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Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!


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Shout out to everyone participating in the conversation about Jill’s miscarriage/stillbirth. You’re navigating a difficult topic with respect and thoughtfulness and your contributions are kind, considerate, constructive and informative. 

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33 minutes ago, Christina87 said:

Ok I've got a legit question. If they can't watch a movie with kissing, why is it okay to post kissing pictures on social media? Wouldn't that defraud poor jana if she saw it? What if jana decided she wanted to stare at it for an hour to try to figure out how to kiss? What if some 13-year-old fan finds it thrilling, and it stirs up desires that can't be righteously fulfilled? Seriously, why are kissing pictures okay????!!!!

also, how can they watch their favorite movie, the sound of music? The captain and Maria have quite a mushy kissing scene, which happens before they are married!

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They're Jim Boob and Mechelle Jr. Izzy, Sam, and any future children will see them pretend humping on a minigolf course. 

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43 minutes ago, Christina87 said:

Ok I've got a legit question. If they can't watch a movie with kissing, why is it okay to post kissing pictures on social media?

The issue is that the actors aren't married, even if the characters are. That's why holier-than-you Kirk Cameron insists on having his wife switched out for the actress playing his wife if he has to kiss someone in his movies. As for why Sound of Music is okay...typical Duggar hypocrisy. 

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6 hours ago, floridamom said:

Have Jill or Derick ever said why it is that she follows him on his 'mission' trips? She seems to be the only spouse that goes along; I'm sure he's not the only guide/instructor/adult/chaperone sent to watch over those college students. No one else brings along their whole family. It has to cost them a pretty penny to do so. Part of me thinks it's because Jill is NOT capable of living on her own with her two children. She has to have another adult with her and none of her sisters want to babysit HER. I also think it may be part of their upbringing that spouses should NOT be separated if at all possible. 

So, the CC Mission Manual may or not have been posted online and I think part of the reason Jilly goes may be directed related to page 7...

"It is worth pointing out that in most cases, The more participants a team has, the lower each individual’s cost will be. So inviting several of your friends to go on the mission journey with you not only encourages them to be a part of this life changing experience with you, it also can lower your cost!"

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7 minutes ago, Loves2Dance said:

So, the CC Mission Manual may or not have been posted online and I think part of the reason Jilly goes may be directed related to page 7...

I think that explains more why CC allows her to tag along. While it lowers the cost per person, they're still having to pay for two or more people (depending on children), which isn't saving money. Plus, in any church outing I've been on that required hotel rooms, same sex singles shared a room., which also saves money. Derek and Jill require a room together, so they're spending even more for Jill to go.

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1 minute ago, Nysha said:

I think that explains more why CC allows her to tag along. While it lowers the cost per person, they're still having to pay for two or more people (depending on children), which isn't saving money. Plus, in any church outing I've been on that required hotel rooms, same sex singles shared a room., which also saves money. Derek and Jill require a room together, so they're spending even more for Jill to go.

But are they smart enough to realize that it costs them more? Not sure... They probably argue that it's cheaper than taking a separate family vacation or something ridiculous...

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2 hours ago, Christina87 said:

Ok I've got a legit question. If they can't watch a movie with kissing, why is it okay to post kissing pictures on social media? Wouldn't that defraud poor jana if she saw it? What if jana decided she wanted to stare at it for an hour to try to figure out how to kiss? What if some 13-year-old fan finds it thrilling, and it stirs up desires that can't be righteously fulfilled? Seriously, why are kissing pictures okay????!!!!

also, how can they watch their favorite movie, the sound of music? The captain and Maria have quite a mushy kissing scene, which happens before they are married!

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Why the hell do these two feel such a need to demonstrate their  "love"  or  "affection"  to the world?   In all honesty, Derick looks as though he is holding his breath to just get through til the camera clicks.   So GROSS!!!   No one wants to see that, and I guaran-fuckin-tee you that no one is jealous or inspired by it.  

