Zella September 12, 2018 Share September 12, 2018 5 hours ago, Lunera said: There is a thread on reddit from someone who supposedly has class with Derdick. Thank you! 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4666214
Trillium September 12, 2018 Share September 12, 2018 5 hours ago, Lunera said: There is a thread on reddit from someone who supposedly has class with Derdick. The classmate has been verified, so they are indeed a classmate of his. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4666217
questionfear September 12, 2018 Share September 12, 2018 9 hours ago, mythoughtis said: To be fair ... raise your hand if you have ever wondered if TLC stands for Trashy Lifestyles Channel? It used to be The Learning Channel when it first existed. I've heard it called The Loony Caucasian. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4666424
louannems September 12, 2018 Share September 12, 2018 On 9/10/2018 at 2:56 AM, floridamom said: I thought it disgusting to have the can of fruit on the table like that. There was no 'table setting' for the meal either. I felt like I was watching 4 separate people eating. They do not eat their meals 'together as a family unit'. I also found it sad that Sam has to feed himself with his fingers. Sorry, but when my sons were 1 year old, I fed them from a dish with a baby spoon. Israel needed a smaller fork too. Why is he still wearing a bib? If he were taught how to properly feed himself, at 3 yrs old, he wouldn't be proficient yet, of course, but he would have better table manners. I agree that putting the kids out on the ends of the table as they did makes it seem like they are not 'included'. Jill also needs to quit bothering her children when they are trying to eat by having them speak with their mouths full. What the heck is wrong with that dimwit? Dinner time is NOT the time to film entertaining-speaking videos. The kids need to concentrate on eating. Don't forget, Jill is the same MOTY who allowed her toddler Izzy to drink tomato SAUCE straight from the tin can! 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4666766
lascuba September 12, 2018 Share September 12, 2018 4 hours ago, questionfear said: I've heard it called The Loony Caucasian. Oh, that's just perfect! I'll never think of it as anything else. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4667148
Popular Post rainclouds September 12, 2018 Popular Post Share September 12, 2018 Jill has hit a new low. 40 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4667631
Popular Post libgirl2 September 12, 2018 Popular Post Share September 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, rainclouds said: Jill has hit a new low. For the love of God! Let the guy take his classes! And Derick, no she should not be in class with you. Grow some and tell her so! 67 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4667638
Popular Post Westiepeach September 12, 2018 Popular Post Share September 12, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, rainclouds said: Jill has hit a new low. Oh, FFS. Seriously? I am dizzy from shaking my head. LEAVE HIM ALONE JILLY! STAY HOME! Sheesh. Jessa - STOP ENABLING! Do not babysit!!! Edited September 12, 2018 by Westiepeach 52 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4667640
Popular Post graefin September 12, 2018 Popular Post Share September 12, 2018 Which dozen of you guys called it first? Haha. Hahahahahahahahahaha. Sorry. I can't stop laughing about this. She went to class with him and they actually posted a picture of it to Instagram. 84 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4667642
Popular Post Picture It. Sicily September 12, 2018 Popular Post Share September 12, 2018 (edited) Must have been exciting. Hours of talk about things she's far too ignorant to comprehend. Derrick focused on his work. How is this "making time for each other"? They can't possibly be interacting. Man, I hope his Prof tears him a new one. Edited September 12, 2018 by Picture It. Sicily 45 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4667669
Popular Post xwordfanatik September 12, 2018 Popular Post Share September 12, 2018 Oh fuck. And the professor allows this? Unbelievable. Except for the posters here that saw it coming. 30 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4667670
Temperance September 12, 2018 Share September 12, 2018 I don't really blame Jill, and I certainly don't blame Jessa. It must have been Derick's idea or suggestion. He most likely had to clear with his professor or someone. He had to decide this was feasible. It is unusual to say the least. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4667676
Picture It. Sicily September 12, 2018 Share September 12, 2018 I don't believe for a second this was Derrick's idea. He's not human saran wrap. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4667688
