Lunera September 4, 2017 Share September 4, 2017 https://mobile.twitter.com/derick4Him/status/904686331841757185 D-bag wishing everyone a Happy Labor Day. I'm convinced he's just trolling everyone now. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3608577
Pinke September 4, 2017 Share September 4, 2017 Quote Derick Dillard @derick4Him "Whatever you do, work heartily, as for the Lord and not for men" (Colossians 3:23) Happy Labor Day from the Dillards! #LaborDay2017 8:43 AM · 4 sept. 2017 You've gotta be kidding me. 19 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3608586
Churchhoney September 4, 2017 Share September 4, 2017 1 minute ago, PinkyCupcake said: You've gotta be kidding me. Well, somebody has to do the work, you know. And aside from Jana and JD, we know that nobody in the Dill-Dugg clan will be doing it. 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3608592
Mya September 4, 2017 Share September 4, 2017 I am confused..... So Derick posted another link for donations did it get taken down for a second time? I sure hope so!! So sick of these two. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3608668
Annb67 September 4, 2017 Share September 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Lunera said: https://mobile.twitter.com/derick4Him/status/904686331841757185 D-bag wishing everyone a Happy Labor Day. I'm convinced he's just trolling everyone now. A day off for some. In other words, an ordinary day for these lazy asses. 15 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3608733
Marshmallow Mollie September 4, 2017 Share September 4, 2017 Cross Church is in a really awkward position. What do you think the blowback to the church will be/is regarding Derick? What do you think Cross Church thinks of his page being taken down twice? In order for him to continue, it seems Cross Church would have to mentor him in some way to bring his finances above board. Maybe a probation period? Then, if he can't tow the line, he is dismissed. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3608736
Sew Sumi September 4, 2017 Share September 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, Annb67 said: A day off for some. In other words, an ordinary day for these lazy asses. Derelict obviously has no clue what Labor Day is really about. Mr. Sumi is a Union member, so Derelict's ignorance really hits home for me. 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3608760
dreamingtree September 4, 2017 Share September 4, 2017 7 hours ago, GeeGolly said: Again Derick is proving to be like JB. Didn't JB squirrel away a quarter of a million dollars while his family was fed and clothed by "love offerings"? JB's grifting game is top notch though. Derick's sucks. I feel certain that JB is disappointed in how Derick is shaping up. Maybe a single trip to Nepal isn't enough to decide to marry off your daughter to a ne'er do well hippie Jesus. 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3608763
lascuba September 4, 2017 Share September 4, 2017 44 minutes ago, Marshmallow Mollie said: Cross Church is in a really awkward position. What do you think the blowback to the church will be/is regarding Derick? What do you think Cross Church thinks of his page being taken down twice? In order for him to continue, it seems Cross Church would have to mentor him in some way to bring his finances above board. Maybe a probation period? Then, if he can't tow the line, he is dismissed. None. This is a conservative Christian church we're talking about, here. Anything Derick says or does that falls in line with American Christian conservatism will be fine with them. It's not like anyone who attends that church or otherwise offers monetary support is going to withdraw because of anything Derick says. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3608855
dreamingtree September 4, 2017 Share September 4, 2017 (edited) 25 minutes ago, lascuba said: None. This is a conservative Christian church we're talking about, here. Anything Derick says or does that falls in line with American Christian conservatism will be fine with them. It's not like anyone who attends that church or otherwise offers monetary support is going to withdraw because of anything Derick says. Sad but true Edited September 4, 2017 by dreamingtree typo 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3608920
Mollie September 4, 2017 Share September 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Marshmallow Mollie said: Cross Church is in a really awkward position. What do you think the blowback to the church will be/is regarding Derick? What do you think Cross Church thinks of his page being taken down twice? In order for him to continue, it seems Cross Church would have to mentor him in some way to bring his finances above board. Maybe a probation period? Then, if he can't tow the line, he is dismissed. Derick isn't an employee of Cross Church; he is a student taking a course. Whatever Derick does is not really a reflection of that church. Derick is too greedy and too arrogant to listen to anyone's advice about his behavior. Major news sites and magazines have been exposing him for two years over Dillard Family Ministries and Derick just keeps on being the same old Derick. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3609065
