S03.E04: Meet the Parents

[Sew Sumi]

5 minutes ago, Chicklet said:

That "Graduation" was purely for effect. They wanted the internet to STFU. Funny though, it had absolutely effect on me. When you print out your own diploma from an eponymous academy it makes me laugh. And those kids are dumb as stumps.

Since the state does not issue diplomas, unless they went through a real high school (dream on), those diplomas aren't worth the paper they were printed on. The frames come extra. 

[drafan]

26 minutes ago, LoquaciousAudacity said:

 

oh, Jill. And the pastors wife. Yes, instead of putting resources into helping these women get away from their bad husbands, let's help them stay in their bad marriages. And thank goodness for Jill, literally sitting there with a blank face while these women cried. 

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.......but that what she was trained to do (cued by JB)  during all of Anna's THs.

20 minutes ago, Chicklet said:

I will pay actual cash money to never hear TheBoob ever say "swap spit" again. Like he allows his spawn to kiss their crush.

 

Of course I did not watch this, but 1) please tell me this didn't happen , 2) it almost made me barf, and 3) where did he get that out-dated term from? A rerun of Happy Days?

28 minutes ago, LoquaciousAudacity said:

Then, you have Dim Bulb grilling Jeremy about his finances, extremely uncomfortable and I wanted Jeremy's parents to say, how about your daughter getting a damn job to cover her thrift store addiction and contribute to their family. 

 

Now that is just sad......wouldn't you think that a "thrift-shop addiction" would be a plus for a preacher's wife. Poor little Jinger....now I actually feel for her.

[Sew Sumi]

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And to me the JB comment of -- your modest salary may not be enough, you'll need a 2nd job was such a set up for a conversation whether a month from now or a yr from now -- look you're living 700 miles away from us on a pittance, come back to Arkansas, you can preach here, and I have tons of free housing available.

Ahem. I called this one the second I found out about Jeremy's little plant church. I even referenced it earlier on this thread.  MINE!!!!!!! :p

PS: The evidence for me is the building that Jana JB bought about six weeks ago. A storefront in what looks to be a mini stripmall. Uhm.....all the pieces are there. 

Edited September 14, 2016 by Sew Sumi

[SoSueMe]

1 minute ago, drafan said:

 

Of course I did not watch this, but 1) please tell me this didn't happen , 2) it almost made me barf, and 3) where did he get that out-dated term from? A rerun of Happy Days?

 

It happened.

[Chicklet]

Oh it so happened and to my mind it was about as nauseating as the mini-golf dry hump. I wanted to have the camera pan to Babe's parents to see what they were thinking. Does anyone else think they appeared to be less than thrilled by the Duggars?

[EmeraldGirl]

I can't get a handle on Jeremy's parents. All they do is smile and hold hands. At least mom loves her white pants. 

What I can get a handle on is Boob's stomach (not that I want to physically hold it - ack !). Looks like his down time off camera was spent eating his frustrations. Where's the lecture on gluttony? He can play annoying father-in-law to be, but I'm not sure he's liking where his daughters are going. I think the arm around Jinger is driving him nuts. 

Edited September 14, 2016 by EmeraldGirl

[Christina87]

As cringeworthy as I thought Jill and Jessa's courtships were, and as many times as I rolled my eyes, I don't remember either being as gag-worthy and melodramatic as this one. Jinger seriously is a 14-year-old girl. When she was going on and on about how she could only pay attention to the tour guide, I couldn't help but remember Jill actually enjoying Nepal, and seeming to care about the sights. No, Jinger, this kind of infatuation isn't normal, even in your culture. The way she behaved in Jeremy's apartment and church, practically saying, "ooooooh what nice toilet paper," made me want to puke!

as for Jeremy, he is acting the exact same way, but it feels so fake. He seems just like the perfect on paper guy you go out with a couple times until you realize he's just going to extremes to get you into bed. 

[woodscommaelle]

19 minutes ago, EmeraldGirl said:

I wonder how that relationship is going.

Hopefully he was like 'dude, you fucking suck.'

[Angeltoes]

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How many fucking times was Jinger going to talk about how everything is "super hard". 

She'll be saying it on her honeymoon.

[flyingdi]

I think Jeremy needed that "Please no children in the closet" in his apartment.  Might have kept Jim Bob out.

