Season 7 Reunion Part 2

[ReadMeLattice]

3 hours ago, CofCinci said:

Leah and Corey attended a medical conference where Ali's rare condition was discussed -- yet they still ignore the top specialist's recommendations. Keep praying it away.  

Any sleuths find materials from the conference case presentation?

Those din durn doctors and their book learnin'

[BXD]

Most interesting part of this reunion was when Jenelle said she wished her mom treated her the way she treats Jace. She is jealous of her own son.

[VioletNevermind]

11 minutes ago, BXD said:

Most interesting part of this reunion was when Jenelle said she wished her mom treated her the way she treats Jace. She is jealous of her own son.

Between that and her crushed dreams of a utopian childhood spent playing Yahtzee with her mom, Jenelle is one messed up girl.  Time to grow the hell up and focus on playing Yahtzee with her own present-day children.  (I have zero patience for grown adults who spend most of their time whining and crying about how mean their mommies and daddies were 100 years ago.  People like this usually have no clue just how bad things could have been- and are for some unlucky children.)

Edited March 28, 2017 by SuzyLee

[GreatKazu]

I'm going to be like Oprah today and just give away "likes". You get a like, and you get a like, and you get a like!

I am with @Christina about Leah. She may have been sober, but there was something off about her. Is she on meds? Not sure. She was barely wearing make-up. It makes me wonder if she was late to getting to the set and the crew didn't have time to get her dolled up. She is still a POS mother especially when the only time she puts Ali in her motorized chair is when she drives to the doctor's office and on plane trips. No compliments for her from me.

Edited March 28, 2017 by GreatKazu

[Ljohnson1987]

Jenelle... You say that Nathan is putting up a front on TV, and only wants to see Kai for the sake of TV. You're doing the same thing with Jace. I wonder how active Jenelle would be when it came to getting custody of Jace, if the MTV cameras weren't there.  Also, how come she can cry, but tears never come out? Nathan calling her out on the fake tears was 100% true. I don't know if I am Team Jenelle, or Team Nathan. I am Team Jace, Kai, Ensley, Maryssa, and any other kids that are affected because of the stupidity of Jenelle, and whatever person she's with at the moment. Also, my heart always breaks for Babs.  It's obvious how much she loves Jace. Jenelle never shows any love for him, or cries tears for him. 

 

Leah... How does it feel having to deal with two ex-husbands? She's good with Corey, and that's great. I wonder if she still wants to get back together with Jeremy. Also, I doubt that Leah will finish school. She'll find an excuse to quit.

 

Why are we celebrating that this mess has lasted for 100 episodes? 

[BitterApple]

5 hours ago, DudeLeaveMeAlone said:

JENELLE - Show us the text messages between you and Jace! You had your phone for your Nathan argument. Show us proof Jace sent those texts he wants to live with you. Until then, I won't believe it. And if you do show us them, I wholeheartedly believe you manufactured them.

Right? I know kids are tech savvy these days, but is Jace really capable of writing long, drawn out messages telling his "mother" he wants to live with her? Receipts or it didn't happen, Jenelle.

Regarding Nathan, he's a total d-bag, but I don't believe Jenelle when she says he doesn't spend time with Kaiser. That little boy's face lights up like fireworks when he sees his dad. And so what if he spends the day at his grandmother's, that's hardly a crime. Jenelle sure had no problem dumping the kid off on Nathan's mom when she couldn't deal with him.

Edited March 28, 2017 by BitterApple

[ReadMeLattice]

He doesn't spend time with his other kid. I feel bad for her. He seems like the type who would spoil a boy and not a girl, like Jenelle will with Ensley (obviously vice versa). Narcissists are like that with "mini mes."

[Abmis]

8 hours ago, hoosiermom said:

Heck. I thought Janelle had her legs pulled up with her knees under her chin until I realized those were her boobs! Yikers!

I thought the same thing.  It looked like she was sitting like a little kid with her knees up under her shirt. 

The whole thing with Barb and Jenelle turned my brain to mush.  Did Jenelle really mention UBT not being able to see his son due to a no contact order without Drew commenting on it or questioning it?  Not a fan, but Dr Phil would have been all over that. Drew has no idea what is really going on with these people.  Since we all know it,  I think any one of us could do a better job on the reunion show than Drew.  I refuse to call him doctor. 

Nathan and UBT handling Kaiser's visitation schedule is not healthy.  Maybe a better way to do it would be to have Nathan's mom and Jenelle handle it. UBT is nothing to Kaiser, and has no right to be involved in decisions that affect his life. Jenelle sucks, but she's the mom and she ought to handle it.  That's what moms do.  Jenelle can lose me with whining about Nathan's mom having Kaiser so much.  Isn't she raising Nathan's daughter from a previous relationship?  If that's the case, it's nice that Kaiser's spending time with his half sibling.  Jenelle ought to understand that since she complains that Jace and Kaiser don't see each other enough except since she's Jenelle she doesn't get it.

