allonsyalice August 25, 2019 Share August 25, 2019 Poor Sam. His mother doesn't care about his feelings in the slightest. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5553773
Trillium August 25, 2019 Share August 25, 2019 Oh my kid is terrified! Let’s Insta this! 😭🤑#poorbaby #jkIdontreallygiveafuck #hopingtogetdonations #payformywindow #isaskingforanewcartoomuch? 4 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5553777
PradaKitty August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 Ever hear of a repair shop, kids? 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5553827
farmgal4 August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, allonsyalice said: Poor Sam. His mother doesn't care about his feelings in the slightest. I wouldn’t expect her to be any other way. One of the worst things that I’ve seen out of these 2 assholes was when they had Izzy on a boat, in the middle of a lake, and Izzy was scared to death. The 2 assholes basically told him to suck it up. Izzy was maybe 3-years-old. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5553828
Sew Sumi August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, PradaKitty said: Ever hear of a repair shop, kids? She said she's taking it in tomorrow. 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5553856
PradaKitty August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 If they didn’t keep tons of crap in their NEW garage, they could park the car there. Crisis averted ! 1 5 15 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5553857
Popular Post JoanArc August 26, 2019 Popular Post Share August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, GeeGolly said: Asshole mother move Jill. I’d love to air some footage of Jill crying about a freaking shower curtain rod in response 1 26 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5554331
ginger90 August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 Some commented on Israel being improperly strapped in his car seat. Omg at the people defending it on her Instagram. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5554481
xwordfanatik August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 Fuckhead parents. Shame on them. 1 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5554850
Sew Sumi August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, ginger90 said: Some commented on Israel being improperly strapped in his car seat. Omg at the people defending it on her Instagram. From the looks of things, they're deleting comments. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5554890
Quilt Fairy August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 3 hours ago, PradaKitty said: If they didn’t keep tons of crap in their NEW garage, they could park the car there. Crisis averted ! How much crap could they have accumulated? They've got a two car garage, don't they? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5555028
Absolom August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 Rather than traumatize their son, they could have borrowed a car or skipped church like rational human beings. Those two are so incompetent at life I can imagine Israel will outpace them by age 8. 20 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5555029
cmr2014 August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 7 hours ago, madpsych78 said: Didn't Derick state in that video that Jill wouldn't have a baby this year (2019)? I don't know, I still think that Derick is preventing pregnancy without Jill's consent. Jill's consent doesn't matter -- now, does it? Derick is the headship and is supposed to make all of the decisions. Condoms are the only form of birth control that Derick would have control over, and I can see Jill using nap time as an opportunity to poke holes in all of Derick's condoms. Honestly, I wish all of these people would get off of the baby train -- at least for a while. It would be nice if they could all take some time to decide whether or not they want to be parents -- and how many children they can financially and emotionally manage. That won't happen, though, because they've all been programmed for years to believe that their own thoughts and desires don't matter. JB and J'chelle matter. Gothard matters. Having babies for Jesus matters. They, themselves, though, don't matter. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5555079
PikaScrewChu August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 Jilly Muffin learned from the best of the best. Anyone remember Jason falling into the orchestra pit and Meech's immediate reaction to film it? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5555091
Snow Fairy August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 I feel sick looking at Izzy's dirty straps. Poor children 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5555178
WalrusGirl August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, ginger90 said: Some commented on Israel being improperly strapped in his car seat. Omg at the people defending it on her Instagram. Who cares about the dirty seat?! It’s the looseness and totally incorrectly placed chest clip that are horrifying and why kids get ejected in accidents and rollovers “despite their [improperly used] seats.” (And I’m happily child-free, but have plenty of car seat tech friends on FB. Parent-shaming online is ridiculous, and I’d be terrified to ever post a child in a child seat because there are so many things to nitpick and criticize, but I’d also *want* the safety feedback from car seat safety people to know I was good.) 4 hours ago, cmr2014 said: Jill's consent doesn't matter -- now, does it? Derick is the headship and is supposed to make all of the decisions. Condoms are the only form of birth control that Derick would have control over, and I can see Jill using nap time as an opportunity to poke holes in all of Derick's condoms. Yeah, that and pulling out. (🤢) Either way she’d know about it. The only way he’s unilaterally using birth control without her [at least] implicit, grudging consent is if he got a vasectomy or if he’s slipping her the pill in something else. The latter of which I really don’t see him doing. That’s a far, far cry from being fine with family planning, which he probably legitimately *was* up until his time as JB’s prayer partner preparing to court his daughter. But after two disasters, likely medical complications for both her and Sam, and a headship who’s fine with heeding the probable medical advice to hit pause, I see Jill very reluctantly going along and eventually generally accepting it. That their church, and now Jing, are also of the same mindset would certainly have helped. Edited August 26, 2019 by WalrusGirl Chest clip, not cheat clip 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5555257
