Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!

[Higgins]

2 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

Have the Howlers been to visit the school?

Shaun was the only reason to watch Hardy Boys.  MAN was I bummed when it was a

Nancy Drew week.  I was there for Shaun!

Edited October 8, 2019 by Higgins
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[xwordfanatik]

Shaun really looked like his mother, Shirley Jones.  Half-brother David looked like their dad, Jack Cassidy.

Dillweed's lost lunch was probably the best thing that happened to him all week.  Excepting Becky from the third row's scandalous blouse that she unbuttoned to show a little cleavage.

[Natalie68]

16 minutes ago, Higgins said:

DREAMY!!!!!!!

[lilwhitelion]

Shaun Cassidy was the only teen heartthrob that I fell for.  I fell HARD.  My sister reminds me that I made our family leave our weekend cabin in Big Bear Lake for home (2.5 hour drive) early enough so we could make it home for Hardy Boys.  I think it started at 7:00pm PST?  Bought all his albums.  

[Sew Sumi]

All this Shaun Cassidy talk gave me this earworm that I pass to y'all. I'm a giver like that. 😁

https://youtu.be/l1nTfgUbW48

[Natalie68]

17 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

All this Shaun Cassidy talk gave me this earworm that I pass to y'all. I'm a giver like that. 😁

https://youtu.be/l1nTfgUbW48

Yeah, I knew what was coming but I clicked anyway!  I loved that song.

[JoanArc]

Isn't tht woman the R&F rep? A real MLM friendship there, Jill. Sell her a females & women dress for revenge!

[DangerousMinds]

1 hour ago, Sew Sumi said:

All this Shaun Cassidy talk gave me this earworm that I pass to y'all. I'm a giver like that. 😁

https://youtu.be/l1nTfgUbW48

I loved his albums!

[Trillium]

17 minutes ago, JoanArc said:

Isn't tht woman the R&F rep? A real MLM friendship there, Jill. Sell her a females & women dress for revenge!

Ahh that explains it. Poor Jill, she probably thinks this woman really wants to be her friend. I’m sure she’s pushing for Jill to “join her team” since Jill has a large audience. It’s one of the many reasons MLMs are the worst.

[MsJamieDornan]

7 hours ago, leighdear said:

Jill has huge amounts of time to do exactly what she wants.  Those comparisons don't apply to her. 

She has a huge amount of time because cleaning and laundry are not a priority.

[dariafan]

Wait until Derelict is told what the start up fees are 

[Aethera]

A reminder: if your post is not primarily about the Duggars, is belongs in Small Talk. And let's remember to keep it civil, please - keep the snark and judgement about the Duggars. 

[ginger90]

12 hours ago, JoanArc said:

Isn't tht woman the R&F rep? A real MLM friendship there, Jill. Sell her a females & women dress for revenge!

Screenshots:

[dariafan]

3 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Screenshots:

She could have stopped at I don’t know a ton 

[Trillium]

1 minute ago, dariafan said:

She could have stopped at I don’t know a ton 

But she’ll know enough to sell it by November! 🙄

[galaxychaser]

Not everything should wind up on Instagram. Like that. No one cares what you use on your face.

[Jynnan tonnix]

5 minutes ago, galaxychaser said:

Not everything should wind up on Instagram. Like that. No one cares what you use on your face.

Well, they might if your skin was (or al least looked) flawless....but not so much for Jill.

[Ohiopirate02]

I am just baffled that she is just slapping something on her face without knowing anything about it.  I research everything I put on my face even the stuff I get for free.  You also have to make sure you read the directions, some products are masks that need to be removed after 20 or so minutes, others can be left on, some cause sun sensitivity and require daily SPF, some products lose effectiveness if you mix with other products, etc.  Chemical burns can happen when you are careless with your skincare.  

[Nysha]

3 minutes ago, Jynnan tonnix said:

Well, they might if your skin was (or al least looked) flawless....but not so much for Jill.

Right, Michelle's face looks great for her age. I kind of like to know what she uses, although I suspect basic soap and water, plus she stays out of the sun and doesn't have any stress because someone else is raising her kids and cleaning her house.

Jill's face looks old and greasy. Could be genetics, could be bad diet, could be whatever crap she puts on it, don't know, don't care.

[Sew Sumi]

Well, she's selling to her 1.6 m followers.

[galaxychaser]

I had to look up Shawn Cassidy, 

[Trillium]

1 hour ago, Sew Sumi said:

Well, she's selling to her 1.6 m followers.

This is exactly what it is. This R&F rep is totally priming Jill to join her team, encoring her to post about the products, giving her samples, all with the hopes of getting Jill to join her MLM. And Jill’s too naive and desperate for friendship to see that’s she’s just a mark to this lady. It really just comes down to it DDD is willing to fork over some of his Grubhub money to let her buy a starter kit.  

Edited October 9, 2019 by Trillium
autocorrect strikes again.