[BitterApple]

32 minutes ago, Christina87 said:

As cringeworthy as I thought Jill and Jessa's courtships were, and as many times as I rolled my eyes, I don't remember either being as gag-worthy and melodramatic as this one. 

I think this is the first time Jinger's been paid attention to in her life. She's always been on the periphery of the J'Slaves. She wasn't the first born daughter like Jana or Daddy's favorite like Jill or the pretty one like Jessa. Other than her incessant eye rolling, nothing about her really stood out. To actually be recognized as an individual has to be exhilarating for her, even if Jeremy is smarmy and completely insincere.

[Arwen Evenstar]

18 minutes ago, Angeltoes said:

She'll be saying it on her honeymoon.

We can only hope so, otherwise it's over in 30 sec!

[saylubee]

I have a feeling the meeting and lunch was reenacted as the "first meeting".  Jim Bob seemed to delight in turning the screws a little too much to be the first time.

I also wonder how those courtship rules are going.  There were a few times when you could see Jinger's mouth pucker involuntarily when they were cuddled into each other.  I don't think we saw that with any of the other couples.  I have a feeling they may have already kissed a few times.

I'm impressed Jeremy has his own apartment.  I thought for sure he lived out of a room in the church.

[Christina87]

3 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

even if Jeremy is smarmy and completely insincere.

You just completely put into words how I feel about Jeremy! I've gotten a bad feeling about him since we found out he exists (I mean, for obvious reasons, like choosing to join this family), but really tried to go into this season with an open mind. Every episode has left me more disappointed in him, but today completely shattered any illusion that he's sincere. I kept getting this sneaking unsafe feeling, like something was not right and every cell in my body was telling me to run...and I wasn't even there! Again, this is the feeling you get on a creepy date, when you've tried to give someone the benefit of the doubt, but then realize that something's off that you can't deny, so you need to leave ASAP. Tonight I've gone from slightly down from neutral about Jeremy to completely wishing Jinger would run. I kept wanting to yell, "Jinger, wake up! if you're having any uneasy feelings, don't suppress them because you're in this deep! Listen to them, and run!"

As for Jinger, I think her behavior and feelings are sincere, which is disturbing, but could be worked out in real therapy. If she could partake in this (yeah, long shot), she could be a sweet and normal / not desperate girlfriend for someone else. 

[Arwen Evenstar]

From @cereality:

What girl's father feels it is ok to open his daughter's boyfriend's closet and walk in -- not peek inside but actually open the freaking door? What did he think Jer could have been hiding back there -- another girlfriend?

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Maybe he was wondering if Jeremy had a game room like Christian Grey?

A Hey-Hey-Hey Room? Maybe he wanted to compare the size of his own "naughty room"? 

Boob is skeevy 

[Sew Sumi]

16 minutes ago, Arwen Evenstar said:

We can only hope so, otherwise it's over in 30 sec!

Uhm, that's a given. Remember, Mechelle tells her daughters that it won't take very long. Like back and think of Arkansas.

[88Keys]

I might be weirded out by Jeremy or annoyed by Jinger or confused by the whole thing, if I thought ANY of this was real.  I mean, I get that they are a real couple, but I feel like everything we are seeing is just re-created and/or manufactured for the benefit of the cameras.  I think they are a much more established couple than the show would have us believe.  I think the parents have already met, and JimBob already knows they're going to get married, etc.  The only thing that seemed legit was how pushy and obnoxious JimBob was.  Wow, he sucks.  I don't want him on my TV.

Did Michelle speak at all tonight?

Jeremy's reaction to the "art" was hilarious.  Again, not real.

Assuming that Jeremy is on the up-and-up, I hope he does take Jinger away to Laredo, and she gets to stay there, away from her family, experiencing (sort-of)  big city life. 

[saylubee]

For me, the jury is still out on whether Jeremy is creepy or not.  I think he's a really bad actor and the "reenactments" are doing him absolutely no favors.

I also wish the Duggar's would just be real about the timelines.  In reality, Jinger and Jeremy have been courting closer to six months, likely soon after their mission trip together.  This two week courtship and "fast track" bullshit makes him look like a creeper who wants her va-jay-jay and nothing more.  I get that the Duggar's didn't want another failed courtship, especially with a daughter, but this can't be more preferable then saying "Yep, they courted for six months, now watch them get engaged!"