My heart aches for Barb and Jace.

[BitterApple]

8 minutes ago, Lm2162 said:

He doesn't spend time with his other kid. I feel bad for her. He seems like the type who would spoil a boy and not a girl, like Jenelle will with Ensley (obviously vice versa). Narcissists are like that with "mini mes."

I think a a few of the guys on this show are like that. I've always felt that Adam and Jeremy would be totally different with a son than with the daughters they apparently have little use for. Even though Jeremy is better than Adam, he strikes me as the type who would've fought for joint custody of a boy, rather than just seeing the kid whenever he happened to be in town.

[GreatKazu]

15 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

Right? I know kids are tech savvy these days, but is Jace really capable of writing long, drawn out messages telling his "mother" he wants to live with her? Receipts or it didn't happen, Jenelle.

Regarding Nathan, he's a total d-bag, but I don't believe Jenelle when she says he doesn't spend time with Kaiser. That little boy's face lights up like fireworks when he sees his dad. And so what if he spends the day at his grandmother's, that's hardly a crime. Jenelle sure had no problem doing the kid off on Nathan's mom when she couldn't deal with him.

I tend to believe Nipples as opposed to Jenelle who I don't believe at all except when she said on the Unseen Moments how Barb was very strict with her growing up. I so wish someone would call out Jenelle on having called Kaiser's grandparents and leaving him in their care for five days at a time when she and Nipples split.

I sure believed Nathan when he said pot was being smoked in Jenelle's home. Not sure what the laws are in her area, but going by Jenelle's reaction and her being so defensive, I will guess it is not only true but Jenelle seems to think it is something that should not be mentioned. Is she trying to give the impression she is clean, not even touching weed? GTFOH

Edited March 28, 2017 by GreatKazu

[lovesnark]

Another thing that proves useless Drew doesn't watch these losers. When Barb was telling him about Jenelle putting UBT's name on the property and house, he pipes up and claims they're married, so it's  no big deal. Then, he backtracks and says since they're planning on getting married someday, it's fine and dandy. Fucking moron. And, he just sat there and let Jenelle take over with fake crying and yelling every time Barb tried to speak. He's as useless as tits on a boar.

I want to send Barb an outline she can refer to when someone interviews her about why Jace should stay with her.

1. Jenelle has had 7 years to get her shit together. Not using heroin doesn't mean she's stable. She hasn't demonstrated any growth in maturity and still causes drama over nothing.

2. Jenelle has a history of meeting a guy, moving him in, encouraging him to trash Barb and getting pregnant ASAP. Bringing more children into the mix leaves her less time to give Jace what he needs and proves she's irresponsible and not making rational decisions. Historically, these relationships end fairly quickly and she's left with another child to raise without the necessary coping skills.  Because of her lack of maturity, she uses the child as a pawn for revenge on the father and refuses to let him be a parent to the child. Then, whines about how stressed she is doing it all by herself. UBT has a long history of violence against people and property. Not being incarcerated since he started sponging off Jenelle doesn't mean he's become a beacon of humanity.

3. Jenelle doesn't have a job tying her to an area. She could have bought a house in the same school district Jace is enrolled in. Instead, she bought property 45 minutes away.  He's doing well in school, is involved in scouts and other activities and has friends from his school and neighborhood. Uprooting him from the security of his environment will cause stress and anxiety detrimental to his well being. If she was truly concerned about Jace's well being, she would live close by, go to his parent/teacher conferences, his scout meetings and activities, doctor's appointments and take some of the daily stress off of Barb by fixing his lunch, taking him to school and picking him up.

4. Jenelle has no marketable skills and no way to support a home and family without MTV. The inevitable loss of income will lead to her scrambling to provide the basic necessities for her ever growing brood and probably losing the home to foreclosure when she can't make the payments. Jace will be uprooted again and will suffer because of it.

5. Barb is the only stability Jace has ever known. He loves her and knows she loves him. Ripping him out of the only home he's ever known will cause damage that cannot be repaired. 

[kira28]

18 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

Right? I know kids are tech savvy these days, but is Jace really capable of writing long, drawn out messages telling his "mother" he wants to live with her? Receipts or it didn't happen, Jenelle.

Regarding Nathan, he's a total d-bag, but I don't believe Jenelle when she says he doesn't spend time with Kaiser. That little boy's face lights up like fireworks when he sees his dad. And so what if he spends the day at his grandmother's, that's hardly a crime. Jenelle sure had no problem doing the kid off on Nathan's mom when she couldn't deal with him.