doodlebug September 4, 2017 Share September 4, 2017 12 minutes ago, Mollie said: Derick isn't an employee of Cross Church; he is a student taking a course. Whatever Derick does is not really a reflection of that church. Derick is too greedy and too arrogant to listen to anyone's advice about his behavior. Major news sites and magazines have been exposing him for two years over Dillard Family Ministries and Derick just keeps on being the same old Derick. This. And, despite our general abhorrence of Derick's POV on LGBTQ and his shameless money grubbing and joblessness; folks from Cross Church would agree with him on those issues. They believe 'The Gays' are all going to hell and its their job to point it out and that anyone claiming to 'minister' is entitled to beg for money no matter how much they already have. The posters here are not in their core demographic anyway, they don't care what we think. 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3609120
dreamingtree September 4, 2017 Share September 4, 2017 Has Derick addressed LGBTQ stuff directly? What I recall is mostly just mission this, Jesus that, donate here. But I don't pay super close attention to Derick, though his recent grifting colossal fail is entertaining 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3609153
Sew Sumi September 4, 2017 Share September 4, 2017 There was the issue with Jazz ... 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3609160
ariel September 4, 2017 Share September 4, 2017 Happy Labor Day to all the hard working people here. We wake up & start our day on time. We don't grift. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3609392
Marigold September 4, 2017 Share September 4, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, Churchhoney said: Could be. But I'm not convinced. As far as I can tell, virtually all the publicity outside of very conservative and conservative-Christian media that the whole gang of top evangelicals get today is for the same kind of stuff that Derick posts -- gay- and trans-bashing to the max, raking in donations from poor people without actually serving those in poverty in their churches. .... And of course they all continue to embrace the Prez in the wake of huge apparent public backlash against the embrace-of-white-supremacism, and the same when the prayer at his inaugural was given by that "prosperity gospel" Florida-by-way-of-Maryland woman who's done nothing her whole "career" but take money from poor people and get rich off it. .... Both Jer's latest crush MacArthur and Der's guy Floyd are signers of that Nashville statement, which has gotten tons and tons of bad publicity. Bin's boy Voddie Baucham has attracted years and years of bad publicity for his child-beating propaganda.................Yet nobody in the top-flight conservative evangelical community throws any of those people out because of the bad publicity, which has been plentiful. I really kind of doubt that having a bunch of liberal TeeVee viewers bashing Derick for saying and doing the exact same stuff that many of the top conservative evangelicals and their famous faves do will rouse them to publicly cut him loose. They agree with him, and all the criticism is coming from lib'ruls who are seduced by the lamestream media, seems to me. Plus, he's such small potatoes to the increasingly famous and influential Floyd that I doubt Der even attracts the attention of a dust mote, really. He upsets us, but I doubt the church is paying the slightest attention. Agree with you that Derick is saying nothing new, so no shock. Floyd is not personally offended by anything Derick has said. In fact, he supports all of it fully. I'm thinking that Josh Molestation + Ashely Madison + Derick + sketchy fundraising = too much for Floyd to take with no benefit for Cross Church. At least with the Nashville statement, everyone can "oooh and aaahhh" at how amazingly moral they all are. Josh Duggar? Uh...everyone sorta quietly moves away from that family. ;) Duggars are a lightening rod for controversy and we all know politicians/political types can't afford any more scandal than they already have. Edited September 4, 2017 by Marigold 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3609487
Lunera September 4, 2017 Share September 4, 2017 D-wreck just won't let the Jazz situation die. Yesterday he liked these posts. He's such a loser still checking in on that thread and liking all the comments that agree with him. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3609519
