Josh & Anna Smuggar: A Series of Unfortunate Events

[JoanArc]

 I also realized odds of Jana getting Married just hit zero.

[Churchhoney]

2 minutes ago, emmawoodhouse said:

No, the family conference is this week. David Waller posted from there earlier this week. Boobchelle were scheduled to be keynote speakers. I hope that's going well for them tonight. 😂

Wow, they need to do a better job with their calendar! Because that's not listed on the 2021 calendar I saw!  (which has a lot of events on it!)

ALthough I suppose so few people work for them any more that they have trouble getting these things done correctly....

Edited April 29, 2021 by Churchhoney

[JoanArc]

4 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Can you imagine. JB & M giving a talk and all of a sudden someone pulls out their phone. Then another one does and another one. Everyone staring up at the stage in disbelief. And the audience looks like a rock concert with lit phones.

Julia Roberts gained 25 pounds and had her legs amputated at the knees to be able to play Michelle in this scene....

” The Oscar was worth it “  she said.

[emmawoodhouse]

1 minute ago, Churchhoney said:

Wow, they need to do a better job with their calendar! Because that's not listed on the one the 2021 calendar I saw! 

ALthough I suppose so few people work for them any more that they have trouble getting these things done correctly....

Yeah, whoever is in charge of their website does a piss poor job. 😂

[Churchhoney]

So....for people who always think they're getting special messages from God ..... Wonder what they think about the timing of this -- 

Coming right in the middle of the BreakOut Stars' book launch -- about the Duggar faith in the correct Jesus pulling them all together after the Joshley incidents and making everything come out okay....

AND smack dab in the middle of JB's and M's biggest starring engagement of the year? 

Wonder if it crosses their minds that God might be giving them a little nudge here?  Turn back, Oh Duggars! Forswear your foolish ways! 

Edited April 29, 2021 by Churchhoney

[ginger90]

[Annb67]

There IS a God!! 🤣

[GeeGolly]

8 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

Wow, they need to do a better job with their calendar! Because that's not listed on the one the 2021 calendar I saw! 

Its livestreaming if you care to watch.😁

 https://familyconferences.org/live/

[Madtown]

I would love to be a fly on the wall at Jill and Derick's.

[Zella]

Just now, GeeGolly said:

Its livestreaming if you care to watch.😁

 https://familyconferences.org/live/

I've not clicked on the link but does anyone look like they want to bolt off the stage and consult a lawyer? LOL

[emmawoodhouse]

1 minute ago, GeeGolly said:

Its livestreaming if you care to watch.😁

 https://familyconferences.org/live/

Rats, the Duggars have already spoken. I wonder if they hightailed it outta there earlier today when Anna likely called them in tears with the news.

[GeeGolly]

1 minute ago, Zella said:

I've not clicked on the link but does anyone look like they want to bolt off the stage and consult a lawyer? LOL

No but they are singing a song about sins and transgressions. 😂

[Zella]

Just now, GeeGolly said:

No but they are singing a song about sins and transgressions. 😂

Laughing si hard I'm crying! 

I wonder if the feed is going to go dead suddenly like the cow cam at Jed!'s wedding.

[iwantcookies]

Some kids are singing 🤷‍♀️

[GeeGolly]

1 minute ago, iwantcookies said:

Some kids are singing 🤷‍♀️

Yup, its live, they're on to the next act.

[JoanArc]

7 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Maybe ALERT could arrest JB!

"We'll make our own Big Sandy next year... Bill Gothard, beer, and hookers!" -Jim Bob

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No but they are singing a song about sins and transgressions.

Ya know, now the Bates are the Biggest ATI family....maybe the end of ATI is nigh. Assuming Jim Bob is dragged down, I mean...

[iwantcookies]

19 minutes ago, JoanArc said:

 I also realized odds of Jana getting Married just hit zero.

Or she can finally marry Laura 🥳

[Soaper410]

I am STUNNED!

Okay not really.  I wonder if we will get a reaction video with the same vague mess as before. 

Jana:  We had just got over the first thing and the second thing but he was living another different life. 

Josiah:  Well we had just gotten over the 12th bad thing he did when all of  a sudden out of no where this 13th thing came up.  

Joy:  We had no way to know about this new bad thing. 

Jinger *cries*

John:  I had to tell Josh again that I didn't want to be like him and 

Jill:  I knew. 

Derrick: Suck it, molester. 

Anna:  I would leave him but I didn't want to turn on  my my big old molesting, cheating, soon to be felon husband & turn my marriage mess into a disaster. 