I don't believe Jace ever texts Janelle. Lies lies lies. He's not even excited about visiting Janelle with the dirt bike video games and junk food to tempt him. I agree that Nathan must spend time with Kaiser because he does light up when he sees Nathan. And Janelle is totally a hypocrite! Jace was dumped off with his grandmother seven years ago and she raises him.. So what if Kaiser spends a few days with his grandma. In Janelles care Kaiser spends more time in daycare, with david's mom and various other people than with Janelle. 

[Ljohnson1987]

Dave is such a pussy. 

[GreatKazu]

Jenelle was working overtime as she declared UBT is not at fault for anything. Nothing. It is all her fault. Dave has no part in anything. If he was accused of something, Jenelle jumped up and was quick to defend his honor. She had to or else suffer the consequences. Classic DV victim stance.  I am certain Jenelle paid the price after the show for the mention of the dick pic.

[ReadMeLattice]

14 minutes ago, Ljohnson1987 said:

Dave is such a pussy. 

You said it!

[Tara Ariano]

In case you missed it, here's the Previously.TV post on the episode!

Jenelle And Barb Go For Round 1,178 On Teen Mom 2

Not pictured: Dave, who is offstage blowing up his girlfriend's phone. And probably also a bank.

[lovesnark]

25 minutes ago, GreatKazu said:

Jenelle was working overtime as she declared UBT is not at fault for anything. Nothing. It is all her fault. Dave has no part in anything. If he was accused of something, Jenelle jumped up and was quick to defend his honor. She had to or else suffer the consequences. Classic DV victim stance.  I am certain Jenelle paid the price after the show for the mention of the dick pic.

She sure was, wasn't she? She could make a phone call to some random dude to supposedly prove her innocence.  But, she couldn't show us the daily texts from Jace saying how much he loves her and wants to live with her. I was actually surprised that MTV let them bring their phones onto the set with them and put up with them making calls and reading texts. Leave your damn phones backstage!

Edited March 28, 2017 by lovesnark

[BitterApple]

Agree 100%, lovesnark. IIRC, there was a period of time where Jace was doing poorly in terms of both academics and behavior. Barb takes him to a specialist, has him diagnosed and placed on medication. So now that Jace is stable and thriving, Jenelle decides this is the perfect time to rip him away from his school, activities and friends, and dump him in a swamp in the middle of nowhere. If it's completely selfish and unfair, then it's Jenelle Logic 101.

[MaggieG]

38 minutes ago, Abmis said:

I thought the same thing.  It looked like she was sitting like a little kid with her knees up under her shirt. 

The whole thing with Barb and Jenelle turned my brain to mush.  Did Jenelle really mention UBT not being able to see his son due to a no contact order without Drew commenting on it or questioning it?  Not a fan, but Dr Phil would have been all over that. Drew has no idea what is really going on with these people.  Since we all know it,  I think any one of us could do a better job on the reunion show than Drew.  I refuse to call him doctor. 

Nathan and UBT handling Kaiser's visitation schedule is not healthy.  Maybe a better way to do it would be to have Nathan's mom and Jenelle handle it. UBT is nothing to Kaiser, and has no right to be involved in decisions that affect his life. Jenelle sucks, but she's the mom and she ought to handle it.  That's what moms do.  Jenelle can lose me with whining about Nathan's mom having Kaiser so much.  Isn't she raising Nathan's daughter from a previous relationship?  If that's the case, it's nice that Kaiser's spending time with his half sibling.  Jenelle ought to understand that since she complains that Jace and Kaiser don't see each other enough except since she's Jenelle she doesn't get it.

My heart aches for Barb and Jace.

This! I'm surprised even Nathan didn't say anything about it, he knows David's history. I hate David with a passion.

Also, this is probably the least rudest thing Jenelle has ever done but I hate when I am talking to someone and they are on their phone and I have no idea if they are paying attention. A little OT but that happened to me in a job interview. The guy asked me where I see myself in 5 years, I gave what I thought was a great answer, he was looking at his phone the whole time. Just rude. At one point Drew was going on and on about something about Kaiser and Nathan and Jenelle was on her phone, looking down, not paying any attention. But this is Jenelle, so we shouldn't be surprised.

All the BS with David texting her to "get off stage, you're too upset" was creepy and controlling.

[lovesnark]

6 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

Agree 100%, lovesnark. IIRC, there was a period of time where Jace was doing poorly in terms of both academics and behavior. Barb takes him to a specialist, has him diagnosed and placed on medication. So now that Jace is stable and thriving, Jenelle decides this is the perfect time to rip him away from his school, activities and friends, and dump him in a swamp in the middle of nowhere. If it's completely selfish and unfair, then it's Jenelle Logic 101.

