Vivigirl10

Exactly. And I think the operative words here are "try hard" because that's always how Danielle comes across to me. She seems to have this pretty level-headed side to her but the weird, try hard, loose cannon, desperate side always seems to dominate. Why does she always have to announce when she's had sex? It's gross. Gabby continues to act like a character and never a real person. She obviously thinks this is cute but I fail to see how she can have any friends or how she'll ever meet a guy carrying on with this schtick. There's no way to get to know a person who's acting like a walking caricature every moment. It's exhausting and annoying. Balloon guy looked dirty to me. Totally not getting what the fuss was all about. Gabby probably acted so snotty towards him because she got close enough to get a sniff. Actually - it seems like most everyone who attends their parties is pretty fugly. Anyone ever notice that? This is where West seems way too immature for Ciara. I think the way Ciara looks versus who she is as a person probably makes it really hard for her to meet and connect with the right person. In my opinion, the assumptions that are made about her because of how gorgeous she is are in pretty stark contrast to what her personality actually is. If that makes sense. (But I want to add - I don't think West is doing that to her).

It is such a betrayal! When you love someone, even if you're mad or frustrated with them, it's hard to talk bad about them. I guess at least in my personal experience. I would never want to humiliate or embarrass my husband. This leads me to one of two conclusions that I'm struggling with: either this break-up storyline is planned and totally fake (I don't think the whole relationship was, but that they planned for this to play out this season) or that Lindsay continues to prove herself to be an even shittier person than you thought she was ten seconds ago. The constant badmouthing that they've both been doing this whole season just doesn't sit right. I like Amanda. I like Kyle. I don't think they are right for each other. Were they ever? They clearly want to live their lives in very different ways. Neither seems to want to compromise to meet the other halfway. That can't work. I'm with Amanda in that what good can come out of being a married 40 year old man staying out partying, wasted, with people you may not know, in places you may not know, until 3 or 4 a.m. in the morning? I'm not just talking about cheating. That's just a worrisome scenario. I wanted to take Lindsay's wedding dress and yank it up about five inches on her chest. I'm also confused about the timeline here. She's obviously put on a little weight in the summer footage but in her talking heads she is super skinny. Those have to have been filmed after the fact? How does that work? Has anyone else noticed that? Why is no one watching and posting? This is still one of my favorite shows 😍

I thoroughly enjoyed this! It made me really sad but it was also such a wonderful tale of true friendship. Funny how personalities weather the storm in different ways. I'm sure Fab hardly escaped unscathed, but he kept on moving forward and appears to have such a lovely life now! He seems like a really, sweet man. The clip of him singing at the end was great - his voice sounded really developed and trained! Sadly, I think post-fame Rob would have had difficulty however that would have come about. Even if it happened in the more traditional way; where their music just naturally lost popularity and the crowds dwindled, it seems like he wouldn't have been able to transition out of being famous. That theme of this need for attention was too clear.

The fact that Lala paints herself as an innocent victim can barely be stomached. Anyone can go back and watch her proudly flaunting being Rand's mistress. Now she denies all that? Her complete lack of grace to Ariana when Sandoval is around knowing full well how she'd act if someone dragged Rand out is astounding (as many have noted). Katie and Schwartz's conversation by the pool hurling fashion insults at each other was cute. They were suppressing their laughter and that sure is way more fun to watch than all of the fighting. I'm team Ariana and it's honestly not so much because I like her but because I hate everyone else so much. To see Sandoval, Scheana and Lala get absolutely decimated and butt hurt over her success is worth it. Sandoval's weird expressions: from flat affect, far off gaze to insane, gap toothed smile are tailor made for Instagram parodies and I am loving it. The guy is a living, breathing joke. I feel like many times people have described him as always having held himself as so morally superior to everyone around him and it just makes all of this all the more classic.

I've been meaning to respond to your post since the beginning of the season. I feel duped too. I'm not sure I can take it so far as to say that none of it was real and they planned this right from the start, but man, this season just absolutely reeks of fake to me. I don't care if it's reality t.v., you don't fight and immediately split and bee line in opposite directions to tell whoever crosses your path what just happened. You respect your partner and your relationship that little? You're just flapping your private business all around? Again, I know it's a show and what they kind of have to do but this is excessive. It cannot be real. And I don't care how much the cast may hate both of them, especially Lindsey. It's a very difficult and delicate conversation to have with someone to basically ask them if they think they should call off their wedding. And yet conversations just casually start with....hey Carl.....so, ya think you should call this whole thing off? Yeah, not happening in real life.

