and switch scam.  I’d be as scared hurt and frustrated as she. Not sure how I’d express all that in a foreign language but a punch or two is more than likely and I’m not one bit a violent person 

[CoachWristletJen]

So there's a new video online where the producers are interviewing Jorge and Anfisa, and they mention Jorge going to the lawyers with Lourdes. And, it's the first time Anfisa has heard of it. She tries to get off the couch and she struggles because Jorge is grabbing at her with his grabby hands, and she has to grapple with him and throw off his big-assed arms. For the record, IT WAS COMPLETELY DISRESPECTFUL FOR HIM NOT TO LET HER GET UP AND GET AWAY FROM HIM WHEN SHE WANTED TO GET AWAY FROM HIM. And, "disrespectful" is a mild choice of words on my part. Seriously, we've seen this guy to be grabby and grope-y and violating her space so many times, I want to smack him for just that, but enough of that for now.

Anfisa asks him did you go to the lawyer.  Uh, they've got it on tape, Jorge with a J. And, Jorge with a J, being a lying liar, says no. Like a mom, she reminds him that it will be so much worse for him if he lies now. And, like a person with zero character that he is, he insists that it won't be worse because he really and truly didn't go to the divorce lawyer with his sister. Good grief, Jorge, don't you want your word to mean anything at all?

I can't wait to see Anfisa leave this walking disaster in her rearview mirror!

[Landlord]

3 hours ago, CoachWristletJen said:

So there's a new video online where the producers are interviewing Jorge and Anfisa,

Youtube? or elsewhere? Link?

[CoachWristletJen]

5 hours ago, Landlord said:

Youtube? or elsewhere? Link?

[spankydoll]

9 hours ago, CoachWristletJen said:

He's a lying sack of shit. He is showing the world on national television that his word means nothing and that he is an idiot. I wonder how proud Lourdes is feeling now?

Edited June 16, 2018 by spankydoll

[CoachWristletJen]

I'm watching the 30-minute preview that TLC aired last night. Jorge is having dinner with Ramone and Anfisa. 

I'm not sure what either one of them sees in Jorge! 

All Ramone knows of Anfisa is Jorge's trash talk so he says that when she showed up it was like "Cruella De Vil" had walked in. 

I like Ramone. He's straightforward and kinda charming in his own way. I'm guessing a lot of people in California like Jorge because he's The Weed Man.  

Anfisa with no fillers and natural makeup looks so pretty...

Edited June 16, 2018 by CoachWristletJen

[Real Eyes]

I read somewhere that Jorge was arrested in Arizona for possession and trafficking of pot. 

 

On his lying-I don’t think he is a sociopath. I think he is immature and a coward. For him, it’s a way to avoid both conflict and responsibility. 

I also know someone who saw Jorge IRL. Was told he needs to lose weight, but is otherwise quite handsome in person, far more so than on television. 

[spankydoll]

It was a LOT of pot and he will most likely do time. He is a moron. 

[gingerella]

2 hours ago, spankydoll said:

It was a LOT of pot and he will most likely do time. He is a moron. 

Well, that's one way for Anfisa to get away from him. She could file for divorce claiming she didn't sign up to be the wife of a drug dealer convict. Or is this just wishful thinking?

[silverspoons]

4 hours ago, gingerella said:

Well, that's one way for Anfisa to get away from him. She could file for divorce claiming she didn't sign up to be the wife of a drug dealer convict. Or is this just wishful thinking?

I think Anifsa would be okay if she filed for a divorce because they have been married more then 2 years and she has established herself by going to college, working etc. It is an added bonus that Jorge has criminal charges and that Anifsa went to marriage counseling (Ive gone back and forth if she really wanted to save the marriage or if the counseling was just a way to prolong it and make her look better if she leaves). 

I'm not sure about CA divorce laws but I don;t think she needs to prove fraud that Jorge misrepresented himself as wealthy businessman. I also think Jorge would not fight a divorce. He is all talk and deep down he is more insecure then some legit blackmailer. 