How much you want to bet Jenelle doesn't even know the name of Jace's specialist or what medication he's taking, how often, etc? Also, I'd put money on UBT refusing to continue Jace's meds and specialist visits because 'ADD ain't real and the medicine will make you a sissy'

[Miss Chevious]

Next to Jenelle and all her drama, Leah's segment on the Reunion Show seemed pretty tame. Partly because Leah was definitely under the influence of some kind of drug, probably some kind of downer She seemed very mellowed out, sitting there just smiling and nodding while Drew was blathering on. She seemed unanimated to me, almost too laid back. And I don't think for one minute that she's off the pillses for good. 

Plus I sure as heck didn't believe her when she said she wasn't dating anyone. She's the type that's always got to have a man somewhere. She's probably smart enough to not have one around when Addy's home. That bratty kid would rat her out for sure, probably at the top of her lungs.

Edited March 28, 2017 by Miss Chevious
bad speller today

[WhosThatGirl]

Seriously did Dr. Panda DO ANYTHING on this reunion? I mean, since the girl who got the most time on the reunion was Janelle and yes in counting both parts, I would think he did something. Nope. He really just sat and let Janelle scream at people and make word salad about everything. Drew did nothing. How does he have a job doing this? Same with Nessa who hosts all the specials and treats this like it's a sleepover party full of good times.

[FlowerofCarnage]

Jenelle complete with fake tears recounting how David is do upset at not being able to see his son knowing damn well the reason why! 

Sweet baby Jesus, this idiot put David's name on the property.

 

Show us the text of Jace saying he wants to live with you, Jenelle or it didn't happen.

[ReadMeLattice]

6 minutes ago, WhosThatGirl said:

Seriously did Dr. Panda DO ANYTHING on this reunion? I mean, since the girl who got the most time on the reunion was Janelle and yes in counting both parts, I would think he did something. Nope. He really just sat and let Janelle scream at people and make word salad about everything. Drew did nothing. How does he have a job doing this? Same with Nessa who hosts all the specials and treats this like it's a sleepover party full of good times.

Can someone remind me why we call him Panda? 

[MissMel]

And Jenelle said Jace texted that to her while he was back in the green room.  So yeah, that would be one of the last texts right?  Wouldn't even have to search for it.  Her phone was right there.  It would been nothing to pull it up and show it.  But she didn't.  

From the Ptv recap:

"Despite Drew begging for Dave to come out onstage, Mister Future Criminal Minds Unsub would rather text Jenelle and glare creepily from the wings. Way to make Adam look cooperative and easygoing, bro." 

Haha, yep!

1 minute ago, Lm2162 said:

Can someone remind me why we call him Panda? 

Because he looks like a sad panda when he tries to be serious, understanding, and empathetic.  That scrunch up face and head tilt thing he does all the time.

[BitterApple]

16 minutes ago, Miss Chevious said:

 

Plus I sure as heck didn't believe her when she said she wasn't dating anyone. She's the type that's always got to have a man somewhere. She's probably smart enough to not have one around when Addy's home. That bratty kid would rat her out for sure, probably at the top of her lungs.

Now that Leah's looks are shot and she's got three kids plus two divorces on her resume, I wonder if her milkshake is no longer bringing all the boys to the yard. Leah's "I'm not dating" comment could've been her way of putting a positive spin on the fact that nobody in the holler is interested. It's like all those ridiculous self-discovery memes she posts on her Instagram. She has to work overtime to convince herself her life isn't a flaming pile of dog turds.

[CofCinci]

Where does Jenelle's segment fall in with the timeline of her walking off and not returning?  

Pretty much Jenelle left because David was being a jealous, threatening bitch?  Babs was freaked out about Jace going back to the hotel with them because she knew David was upset. 

[poeticlicensed]

Jace doesn't text Janelle, ever. Didn't Barb say at one point that the only access Jace has to a phone is hers? If she saw that kind of texting going on, I doubt she would not confront Janelle about it. And Janelle would never text jace through Barb's phone. Sorry, I don't buy it. 

I think that Janelle wants Jace because she can then use him as a weapon against Barb. Revenge for all the years that she thinks Barb kept him away from her. 

And why did Panda not comment or ask about Janelle always placing UBT in the middle? I realize that it's toxic between Janelle and Barb, but I have always thought it was best to not have your dick of the month inserting himself into your relationships. And silly me, I thought that unmarrieds shouldn't be mingling assets. So it was a bad idea to put UBT on the deed, because when the inevitably break up, she will have to pay him to get rid of him. 