Popular Post SMama September 12, 2018 Popular Post Share September 12, 2018 I knew it! When I saw the video of Izzy playing with Spud and Hank I wondered if Jilly Clingy was at school with Derelict. My husband fractured his right wrist when we were in grad school. I was his note taker (time permitting) for a very long six weeks. He is a very meticulous note taker and I was the only person familiar with his system. It completely threw off my study schedule. I only attended his classes because it beat listening to the recording in the evening and taking notes while tired. No regrets but there was a reason for my presence. Sometimes being right makes me stabby. Way to go JB and MEchelle, you managed to screw up 19 kids, none of your married children are capable of functioning on their own. What a pair of malignant narcissists. 27 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4667724
Sew Sumi September 12, 2018 Share September 12, 2018 I was wondering where Jill was when Jessa shot that video of Izzy and her kids on the slide yesterday. No annoying "Yaaaaays!" in the background. 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4667726
queenanne September 12, 2018 Share September 12, 2018 44 minutes ago, graefin said: Which dozen of you guys called it first? Haha. Hahahahahahahahahaha. Sorry. I can't stop laughing about this. She went to class with him and they actually posted a picture of it to Instagram. 31 minutes ago, Picture It. Sicily said: Must have been exciting. Hours of talk about things she's far too ignorant to comprehend. Derrick focused on his work. How is this "making time for each other"? They can't possibly be interacting. Man, I hope his Prof tears him a new one. Yeah, I'm too busy laughing wondering what it was like for her as audience. Also, we should be prepared to consider, the likelihood that Jilly Muffin is going to actually sit there and listen to the professor instead of searching Instagram is very non(likely). How much do you want to bet she'll be surfing Pinterest and Twitter on a device next to him, further distracting him from the lecture? 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4667741
Popular Post 3 is enough September 12, 2018 Popular Post Share September 12, 2018 Oh, FFS! Not surprised but, still, FFS. That's all I have... 39 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4667742
ginger90 September 12, 2018 Share September 12, 2018 (edited) I can’t believe it, and can believe it, all at the same time. This comment on the post was good: Seriously..that is as bad as sitting in the parking lot at work...she needs a hobby There were others, such as, It’s Walmart all over again. Of course there are those that think it’s just wonderful. ? I wonder if the student that went on reddit has anything to say about it? Bring your study buddy to class day? And again with the “no kids”. Keep it on your pants, Derick. Edited September 12, 2018 by ginger90 21 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4667746
Popular Post Lunera September 12, 2018 Popular Post Share September 12, 2018 This is soooo pathetic. Get a hobby, Jill! 28 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4667758
Popular Post queenanne September 12, 2018 Popular Post Share September 12, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, ginger90 said: I can’t believe it, and can believe it, all at the same time. This comment on the post was good: Seriously..that is as bad as sitting in the parking lot at work...she needs a hobby There were others, such as, It’s Walmart all over again. Of course there are those that think it’s just wonderful. ? OK, you guys have won me over... I no longer think that some of you might have been (wait for it!)... assuming facts not in evidence. I now absolutely agree that Jill is (a), specifically requesting Derick to take her along as an accountability buddy everywhere he goes like "Mommy" did with "Peepaw"; she is (b), nonstop worried about him having an affair with these female classmates if she's not sitting in his lap, hence the nonstop readings on adultery; and (c), nobody's forcing Derick into it because he likes it, because Silly Jilly is the first woman who ever looked at him with anything approaching interest. Edited September 12, 2018 by queenanne 35 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4667769
ginger90 September 12, 2018 Share September 12, 2018 Is that laptop he’s using an Apple? 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4667773
Popular Post graefin September 12, 2018 Popular Post Share September 12, 2018 "Alone time." In class. In grad school. And it hasn't even been a month since school started. Hahahaha (still laughing). Poor, stunted Jill. When will she grow up? She already has two children. Do they really think this is normal adult behavior? 40 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4667775