ariel September 4, 2017 Share September 4, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, doodlebug said: This. And, despite our general abhorrence of Derick's POV on LGBTQ and his shameless money grubbing and joblessness; folks from Cross Church would agree with him on those issues. They believe 'The Gays' are all going to hell and its their job to point it out and that anyone claiming to 'minister' is entitled to beg for money no matter how much they already have. The posters here are not in their core demographic anyway, they don't care what we think. What we can do is not give them a cent of our money & encourage others to do the same. Expose them for what they are on social media. Not harass them, just show who they are & what they stand for. Edited September 4, 2017 by ariel 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3609597
ariel September 4, 2017 Share September 4, 2017 23 hours ago, ariel said: Derrick, you can make better steaks on a grill than those crappy pans. They look like the ones advertised late at night on "buy it now" tv. If you don't have a grill, a good grill pan will work. You should ask your leghumper fans to donate a grill pan to you. Get those idiots to buy you a nice Le Creuset grill pan. Oh & getting off your lazy ass & cooking for your wife isn't a "at home date". Watching your own children isn't "babysitting" either. At a closer look there appears to be another pre-packed beef type product on Derrick's right hand side. How much beef do they need for a "at home date night" for two? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3609670
JayInChicago September 4, 2017 Share September 4, 2017 Ok I'm so I am trans so you'd think I'd quit lurking to comment on that part of Dillword's twitting, but instead... IS HE COOKING STEAK IN MAYONNAISE?? 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3609721
leighdear September 4, 2017 Share September 4, 2017 It looks to me like a giant jar of chopped garlic. But I didn't think they use seasonings much. Not sure what herb is in the other jar. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3609736
McManda September 5, 2017 Share September 5, 2017 11 minutes ago, leighdear said: It looks to me like a giant jar of chopped garlic. Who would ever need that much garlic at one time?! A little garlic goes a long way. That size jar would take me forever to go through. I would say it's sauerkraut but the Dillard/Duggar families don't strike me as liking sauerkraut. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3609771
latetotheparty September 5, 2017 Share September 5, 2017 (edited) 33 minutes ago, JayInChicago said: Ok I'm so I am trans so you'd think I'd quit lurking to comment on that part of Dillword's twitting, but instead... IS HE COOKING STEAK IN MAYONNAISE?? Welcome Jay. This lovely community sucks you into commenting even if you don't watch these fuckers. I have a trans cousin in Chicago. <3 Edited September 5, 2017 by latetotheparty forgot the most important word 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3609807
Genevrier September 5, 2017 Share September 5, 2017 32 minutes ago, JayInChicago said: IS HE COOKING STEAK IN MAYONNAISE? I am just so glad he's recovered well enough from his difficult c-section that he is able to prepare food at all, even if it is steak in mayonnaise. (Which, honestly, would not surprise me.) 16 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3609810
Zuleikha September 5, 2017 Share September 5, 2017 I'm honestly surprised to see Derick cooking (and apparently happy about it). I can't imagine JB doing that. For all their rigid beliefs, it seems like the younger generation of Duggars and spouses are still a little bit looser about what they consider women's roles vs. men's roles. The men seem to be fairly involved with parenting and do help out somewhat with the house. Technically, the women are the breadwinners although I'm sure everyone tap dances around acknowledging that fact. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3609846
humbleopinion September 5, 2017 Share September 5, 2017 JB's cooking was opening cans of tuna and drowning it with BBQ sauce and slapping that slop between 2 pieces of bread ...to quote Joy...genius... 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3610025
Jynnan tonnix September 5, 2017 Share September 5, 2017 2 hours ago, ariel said: At a closer look there appears to be another pre-packed beef type product on Derrick's right hand side. How much beef do they need for a "at home date night" for two? Coming here directly from the thread discussing Jeremy's "dressing to the left", this took me a moment to process correctly. And needing more brain bleach. 19 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3610087