I also LOL when Janelle said that she gave the mediator a list of what she wanted, and they didn't comply. Someone get that girl a dictionary because she obviously doesn't know what mediation is. 

[CofCinci]

1 minute ago, poeticlicensed said:

Jace doesn't text Janelle, ever. Didn't Barb say at one point that the only access Jace has to a phone is hers? If she saw that kind of texting going on, I doubt she would not confront Janelle about it. And Janelle would never text jace through Barb's phone. Sorry, I don't buy it. 

I think that Janelle wants Jace because she can then use him as a weapon against Barb. Revenge for all the years that she thinks Barb kept him away from her. 

And why did Panda not comment or ask about Janelle always placing UBT in the middle? I realize that it's toxic between Janelle and Barb, but I have always thought it was best to not have your dick of the month inserting himself into your relationships. And silly me, I thought that unmarrieds shouldn't be mingling assets. So it was a bad idea to put UBT on the deed, because when the inevitably break up, she will have to pay him to get rid of him. 

I also LOL when Janelle said that she gave the mediator a list of what she wanted, and they didn't comply. Someone get that girl a dictionary because she obviously doesn't know what mediation is. 

Dr. Drew doesn't watch the show.  He doesn't follow the gossip sites. He only knows what is on his index cards. From his POV given little information: David Eason is a fine man.

Don't you love how he brushed off Babs' concerns of financial exploitation because Janelle and David plan to marry?!!  Dude, have you seen the meme that shows all her engagement rings?!!

[leighroda]

1 hour ago, lovesnark said:

1 hour ago, lovesnark said:

How much you want to bet Jenelle doesn't even know the name of Jace's specialist or what medication he's taking, how often, etc? Also, I'd put money on UBT refusing to continue Jace's meds and specialist visits because 'ADD ain't real and the medicine will make you a sissy'

I am totally messing up my he quote boxes... sorry... but I agree Jenelle probably doesn't know the specialist, but I'm sure she knows exactly what medication Jace is on, in case it was something she could steal/take herself.

That is so annoying that they can't be away from their phones for the time they are being filmed, and nobody at MTV sees a problem with David texting Jenelle off stage to stop filming!? That doesn't seem a tad controlling?

Tbh, I don't think I'd even believe it if they showed the "texts from Jace" unless Barb or someone could vouch that he did in fact send them, it's too easy to photoshop a text, or all she has to do is change Davids (or anyone really) name in her phone and send the texts to herself under "Jace" I wouldn't put Jace in a position to have to defend himself and ask him.  

[poeticlicensed]

While I agree that UBT is a loser, and Nathan is a loser and every other guy Janelle has hooked up with is a loser, Barb has such tunnel vision about Janelle and her parade of losers. I think she truly believes that were it not for loser A or loser B, Janelle would be fine. Janelle picked the losers. It's not like they misrepresented themselves, they were all assholes from day 1. She wants an asshole because she is screwed up. I sometimes think that Barb's anger at Janelle masks her guilt about raising such a fuckwit. If she got past the anger, she would have to deal with that, and it's too painful. 

[Cherry Cola]

That was a waste of time! I kept giving Dave and Janelle the finger.  What a bunch of liars.  It was funny how Dave was getting so pissed off stage.  

Drew sucks!!! Why do they keep having him "check in?"  He sides with Janelle. So I just can't take him serious. 

[lovesnark]

16 minutes ago, poeticlicensed said:

While I agree that UBT is a loser, and Nathan is a loser and every other guy Janelle has hooked up with is a loser, Barb has such tunnel vision about Janelle and her parade of losers. I think she truly believes that were it not for loser A or loser B, Janelle would be fine. Janelle picked the losers. It's not like they misrepresented themselves, they were all assholes from day 1. She wants an asshole because she is screwed up. I sometimes think that Barb's anger at Janelle masks her guilt about raising such a fuckwit. If she got past the anger, she would have to deal with that, and it's too painful. 

My mom was the same way about my brothers. After they both died from liver disease in their early 40's, she finally started to come around and admit that their fuck ups belonged solely on their shoulders, not the women in their lives. Hopefully, Barb will someday see the light that Jenelle is the cause of Jenelle's fucked up way of life, realize she can't fix her and cut her loose. The losers she picks to take along for the ride are just there to feed her ego,  do her bidding and donate sperm. It's heartbreaking that innocent children are being forced to live in her fucked up world.

[ghoulina]

3 hours ago, Abmis said:

The whole thing with Barb and Jenelle turned my brain to mush.  Did Jenelle really mention UBT not being able to see his son due to a no contact order without Drew commenting on it or questioning it?  Not a fan, but Dr Phil would have been all over that. Drew has no idea what is really going on with these people

No shit. Jenelle tried to say that like it was a GOOD thing. She's all, "David doesn't even have contact with one of his kids, but he's fighting to change that!" Um....Nathan may be a loser, but at least he never beat the hell out of a pregnant woman and put his own child in danger. I don't like either of them, but it annoys me how she acts like David is such a better father, simply because he schleps her kid around all day. 