crazy8s August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 don't you all just love the effort they put in to appearing as "average/normal people", jill trying to get 'laudry' done while kids are napping. a malfunctioning car window, #boymom etc Well all the while they are repeatedly dispensing advice and trying to prove their superior way of life 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5555437
galaxychaser August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 I think Dereck told Jill they can have another after law school. I doubt he will get a vasectomy. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5555463
CalicoKitty August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 Izzy has never been in a good position. Jill carried him incorrectly in her "body wrap" thingy when he was a newborn. She pushed him in his car seat which was set atop a stroller. She just doesn't get it, and I just hope an accident doesn't happen. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5555649
ginger90 August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 From Instagram stories: Butterscotch Brownies Aug 26, 2019 | Recipes | 0 These are my mom’s favorite brownies, and one of her favorite desserts! Our friends, the Querys, make these and they became one of our favorite sweet treats. Makes one 9×13″ pan 2 cups sucanat (coconut sugar or brown sugar work too) 4 t. water (omit if using brown sugar) 1/2 cup light olive oil 2 eggs 2 t. vanilla 1 1/2 cups flour 2 t. baking powder 1 t. salt Grease 9×13″ pan. Combine all ingredients in bowl and mix well. Bake at 350 degrees for about 20 min. (Do not over bake!) Let sit a few min before cutting and serving. *Tip: cut brownies with plastic knife to keep them from sticking as you cut! Works with most all brownies!* This was followed by another “swipe up” to Derick’s post about loving your wife like you mean it. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5555714
Oldernowiser August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 Olive oil? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5555758
louannems August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 Wait! So she makes butterscotch brownies without adding butterscotch chips? Also, I cook with olive oil, but bake with it? No! Butter is needed for baking! 20 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5555760
ginger90 August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 10 minutes ago, Oldernowiser said: Olive oil? I would think the flavor would be off. Maybe half vegetable , and half olive, or just melted butter? I’m not a baker! 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5555780
Trillium August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 17 minutes ago, louannems said: Wait! So she makes butterscotch brownies without adding butterscotch chips? Also, I cook with olive oil, but bake with it? No! Butter is needed for baking! No butterscotch or chocolate in her butterscotch brownies! And as a baker I will use vegetable oil in baking but I don’t use olive oil. It definitely alters the flavor. 19 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5555792
dariafan August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 On 8/24/2019 at 9:29 PM, Jeeves said: I'm sure that's a typo, but I'm having fun imagining a Covenant Marriage Cook-Off. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 The food would probably be colorful and more flavorful than Jill’s 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5555838
dariafan August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 12 hours ago, Absolom said: Rather than traumatize their son, they could have borrowed a car or skipped church like rational human beings. Those two are so incompetent at life I can imagine Israel will outpace them by age 8. Skip church and let Izzy think he’s important ??? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5555848
Vivigirl10 August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 12 hours ago, cmr2014 said: That won't happen, though, because they've all been programmed for years to believe that their own thoughts and desires don't matter. JB and J'chelle matter. Gothard matters. Having babies for Jesus matters. They, themselves, though, don't matter. I'm surprised it's being theorized that they are preventing pregnancy to spare Jill's life. Baby, baby, baby! Babies matter, not the birthing vessel. Right? I think they would easily choose to risk her health and life (or actually just ignore that there is a risk) rather than actively preventing pregnancy. It's the equivalent of sticking their fingers in their ears and singing, la, la, la. Who would they possibly listen to that would tell them they shouldn't attempt to have anymore children? They know more than anyone else on this planet! The Lord will carry them through! 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5555868
leighdear August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 More brown, disgusting things from Jill. She's consistent. 10 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5555886