Lunera September 12, 2018 Share September 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, ginger90 said: Is that laptop he’s using an Apple? Yes, a few of the couples added mac laptops on their wedding registry. Jessa has one, too. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4667794
LexieLily September 12, 2018 Share September 12, 2018 The class(es) must be horribly boring for her to sit through, if she is actually listening to anything. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4667804
Popular Post jcbrown September 12, 2018 Popular Post Share September 12, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, graefin said: "Alone time." In class. In grad school. And it hasn't even been a month since school started. Hahahaha (still laughing). Poor, stunted Jill. When will she grow up? She already has two children. Do they really think this is normal adult behavior? This. He has a very screwed up definition of "alone time." Although I do wonder if @queenanne nailed it and he is taking her along as an accountability buddy, lest his virile maleness inspire the female students to be overcome and rip off their clothes, begging, "take me, Dillweed!" Eyew, I just made myself a bit sick there. Edited September 12, 2018 by jcbrown accidentally quoted myself 34 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4667833
Popular Post BitterApple September 12, 2018 Popular Post Share September 12, 2018 (edited) You have GOT to be kidding me. Really, Jill? Good grief, woman. Get a life. Also, a huge virtual drippy chocolate mess to whichever poster predicted this would happen. The only positive thing I can say is it was probably a relief for Sam and Iz to get a couple hours of playtime away from their looney parents. Edited September 12, 2018 by BitterApple 51 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4667849
Popular Post CalicoKitty September 12, 2018 Popular Post Share September 12, 2018 On 9/7/2018 at 3:59 PM, nan said: sorry I don't know to delete this box Please ignore the posting above. The box was stuck on my screen. I would be most unhappy if I was paying for my classes and someone was bringing a "buddy" with them to attend the classes for no cost. Let alone the distraction. This is just wrong. 28 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4667867
lascuba September 12, 2018 Share September 12, 2018 HAHAHAHAHAHA I really didn't think this would actually happen but I'm so glad it did because I needed that laugh! What dipshits. Best case scenario, she was just there before lecture started and they only saw each other between classes. And that's still ridiculous. I could sort of almost understand going to his job at Walmart multiple times a day, because they were newly married and didn't actually know each other before the wedding. But now? WTF is wrong them? 18 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4667878
Popular Post MargeGunderson September 12, 2018 Popular Post Share September 12, 2018 (edited) Nothing says serious law student like bringing your spouse to class. That demonstrates just the kind of excellent judgment that I’m looking for in a lawyer, nay a judge! Edited September 12, 2018 by MargeGunderson 74 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4667879
Popular Post floridamom September 12, 2018 Popular Post Share September 12, 2018 Oh, my, oh my. What the heck is wrong with both of these morons? Jill seems incapable of being a person in her own right without her 'best hubby evah' by her side. Someone, please tell me that universities don't allow non-students to attend class? That can't be. What does Jill do; sit with DDD before classes start, then gets up and waits for him in the hall to 'smooch in the hallways' in between classes? The maturity of 15 year olds...both of them. I truly don't believe that Derick will do well in graduate school....he has too many distractions. I agree that Jilly has hit a new low attending school with DDD. Unbelievable. 29 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4667884
Popular Post SMama September 12, 2018 Popular Post Share September 12, 2018 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Lunera said: This is soooo pathetic. Get a hobby, Jill! Jill is a SAHM of a one year old, and a three year old. Jilly Clingy should be damn well busy. SGirl is eleven and I’m busy as hell as a SAHM. Chauffer duties, homework, swim practice, and quality one on one time take a lot of my day. Then there is the normal household duties, cooking, running errands. Since I’m a glutton for punishment I volunteer counseling parents of adopted children who are gobsmacked when everything isn’t rainbows and puppies. Why in the world is she following Derelict to school? Edited September 12, 2018 by SMama 30 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4667890
