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Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!


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1 hour ago, Future Cat Lady said:

It's so sad to see young children being indoctrinated into a cult.

The SBC would probably take exception to being called a cult.  It's the largest protestant denomination in the US.  I wouldn't be able to tolerate being a member, but it's probably pushing the definition to call it a cult. 

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1 hour ago, magpye29 said:

You put them on the back so the kids won't peel them off.  Since you're usually chasing them, it's better if they're on the back, anyway!

When I was teaching Kindergarten, I always put any notes to go home on the back rather than the front.  The chances were better that the notes would actually get home if the children couldn't play with them.  These kids look rather young to be able to play the "guess who I am" game where the name is on the back.

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3 hours ago, cdp73 said:

If I found out that my imaginary child was being subjected to a "class" taught by Derick, I'd be long gone from that church.

If Derick's views offend you, you and your imaginary child wouldn't be at Cross Church to start with. Chances are, the majority of the those children's parents think he is an awesome Christian who was fired from his job for speaking the truth and are honored that he is sharing his faith with their children.

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On 2/9/2018 at 11:10 PM, Jynnan tonnix said:

Am I the only one who sort of likes Jinger's outfit? It looks like something I'd have worn when I was still young and thin. Of course, that was in the early 80's and maybe it was in style then? I don't know...I don't pay too much attention to fashion as a rule, so other than the big hair and shoulder pads, both of which suited me (I have naturally curly hair and very narrow shoulders), I don't recall any particularly iconic 80's look.

Anyway, I like the color combination, and would be more prone to wear that outfit than any other in the picture. But with Jana's shoes.

That was exactly what I thought!!! Every time I see the picture, I think Jinger reminds me of an 80's sitcom actress. I could totally seeing someone on the Cosby Show, Who's the Boss, or The Facts of Life wearing that exact getup. Plus, she has big, curly hair there, not the cute curling iron curls. 

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Dude really should have buckled down and attempted accounting. He really has such an "accountant" personality...files, power points for presentations, the "document" about his physical boundaries during courtship, suit and tie, etc. I wonder if deep down he knows he should be working, and overcompensated by wearing a suit and tie to lecture young kids. Even though he's lazy, I think he would be a thousand percent happier working as an accountant. Maybe now that Jill actually has kids, it would go better because she would be occupied at home. At the very least, she could spend all day at the TTH. 

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1 hour ago, The Ascension said:

These little kids sitting on the carpet and getting a freaking POWERPOINT presented to them is way, way, too much. I can't stop laughing. 

 

Ascension - I blew up that photo - that's not carpet, it looks like painted slab concrete.  Grrrr.  There's a painted white seam on the left between the 2 girls with pink/red bows in their hair and an unpainted one running up and down starting up at the plug by Derelik.  Who makes young kids sit on concrete for a presentation??  At least give them mats to sit on - WTF are these folks thinking????

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4 hours ago, Vaysh said:

Ugh. The whole "women belong in the home and all secretly want to be there because history!" BS is one of my pet peeves. Until after World War II, when there was a huge propaganda campaign to get women out of the work force and into the home because governments were afraid that men would end up jobless after returning from the war, most women worked unless they were part of the affluent but small upper and middle classes. Working class women (the majority) have always had to work. And usually had to do all of the housework as well. If you were working class or peasant class you worked, whether man or woman. This whole idea of the cookie-baking, homework-helping, sweetly smiling angel of the home with her spotless home and garden who was just so fulfilled and happy with never having to go out into the nasty world and *gasp* work for pay instead of, you know, doing it for free, is essentially a 1950's propaganda piece. And the generations after that fought furiously to change that image and for the right for all women to work in all fields as well as for conditions that allow women to work even after having children (paid parental leave, subsidised child care, good pre-schools etc). I guess Derp slept through that history class.

 

tl;dr: Fuck you Derick.

 

He must have. What BS. I'd have a hard time finding any woman who didn't work in my family tree. The farmers on my dad's side? Guess what? Everyone worked on the farm. Boy, girl, husband, wife it didn't matter. Work had to get done. My great-great-grandmother on my mother's side who was widowed in the late 1800s? Well, someone still had to support and take care of her sons. Guess who that was? That's right she did. My great-grandmother worked as a kid to help support her family, worked later after making the mistake of marrying her crappy first husband. Well, he wasn't going to do any work (gee Derick kind of like you minus the booze). She left him, took the kids and continued to work. She got remarried to a better man what do you know she kept working.  She worked during WWII. Her daughter my grandmother was a nurse. My family has never had the option of women not working. The whole women working until they gave birth and back to working the fields the next day? That actually happened. Stories of kids having to go work in factories? Guess what whole families worked. Fathers, mothers, kids. I love how all that BS is coming from a man with no job at all. Who lost (or in his mind left) three different jobs. Walmart which could have easily been a great career with good benefits and steady work, TLC which the only real requirement is not to do something stupid and get fired (and this is TLC it takes a lot for them to part ways with anyone), and lazy missionary work. 