[RedDelicious]

How about "thank you, Jeremy, for your hospitality." Words that were not spoken, or didn't make the edit. So ungrateful. I guess the local food (which looked delicious) was no match for Pa Keller's sandwich spread at the Turd wedding. Jim Bob practically had a boner with a sandwich in his hand that somebody else paid for. 

[88Keys]

And I kind of like Joy.  Or maybe I've just realized that I prefer almost any of them to watching Jessa or Jill.  Jessa in particular irritates me for reasons I don't totally understand. 

Jana is so pretty.

Jinger is really thin.  Like, worryingly thin.  But in her talking heads, she looks more normal.  Color me confused.

[Sew Sumi]

5 minutes ago, Saytura said:

For me, the jury is still out on whether Jeremy is creepy or not.  I think he's a really bad actor and the "reenactments" are doing him absolutely no favors.

I also wish the Duggar's would just be real about the timelines.  In reality, Jinger and Jeremy have been courting closer to six months, likely soon after their mission trip together.  This two week courtship and "fast track" bullshit makes him look like a creeper who wants her va-jay-jay and nothing more.  I get that the Duggar's didn't want another failed courtship, especially with a daughter, but this can't be more preferable then saying "Yep, they courted for six months, now watch them get engaged!"

I think the "fast track" is from courtship ---> wedding. The two months bit from Jeremy in scenes we know are from June mean they started courting in April. They "got to know" from the missioncation back in December. I'm still staking bets on the 10/15, so they can get footage before sweeps sweep this show out. , 

I hope ratings suck ass tonight. I'm on the west coast, already know what happens, and even so, I'm extremely bored. 

Nice bed, Jer. 

[Spencer Hastings]

Okay, I've really been very tolerant about Jeremy.  I said I would wait to see him in action before I made any judgements.  I've waited 4 episodes and I just can't with him anymore.  I just can't.  I spoke to my Special Education 5th graders with less patronizing enthusiasm.  "Ooooh, this is incredible!  You hammered these nails all by yourself?  Good job, babe! Oooh."  Give me a break.  She's not a child, nor a dog.  Speak to her like the 22 year old woman that she is.  I'm not even going to say that he's belittling her because she's a woman.  She does the same thing.  *walks into 700 sqft apartment* "Oooh babe!  This is great!  Beautiful!"  No, it's NORMAL.  I'm about to rip my ears off if they keep this up.  

At least we can see that she's very attracted to him.  She looks like she's ready to eat his face off at any given moment. There are so many natural moments that should turn into a kiss but then they remember that they're supposed to be keeping up with 98,000 rules. It's kind of awkward.  

Edited September 14, 2016 by Spencer Hastings

[VioletNevermind]

Jinj.  Jinj.  Jinj.  Jinj.  Jinj.  Jinj.

STOP. IT.  It is the most cringe-worthy nickname on the planet and I need it to stop yesterday.

Edited September 14, 2016 by SuzyLee

[Patricia07]

I'm surprised that JB didn't make a lewd comment about Jer's bed.

[OSM Mom]

Good grief.  I'm going deaf from the sound of my brain cells dying while watching this.  Ugh.  JD is a firefighter and a policeman??  No.  No he's not.  

[BitterApple]

I face palmed when Jinger was gushing over Jeremy's crappy bouquet and equally crappy apartment. Mrs. Vuolo gave it her best shot with the decorating, but the place looks like Section 8 housing. Boob's a dick, but I wouldn't want my daughter living there either.

[queenanne]

1 hour ago, Chicklet said:

That "Graduation" was purely for effect. They wanted the internet to STFU. Funny though, it had absolutely effect on me. When you print out your own diploma from an eponymous academy it makes me laugh. And those kids are dumb as stumps.

Yeah, I don't know what they (or Nancy) think this answers.  The kids should need to jump through whatever standardized hoops Arkansas requires for high school graduation, and have them evaluated by an adult affiliated with the school.  "We printed out a piece of paper basically saying they showed up and sat at desks!"  So what, oh what, can you tell me the kids have *learned*?