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Dwreck is vile, both of them. They are right up there on  my personal hatelist, with Smuggar. What is it with Jill that she can't leave her grifter drifter husband alone for 10 seconds? I think apart from having obvious issues, deep down she is afraid that he would stray and I sincerely believe that he would - afterwards he would feel guilt and shame and anger and probably unleash a tirade on Twitter, but stray he would. He wants to be footloose and fancy free, drift through life without working.

Has anyone seen Pickles latest diatribe about why she bans people? That woman is SERIOUSLY unhinged. She keeps claiming that Jazz hasn't seen her message probably. Wake up bitch, yes she has, she's simply not interested. Plus, I've also tweeted that poor girl to make her aware of this, as I think she has grounds for an injunction against that crazy fool.

As for her recipes, well, from what I've seen it's all junk or unappetising. She just can't put effort into anything. Taking photos, cooking, cleaning, taking care of her poor children....

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2 hours ago, tabloidlover said:

Why the hell do these two feel such a need to demonstrate their  "love"  or  "affection"  to the world?   In all honesty, Derick looks as though he is holding his breath to just get through til the camera clicks.   So GROSS!!!   No one wants to see that, and I guaran-fuckin-tee you that no one is jealous or inspired by it.  

Right?! They both (especially Derelict) look like they haven’t even learned how to REALLY kiss, despite being married for several years. 

Makes me wonder how they figured out how to conceive two kids!  (I can’t decide if I’m even serious or joking about that part!)

What kind of Mom forgets to pack their son’s gloves or doesn’t grab a replacement pair upon landing? Most people check the weather forecast prior to travel and are prepared for shit like “the weather requires mittens.” I’ll bet Dr. Wannabe Medicine Woman & Derelict have gloves. 

 

These people! Grrrrr!!!!

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I came across this on a show business gossip blog:

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Since no one asked, there is trouble in Duggarland. The dim-witted SIL, Derick, is attacking TLC and Jazz (he has a thing for attacking children, like the Parkland survivors.) We all know this. TLC cut him and his wife/holy servant out of the show for it, but Dim Derick persists to this day. Some are saying that Dim Derick is doing this in an attempt to get more money out of a)supporters who he is leaching for his religious tourism b) to please JimBob who holds all of Jill's money in an LLC. In fact, the rumor is that JimBob controls all the funds the girls made by "writing" their book and the proceeds from their current show, doling out the money to their headship (husbands) as he sees fit. Derick is actually angry about this arrangement and is blaming TLC for it, as they create the contracts for JimBob's control, but dare not blame JimBob for this weird financial arrangement.

Interesting, if true.

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All the flying they have done, and this is the highest altitude they have kissed?

You know you’re a (shitty) mother when you walk over an hour for chicken, and don’t bother getting gloves or mittens for your child. Derick has a warm hat on, though.

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9 hours ago, Nysha said:

I think that explains more why CC allows her to tag along. While it lowers the cost per person, they're still having to pay for two or more people (depending on children), which isn't saving money. Plus, in any church outing I've been on that required hotel rooms, same sex singles shared a room., which also saves money. Derek and Jill require a room together, so they're spending even more for Jill to go.

Yeah, it only saves money if you're splitting the bill amongst strangers, like if you get 12 single people for your singleton friend's restaurant dinner party, as opposed to a default of four, which would mean each individual member in the group paid more.  Cost x2 for people who share a bank account, isn't any kind of savings.

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Jill and Derick tweeted exactly the same:

From their new direction site:

 

Birthday note to Israel:

Israel David,

We are so grateful to God for you, and we love you very much! You are a very sweet boy with an inquisitive personality. We love seeing you help little Sam; you are such a good big brother. We pray you grow to love Jesus with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength and that you love and serve others!

Love,

Papa and Mama

Aaaand.....

It’s hard to believe that our firstborn is already turning three! He has been asking about his next birthday cake ever since his second birthday. This time he said he wanted blue cake, with blue icing and blue sprinkles, so he was able to help momma make part of his cake. Since we were going to be in Colorado on a missions trip over his birthday, we celebrated with family early. He even had a blue Paw Patrol piñata (thanks to Mima) that he got to bust open with friends and family.