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On ‎2‎/‎7‎/‎2018 at 3:51 AM, kalamac said:

Don't get me started on kids in nappies. I know a few teachers who teach in the 4-6 age range, and they say ever since more and more people started embracing the whole 'let kids toilet train when they decide they're ready for it' thing, more non-challenged kids show up every year in nappies and pull-ups, and don't even try going to the toilet. One of my friends had three in her class last year.

Jill seems like the type who'd let toilet training lag because it's too much effort.

But it's an effort that Jill has made many times in her young life.  I'm sure there wouldn't be one Duggar out of diapers if not for Jana and Jill.  Michelle is the lazy one here.

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Is Derick forgetting jobs traditionally held by females like seamstresses, teachers, nurses, maids, waitresses and secretaries? Is he forgetting about all the rights women have fought for and are still fighting for in the workplace?

Women fought for the right to attend school and become MDs and lawyers, fought to become business owners instead of secretaries, pilots instead of stewardesses, etc. Women are still fighting for equal pay in the work force.

Many women have worked and work now, whether they have children or not. Many women are choosing not to have children (the horrors, right Derick?) Many women come home from work to their kids and dinner on the table by their stay-at-home husbands.

Derick is the one who idealizes eras gone by. Eras that oppressed women and allowed asshole men to stroke their egos with unearned power. 

Once again, fuck-you Derick.

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5 hours ago, floridamom said:

So, why wasn't Cathy at home full time raising Derick and Dan? She had a working husband; Derick doesn't make sense. From what I have seen in photos, Derick and Dan had a good life growing up. Miss Cathy should have been at home baking cookies.

I was thinking the same thing. Can't believe he would even think of saying what he did. Btw, what does he mean by a "romantic view of work?"  Does he mean someone loving her career so much she would rather work than be a stay at home mom? 

Was Cathy working when she was diagnosed with cancer? 

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1 hour ago, tabloidlover said:

Why is the apartment so fuckin messy???    Clothes in a basket and hung on the back of the couch.   She DOESN'T HAVE A JOB!   Her literal JOB is to be a stay at home mother and wife.   That includes keeping the household up ffs.

 I'm gonna cut Jill a break on this one. That looks like Derrick's suit on the back of the couch with his shirt as if he just got home and took it off to hang it back up. And I'll give her credit for having her laundry done and in a basket out in the living room where she's at least making an effort to get it folded and put away. That puts her step ahead of Jessa who just piled it up on the bed, apparently for days at a time. And a couple of toys on the floor when their dad is playing with them is certainly no big deal.  And the baby carrier is in the hall by the door (probably where it always is) waiting to be used because they really don't have anywhere else to store it. YMMV

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On 2/9/2018 at 5:10 PM, jennblevins said:

If I didn’t know any better, and I bothered to think about it, I’d look at that picture and see, from left to right:

- Polyamorous group of 4

- Straight couple

- Lesbian couple with toddler

- Single guy with baby

- Gay couple

... the funny thing is, I’m pretty sure TLC would air that show, too. 

Just think.  *5* more shows if they went this route!  Hilarious and pretty spot on.

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18 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

Cross Church likely has no clue that Derelict is passing himself off as "staff." The place is pretty big, and I doubt his 'professors" follow his twatter. 

Had to post this gem of delusion that he retwatted w/r/t millenial women choosing to become SAHM over working. 

Passive aggressive dig toward Cathy? Derelik really doesn't know the meaning of "work"? Boomer here and my mother worked in a factory her mother worked in a factory and the great-aunt who moved in and helped take care of us worked in a factory before she retired. Topic? Derp is an idiot.

16 hours ago, CherryMalotte said:

Cripes, those poor kids - they look pretty well behaved

No wonder, they should all be blanket trained by now.

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On 2/9/2018 at 5:31 PM, Sew Sumi said:

Oh Cathy, never stop. I had to respond to her nationalism, reminding her that ALL athletes make tremendous sacrifices to be at the Olympics, including HOT TONGAN in his bobsled. 

Hot Tongan is the only reason I even looked at the opening ceremony.  Seriously gave me a case of the vapors.

On 2/9/2018 at 5:45 PM, bigskygirl said:

Sorry Cathy, but I do not plan on watching the Olympics. Yes call me the Ugly American. Btw does she or her Derelict of a son know what work and sacrifice really mean. I doubt it!

I don't watch them either.  Except for a brief flash of Hot Tongan.

Derelict sacrificed his sanity to ride the Duggar Train.  Then he got too freaky for even TLC so off they went.  It is quite a feat when you are too freaking weird/offensive for TLC!

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On 2/9/2018 at 6:54 PM, DragonFaerie said:

I wonder if Jill and Deadbeat will have a College event showing the Live Jesus Christ Superstar! on Easter Weekend?  

http://ew.com/tv/2017/12/08/alice-cooper-king-herod-jesus-christ-superstar-live/

LOVE Alice Cooper!  And Jesus Christ Superstar even though I am a terrible atheist.  