[Arwen Evenstar]

18 minutes ago, SuzyLee said:

Jinj.  Jinj.  Jinj.  Jinj.  Jinj.  Jinj.

STOP. IT.  It is the most cringe-worthy nickname on the planet and I need it to stop yesterday.

Whenever he calls her "Jing", my mind goes to minge...

Time for a drag reference..one of my favorite drag queens: Ginger Minj....I'll see myself out....

 

Edited September 14, 2016 by Arwen Evenstar
Excusing myself to the prayer closet.

[Annb67]

Excuse my language. You have been warned.

Dear Jim Boob FUCK YOU! Seriously....can Jeremy beat his ass?! Please...

Jeremy and jinj...STOP!! Seriously "babe" the fourth grade nail art was not exquisite. Monet.... exquisite. Nail art...not exquisite. 

Again Jim Boob....shut the hell up. You piece of snarky ass shit. Maybe you should have gotten a first or second job while you had three million kids living in a run down condemned hell hole. Again....Jeremy needs to beat his ass.

Jim Boob and Michelle. I hate you. I hate you for giving your kids some half-assed view of life where at 18 your kids think they are done with school and your daughters do nothing but wait around for a man. 

Jeez.... this show makes me have violent tendencies

[BitterApple]

So Jer and Jed get to start businesses while Joy helps with the kids and waits for Prince Charming. At this point, how much help does Michelle really need? The Littles are 6-11. Besides schooling, they should be reasonably self sufficient. 

[yogi2014L]

3 hours ago, Katydid said:

Jerm kinda gives off a creeper vibe. All those photos of them in his apartment were a bit extreme. And Jinger acting like his apartment was the Taj Mahal or something. 

OMG I know!! I can't even deal with this right now. This is ridiculous. 

[Wellfleet]

So I'm surfing around at 11 pm and see a Duggar face go by. What the ??? I've been away from the forum for several months now - it was getting pretty quiet last Spring - and had NO IDEA the "Counting On" show was back. Can't believe it's back either but hey, this is TLC! Just heard yesterday that one of their newer stars - from that Willis family show I think - has been charged with child rape so I can see nothing much has changed. TLC - the lowest common denominator channel. Of course the Duggars are back! I have some catching-up to do apparently, since this was episode 4. So Jinger is now courting? Or engaged? Has a wedding date been set? Is Josh back? On TV I mean? Are Jill & Derick still in Central America? I'll have to read the comments from the other 3 episodes, becuz I'm not sure I could stomach watching the actual show anymore. As it was, I only caught the last 15 min or so when I happened to see it on the tube tonight. 

[MarysWetBar]

18 minutes ago, Annb67 said:

Excuse my language. You have been warned.

Dear Jim Boob FUCK YOU! Seriously....can Jeremy beat his ass?! Please...

Jeremy and jinj...STOP!! Seriously "babe" the fourth grade nail art was not exquisite. Monet.... exquisite. Nail art...not exquisite. 

Again Jim Boob....shut the hell up. You piece of snarky ass shit. Maybe you should have gotten a first or second job while you had three million kids living in a run down condemned hell hole. Again....Jeremy needs to beat his ass.

Jim Boob and Michelle. I hate you. I hate you for giving your kids some half-assed view of life where at 18 your kids think they are done with school and your daughters do nothing but wait around for a man. 

Jeez.... this show makes me have violent tendencies

Thanks gf! You saved me typing it all out!

Totally. 

[riverblue22]

The highlight of the show for me was seeing the Boobster and his bride stuck in the third row of the SUV behind the Vuolos.

I thought the most awkward scene was in the apartment with the Duggars and Vuolos sitting there staring at the lovebirds on the couch...until we got to the restaurant scene starring that king of turds, Jim Bob Duggar.  I got the definite feeling that the Vuolos like Jing but not her parents and their counsel to Jeremy would be to stay far, far away from Arkansas and the Duggar sinkhole.

As usual, Joy is as big a disappointment as her older sisters.  And how many used car salesmen can be produced by one family?