QuinnInND August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 (edited) I'm glad they're getting shit about Izzy's car seat! That shit pisses me off. The straps are too loose, the chest clip is way too low (Hey Jilly dumbass, it's called a CHEST clip for a reason) and it will not protect him in an accident. He'll either be ejected if God forbid they roll over, or hurt badly if they get into a non rollover accident. The video of Sammy makes me want to cry and beat Jilly and derelict to death with that umbrella. Freaking morons. Smh. Edited August 26, 2019 by QuinnInND Because get and getting are two different words. 24 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5555910
jcbrown August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 What do you suppose the kids are watching on the screen in the backseat? Marriage videos? Videos of their uncles droning about hope? 14 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5555942
galaxychaser August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 YouTube videos of cops the tv show. That way they are already cops like grandpa. 2 hours ago, ginger90 said: From Instagram stories: Butterscotch Brownies Aug 26, 2019 | Recipes | 0 These are my mom’s favorite brownies, and one of her favorite desserts! Our friends, the Querys, make these and they became one of our favorite sweet treats. Makes one 9×13″ pan 2 cups sucanat (coconut sugar or brown sugar work too) 4 t. water (omit if using brown sugar) 1/2 cup light olive oil 2 eggs 2 t. vanilla 1 1/2 cups flour 2 t. baking powder 1 t. salt Grease 9×13″ pan. Combine all ingredients in bowl and mix well. Bake at 350 degrees for about 20 min. (Do not over bake!) Let sit a few min before cutting and serving. *Tip: cut brownies with plastic knife to keep them from sticking as you cut! Works with most all brownies!* This was followed by another “swipe up” to Derick’s post about loving your wife like you mean it. No butterscotch. Also the color of diarrhea. Basically the same color going in as going out. I will see myself out. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5555959
yogi2014L August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 21 minutes ago, QuinnInND said: I'm glad they're get shit about Izzy's car seat! That shit pisses me off. The straps are too loose, the chest clip is way too low (Hey Jilly dumbass, it's called a CHEST clip for a reason) and it will not protect him in an accident. He'll either be ejected if God forbid they roll over, or hurt badly if they get into a non rollover accident. The video of Sammy makes me want to cry and beat Jilly and derelict to death with that umbrella. Freaking morons. Smh. Yes, the chest clip needs to be on the chest/ribcage otherwise if you are in an accident the chest clip can seriously injure the child's internal organs. We can only hope that she is learning from the feedback. Please care about your children's safety Jill! A car accident is the most likely thing to happen with serious consequences. Every 16 minutes there is a FATAL car accident. People do not take driving seriously enough and there is absolutely NO excuse for improperly restraining your children in the car. 16 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5555964
BitterApple August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, ginger90 said: I would think the flavor would be off. Maybe half vegetable , and half olive, or just melted butter? I’m not a baker! My teenage niece once baked cupcakes with olive oil because she didn't have vegetable on hand, and they were disgusting. The taste definitely dominates the other flavors. 1 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5556013
PradaKitty August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 As we know, Jill doesn’t have good taste so why should anything she makes taste good? 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5556034
lookeyloo August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Oldernowiser said: Olive oil? I have discovered that in box brownie mix olive oil gives a better outcome. Not that I am a fan of Jill’s recipes. 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5556066
QuinnInND August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 I've never heard of olive oil being used in cookies. I'll stick with butter when I make from scratch. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5556140
funky-rat August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 18 hours ago, PradaKitty said: Ever hear of a repair shop, kids? Eventually yes, they will need one because they likely need a new actuator (lost 2 in a car I previously owned), but in the interim, it takes 2 minutes to pop off the door panel, push the window up, and use a pair of vice grips to hold it in place, killing the need for the plastic. If the can't handle that, a rubber doorstop or two wedged under the window will hold it up (did that while we were travelling once). 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5556189
Jynnan tonnix August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, BitterApple said: My teenage niece once baked cupcakes with olive oil because she didn't have vegetable on hand, and they were disgusting. The taste definitely dominates the other flavors. There are certain recipes which it can be used in. There's a traditional Italian olive oil cake for one. I tried it recently during a family gathering at a restaurant - my foodie brother-in-law ordered it and was encouraging some of us to try it because so many were skeptical. I liked it, as did he (it also came with some lemon sorbet, which was a really nice combination), but no one else who was brave enough to try it cared for it at all. I suppose the olive oil could conceivably work in this recipe, but it would be a very different "brownie" flavor, and I don't see it as something which would appeal to everyone. 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5556233
Natalie68 August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 On 8/24/2019 at 8:24 PM, fonfereksglen said: Interesting. I will look at this from a different angle to see if I agree. Though Joy was so young we don't know when or if the lightbulb went on. I do agree that Jill is the age she was abused. Classic stuff when discussed with drugs, drinking and promiscuous behavior. I was bored this weekend and watched a lot of the X kids and counting eps. It was interesting to see with the knowledge and confirmation of the abuse. None of the girls had a light in their eyes. Josh seemed happy as a clam and the parents seemed so out of touch. Seeing poor Joy at that little age knowing what we know was very sad. And I got mad all over again. Fuck the adult Duggar's and fuck Josh. 17 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5556251