 

1 hour ago, poeticlicensed said:

 

Jace doesn't text Janelle, ever. Didn't Barb say at one point that the only access Jace has to a phone is hers? If she saw that kind of texting going on, I doubt she would not confront Janelle about it. And Janelle would never text jace through Barb's phone. Sorry, I don't buy it. 

 

No, I think Jace has his own phone. Sadly. During the Unseen Moments episode, they showed an episode of them all out to dinner. Jenelle brought up how Jace had just been scolded by the Uber driver. Barb further explained that when he got in the car, "HIS phone was blaring". Then in a later segment Jenelle is talking about how nosy Maryssa is, how she listens to their conversations from the backseat. While Jace is usually engrossed on his ipad or phone. I know Jenelle makes up a lot of shit, but I don't think she was lying about that. It sounds like he does have his own phone. 

That being said, I highly doubt he's constantly texting Jenelle and begging to come live with her. If anything, SHE is likely the one reaching out to him and asking repeatedly if he wants to come live with her. And, not knowing how to handle it, he just says "yes".

Jenelle doesn't want that boy back because she loves and cares about him. If she did, she'd realize how disruptive it would be at this point in his life. She is jealous of his relationship with Barb, and wants to punish Barb by taking the child away from her. It's sick. 

[BitterApple]

1 hour ago, CofCinci said:

 

Don't you love how he brushed off Babs' concerns of financial exploitation because Janelle and David plan to marry?!!  Dude, have you seen the meme that shows all her engagement rings?!!

I seriously just want to throat punch him sometimes. What the fuck does being married have to do with anything? Cory, Cole, Javi and Jeremy were all married and still held jobs. There's no reason for Dave to quit working besides him wanting to live off Jenelle's money. Oh, and we're supposed to believe he's in school? Sure, Jan.

[SPLAIN]

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No, I think Jace has his own phone. Sadly. During the Unseen Moments episode, they showed an episode of them all out to dinner. Jenelle brought up how Jace had just been scolded by the Uber driver. Barb further explained that when he got in the car, "HIS phone was blaring". Then in a later segment Jenelle is talking about how nosy Maryssa is, how she listens to their conversations from the backseat. While Jace is usually engrossed on his ipad or phone. I know Jenelle makes up a lot of shit, but I don't think she was lying about that. It sounds like he does have his own phone. 

Yes, unfortunately, Barb mentioned "his phone was blasting." I bet you Jenelle bought that phone for Jace. She probably said to Barb he needed a phone so she can stay in touch with him since Barb doesn't let her see him as often. Guilt trips.

4 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

I seriously just want to throat punch him sometimes. What the fuck does being married have to do with anything? Cory, Cole, Javi and Jeremy were all married and still held jobs. There's no reason for Dave to quit working besides him wanting to live off Jenelle's money. Oh, and we're supposed to believe he's in school? Sure, Jan.

I was just going to comment on this when your post came up, so I am quoting you to agree with what you posted.  As if getting married assures equality with one's money and material possessions. Take a look at Kail and Javi. Take note Jenelle.

I get where Barb was going with her comments about Jenelle spending her money on Dave. In my heart of hearts I think Barb was really trying to convey Jenelle is in danger with UBT, but she is too afraid to mention it publicly on camera because she knows Jenelle will suffer the repercussions. UBT already has caused a divide between mother and daughter. Barb can't save Jenelle from this danger, something Barb knows too well since she herself was in a DV relationship. Since Drew doesn't watch the show and doesn't know the backstory of Jenelle and Dave as a couple the way we do, of course he will say Jenelle is an adult and she can do what she wants. His wording was different, but that is essentially what he was saying in his own way.

The only other thing I can think of is, Drew may see the signs and red flags, but until Jenelle comes forward and says she is concerned about her relationship with UBT and she mentions anything sounds remotely DV-related, all he can do is not put Jenelle and her unborn baby in further danger by commenting on UBTs behavior which would set him off and he would then harm Jenelle when they are back at the hotel. Not giving Drew any defense, but just trying to give some explanation.

Jenelle mentioned to Drew how Dave told her (via text or told her during the break, not sure) how Nathan and Barb were talking in secret backstage, as if they were in cahoots. Barb flatly denied it. I believe her. UBT is whispering in Jenelle's ear some major bullshit to further this divide or the guy is suffering from paranoia due to mental illness or drug use.

I am so sad to hear Barb doesn't have a relationship with Kaiser.