[zoomama]

20 hours ago, lilwhitelion said:

Shaun Cassidy was the only teen heartthrob that I fell for.  I fell HARD.  My sister reminds me that I made our family leave our weekend cabin in Big Bear Lake for home (2.5 hour drive) early enough so we could make it home for Hardy Boys.  I think it started at 7:00pm PST?  Bought all his albums.  

big bear lake is gorgeous and a place that i doubt the duggers would ever visit and appreciate.

[leighdear]

OMG.  Read this, then imagine how well Jill would fit in......

https://www.allure.com/story/rodan-fields-skin-care-consultants

[Mindthinkr]

All you need to do is watch: On Becoming a God in Central Florida to understand how this is going to pan out for Jill. She’d be easily influenced and sucked up in the game before she is spit out. 

[queenanne]

At least R&F has got some utility.  C&L, not so much...

[queenanne]

On 10/4/2019 at 1:16 PM, crazy8s said:

also wonder if derrick was held responsible for Dan"s behavior. we certainly know Jill was likely held responsible for Joy, James, and Jenny's  (or Jordyn?) behavior

Someone on Twitter should ask him that at an opportune time, make him think a little.

[ginger90]

[Westiepeach]

So throw a load of laundry in the washer and go back to your book! Problem solved!

[dariafan]

8 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Can she not read while the laundry is going ?  It’s not like she’s doing it by hand 

[JoanArc]

Looks like that book is about failure to launch. Appropriate for Jill in many ways.

[Trillium]

Looks like Jilly is reading this book:
Doing Life With Your Adult Children: Keep Your Mouth Shut & The Welcome Mat Out

So...that’s illuminating. It is published by a Christian author who also wrote some marriage books and something called The Purity Code, so definitely not secular reading. 

[irisheyes]

5 minutes ago, Trillium said:

Looks like Jilly is reading this book:
Doing Life With Your Adult Children: Keep Your Mouth Shut & The Welcome Mat Out

So...that’s illuminating. It is published by a Christian author who also wrote some marriage books and something called The Purity Code, so definitely not secular reading. 

Izzy’s 5, right?  She’s got a little while until she needs to figure out how to parent adult children. How about a nice child development book, Jill?  One that will teach you that kids need structure in order to thrive?  Or a book about childhood anxiety, since I’m sure Izzy has some.  Or a cookbook?  One that doesn’t have all beige food. 

[galaxychaser]

Maybe Cathy gave Jilly the book...

[queenanne]

53 minutes ago, dariafan said:

Can she not read while the laundry is going ?  It’s not like she’s doing it by hand 

I personally find it very tough to do anything else while waiting for the wash/dry cycles to end, lol.  It's clearly some sort of flaw I'm trying to be OK with, as Alexa is there to tell me when it's time to pull things out; I don't know what I'm scared of getting into.  (Though admittedly, my laundry is in the apartment basement and not right there next to me, which is a bit different than Jill's setup.)

[mythoughtis]

So she’s whining about not having more free time to read, while reading a book that she doesn’t need to know about for 18-20 years?  Got it.  Why doesn’t she either read a child development book, a cookbook, or perhaps a novel? 
why don’t they get her a kindle and a kindle unlimited membership? 

Edited October 10, 2019 by mythoughtis

[DangerousMinds]

1 hour ago, Trillium said:

Looks like Jilly is reading this book:
Doing Life With Your Adult Children: Keep Your Mouth Shut & The Welcome Mat Out

So...that’s illuminating. It is published by a Christian author who also wrote some marriage books and something called The Purity Code, so definitely not secular reading. 

More of that “doing life” nonsense.

[Spencer Hastings]

Maybe Jill isn’t reading the book in relation to her own children, but from the perspective of a child of Jim Bob and Michelle. There seems to be a rift there and I bet a small part of it is them not knowing how to let go of the control, despite their “leave and cleave” BS.  

The book description lists these questions and I can see every one of them relating to Jill and Derick.  Maybe one of their parents suggested it. 

Quote

Is it OK to give advice to my grown child?

What's the difference between enabling and helping?

What do I do when my child doesn't seem to be maturing into adulthood?

How do I relate to my grown child's significant other?

What does it mean to have healthy financial boundaries?

How can I support my grown children when I don't support their values?

Edited October 10, 2019 by Spencer Hastings

[Zella]

18 minutes ago, Spencer Hastings said:

Maybe Jill isn’t reading the book in relation to her own children, but from the perspective of a child of Jim Bob and Michelle. There seems to be a rift there and I bet a small part of it is them not knowing how to let go of the control, despite their “leave and cleave” BS.  

The book description lists these questions and I can see every one of them relating to Jill and Derick.  Maybe one of their parents suggested it. 

That's exactly what I was thinking, and if so, that is interesting. 

[Sew Sumi]

24 minutes ago, Spencer Hastings said:

Maybe Jill isn’t reading the book in relation to her own children, but from the perspective of a child of Jim Bob and Michelle. There seems to be a rift there and I bet a small part of it is them not knowing how to let go of the control, despite their “leave and cleave” BS.  

The book description lists these questions and I can see every one of them relating to Jill and Derick.  Maybe one of their parents suggested it. 