[Major Bigtime]

Their entire courtship and marriage is on film. She can show him lying to her about his financial situation. Or will he claim it’s all made up and Sharp Entertainment made him say stuff?

[magemaud]

4 hours ago, Major Bigtime said:

 

Their entire courtship and marriage is on film. She can show him lying to her about his financial situation. Or will he claim it’s all made up and Sharp Entertainment made him say stuff?

 

Jorge, “Um...wha? I never said no stuff!”

[gingerella]

It was hard for me to get past the fact that their marriage counselor looked like the twin brother of that dude on TV (I cant remember his name), but nevertheless, I was a bit shocked that he seemed worried about Anfisa's safety yet never said anything about getting her out of her living situation. She clearly said she was afraid to leave Jorge....hello? RED FLAGS! Shouldn't he have delved deeper into that?

[Former Nun]

3 minutes ago, gingerella said:

I was a bit shocked that he seemed worried about Anfisa's safety yet never said anything about getting her out of her living situation.

...and he had apparently never seen past episodes/seasons where Anfisa was BEATING Jorge.    Anyone concerned about HIS safety?

[gonecrackers]

Fake "counseling" session to garner more sympathy for Anfisa. I don't feel for either of them as they both have what they want. He got his plastic blow up doll & she's got her TV "fame". It's all good in their made for teevee little world.

[silverspoons]

On 6/26/2018 at 11:20 AM, gingerella said:

It was hard for me to get past the fact that their marriage counselor looked like the twin brother of that dude on TV (I cant remember his name), but nevertheless, I was a bit shocked that he seemed worried about Anfisa's safety yet never said anything about getting her out of her living situation. She clearly said she was afraid to leave Jorge....hello? RED FLAGS! Shouldn't he have delved deeper into that?

 

On 6/26/2018 at 11:24 AM, Former Nun said:

...and he had apparently never seen past episodes/seasons where Anfisa was BEATING Jorge.    Anyone concerned about HIS safety?

When I first saw Anfisa and Jorge, I was so annoyed by her behavior. I was unhappy when TLC invited them back, did I really want to see more smashed cell phones and cars scratched? 

Obviously there is more to their story. I certainly don't justify her hitting him and breaking his stuff, but she was 18 when they meet. The first season she was 19. Now we know Anfisa's dad was killed when she was 9 and she did not have a mother in her life. She was looking for security and Jorge lied. She was angry and scared and what role model of a relationship did she have? Compared to Nicole at 24 waiting for Azan calls and working part time at Starbucks, Anfisa at 21 now is going to college and found a way (whether it is social media stuff or webcam ) to support herself and seems to have grown up a little in her behavior. 

Even if the counseling was set up by TLC, I believe the counselor is a LMFT and should give her at least a resource number if she feels threatened. Maybe that happened off camera? TLC has a way with the edit. 

 

In the end, Jorge wants a hot sexy wife and Anfisa wants the dream life. I think she sees that Jorge is not going to give that to her and she has to find it another way. Hopefully she makes it through school even if just to become educated eye candy. Jorge, I'm not sure what he can do to help himself?

Edited July 1, 2018 by silverspoons

[iwasish]

2 hours ago, silverspoons said:

 

When I first saw Anfisa and Jorge, I was so annoyed by her behavior. I was unhappy when TLC invited them back, did I really want to see more smashed cell phones and cars scratched? 

Obviously there is more to their story. I certainly don't justify her hitting him and breaking his stuff, but she was 18 when they meet. The first season she was 19. Now we know Anfisa's dad was killed when she was 9 and she did not have a mother in her life. She was looking for security and Jorge lied. She was angry and scared and what role model of a relationship did she have? Compared to Nicole at 24 waiting for Azan calls and working part time at Starbucks, Anfisa at 21 now is going to college and found a way (whether it is social media stuff or webcam ) to support herself and seems to have grown up a little in her behavior. 