[Mr. Miner]

Jenelle is pissed because Kai spends the weekend with his grandmother. When Jace has been raised by his grandmother for 7 years. She's such a hypocrite lowlife POS, but she is a well spoken and educated lowlife POS...GTFOH!  

[KittyKat133]

1. Nathan is a scary mess. I think he cares for kai but obviously he is more broken up over losing "the love of his life" (burn to jenelle) Jessie than he is over the possibility of losing custody of his kid. Not the first time he has lost custody of a child either! 

2. UBT is so scary and jenelle is so afraid of him that she gets on the phone during an interview with dr. Drew with a live studio audience to pacify his hissy fit over some obvious nonsense Nathan said. Did you see how she couldn't even concentrate on the segment with her mom because she was too worried about Davids feelings (or his baby drama hissy fit nonsense in order to control jenelle.) 

its really very scary. She's very controlled by him and then he won't even come out to support her but he is messaging her the whole time trying to pull her away. "He's worried about me, he thinks I need to come back to the room". Maybe if she focused on her mom or dr drew at all they could've gotten somewhere especially with drew defending jenelle but once again she is choosing her latest warm crotch over her child all the while crying over why her mom won't just "give him back" 

It's so obvious! Barb is worried for both jace and jennelles safety living in bumblef&$@ with UBT! It's a future ID discovery murder special like someone said on here! 

[poopchute]

I know Dr Drew is absolutely The Worst, but I am shocked that after that segment he was still maintaining that Jenelle is "stable" and "better." Yes technically she's "better" in that she's not on heroin but how could he sit there while a grown woman has a meltdown and has to call people to prove she never talked about someone's penis and not say anything about it??! She was acting like a 14 year old.  That wh situation was scary and I don't see how anyone could think she should be responsible for children.  She couldn't focus on anything else except for the stupid shit about the penis picture and then she had to leave the set because she has zero coping skills.  The whole thing was INSANE.

I know they can't use this footage in court but I wish the next time Jenelle argues that she's stable, Barb could say "okay well check out this footage of Jenelle freaking out and obsessing over proving to her boyfriend that she never talked about Nathan's penis to one of her friends."  

I seriously howled with laughed over both of them calling people in the middle of the show to say "someone said you said this, tell them you didn't say it!!!"  It is just astonishing how juvenile these people are.

[OldButHappy]

On March 28, 2017 at 3:21 AM, hoosiermom said:

Heck. I thought Janelle had her legs pulled up with her knees under her chin until I realized those were her boobs! Yikers!

ME TOO!!!!!!!

[alexa]

Yes, the reunion, esp with Janelle was a mess.  You have all recapped it well.  I just wanted to say that like many others I found it annoying how Dr. Drew kept saying the "but she is doing better" about Jenelle.  He sounds like such an idiot.  And the fact that he can't see her boyfriend has issues and thinks Jace should live with that situation is pretty sad.  This was my last episode of Teen Mom 2.  I can't support the likes of Kail and Janelle anymore, and be a part of them continuing to make money on TV.  

[SweetieDarling]

Janelle claims she wants Jace back, and how badly he wants to live with her, but I wonder has she ever  gone to any of his Boy Scout events, or  School plays/concerts? Field days?  classroom holiday parties? back to school nights or even sat in on parent- teacher conferences?  I'm guessing no. It's not like she can blame her work schedule.  I hope Barb's lawyer mentions this in the custody hearing if that's the case.

[Jax7917]

How has MTV not gotten a different host by now? I'm pretty sure NO ONE likes Dr. Drew. He clearly doesn't watch the show and doesn't ever say anything rational in regard to their behavior. If he truly watched it and was a good host/doctor/whatever he wants to be for the hour... then he would put these whiny, dramatic bitches in their place .. pleaseeee get a new host

Edited March 29, 2017 by Jaclyn88

[IgnoranceisBLISS]

23 hours ago, Ljohnson1987 said:

Jenelle... You say that Nathan is putting up a front on TV, and only wants to see Kai for the sake of TV. You're doing the same thing with Jace. I wonder how active Jenelle would be when it came to getting custody of Jace, if the MTV cameras weren't there.  Also, how come she can cry, but tears never come out? Nathan calling her out on the fake tears was 100% true. I don't know if I am Team Jenelle, or Team Nathan. I am Team Jace, Kai, Ensley, Maryssa, and any other kids that are affected because of the stupidity of Jenelle, and whatever person she's with at the moment. Also, my heart always breaks for Babs.  It's obvious how much she loves Jace. Jenelle never shows any love for him, or cries tears for him. 

 

Leah... How does it feel having to deal with two ex-husbands? She's good with Corey, and that's great. I wonder if she still wants to get back together with Jeremy. Also, I doubt that Leah will finish school. She'll find an excuse to quit.