 

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59 minutes ago, nittanyvolleyball said:

I'm cracking up over the commentor who said "ya'll didn't kiss on the airplane on your honeymoon?" and Derelict said they didn't fly that high...dude airplanes fly at 30k feet...how dumb can you be?

That's a rhetorical question, right?   

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35 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

 He even had a blue Paw Patrol piñata (thanks to Mima) that he got to bust open with friends and family.

 

He knows about Paw Patrol?? Color me surprised.  Not that there's anything at all wrong (my daughter loves it!) but I thought it would be nothing but Veggie Tales and devotionals for this kid.  

I hope he gets to watch the show.  That poor child needs something normal.

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14 hours ago, Christina87 said:

Ok I've got a legit question. If they can't watch a movie with kissing, why is it okay to post kissing pictures on social media? Wouldn't that defraud poor jana if she saw it? What if jana decided she wanted to stare at it for an hour to try to figure out how to kiss? What if some 13-year-old fan finds it thrilling, and it stirs up desires that can't be righteously fulfilled? Seriously, why are kissing pictures okay????!!!!

also, how can they watch their favorite movie, the sound of music? The captain and Maria have quite a mushy kissing scene, which happens before they are married!

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Is this their version of fundy porn?  They certainly are exhibitionists aren't they?  Of course they learned from the best.  In the 28 years I have been with my husband I have NEVER taken a pic like that.  Cause I mean who really wants to see it?  No one is begging for pics of us (or anyone!) kissing.  FFS, get a room. 

If they are in Colorado they could be getting high on something in addition to love!  Wonder what their thoughts are on marijuana?  It might just help loosen the giant stick up Dickweed's ass.

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I'll give them a pass on the sippy cups. I keep them here for my 4 yr old grandson. He wants to take a glass of drink away from the table so I put it in a sippy cup to prevent spills on the furniture and rugs.

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17 hours ago, Christina87 said:

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1.      This kiss is such a miss.  They aren't even near each other's lips.

2.      Jill needs to lose that ridiculous hairpiece that she has to tie on her head to keep it from being blown away in the wind.

3.      Derick, does this picture look like it is of someone on a missionary trip?

4.      Derick, do you realize that when you go to apply for a real job as a missionary or as a minister that potential employers will evaluate your social media posts?  You are supposed to be in Colorado Springs as a serious ministry student, not as a PDA contestant.

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45 minutes ago, Temperance said:

Wait since when is there favorite movie The Sound of Music? It's all about Catholics. 

They said it way back in probably their first season. Hahahahaha that is so funny though! Such a good point!!!

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3 hours ago, 3 is enough said:

Ok. I'm going to be that mother...

He's 3.  He's appears to be on the higher end of the growth scale.  And he is still in a high chair, and has a sippy cup and an uncomfortable looking plastic bib?

My kids are 2 years apart.  By the time the new baby needed the high chair (around 5-6 months) they were at the table in a booster seat.  Partly because I only had one highchair, and partly because it was time.  When they were big enough to sit at the table, they had regular (child sized) glasses.  Because they had to learn to drink like big kids.  Did we have spills?  Of course, but it is part of the learning process. I think the bibs stopped at that time too- maybe occasionally when we had something that stained like tomato sauce. Certainly not the plastic contraption designed for babies learning to feed themselves. Again, if you are old enough to sit at the table, you are old enough to eat without smearing your food everywhere.

Jill and Derick read books about government and finance to Israel, yet treat him like a baby at meal times. SMH. 

I'm not a mother, but I saw that ridiculous bib (and other "baby" items) thought the same exact thing!

"This time he said he wanted blue cake, with blue icing and blue sprinkles..."

So if Israel specifically asked for a blue cake, why is his cake green?  That's not the same as a "blue cake, blue icing and blue sprinkles." I also don't see any sprinkles, but maybe they're hard to see on top of the frosting? Or, Derelict thought sprinkles weren't "for boys", so they were nixed. Poor kid. 