God:  It already is.  Its okay to get divorced. Leave him.

John:  I just pushed play on the recording I made saying "I don't want to be like you".  I got tired of telling him that so I just recorded it and play it about once a week. 

 

 

[iwantcookies]

Man Anna really can make some $$$ if she spins it right... Will see tomorrow what the charges are...

 

 

[JoanArc]

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Anna:  I would leave him but I didn't want to turn on  my my big old molesting, cheating, soon to be felon husband & turn my marriage mess into a disaster. 

Anna: Josie, fetch my slippers. Johanna, raise my kids. Jenny, get me a mimosa. Laura, get out of my bed. I'll be living in the girls dorm for the next 6 months rest of my life.

[Annb67]

I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall when the feds pulled up to that house! I wonder if Josh did a “Bye momma, we’re moving to Washington” cry? 

[crazy8s]

18 minutes ago, Soaper410 said:

I am STUNNED!

Okay not really.  I wonder if we will get a reaction video with the same vague mess as before. 

Jana:  We had just got over the first thing and the second thing but he was living another different life. 

Josiah:  Well we had just gotten over the 12th bad thing he did when all of  a sudden out of no where this 13th thing came up.  

Joy:  We had no way to know about this new bad thing. 

Jinger *cries*

John:  I had to tell Josh again that I didn't want to be like him and 

Jill:  I knew. 

Derrick: Suck it, molester. 

Anna:  I would leave him but I didn't want to turn on  my my big old molesting, cheating, soon to be felon husband & turn my marriage mess into a disaster. 

God:  It already is.  Its okay to get divorced. Leave him.

John:  I just pushed play on the recording I made saying "I don't want to be like you".  I got tired of telling him that so I just recorded it and play it about once a week.

Ausitn: oh shit and my court case comes up may 21 - "I married a duggar, they do things a bit different. I didn't know I needed a septic permit to sell that flip we bailed on"

Edited April 30, 2021 by crazy8s

[thehorseofpower]

Holy shit, you guys...I can't believe this and yet, of course, I can. I got my second Covid shot today and as I was reading the first posts about the arrest I suddenly felt like I got hit with a ton of bricks...fine one second and like I haven't slept in 24 hours not five minutes later. This is NOT the night to have to go to bed early, dammit! My eyes are falling shut but you all are killing it with the entertaining posts. 

[cmr2014]

1 hour ago, Panopticon said:

That's about where I am.

JB and Michelle chose to have 18 children after Josh rather than make sure that Josh (and the other older children) had enough attention, space, food, etc.

JB and Michelle chose to make sure Josh-- who once wanted to be a lawyer-- didn't get a proper education that might have given him purpose or control over his life.

JB and Michelle chose to raise Josh in an environment where sex was so stigmatized that there was no practical difference between sexual assault and having a private fantasy in the shower.

JB and Michelle chose to raise Josh to believe that as the oldest brother, he was permitted to demand whatever he liked from his younger sisters.

JB and Michelle chose not to get Josh real help when he, as a teenager, exhibited disturbing/criminal behavior.

JB and Michelle chose to put the burden of Josh's disturbing/criminal behavior on the younger sisters he victimized, while Josh watched this and learned from it.

On JB and Michelle's head be this, whether it's a sexual crime, a financial crime, or something else.

When they did the special with Jill and Jessa after the first scandal, there was a body language expert who was quoted somewhere as saying that JB and J'chelle don't feel any remorse. They think that they're perfect parents.

I believed that then, and I believe that now. 

I would bet that they think that Josh simply needs to pray more. I don't think it would ever occur to them that they bear any responsibility for who he is. In their minds, it's probably (at least a bit) Anna's fault, too -- just not theirs.

I don't think that any of this will cause them to question their beliefs or their decisions. I wouldn't be surprised if they became even more dogmatic and Gothardy, the younger children were even more oppressed, and the married adults put on even shorter leashes.

[mynextmistake]

26 minutes ago, Soaper410 said:

I am STUNNED!

Okay not really.  I wonder if we will get a reaction video with the same vague mess as before. 

Jana:  We had just got over the first thing and the second thing but he was living another different life. 

Josiah:  Well we had just gotten over the 12th bad thing he did when all of  a sudden out of no where this 13th thing came up.  

Joy:  We had no way to know about this new bad thing. 

Jinger *cries*

John:  I had to tell Josh again that I didn't want to be like him and 

Jill:  I knew. 

Derrick: Suck it, molester. 