[MarysWetBar]

9 minutes ago, Wellfleet said:

So I'm surfing around at 11 pm and see a Duggar face go by. What the ??? I've been away from the forum for several months now - it was getting pretty quiet last Spring - and had NO IDEA the "Counting On" show was back. Can't believe it's back either but hey, this is TLC! Just heard yesterday that one of their newer stars - from that Willis family show I think - has been charged with child rape so I can see nothing much has changed. TLC - the lowest common denominator channel. Of course the Duggars are back! I have some catching-up to do apparently, since this was episode 4. So Jinger is now courting? Or engaged? Has a wedding date been set? Is Josh back? On TV I mean? Are Jill & Derick still in Central America? I'll have to read the comments from the other 3 episodes, becuz I'm not sure I could stomach watching the actual show anymore. As it was, I only caught the last 15 min or so when I happened to see it on the tube tonight. 

Welcome back WF! 

Long time no snark! 

[Wellfleet]

Just now, MarysWetBar said:

Welcome back WF! 

Long time no snark! 

Thanks, Marys... I don't know how long this is going to last - this show is SO INCREDIBLY BORING. The little I managed to see was staggeringly dull. I can't believe TLC is still running the Duggars - last Spring I really thought they were over, but there's still 6 months to go in the year I gave them before "Counting On" started so I guess we'll see. If it's on at all in 2017 I'll be very surprised. I think people are pretty much done with the Duggars but who knows? If Trump gets in [God forbid], I guess it's conceivable that the Duggars could go on and on.... ?

[sometimesy]

It sounds like his church and home are 'humble'. Does this mean that he has no intention of staying there? If this guy ends up living on the compound all is lost. From what I'm reading it sounds like: If he wants to support Cringe in a style to which she is accustomed, he has to get another job, or move nearer to JB. With the Jana purchase of a location coming to light, it's over. Jeremy is to be castrated (not physically, but his manhood is to be removed) by an IDIOT. For a few dollar bills. C'mon TLC pay the Volvos extra to live on their own, really on their own, and film Cringe growing into her own person. Make Jeremy a hero TLC.

[Annb67]

And.....that song? They go around the house singing that? That is their song? Wtf.... I would sell a child to have had Jeremy crank out "Shots" or "Like a Virgin" in front of Mr and Mrs Idiot.

Btw.....Jeremy you can't sing. Jinj lies.

[Spencer Hastings]

I went to a Christian college.  During my third year there, the President of the college lost his wife to a 30 year battle with cancer (off and on).  They played "Come Thou Fount" at the memorial service that was held for her and later at her funeral.  To see these two fools gazing longingly at each other over a recording that he made of it gave me the creeps. 

Edited September 14, 2016 by Spencer Hastings

[EmeraldGirl]

Hey, Jinger is hot for preacher, it seems to have driven Jim Bob to tater tot binges, and I'm loving every minute of it. Plus insane looking Michelle can't keep her hands off the guy. This shit is way better than ordering Bin to clean toilets. 

[Magoo]

Only halfway thorough but SHALLOW ALERT: Joy's tongue is so dang heavy in her mouth - it legit curls to the back of her bottom teeth when she speaks. If she didn't keep her teeth as closed as she does it would surely just roll out like a wet red carpet. 

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Okay, what the hell did I just watch? Boob has completely lost control over this courtship and he knows it. His lame attempts at lifting his leg and peeing his authority all over JinJer went ignored and were basically eye rolled by Jinger, Jeremy and his parents. His folks actually know, love and are proud of their son - they had zero patience for Jim Bob's embarrassing boobery. Jinger can barely control herself. It's uncomfortable to watch her literal and figurative clawing at Jeremy and the freedom she thinks he represents. And what did I see? Ma and Pa joined-at-the-halitosis-hip Duggar sitting as far apart from each other as they could at the restaurant? Maybe the ragmags have it right - Josh has torn them apart, no matter what bible verse they hide behind. And good lord - that smuggy nyah nyah smirk Boob shot Jeremy when he was riding up the escalator at the airport departure with his virginal prize daughter was YUCK. This show exhausts me. ::falls over::

Edited September 14, 2016 by Magoo

[Temperance]

Everyone (above all the posters) are wonderful. Enjoying reading this.

I only watched this episode and last week's so this is the first time I've seen Jeremy. He definitely likes that his princess bride has been living in her in ivory tower for so long.  I agree Jinger was overlooked by both parents and with Jessa gone she likes the attention from anyone especially a handsome  (in her eyes) man. 