Even if the counseling was set up by TLC, I believe the counselor is a LMFT and should give her at least a resource number if she feels threatened. Maybe that happened off camera? TLC has a way with the edit. 

 

In the end, Jorge was a hot sexy wife and Anfisa wants the dream life. I think she sees that Jorge is not going to give that to her and she has to find it another way. Hopefully she makes it through school even if just to become educated eye candy. Jorge, I'm not sure what he can do to help himself?

I find it hard to believe that Anfisa is 21/22... 25 is a stretch also. I do give her props for taking advantage of education and at least attempting to better herself, unlike Annie and Nicole who are just treading water while waiting for a man to provide what they should be doing for themselves.

[silverspoons]

52 minutes ago, iwasish said:

I find it hard to believe that Anfisa is 21/22... 25 is a stretch also. I do give her props for taking advantage of education and at least attempting to better herself, unlike Annie and Nicole who are just treading water while waiting for a man to provide what they should be doing for themselves.

I think her behavior has shown her to be from 19-21/22 as the show has filmed but I agree her look is older. I was shocked that she got botox at 20! I guess her older look is all the procedures she has had done. It seems like from her Gucci tastes she is very influenced by social media. Her 70 year old granny that raised her I'm sure is not encouraging botox at 20! My high school age daughter has never had a pimple and every time she thinks about starting to wear a lot of makeup I'm like why, you are young and have beautiful skin, just put on some mascara and lip gloss. I say wait till you are older and have to cut bangs to cover forehead wrinkles and wear foundation to cover aging skin. I would love to see pics of Anfsia as a teen before the botox, lip injections and whatever else she has had done. 

[ArcticWolfRS]

Am I one of the few who actually does think she looks the age she claims? Most of the teens I run into now are emulating that look. A teen with plastic surgery and/or caked on makeup just looks like that - look at the Jenners, the Hadids, the Curious Case of Ali Lohan, or that one poor girl whose mom married her off to the X-files creep. All of them have/had that same "older/young" plastic-y look around that age. And I've been amazed when I've seen some people IRL after the caked on makeup is removed, how much younger they look, and how different their features present. It's, unfortunately, just another unhealthy standard of beauty for teen girls now. Botox, plastic surgery, and the entire Sephora store.

[Polliwollidoodle]

Yup add me to the list of those who could not tolerate Anfisa  way back. Now when I see her I am honestly very impressed with how intelligent (and yes, perhaps conniving and manipulative but STILL, Quite Intelligent) and articulate she is. Given that English is not her native language and she was not educated here, she is so much more fluent and able to express herself than is Jorge. I get that ingles may not be his native tongue but I do believe he went through school here. He can barely express a  thought. And when he does, it's like a 4 year old level.

[gingerella]

On 6/26/2018 at 11:05 AM, silverspoons said:

When I first saw Anfisa and Jorge, I was so annoyed by her behavior. I was unhappy when TLC invited them back, did I really want to see more smashed cell phones and cars scratched? 

Obviously there is more to their story. I certainly don't justify her hitting him and breaking his stuff, but she was 18 when they meet. The first season she was 19. Now we know Anfisa's dad was killed when she was 9 and she did not have a mother in her life. She was looking for security and Jorge lied. She was angry and scared and what role model of a relationship did she have? Compared to Nicole at 24 waiting for Azan calls and working part time at Starbucks, Anfisa at 21 now is going to college and found a way (whether it is social media stuff or webcam ) to support herself and seems to have grown up a little in her behavior. 

I felt/feel the same way about Anfisa. Her behavior last season was horrid, but the more we see if Jorge, the more I start feeling for her. What I can say about Jorge is he is a waste of carbon, literally. He as no redeeming characteristics or qualities about him. He's just a lying, vacuous sack of shit who wanted a hot wife and had to buy one from Russia. Serves him right.