Anna:  I would leave him but I didn't want to turn on  my my big old molesting, cheating, soon to be felon husband & turn my marriage mess into a disaster. 

God:  It already is.  Its okay to get divorced. Leave him.

John:  I just pushed play on the recording I made saying "I don't want to be like you".  I got tired of telling him that so I just recorded it and play it about once a week. 

 

 

Jessa: It was no big deal! He just got a little too curious about other people’s money. It happens in a lot of used-car businesses. 
 

[3 is enough]

Holy shit.  I went out to run a couple of errands, and while I was waiting in line at the Post Office I started to look at Twitter.  Never in a million years did I expect to see this news.  Held without bail?  It must be fairly serious I would imagine.

I feel for the M kids and even Anna.  I think she is so steeped in the Kool-Aid she just didn't have the strength to leave him 6 years ago.  

I do wonder if this is why there were two quickie weddings.  I hope if Jana and Jerimiah are indeed courting as rumor has it that this will not affect their relationships.  

What a shit show this is going to be.

[Trillium]

7 minutes ago, cmr2014 said:

When they did the special with Jill and Jessa after the first scandal, there was a body language expert who was quoted somewhere as saying that JB and J'chelle don't feel any remorse. They think that they're perfect parents.

I believed that then, and I believe that now. 

I would bet that they think that Josh simply needs to pray more. I don't think it would ever occur to them that they bear any responsibility for who he is. In their minds, it's probably (at least a bit) Anna's fault, too -- just not theirs.

I don't think that any of this will cause them to question their beliefs or their decisions. I wouldn't be surprised if they became even more dogmatic and Gothardy, the younger children were even more oppressed, and the married adults put on even shorter leashes.

No it won’t change their beliefs or make them question their own part in it at all. It was the devil at work! The devil is working hard to destroy Godly Christians like them. 

Edited April 30, 2021 by Trillium

[BigBingerBro]

I only feel bad for the kids.  They are the innocent ones.  Anna is smart enough to know better.  Let's hope whatever Pest is convicted of she makes the right decisions for the benefit of her children.,

[crazy8s]

2 minutes ago, 3 is enough said:

I do wonder if this is why there were two quickie weddings.  I hope if Jana and Jerimiah are indeed courting as rumor has it that this will not affect their relationships. 

two quickie weddings not filmed by TLC and Jason, Josiah and Jed suddenly buying properties under their Llcs

[mynextmistake]

But seriously, there is no question in my mind that JB, at least, knew this was coming. That’s probably why he marched Jed and… The other one who got married recently to the altar so fast. The girl’s‘ families can’t back out now that they’re already lawfully wedded.

The question is, did Anna know? It would seem awfully tone deaf of her to post what she has posted recently if she knew her husband was about to be arrested. I bet they didn’t say a word to her about it.

[65mickey]

I do not have a shread of sympathy for Anna. She was an idiot for continuing to live with and procreate with this pervert. I do however feel for the children. 

[65mickey]

5 minutes ago, BigBingerBro said:

I only feel bad for the kids.  They are the innocent ones.  Anna is smart enough to know better.  Let's hope whatever Pest is convicted of she makes the right decisions for the benefit of her children.,

She won't. She will continue to live with this creep and pop out baby after baby no matter wht he has done. She is in my opinion as disgusting as he is. 

[louannems]

3 hours ago, farmgal4 said:

He looks like a dirty, sleazy old man.  What are his charges, do any of you know?

I thought the Feds came at 5 in the morning and hauled Josh out of bed.  He looks like it.  But the booking intake happened at 1 pm.  Plenty of time for him to shower and dress, except he was probably still in bed.

[SMama]

I though Josh and Anna were (forced?) regulars at Big Sandy. Why would they have stayed in Arkansas? 🤔

TLC just drop this train wreck, hypocritical, waste of air family for good. 

[crazy8s]

I do actually feel sad for anna - she has done everything she was raised to do.

Her dad gave the ok for her to be married to a known child molester. She has been told from childhood on that any bad husband behavior would be her fault. She should be more attentive, forgive, keep sweet or whatever. she is to breed an army for jesus and all.

her brother supposedly offered her and the kids an out at one point but she and the kids were already set up in the duggar dorm rooms at that point.

should Jill, Jessa, jing or Joy find themselves in a similar situation, they too will toe the line and be faithful fundy wives. It is all they know and that is sad

[Zella]

4 minutes ago, louannems said:

I thought the Feds came at 5 in the morning and hauled Josh out of bed.  He looks like it.  But the booking intake happened at 1 pm.  Plenty of time for him to shower and dress, except he was probably still in bed.