I agree. I couldn't make it through this episode. They needed to bring the extra girl in for Brandon only. The others did not need a new addition at all. I felt like I had switched the channel and started watching "searching for sister wife". It was just giving a distinctly gross feeling instead of the silly, light-hearted show that it should be. I'm also sick of the guys standing around kicking rocks and saying to each other, "you do any kissin?" For real??!!! These are grown ass men!!

I think this was a total mid-game rules switch because Brandon has two duds. Joy imploded quite dramatically. Even before outing herself as a psychopath, Brandon asked her, "do you have any questions for me, anything you'd like to know?" And she says, "not really, what else would you like to know about me?" Wow. A narcissist too? Time to go bye bye, Joy. Mitchell has a good group to choose from. He does not need to bring another girl back. I'm digging Nathan and Taylor together. They are equal in their awkwardness. The girl they brought back for him seems like she could be a match too but the time has passed. I don't want her to stay. If Ty brings this lady back with him, I wouldn't be surprised if all of his gals walk out. And that's perfectly o.k. They are by far the most mature bunch and aren't going to put up with that. I kind of want to see if happen! I want Brandon to have a match so badly. This chick actually kind of reminded me of Reba personality wise! Yikes! Maybe Reba-lite, minus the crazy. Fingers crossed. He seemed to like her and he obviously has no one at home so it's a no brainer what he's going to do.

I love this too much - HA!! I have a love/hate relationship with Kristen. I also can't decide what kind of Mom she'd be. On one hand, I think she would be super loving and kind. On the other hand, I think she'd drive her daughter to fight another girl and then join in the fight. I crossed the street to avoid Lala and Scheana and they followed me. Ugh. When the wife in the toxic relationship saw her little girl with the bowl of ice cream she started chastising her like a grown adult, "Ummmm....are you going to have lunch first, I hope????". Please stop. You're mad that her Dad got her the ice cream, not her. She's at a party. Leave her alone. Gross. I'm sorry, I have a hard time even looking at Brittney. The fact that she'll address her double chin but not those Franken-tits means that she thinks they look good. Wow. THIS!!! It's not just these two. It's a total trend out there in the world right now, I notice it all the time. "Whenever we first met......" , "Whenever I moved into this house.....", "Whenever I started this job......". It needs to stop!!!

Honestly, I hate them all except for James and Ally, their pets and their little house by the airport. I like this happy James, if he can stay this way. Ally has just enough weird in her to keep me hopeful that she'll veer off in some interesting direction; she has potential beyond her pretty face. Give them a spin-off and ditch the rest of this sad sack crew. They are done, over, and far past their expiration date.

Is anyone planning on watching Happy Valley? Oh Lord, I'll go ahead and admit that I likely will tune in for that first episode to at least check it out. I don't know who anyone is beyond Kristen, Jax and Brittany (and by proxy, Brittany's gay friend). Is there going to be a thread for it? I 100% believe that these two crafted the tired, broken down, wash-rinse-repeat, cheating storyline. Well, let me rephrase that. Not for one minute do I think Jax has remained faithful but I don't think Brittany knows or else she willingly turns a blind eye. This is a storyline to bring attention to their new show. Did anyone see Brittany's "random" parking lot interview that she so graciously and extensively granted to that reporter she just happened to cross paths with? The acting was so bad I couldn't even watch. I don't know Brittany's intentions when she started down this path of reality t.v. and dating Jax. She did seem genuine to me in the beginning, mainly because every cast member really took to her immediately and seemed to honestly like her (and question what the heck she was doing with Jax). But once you join the grift train and you've got no work experience, no education and no employable skills to fall back on.....well, a girl's gotta grift. She's going to do whatever she needs to do to keep the money train going at this point. And that includes humiliating herself for a storyline over and over again apparently. I wonder at what point you start thinking about what that means to your child?