Anfisa is another story. I think most women who sign up to be bought as mail order brides are probably living a life that I would never want for myself either, nor would I even begin to understand. I dont believe any woman, no matter her age, wakes up one day and says, "I cant wait to be bought by some random guy in another country". More likely is that there is a level of desperation we can never know as we all pass judgement sitting in our cushy, comfortable living rooms with our paid for cable with a million channels and are never interrupted internet connections. So I think Anfisa has some really dark issues from childhood or whatever and I can forgive her the crazy from last season because she has actually shown growth this season, and I cannot believe I'm even typing this, but it's true. Whether it's all an act or it's real, I think her tears are real and I think what she told the counselor was real as well. I think if it's true that she's going to school, then I can foresee a future for her in the USA, where she makes her own way. Maybe she started out wanting a sugar daddy, but since that's gone so badly awry, I think at this point, its highly likely that she would be fine working and making a living and buying her own designer shit. I hope she finds a career that suits her, and that she is able to support herself here, and that she can find a partner whom she doesn't have to rely on for every little thing. She's a strong young woman, she can do it on her own if she has to. Fuck Jorge.

[Baltimore Betty]

Why hasn't Anfisa gone to where the wealthy play, sat on a bar stool and tried to lure someone, anyone that has a few coins in their pockets. Surely she would meet someone better than Jorge.

Anfisa always says she loves Jorge but my question is why?  It has be tumultuous since the start, (online and in person knock down drag out fights), she has milked him for designer bags, trips and what not, treated him like a mark and he has lied to her constantly, let his sister badmouth her and refuses to get help with his issues.  He is an idiot but she never respected him.  Any relationship needs trust and respect before bumping uglies and declaring everlasting love.  Jorge loved the way she looked when he saw her in her videos and she loved the idea of Jorge as a millionaire.  I am not seeing love from either one of them, never have, how do they think their marriage will play out?

That therapist should give them the means to call it quits with the marriage.

[LilaFowler]

For me the difference in personality is likely due to the fact that Anfisa has her green card, her license and ultimately, her freedom. She was completely dependent on Jorge last season, stuck sitting in that ratty hotel room all day, not having anything to eat or anyplace to escape Jorge's lies or wandering hands. She's in control of her life now. Look at Bahtman's wife Annie. She's in the same place Anfisa was last season: penniless and dependent on a loser and she's lashing out and behaving inappropriately.

[silverspoons]

I wonder what in Jorge's upbringing got him so hooked on the idea that money is everything. Did he grow up poor? There has to be something that makes him think that money buy happiness. Did his dad give his mom a gift everytime they have a fight and then they were happy? 

While not brought up on the show, I feel like Jorge and Anfisa value education differently. While we don;t know what Anfisa's high school education was like, she obviously learned English very well and is able to do well at a variety of American college class including learning Spanish to communicate with Jorge's family. Has Jorge learned a word of Russian?  I have seen nothing to indicate Jorge values education. He just wants to make a fast easy buck. I almost got the feeling that Anfisa would be okay if Jorge admitted his business isn't going great and got his butt into college with her. I think she would be okay with apartment living for the next 5 years until careers could be established. She is only 21/22. Jorge I don't think would ever agree to this. 

I wonder if the Jorge's legal issues will be the end. They would be a good reason on paper for her to file for divorce. I also have a feeling Jorge is telling her the charges will be dropped or it is no big deal , when he knows the charges are bad.

[Kareem]

I think he feels money would solve everything maybe not so much because of his upbringing but because not buying her the $10,000 purse last season sent her into orbit, things like that.  She picked out an expensive home she wanted to rent and complained about the apartment after nagging him to death to get one. He's out of her league and can only buy her. The new and improved Anfisa seems to have let up on all that, maybe because she admitted to thinking about divorcing him for the past year, but she made her point.  He seems to believe his blowup doll will be happy as long as he keeps buying her stuff.  

She made a video with Jorge after the AZ arrest saying basically that they were still together and that it was no big deal.  Hoping that she sees him for the buffoon that he really is and just moves on.  I neither like nor admire her, and I find it hard to believe she really wants things to work out with him but she can do better.  

Edited July 4, 2018 by Kareem
frightening grammar