Popular Post Trillium September 13, 2018 Popular Post Share September 13, 2018 (edited) At least they are sitting in the back but that could be in hopes of the professor doesn’t notice she’s there. I seriously cannot imagine a law school professor giving the ok for a spouse to sit in class for funsies. And if he didn’t get approval, what a dumb ass. First to do it and then to post it on Instagram. I can’t imagine how that’s going to go over with his cohorts. I went to grad school and no way could I have focused on the lecture if my spouse was sitting next to me. He wouldn’t have the slightest idea what was being said and I would instinctively try to make sure they were at least not bored out of their minds. Which is why people don’t go on dates at their spouses class. These two have done a lot of dumb as fuck stuff, but this one gets the prize. Between his fake studying, and taking Jilly to class, he really isn’t taking this seriously at all. Between him and Jeremy I’m not sure who’s the bigger poser. Edited September 13, 2018 by Trillium 31 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4667904
madpsych78 September 13, 2018 Share September 13, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, floridamom said: Someone, please tell me that universities don't allow non-students to attend class? That can't be. So my husband is a teaching fellow at a university and invited me to attend one of his lectures. I turned him down (I'm not a student at his school.) My first thought when I saw the pic Derick posted: Edited September 13, 2018 by madpsych78 Jill didn't post the picture to IG; Derick did. 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4667914
Popular Post cdp73 September 13, 2018 Popular Post Share September 13, 2018 A better caption would have been "Jilly's first day of real school." Good grief, these people have no shame. 32 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4667920
PradaKitty September 13, 2018 Share September 13, 2018 Well, obviously nobody invited Derrick into their study group so Jill has to be his study group(ie)! He’s never graduating.... 17 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4667942
toodles September 13, 2018 Share September 13, 2018 2 hours ago, rainclouds said: Jill has hit a new low. Are you f* "" ing kidding me? 23 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4667943
Popular Post PradaKitty September 13, 2018 Popular Post Share September 13, 2018 Jill should be at home—washing her filthy hair. 30 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4667947
bigskygirl September 13, 2018 Share September 13, 2018 (edited) UGH!!! Don't get me wrong, I love my husband, but I would not want him to go to class with me. He needs his alone time, and I need my alone time. My husband and I at one time worked at the same place. We were not allowed to work at the same time because other couples were taking advantage of it by spending their time by not doing their job. We use to joke around when we had work related training or staff meetings, but we took our jobs seriously and did a good job. In the case of Deredick and Jilly Girl, I am not surprised. I still cannot believe she thinks one of his fellow female students would hit on him. Edited September 13, 2018 by bigskygirl Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4667968
Popular Post QuinnInND September 13, 2018 Popular Post Share September 13, 2018 I'm speechless. And that's saying something. I can't believe she's allowed to sit there with Dillweed in class. If I was the professor, I would have tossed her out on her ear and admonished Dillweed to never bring her again. When my husband and I got married, he was in pilot training in the Air Force. He was in classes constantly. I would never have thought to go with him. Was it hard? Yes. I was on my own in a way I never had been before. But I sucked it up and found stuff to do. Smh. Jilly is hopeless. 25 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4667973
ginger90 September 13, 2018 Share September 13, 2018 Someone asked Derick when he’s getting his braces off. He replied that he hopes by graduation. I still can’t believe she’s was with him in class........ 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4667977
Rabbittron September 13, 2018 Share September 13, 2018 I can't wait until the professor and that the first test to Jill. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4667978
babyhouseman September 13, 2018 Share September 13, 2018 Mary Had a Little Lamb is going through my head. Derek is Mary, and Jill is the Lamb. 18 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4667990
Popular Post Sew Sumi September 13, 2018 Popular Post Share September 13, 2018 I hope that this is the class that Reddit Guy is in. I'd love to hear what he has to say about this. 43 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4668007