lianau September 5, 2017 Share September 5, 2017 On 3.9.2017 at 10:00 PM, Churchhoney said: I kind of think that one of Derick's (many) problems is that he's now a split-Christian-personality who actually has no idea what he thinks about any of these things. And I suspect that the resulting mental chaos may stress him out, whether or not he realizes or admits that (my guess would be that he doesn't realize or admit it) I think he also feels cheated out of his missionary dream . He thought he was marrying a missionary partner but instead got a stage 5 clinger who can't be left alone for 5 minutes . Jill on the other hand, can't understand why her marriage isn't the godly fairy tale she was promised she'd get if she followed all the rules . 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3610208
Lunera September 5, 2017 Share September 5, 2017 Weird of them adding the Muslim bit in the middle of their rambling. Is that who the other steaks were for? Was it halal? Did D-bag try to convert them? 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3610422
Spencer Hastings September 5, 2017 Share September 5, 2017 Friday was a Muslim holiday in which they feast and then share their feasts and wealth with those in need. Maybe the Dillards were those in need for this family? I can see Jill and Derick being too dense to realize that in the midst of trying to convert them! 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3610471
louannems September 5, 2017 Share September 5, 2017 They served the Muslim family an "American" meal. Probably PORK-based hotdogs! 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3610472
Sew Sumi September 5, 2017 Share September 5, 2017 Now we know what all that steak was for. I hope the Muslim family ignores the Duggarspawn if they see at each other at the park again. I imagine it's really hard to be non-Christian (even Catholic) in the Bible Belt. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3610506
Marigold September 5, 2017 Share September 5, 2017 Jill and Derick are just so damn socially awkward, in addition to the pages of things that we snark about. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3610539
Popular Post BitterApple September 5, 2017 Popular Post Share September 5, 2017 I love how she says they had a "Muslim" family at their house for an "American" dinner, as if the two are mutually exclusive. 69 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3610654
doodlebug September 5, 2017 Share September 5, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Marigold said: Jill and Derick are just so damn socially awkward, in addition to the pages of things that we snark about. I can just imagine Jill 'befriending' a Muslim family at the park for the specific purpose of trying to convert them. That poor family; spending an evening with the Dulllards browbeating them about Jesus. Somehow, I don't picture that ending welll. Presuming this was an observant family, which, it seems they might've been, how very arrogant and how very typical of Derick and Jill to assault them with their beliefs under the guise of friendship. Edited September 5, 2017 by doodlebug 20 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3610655
Mollie September 5, 2017 Share September 5, 2017 "we will have the opportunity to serve on several missions teams" – Does that mean that Jill is paying the money to go on those trips, too? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3610703
ozziemom September 5, 2017 Share September 5, 2017 Where did they move to? She also managed to get in a plug for details coming soon on how we can "support" their ministry, lucky us! 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3610853
Nysha September 5, 2017 Share September 5, 2017 12 hours ago, McManda said: Who would ever need that much garlic at one time?! A little garlic goes a long way. That size jar would take me forever to go through. Me...I hate the smell of garlic on my hands, so I buy it minced in a large jar. It does last for a while, but, it's weaker than fresh garlic, so you have to use more and I love garlic, so I tend to double the amount called for in my recipes. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3610892
Mollie September 5, 2017 Share September 5, 2017 Derick looks really goofy, hanging out with college students in his dress shirt and bow tie. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3611041
tabloidlover September 5, 2017 Share September 5, 2017 To be fair, when does he not look goofy? And what is he trying to do in that pic? 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3611048
Mollie September 5, 2017 Share September 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, tabloidlover said: To be fair, when does he not look goofy? And what is he trying to do in that pic? 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3611054
Westiepeach September 5, 2017 Share September 5, 2017 28 minutes ago, tabloidlover said: To be fair, when does he not look goofy? And what is he trying to do in that pic? I think he is making the "C3" logo with his hand. You know, because he is so cool. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3611120