QuinnInND August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 41 minutes ago, funky-rat said: Eventually yes, they will need one because they likely need a new actuator (lost 2 in a car I previously owned), but in the interim, it takes 2 minutes to pop off the door panel, push the window up, and use a pair of vice grips to hold it in place, killing the need for the plastic. If the can't handle that, a rubber doorstop or two wedged under the window will hold it up (did that while we were travelling once). Also a piece of wood like a 2x4 will work too. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5556284
ginger90 August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 Seriously? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5556356
Popular Post jcbrown August 26, 2019 Popular Post Share August 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, ginger90 said: Seriously? That's just gross, Jill. And cut off that mop. 36 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5556366
Popular Post ozziemom August 26, 2019 Popular Post Share August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, ginger90 said: Seriously? That’s disgusting. Does she really think that’s a momprob? Or funny? Just when you think she can’t get more ridiculous, she posts something like this 🤦♀️ 34 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5556367
Popular Post Trillium August 26, 2019 Popular Post Share August 26, 2019 That is the grossest thing she’s ever posted, and that’s saying something considering her recipes and the fact we know waaaaaaaay too much about their sex life. 28 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5556418
QuinnInND August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 Ewwww!!!!!! One, throw the gum out. Two, she needs to cut about 18" off her crowning glory.. I mean that mess on her head. Three, how did Izzy get the gum in her hair in the first place? It belongs in his mouth or in the trash. It's not to play with. That's not a mom problem. She's nuts. As a side note, peanut butter will get gum off of stuff, including hair. I got back from picking my kids up from the first day of school. They were so happy to see me and Mr Quinn, and tell us all about their day. They haven't stopped talking yet. Especially my 3 year olds. They thought they were very grown up going to school. The look of happiness on their faces when we picked them up, and the happiness of them telling us about their day, is something that Izzy won't ever have. And that makes me sad. I've never seen him happy. But truly happy like my kids are. 19 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5556468
BetyBee August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 (edited) Ewwwww! That is disgusting! ETA - I just realized I should specify what is disgusting, since there are 2 recent Jill being disgusting convos going on! I'm referring to Izzy chewing the gum she found in her crowning glory mop. The olive oil is yucky, but I don't eat blond brownies anyway. Edited August 26, 2019 by BetyBee 1 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5556470
farmgal4 August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 6 hours ago, Oldernowiser said: Olive oil? She can say that it’s a “healthy snack” that way. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5556624
farmgal4 August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, jcbrown said: That's just gross, Jill. And cut off that mop. What’s even more gross is the fact that she let him put it back in his mouth after being in that rat’s nest. 19 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5556629
Oldernowiser August 26, 2019 Share August 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, farmgal4 said: She can say that it’s a “healthy snack” that way. She can try, but two cups of sugar? I haven’t made blondies in years but their flavor is based totally on the sugar caramelizing in butter. There really isn’t anything else in the recipe other than vanilla that gives it any flavor at all. So I can maybe see using olive oil for some other kind of dessert, but this? Fail. 1 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5556638
Popular Post doodlebug August 26, 2019 Popular Post Share August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, QuinnInND said: Ewwww!!!!!! One, throw the gum out. Two, she needs to cut about 18" off her crowning glory.. I mean that mess on her head. Three, how did Izzy get the gum in her hair in the first place? It belongs in his mouth or in the trash. It's not to play with. That's not a mom problem. She's nuts. As a side note, peanut butter will get gum off of stuff, including hair. I got back from picking my kids up from the first day of school. They were so happy to see me and Mr Quinn, and tell us all about their day. They haven't stopped talking yet. Especially my 3 year olds. They thought they were very grown up going to school. The look of happiness on their faces when we picked them up, and the happiness of them telling us about their day, is something that Izzy won't ever have. And that makes me sad. I've never seen him happy. But truly happy like my kids are. A friend's daughter started kindergarten last week. Her first question upon getting off the bus? 'How long is it until tomorrow when I can go back?' Oh, and she has 3 best friends at school and wants to go back to make more. I feel pain in my heart every time I see Izzy's sad little face. He needs friends his own age and adults in his life, other than his grandma Cathy, who care about him and his happiness. 26 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/991/#findComment-5556689
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