On 2/10/2018 at 4:16 AM, TresGatos said:

I loved the friendship that developed between Ron Jeremy and Tammy Faye Bakker Messner when they were on The Surreal House together. Jim Bakker is still a total grifter creep though.

I was going to write the same thing.  It was sweet.  

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Had to comment on the “Hot Tongan”. My 15 year old daughter (who has never been the boy crazy type except for Kris Bryant)  calls him “Coconut Man”. Yesterday we were in the kitchen and my son was watching the Olympics in the living room.  He yelled to us that cross country skiing was  on. My daughter ran out of the kitchen, “Is Coconut Man on????”  Is 15 too late to start blanket training?

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The more I think about Derrick's tweet, the more angry I get at Derrick and his ilk.  The ability to choose between being a working mother or a SAHM has and is only available to women of a certain socio-economic status.  Even then it is usually tied to a certain ethnicity.  No woman has a romantic view of being a working mother, we do what we have to do. 

I agree with another poster, Derrick must resent his mother working when he was a child. 

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6 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Link to Instagram video in tweet:

Is this their normal? It's the second 'normal' family vid they've posted. Remember the Duggs have been living a tv life of production and editing, and maybe they weren't as savvy as Jessa (although she still makes massive errors), but Dillards might now be catching on. I think JB had a heavy hand in marketing their family as one dimensional on TLC and the kids LIVED that. Remember when he was asked a question about a politician and he kept giving a different answer with the expectation that the interviewer would just edit to hide the retakes? I think Jill is awakening. I really really hope so. 

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19 minutes ago, sometimesy said:

Is this their normal? It's the second 'normal' family vid they've posted. Remember the Duggs have been living a tv life of production and editing, and maybe they weren't as savvy as Jessa (although she still makes massive errors), but Dillards might now be catching on. I think JB had a heavy hand in marketing their family as one dimensional on TLC and the kids LIVED that. Remember when he was asked a question about a politician and he kept giving a different answer with the expectation that the interviewer would just edit to hide the retakes? I think Jill is awakening. I really really hope so. 

I think the family is circling the wagons to head off the speculation about Josh being in rehab (I think for sure he is). Anna, Jill, and Jessa are in overdrive posting normal, how cute,  how relatable posts. Even one of the boys is posting about sledding.  They think they are masters of the diversion smoke screen. 

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34 minutes ago, jennblevins said:

THIS. I like to think of myself as a pretty calm person, but the idea that all women (mothers or not) have some sort of magical ability to choose whether to work outside the house or not makes me stabby.  (Was I sick the day that we all had to make that choice in school and someone chose “work” for me?) Worse yet, it shows up in both left-leaning stuff and right-leaning stuff (both with the assumption that any women who works chose to do so; the only difference is whether this is considered a good thing or not).  It’s a ridiculous rose-colored idea that doesn’t reflect reality for most women that I know. There’s a choice, all right, but it’s the same one that men have: work, starve, or find someone else that thinks you’re worth supporting. 

Clearly Jill thought Derick was worth supporting, Lord knows why.  

Because she is in love with him, and he was the first boy man to show her the time of day.

1 hour ago, bigskygirl said:

Funny how Derelict calls out working women/mothers, but he does not mind using the money his own wife gets from being on the show before his actions got them off the show.

Seriously His tweet so so condescending and smug for someone who lives off of his wife's paycheck

"Romanticized view of working" lol. FFS Derick. What typically gets romanticized is staying home and being a helpmeet. A lot of women *gasp* prefer to work!!! It implies that women don't have the brain power to decide what will be best for them/ their families and we need the almighty derrick to remind us that "now now ladies, working isn't all it is cracked up to be!"

Add this to the walmart rumors and I think Derrick has some major mommy issues. Wonder how Cathy feels about that. No wonder he wanted to be a Duggar.

I was a latchkey kid and sure it sometimes sucked having to be a little more independent  but the second I grew up I realized how amazing my mom is to have had an awesome career ( registered dietician) and raise 4 kids.  AND how I am so lucky to have had the mom and childhood I had. I hope to be just like her. I'll pass on " home maker "Jilly Muffin who can' tie her shoe unattended or read beyond a 6th grade level. 

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2 hours ago, Barb23 said:

I love Jesus Christ Superstar & the music & have seen it plenty of times. I think it may be too worldly for this family. 

Maybe the whole group could watch it at the TTH. Don't they have a pull down screen to watch special events? 

If nothing else, Derelict would complain that that the TV version (aside from the blasphemous notion that Mary Magdalene may have found Jesus to be sexually attractive), has John Legend, a man of color, playing Jesus and we all know that Jesus was a white guy like Derelict.

1 hour ago, Annb67 said:

Jesus Jill!!! Clean the hell up!!

Derick doesn't work, either.  It looks like some of the mess is his.  They both could do a better job of keeping the place tidy, especially since it is so small.  A little clutter goes a long way in a tiny space.

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