Triple P September 5, 2017 Share September 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, Westiepeach said: I think he is making the "C3" logo with his hand. You know, because he is so cool. I am irratonally irritated by this group throwing the C3 gang sign. 17 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3611142
bythelake September 5, 2017 Share September 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Mollie said: Derick looks really goofy, hanging out with college students in his dress shirt and bow tie. Why is he dressed differently than everyone else? Is he the group leader? And that pretty girl, bottom left is doing some serious defrauding. Not only can you see her knees, but all the way up her thigh to her butt. Jill must be beside herself. Oh, and the guy in the black shorts is trying to make the same hand signal, but hasn't quite mastered it. They look like an enthusiastic bunch, I predict that one of their lessons will be perfecting the signal, and future pictures will have them all doing it correctly. 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3611301
Jellybeans September 5, 2017 Share September 5, 2017 All I noticed was Derick forgot his deodorant. 20 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3611314
Natalie68 September 5, 2017 Share September 5, 2017 On 9/3/2017 at 10:46 AM, humbleopinion said: Der looks so happy and stress free, bet he isn't gagging, barfing, or horking.... Is that a chaise lounge chair or tall air mattress in his tent suite? The picture looks like peace and quiet to me ...no crying baby in the night ....no one wanting their daddy....manspreading a little to close to that fresh faced blonde...don't you think? Der should have scratched out the blonde sitting next to him when he covered up his car plates...or did he purposefully sit next to a blonde in short shorts and only one t shirt layer to drive Jilly deeper into her post partum depression? Once I saw the above bold written I had to look again. There he is sitting like a giant asshole manspreading all over everyone's space. Don't go changing asshole. I just want to throat punch him. Maybe its my surly mood for having to come back to work after a 3 day weekend but maybe its the picture of a grown man, who is a new father of *2* fucking blessings, at what amounts to sleep away camp like a 10 year old boy. 18 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3611325
Natalie68 September 5, 2017 Share September 5, 2017 On 9/3/2017 at 3:05 PM, Lunera said: This isn't the pool house. Maybe Boob downgraded them to a crappy rental Looks like they all got that same pan (the copper one) that is advertised on tv late at night. SOOOO, who is watching the devil box at night??? I kinda want to picture Michelle as a QVC, Home Shopping Network addict. A closet full of Shamwow's! And that new strapless bra that just sticks on your boobs. 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3611360
Natalie68 September 5, 2017 Share September 5, 2017 On 9/3/2017 at 7:35 PM, Sew Sumi said: Derelict's grift will get more play now: he just tweeted it out. Of course, all comments are negative. I HAD to respond! 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3611391
doodlebug September 5, 2017 Share September 5, 2017 53 minutes ago, bythelake said: Why is he dressed differently than everyone else? Is he the group leader? And that pretty girl, bottom left is doing some serious defrauding. Not only can you see her knees, but all the way up her thigh to her butt. Jill must be beside herself. Oh, and the guy in the black shorts is trying to make the same hand signal, but hasn't quite mastered it. They look like an enthusiastic bunch, I predict that one of their lessons will be perfecting the signal, and future pictures will have them all doing it correctly. He is dressed differently because he is the MINISTER (or minister wanna-be). The rest of them are most likely Ark U students that he is trying to convert. Also, he doesn't want to defraud us by showing his legs or scrawny upper arms. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3611475
Jynnan tonnix September 5, 2017 Share September 5, 2017 42 minutes ago, Natalie68 said: Looks like they all got that same pan (the copper one) that is advertised on tv late at night. SOOOO, who is watching the devil box at night??? I kinda want to picture Michelle as a QVC, Home Shopping Network addict. A closet full of Shamwow's! And that new strapless bra that just sticks on your boobs. To be fair, I've seen those pans, or similar knock-offs (if there can actually be a knock-off of a cheapo "as seen on TV" item) all over the place. BJ's has them, I think I've seen them at Wal Mart, certainly at the Big Lot type stores... 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/516/#findComment-3611495
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