That is an interesting list of questions. Every single one, excepting the values one, applies to Boobchelle.

Edited October 10, 2019 by Sew Sumi

[Marigold]

I continue to be surprised that Jill seems to be shocked at how challenging young children are and how being a caregiver (notice I didn't say mother) is a nonstop job 24/7.  

Jill was a buddy leader and one of the older girls of a family of 19 children. It's hard for me to understand Jill's lack of experience. Why is she always so overwhelmed?  How did she handle her buddy group? 

[Absolom]

I think part of it is the jurisdictions.  They cooked one meal a day and were responsible for parts of child rearing and did things like shopping together as a family.  She didn't learn how to integrate multiple activities or how to plan a day.  Scheduling was someone else's responsibility.  There is the possibility that someone else was doing more parenting than is suspected possibly Jim Bob, Mary, or Jana?  

[BigBingerBro]

8 hours ago, Absolom said:

I think part of it is the jurisdictions.  

Plus, I truly wonder how much they actually stuck to this "system" .  I always had a sinking suspicion that most of it was for show and the majority of the time, it was non-stop chaos.                     

[mythoughtis]

1 hour ago, BigBingerBro said:

Plus, I truly wonder how much they actually stuck to this "system" .  I always had a sinking suspicion that most of it was for show and the majority of the time, it was non-stop chaos.                     

Even with the system, it would be non-stop chaos.   Michelle was overwhelmed by herself with 7.   Pre-teen and young teen sister-moms would be overwhelmed with the 3 or 4 buddies they had.

[BitterApple]

4 hours ago, BigBingerBro said:

Plus, I truly wonder how much they actually stuck to this "system" .  I always had a sinking suspicion that most of it was for show and the majority of the time, it was non-stop chaos.                     

I agree. Many of us have long suspected TLC paid for professional cleaning crews to get the house in shape before filming. Given how nasty Jill and Jessa are with their own homes, there's no way regular cleaning was a part of their routine. 

[doodlebug]

2 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

I agree. Many of us have long suspected TLC paid for professional cleaning crews to get the house in shape before filming. Given how nasty Jill and Jessa are with their own homes, there's no way regular cleaning was a part of their routine. 

Also, those kids grew up in such isolation, where would they have learned any housekeeping skills if they never saw them?  Both Jill and Jessa spent much of their formative years living in a 2 bedroom house with a dozen or more people.  Even if Michelle was the most meticulous and talented housekeeper in the world, there is no way that house wasn't a cluttered mess even when ostensibly clean.

[galaxychaser]

And how can I forget that kids slept with no sheets or pajamas. Seriously???

[dariafan]

I’d feel bad for her if she , now having been out in the world, had some awareness of her shortcomings and worked on them    But she doesn’t   She’s a stunted teenager playing adult.  But she has actual children that need her to grow the hell up   I’m just glad she can’t be suckered into be a luluroe distributor 

[Suzn]

2 minutes ago, dariafan said:

I’d feel bad for her if she , now having been out in the world, had some awareness of her shortcomings and worked on them    But she doesn’t   She’s a stunted teenager playing adult.  But she has actual children that need her to grow the hell up   I’m just glad she can’t be suckered into be a luluroe distributor 

She's had ample time and exposure to the world to have acquired a clue.  But no, she lives in complete obliviousness, clinging to D'Wreck and being overwhelmed by two children and the care of a house.

[Minivanessa]

5 hours ago, BigBingerBro said:

Plus, I truly wonder how much they actually stuck to this "system" .  I always had a sinking suspicion that most of it was for show and the majority of the time, it was non-stop chaos.                     

I agree. They've always presented a carefully curated version of their lives to the TV audience. Although thanks to the TLC editing monkeys, anyone who watched the TV series with their eyes open could glimpse the chaos. Remember the Howler Monkeys scrounging for food and the time they put video cameras inside the dishwasher and turned it on? Or Josie licking the counters?

And of course there's the "outtakes" video clip that Discovery networks posted of Meech with a few of her young children around her, unable to complete an interview because they were acting up and she had no effing clue how to handle them with the camera rolling. Maybe she'd given up the blanket training when they came along so had no magic words with which to terrify them into silence. Or maybe they weren't sure who she was and wanted to be with their sister moms. But, she definitely was getting nowhere using her soft little sweet TV voice. And she knew she couldn't be harsh in front of the camera. Heh.

I'm sure that Jill believes that her parents hung the moon and powered the stars to shine, and I don't think she realizes that her upbringing hasn't prepared her for her life as the wife of a law student and mother of two small children. In an ordinary tract house in a regular subdivision without a TV crew around. She's nothing special, TBH, except for her history as a D list reality TV star and her zillion Instagram followers. Derick's got a harsh side to his personality but at least he got her away from the TTH. It's sad that he's not better equipped to help Jill grow up. I don't like either of them, but I also hope they manage to navigate life without either of them having a spectacular blow-up or meltdown. ☹️

Edited October 10, 2019 by Jeeves