Noon might be the equivalent of 5 am for Josh. Not like he has a job he has to wake up for! 

[Minivanessa]

@3 is enough, I think it's been discussed here that Josh's being held "without bail" in this case, just means that because he's being held in county jail on federal charges, bail will be determined by a federal court. I think that hearing is set for tomorrow. That note on his booking just tells the county jail staff that he can't be bailed out right now, and has to be held for the federal hearing.

I'd be surprised if the federal charges are insignificant, but I also expect that at tomorrow's hearing bail and perhaps release conditions will be set for him. I'd be surprised if he doesn't get bonded out of jail pending trial in his case. 

Edited April 30, 2021 by Jeeves

[iwantcookies]

9 minutes ago, louannems said:

I thought the Feds came at 5 in the morning and hauled Josh out of bed.  He looks like it.  But the booking intake happened at 1 pm.  Plenty of time for him to shower and dress, except he was probably still in bed.

He probably stays up until 5-6 am on his computer. Bedtime is during the day while the kids are at TTH. 

[JoanArc]

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When they did the special with Jill and Jessa after the first scandal, there was a body language expert who was quoted somewhere as saying that JB and J'chelle don't feel any remorse. They think that they're perfect parents.

Behold, THE FACE OF REMORSE

[65mickey]

I don't understand why anyone would feel sorry for Anna. 

[BigBingerBro]

7 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

I don't understand why anyone would feel sorry for Anna. 

Right?  She is grown woman and she made her bed, now she has to lie in it.  Like I said previously, the only victims here are the children.

[mynextmistake]

20 minutes ago, crazy8s said:

I do actually feel sad for anna - she has done everything she was raised to do.

Her dad gave the ok for her to be married to a known child molester. She has been told from childhood on that any bad husband behavior would be her fault. She should be more attentive, forgive, keep sweet or whatever. she is to breed an army for jesus and all.

her brother supposedly offered her and the kids an out at one point but she and the kids were already set up in the duggar dorm rooms at that point.

should Jill, Jessa, jing or Joy find themselves in a similar situation, they too will toe the line and be faithful fundy wives. It is all they know and that is sad

I don’t disagree with any of this. But as a mother, I find Anna’s behavior repugnant. I love my husband, we’ve been together for almost 25 years, but if I found out he was an admitted *child molester* I would grab Mini Mistake and nope on out of here so fast that his head would spin. (Note: I am not speculating that Josh abused his kids. I have no reason to think he did. I pray he did not.) But staying with him, and *having more kids with him* after learning he was *capable* of doing that? That’s where Anna loses all my sympathy. When you have a child, your obligation is to put that child and their safety above all else, even your marriage. 

[JoanArc]

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I don’t disagree with any of this. But as a mother, I find Anna’s behavior repugnant.

[Zella]

I understand why people sorry for Anna, and I think it is a perfectly acceptable stance to have. She's in what I am sure is a miserable situation right now.

I understand also the reasons why I think she stays. The reason I don't feel sorry for her, though, personally is the smugness she has continued to show, even after Josh's fall from grace. 

 

Edited April 30, 2021 by Zella

[emmawoodhouse]

2 minutes ago, Zella said:

I understand why people sorry for Anna, and I think it is a perfectly acceptable stance to have. She's in what I am sure is a miserable situation right now.

I understand also the reasons why I think she stays. The reason I don't feel sorry for her, though, personally is the smugness she has continued to show, even after Josh's fall from grace. 

 

Which one? 😂

[Zella]

Just now, emmawoodhouse said:

Which one? 😂

Lol touche! The 2015 ones. After the molestation scandals and Ashley Madison, you'd think she would drop the posturing about her family. 

[Rabbittron]

I see how good his stints in Jesus Jail helped. 

[mittsigirl]

4 hours ago, Future Cat Lady said:

Wow! When will we find out what the charges are?

I think Jer is starting to regret his association with the Duggars.

Sorry, watch so much darn reality tv that I stopped reading about Duggar's when their show was canceled! So who is Jer and what book is he writing? Or which thread is it under? Thanks!

[emmawoodhouse]

Just now, Rabbittron said:

I see how good his stints in Jesus Jail helped. 

He went to Jesus Jail for his "porn addiction." That was probably the least of his problems. 🙄

[Cinnabon]

1 hour ago, Annb67 said:

There IS a God!! 🤣

Isn’t She great?