Anyone else feel like sending Jill a copy of Sesame Street episodes with the "One of these things is not like the other" segments? Too bad Sesame Street is banned in their house because it's way more educational than any of the crap that is learned at Jill's eventual SOTDRT. 

I just realized (I know, I know) how incredibly isolated so many of these kids are, especially after seeing the photos of the Dullard boys.

I wonder if Israel has any play dates or has any other friends who aren't Spurgeon, Sam or the Dullards?

In an odd way, I'm seriously shocked and sad that some young wealthy Fundie mom (can "wealthy" and "fundie" even be used in the same sentence?) hasn't created a Mommy & Me class or some other type of pre-school fellowship group (hahaha!) that is designed for each developmental age group to encourage (drinking game word -  take a shot!) the little ones to fellowship. 

I guess there's a part of me that hopes that a young Fundie mom or three know(s) "what's out in the real world" and that they would somehow try to raise their own kiddos as fundies, but also provide options that they never had the option of participating in for both the kids and other "modern moms in their world. "

The kids & moms would be able to fellowship (drink!) while still providing some much needed brain stimulation for everyone. They could rotate hosts and have their own version of Mommy & Me or group play dates that incorporate singing songs, coloring, crafts or even participating in athletic activities like jumping on a trampoline.

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1 hour ago, Luvmy300zx said:

I'll give them a pass on the sippy cups. I keep them here for my 4 yr old grandson. He wants to take a glass of drink away from the table so I put it in a sippy cup to prevent spills on the furniture and rugs.

I evaluate many kids who are Israel's age (late 2/early 3) who have either come from early intervention or have not passed their screenings to be considered for early childhood services within the public school system. It's very common for kiddos to drink from sippy cups at this age. I do have to agree on the high chair though, especially for a child of Israel's height, which I am presuming is taller than the average same-aged peer. We have had plenty of kids who could sit in a child-sized version of a regular chair. Israel should be graduating to a booster seat. 

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it's Izzy's 3rd birthday, so does that mean he has to thank Jill for risking her life giving birth to him? Or does she apologize for almost killing him? Or do they celebrate that he survived abortion, but abortion wont survive him? I'm so confused about what to have the anti-LGBT bakery put on the cake!

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3 hours ago, DangerousMinds said:

She can't decide whether it's "mama" or "momma." And whatever happened to "Mom and dad?"

They use mama and papa because it makes them appear to be Spanish speakers.

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3 hours ago, 3 is enough said:

Ok. I'm going to be that mother...

He's 3.  He's appears to be on the higher end of the growth scale.  And he is still in a high chair, and has a sippy cup and an uncomfortable looking plastic bib?

My kids are 2 years apart.  By the time the new baby needed the high chair (around 5-6 months) they were at the table in a booster seat.  

I noted the three year old in a high chair, too - complete with tray no less. I wouldn't think a thing about it if I didn't suspect they have weird control issues and ridiculous expectations for children.

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25 minutes ago, Marshmallow Mollie said:

I noted the three year old in a high chair, too - complete with tray no less. I wouldn't think a thing about it if I didn't suspect they have weird control issues and ridiculous expectations for children.

Good grief, my last two never even HAD high chairs. We moved cross country after baby 2, and the high chair did NOT make the trip. I fed babies 3 & 4 in infant seats until they could sit unassisted, then they both used booster seats attached to DR chairs with a tray. So easy and portable!

 

He’s 3, Jill.  Most kids are on their way to preschool where they will sit in regular chairs and be treated like little kids rather than a baby.

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18 hours ago, Nysha said:

The issue is that the actors aren't married, even if the characters are. That's why holier-than-you Kirk Cameron insists on having his wife switched out for the actress playing his wife if he has to kiss someone in his movies. As for why Sound of Music is okay...typical Duggar hypocrisy. 

I feel sorry for Israel. He's got assholes for parents and his birthday banner looks like three sheets of computer paper taped together that his fool mother colored on. They couldn't spend $5 for an actual banner that a three-year-old can appreciate and enjoy? That shitty thing is to make Jill feel better about her sorry self, not for her CHILD to enjoy on his birthday. 