louannems September 13, 2018 Share September 13, 2018 The first time I was a college student, I dropped out my second year and joined the Air Force. Home on leave, I went to visit my favorite cousin in Seattle. She was just on her way to the University of Washington and invited me to tag along with her. It was a huge auditorium filled with hundreds of students in an English 101 class. No one paid me any mind whatsoever. But I'm sure law classes are much smaller and Jill probably stood out. Jill needs to go to community college and get her RN degree. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4668040
Popular Post MargeGunderson September 13, 2018 Popular Post Share September 13, 2018 (edited) I occasionally teach a graduate level class and we were not to have unenrolled people sit in on classes. I find it odd that it would be allowed at law school. I’m sure this is not giving people a good impression of Derick (and he didn’t need any help in that department.) I’m going to bet that Derick and Jill are going to have a hard time with the idea of attorney-client privilege. Someone’s going to have to break it to them that Jill can’t sit in on client meetings. Edited September 13, 2018 by MargeGunderson 48 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4668058
3 is enough September 13, 2018 Share September 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, louannems said: Jill needs to go to community college and get her RN degree. I highly doubt her SOTDRT education gave her the necessary prerequisites for a community college nursing program. 20 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4668070
bigskygirl September 13, 2018 Share September 13, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, louannems said: The first time I was a college student, I dropped out my second year and joined the Air Force. Home on leave, I went to visit my favorite cousin in Seattle. She was just on her way to the University of Washington and invited me to tag along with her. It was a huge auditorium filled with hundreds of students in an English 101 class. No one paid me any mind whatsoever. But I'm sure law classes are much smaller and Jill probably stood out. Jill needs to go to community college and get her RN degree. Jill does not have the mindset and people skills to be a nurse. We can blame her idiot parents for her poor education skills, but I do not see Jill becoming a nurse ever. She would need to grow up and stop acting like a ditzy teenage girl. Edited September 13, 2018 by bigskygirl Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4668077
Popular Post ThinkerBell September 13, 2018 Popular Post Share September 13, 2018 Jill has to be the clingiest clinger that ever clinged. I'm somewhat embarrassed for her, but mostly appalled at her obvious immaturity. 40 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4668102
bigskygirl September 13, 2018 Share September 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, ThinkerBell said: Jill has to be the clingiest clinger that ever clinged. I'm somewhat embarrassed for her, but mostly appalled at her obvious immaturity. I know women who are like Jill. They think their boyfriend or husband are cheating on them, all women are out to take their husband or boyfriend away from them, cannot spend five minutes away from their husband or boyfriend, etc. etc. It comes down to low self esteem and the constant need for love and affection. To the majority of them, bad love is better than no love. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4668127
Christina87 September 13, 2018 Share September 13, 2018 I'm appalled too!!! I saw this on Instagram and immediately came here to see the snark. This is unbelievable!!! Whyyyyy would Jessa agree to babysit, for one thing? I could see her telling Bin why Jill's kids were here in a snarky, eye-rolling way, because she knows better. I could just hear her saying, "they needed alone time," while keeping sweet, but with a judgy overtone, and I would be thrilled to hear it! Wish it would be on the show. In fact, in the old days, I would have assumed this was a stunt for the show to make everyone see how busy Derick is. The fact that it's not a lame storyline is scary. Heck, I don't even like going to a MOVIE on a date (unless it's a long-term BF, pre kids, or something you're dying to see) because you don't really interact. It's a total waste of "alone time" if "alone time" is at all scarce. What are they THINKING?! And count me in on surmising that this was Jilly's idea. I really, REALLY halfway wonder if Derick was trolling her with his "gotta find alone time when you can get it" caption, just like I think he was with, "this [diagusting] burrito includes all five food groups!" I almost hope he was trolling, because that would show some intelligence, but at the same time, I hope he wasn't...because dude, you chose to marry this ignorant girl without having more than a five-minute conversation, so you have forfeited the right to complain! 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/791/#findComment-4668144
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