 

Why are we celebrating that this mess has lasted for 100 episodes? 

This!!! I wish I could give you infinity likes! 

[teapot]

1 hour ago, SweetieDarling said:

Janelle claims she wants Jace back, and how badly he wants to live with her, but I wonder has she ever  gone to any of his Boy Scout events, or  School plays/concerts? Field days?  classroom holiday parties? back to school nights or even sat in on parent- teacher conferences?  I'm guessing no. It's not like she can blame her work schedule.  I hope Barb's lawyer mentions this in the custody hearing if that's the case.

From what I've seen (not heard, Jenelle says different things), *she's* always the one to bring it up to Jace, "do you want to live w/me?"  am I correct in that, at the tea shop, *he* was the one to bring it up with Barb?  I'd worry about him if she got him (not "back", she never had him in the first place!)

[TheRealT]

1 hour ago, SweetieDarling said:

Janelle claims she wants Jace back, and how badly he wants to live with her, but I wonder has she ever  gone to any of his Boy Scout events, or  School plays/concerts? Field days?  classroom holiday parties? back to school nights or even sat in on parent- teacher conferences?  I'm guessing no. It's not like she can blame her work schedule.  I hope Barb's lawyer mentions this in the custody hearing if that's the case.

When Jenelle lists her reasons that she should get Jace "back," she never mentions anything about actually parenting him, she just lists her own achievements-

1) Graduating from a 9-month certificate program (and doing nothing to seek work in that or any other field)

2) Being in a stable relationship (for a year, with a guy who has a history of DV and who quit his job when he started dating her)

3) Buying land/a house (which she won't be able to pay for when the MTV money is gone and which her new, "stable" bf got her to put in his name as well)

That's it. No, "I've been volunteering with Jace's scout troop for a year...," no, "I've only missed one of his softball games this season...," no, "I've been researching treatments for his ADD...," NOTHING but her doing what any normal person would consider the absolute bare minimum to be a functional adult.

Edited March 29, 2017 by TheRealT

[GreatKazu]

2 hours ago, Jaclyn88 said:

How has MTV not gotten a different host by now? I'm pretty sure NO ONE likes Dr. Drew. He clearly doesn't watch the show and doesn't ever say anything rational in regard to their behavior. If he truly watched it and was a good host/doctor/whatever he wants to be for the hour... then he would put these whiny, dramatic bitches in their place .. pleaseeee get a new host

MTV doesn't want anyone to put these girls in their place. That is not how they work. They want a host who can coddle these broads and make them comfortable so they are not running off the stage.

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When Jenelle lists her reasons that she should get Jace "back," she never mentions anything about actually parenting him, she just lists her own achievements-

And not once has she ever said, "I love my child."

 

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I get where Barb was going with her comments about Jenelle spending her money on Dave. In my heart of hearts I think Barb was really trying to convey Jenelle is in danger with UBT, but she is too afraid to mention it publicly on camera because she knows Jenelle will suffer the repercussions

I was watching some episodes on my DVR yesterday and I noticed Barb was not at all hesitant at calling out Jenelle's home environment as being violent  back when Nathan and Jenelle were together.  My guess is Jenelle had told Barb about the fights and it was why Barb felt comfortable in revealing the fighting as one major reason why Jace couldn't be in their care.  Jenelle wasn't afraid of Nathan the way she is afraid of UBT. I bet Jenelle has never told her mother about any abuse that has happened because she knows Barb would use that hearsay information in the future. I do believe Barb is aware of violence in the home, she just can't say anything because she sees those red flags and senses Jenelle is in danger.

Edited March 29, 2017 by GreatKazu

[IgnoranceisBLISS]

19 minutes ago, GreatKazu said:

MTV doesn't want anyone to put these girls in their place. That is not how they work. They want a host who can coddle these broads and make them comfortable so they are not running off the stage.

And not once has she ever said, "I love my child."

 

 

This should be the first and foremost reason why and we have yet to hear it ONE time!!! She never states why it would benefit Jace to be in her custody. The only thing we ever hear is how she is "stable", blah blah blah. 

Edited March 29, 2017 by IgnoranceisBLISS

[Jax7917]

I'd love to see her wanting to be Jace's guardian when David is no longer in her life. She'll have 3 kids by 3 different daddies. How do you manage the drop off times? That takes serious time management.

[Jennifersdc]

On 3/27/2017 at 9:34 PM, Brooklynista said:

Weird isn't It? Almost like she's a fake ass twatwaffle and can't quite stick the performance.

12-lbs of eye make-up and not a single smudge! 

Mabelline must be knocking down her door!