I think  it's possible they're acting.

I like that Jeremy wants to live in Texas. I also liked how he didn't just parrot the right answers ala Derrick. My favorite Jeremy moment was when he said JB has a sense of humor and kids around. I don't think JB was kidding when Jeremy thought he was. I think Jeremy (and Derrick hadn't before marriage) hasn't really watched the show.  I think JB is in for a bumpier ride with Jeremy.

Jeremy's parents like Jinger and even the idea of their son being a Christian television star "celebrity" and seeing him happy and as they put it "seeing him find a woman who meets his criteria."  However they seemed to find JB abrasive and I did too.

Michelle was mostly  quiet and then kissed Jeremy on the cheek as they were leaving! Why didn't Jinger get to do that?

Didn't at some point the kids get GED. When Josiah talked about certificates,  I had gotcha! moment so the School of the Dining Room Table isn't good enough to get it's students GEDS anymore. We knew the homeschooling was falling apart and that's almost proof. I suppose the other kids have GEDS and Duggar Academy Certificates, but how can anyone think those Duggar Academy certificates mean something?

Edited September 14, 2016 by Temperance

[jacksgirl]

Emeraldgirl, Hot for Preacher. Love it. Admit I only watched with one eye open. The Holy Goalie seems ssee more much older than Jinj. 

[LeighAnne]

Joy, during her Talking Head segment on her "graduation":  [paraphrasing; I didn't get the exact words] "I'm not really good at math.  I don't think I'm going to need Algebra, unless I become an engineer, and my heart isn't leading me in that direction."

Yes, Joy, your heart isn't leading you to becoming an engineer.  Also, you live in a closed society which believes females only exist to breed, and you're not allowed to go to college, so you definitely aren't becoming an engineer.

[Fuzzysox]

I felt like I was watching......TLC presents, My 13 Year Old Life As Jinger. OMG it was terrible. The Duggar kids are so ill equipped for the real world there are no words for it.

[JoanArc]

I don't watch; thanks for taking the bullet y'all. 

 

I'm beyond horrified Jim Bob is back on TV. It's visceral pain seeing him and Michelle. They deserve to be dropped off on a desert island, never to be seen again. Will be interested in seeing how it effects ratings.

 

 I wonder if, in 20 years, Jinger will look back and think the few months of  lowish TV ratings were worth marrying a guy like Jer.

[Brooklynista]

I dare any one of you to give my grown ass some damn string on a peg board. Stand there and wait for my response. 

[tabloidlover]

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I dare any one of you to give my grown ass some damn string on a peg board. Stand there and wait for my response. 

Does this mean that you won't swoon over it?  You won't think it is the most speshul gift ever?  That isn't very Jesus like of you

Edited September 14, 2016 by tabloidlover

[queenanne]

2 hours ago, LeighAnne said:

Joy, during her Talking Head segment on her "graduation":  [paraphrasing; I didn't get the exact words] "I'm not really good at math.  I don't think I'm going to need Algebra, unless I become an engineer, and my heart isn't leading me in that direction."

Yes, Joy, your heart isn't leading you to becoming an engineer.  Also, you live in a closed society which believes females only exist to breed, and you're not allowed to go to college, so you definitely aren't becoming an engineer.

Well, clearly that's a learned response, innit? I don't think kids pick that up in a vacuum.  Clearly she's had several half-grown-woman training years of someone caroling at her "so what if you're not good at algebra?  the only reason anyone might need algebra, is if they want to become *(insert "isn't that krazy?" face)* ... an engineer, or something!!"

[Arwen Evenstar]

7 hours ago, sometimesy said:

It sounds like his church and home are 'humble'. Does this mean that he has no intention of staying there? If this guy ends up living on the compound all is lost. From what I'm reading it sounds like: If he wants to support Cringe in a style to which she is accustomed, he has to get another job, or move nearer to JB. With the Jana purchase of a location coming to light, it's over. Jeremy is to be castrated (not physically, but his manhood is to be removed) by an IDIOT. For a few dollar bills. C'mon TLC pay the Volvos extra to live on their own, really on their own, and film Cringe growing into her own person. Make Jeremy a hero TLC.

I think a new title for this forum has been inspired.

The Volvos: Germy & Cringe