Every victim is sympathetic to some degree but oh my, this poor guy! He sounded like such an amazing young man, just living his life, on the verge of doing some great things and reaching major goals when he was just snuffed out. Just a helpless bystander to drama he had nothing to do with at all. Those parents took "but he's a good boy" to another level! I'm always sorry when ignorant fools like that are even given camera time to defend their obviously guilty as hell offspring. Their behavior as shown here likely had something to do with their son ending up a psychopath throwing the ultimate temper tantrum when he didn't get what he wanted. Me too! When they both kept repeating, "look at that! Look at that! It's so obviously not the same person!" When anyone with two eyes can see it obviously was the same person. Dennis was pulling faces but I too wish he had just come out and said it.

Yet another odd example of the cameras being conveniently absent from a supposedly life-changing night. It makes NO sense. Even if they had the night off, you're telling me one of the cast wasn't jumping on the horn telling producers to call the cameras out there asap?? Nice guy but why was he so horribly sweaty and disheveled? Even after they got inside it appeared he couldn't get it under control. It made me uncomfortable to watch and it looked like it made Ciera uncomfortable too! It's kind of pitiful to see how quickly Danielle appears eager to jump back into her old role while Lindsey could obviously give two shits. And why did Gabby feel she was in any position to try to foster a truce between Lindsey and Paige? Paige was having none of it. Those two just need to coexist like you would with any co-worker you can't stand. It makes me sad that Gabby has lowered herself to being Lindsey's little "yes" man. Why do these bully/mean girls always have supporters? The cat's out of the bag on Lindsey's game and everyone's over her BS so Gabby's support and having one measly gang member literally means nothing. But the fact that Lindsey has even one person still hanging around her is astounding to me.

OMG Scheana, get a frickin' grip. She is totally insufferable. You have a child and a husband and a life of your own, go focus on all of that. Contrary to how you are trying to commandeer this situation, Sandoval cheated on Ariana, not on YOU. This hysteria is not at all in line with whatever you feel this douchebag has "done" to you. The fact that she turned to Ariana to console her pain made my jaw drop. What an absolute self-centered moron. Lala is now willing to give Tom grace that he made a mistake and he shouldn't be crucified day in and day out. Ok, Lala, now let's secretly switch the name Sandoval with the name Rand.....how do you feel now? Does the sentiment still hold? Can Ariana tell you to give Rand some grace? Talk about a hypocrite. At this point, I'd be excited to watch a show with just James, Ally and Hippie Graham.

I don't understand how the other guys have a pretty nice selection of girls (a good variety of looks, careers, personalities....all in a positive way) and Brandon got stuck with this bunch of odd balls? Annalyse (spelling?) seemed like a nice girl but every time she was interviewed it was obvious she was not a personality match for him. There's the really benign one who had a one-on-one date who looks different every time she's shown. She's a completely different person when she's standing or sitting, or wearing her glasses, and I have no idea what her name could possibly be. And then there's Joy, who is apparently living in the 1970's as a brunette Farrah Fawcett and I'm starting to believe doesn't have 2 brain cells in her head, as beautiful as her hair may be. The one who got kicked off who can go back to the trailer park now and then good ole' stalker, looney tunes, Reba ("a beer" spelled backwards, except it really isn't). Brandon seems like the warmest and nicest of the farmers and I feel really bad that he honestly has never had anyone to choose from from the start.

It's too hard to suspend disbelief for this show. I am struggling to recall this "FIFTY YEARS of being the absolute ride or die best friends with Tom Sandoval" theme that Scheana keeps throwing out every other minute. What?? You mean, he's been your co-worker and best friend's boyfriend, right? Because that is correct. But I don't think anyone has ever seen anything separate from that to indicate this lay down your life friendship with him that she is suddenly intent on portraying. It's highly annoying. If this were real life and she was doing this to her true best friend, Ariana, then Ariana should and would immediately dump her. Also, what is up with Scheana's mouth? Is it just because she is so skinny that her mouth looks disproportionately huge these days? She's doing this thing where she's pulling down her lower lip to expose her bottom teeth. I don't remember her doing all these mouth gymnastics in the past. She's also going to be apparently looking for her third husband in the very near future. Yeah, I guess I'm over it all. And from my above post, just way too much Scheana.