Did anyone notice Jill lying that Israel has been asking about his next-birthday cake since his second birthday? I very much doubt a toddler has that kind of memory. He had probably forgotten about his second-birthday cake a week later. 

Saying it again -- other than Mackynzie and Meredith, of all the Duggar grandkids so far, I feel sorriest for Israel. 

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4 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

 

If they are in Colorado they could be getting high on something in addition to love!  Wonder what their thoughts are on marijuana?  It might just help loosen the giant stick up Dickweed's ass.

 I wonder if they know that we are called the mile high city and why we're called that?

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I have a word for you, Dillards: overexposed. Y'all need to take some time away from social media and get your shit together. Presently, your number one focus is on fame with everything else as a distant second. Get off the Internet and evaluate your priorities.

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3 minutes ago, Marshmallow Mollie said:

I have a word for you, Dillards: overexposed. Y'all need to take some time away from social media and get your shit together. Presently, your number one focus is on fame with everything else as a distant second. Get off the Internet and evaluate your priorities.

But the internet is their priority ?

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22 minutes ago, Rabbittron said:

But the internet is their priority ?

It’s their new direction ministry!

 

I understand all kids are different, as are parents. Having said that, to try and seem polite,  I don’t get Israel in a high chair. He’s pretty tall for one, IMO. In the video of them on their “progressive date”, Derick referred to the boys as being in restraints in the back seat. Just about every picture with Samuel in the background, he’s in one of those jumping things you attach to a door frame.

Isn’t home supposed to be a place you can be free and learn what to do, and not do? I picture them as armchair parents, and this is their solution to limiting movement.

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Does anyone recognize where the birthday picture was taken? There’s too much natural light to be the Dullcave. Where are the relatives? 

Did Jilly Clingy have breakfast with just the kids? @Mollie must be on to something. Maybe she is no longer permitted to hang around with the actual students. Otherwise she would be sitting on Derelict’s lap on that picture.

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6 minutes ago, SMama said:

Did Jilly Clingy have breakfast with just the kids? @Mollie must be on to something. Maybe she is no longer permitted to hang around with the actual students. Otherwise she would be sitting on Derelict’s lap on that picture

Unless Derick took the photo.  They probably had breakfast together and then he left for the scheduled activities.  Jill was alone yesterday for the Chik-Fil-A fiasco, right?

I don't get it.  My DH started travelling for work right after we were transferred to the US from Canada.  I had a 2 year old and a six month old, and was expecting the third 8 months later.  No family nearby and I barely knew a soul, but I never would have dreamed of suggesting that we accompany him.  We just did what we had to do, and we survived.

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2 hours ago, Bridget said:

I wonder if Israel has any play dates or has any other friends who aren't Spurgeon, Sam or the Dullards?

Perhaps they know some other kids - I don't recognize the little boys on the right side of this photo

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If you need to hear some "yaaaays" from Jill, watch this, and be sure to catch Jill's claim that "last year they made Israel's birthday cake from scratch." After the first video about making a cake, there's another video of Israel blowing out his candles - with even more "yaaays" from Jill!

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21 hours ago, Christina87 said:

Ok I've got a legit question. If they can't watch a movie with kissing, why is it okay to post kissing pictures on social media?

 

It's ok because they make sure their kisses look thoroughly unenjoyable. Just scrunch up your mouth, pout a little and then press it against a random person doing the same and you too can achieve the perfect fundie kiss guaranteed to put every one else off snogging forever. They're doing their best to promote abstinence here, what's so hard to understand?

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48 minutes ago, OpieTaylor said:

If you need to hear some "yaaaays" from Jill, watch this, and be sure to catch Jill's claim that "last year they made Israel's birthday cake from scratch." After the first video about making a cake, there's another video of Israel blowing out his candles - with even more "yaaays" from Jill!

 

Yay and why is Israel all by himself in his high chair? They couldn’t have him at the table? 

Here’s the adults “celebrating” his birthday. Is someone missing ?? Oh, the birthday boy!

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