Josh & Anna Smuggar: A Series of Unfortunate Events

[NEGirl]

Reading his profile "wants/desires", I did not think they were anything too kinky.  Pretty normal and main stream and kind of sad actually. This speaks volumes for the warped Gothard teachings. This is probably only the beginning - I would not be surprised if much more comes out in the next couple of days.

 

On a side note, I never heard of this site.

Edited August 20, 2015 by NEGirl

[subber]

Anna also grew up in an uber religious environment in which even a simple kiss is saved for marriage. She's probably been so conditioned to think physical intimacy is sinful that she just grits her teeth and submits for the purpose of getting pregnant but gets no enjoyment out of it. She probably doesn't even know much about sexual practices beyond the tried and true missionary position.

Strictly a guess, but I have a feeling Josh may have tried to get her to loosen up and go along with his fantasies, but got shut down. Rather than seeking some sort of Christian-based marital therapy that she might have gone along with, he eventually chose an enormously stupid, risky alternative -- seeking sex elsewhere. That he is a risk taker was already well established by the multiple times he molested his sisters under the nose of his parents. No doubt the Ashley Madison website made all kinds of guarantees of confidentiality. However, a man in his position at the time -- the public face of a conservative family values organization - should have known better than to get involved. He's a fool.

I feel bad for the kids, and I hope if Anna doesn't flee immediately, that they get themselves to real counseling. I have a feeling there will be no response from Boob and J'Chelle. There's nothing they can say that would put lipstick on this pig. Just a cluster you-know-what all around.

Edited August 20, 2015 by subber

[CofCinci]

“A Professional/Well Groomed,” “Stylish/Classy,” “Casual Jeans/T-shirt Type,” “Muscular/Fit Body,” ”Petite Figure,” “Tall Height,” “Short Height,” “Long Hair,””Short Hair,” “Girl Next Door,” “Naughty Girl,” “Sense of Humor,” “Imagination,” “Creative and Adventurous,” “Relaxed and Easy Going,” “Aggressive/Take Charge Nature,” “Confidence,” “Discretion/Secrecy,” “A Good Listener,” “Good Personal Hygiene,” “Average Sex Drive,” “High Sex Drive,” “Dislikes Routine,” “Has a Secret Love Nest,” “Disease Free,” “Drug Free,” and “Natural Breasts.”

 

Give me your tired, your poor / Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free / The wretched refuse of your teeming shore / Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me / I lift my lamp beside the golden door!

 

Josh is the Ellis Island of

(RIP Patrice O' Neal).  He'll take them all.  Tall. Short.  Skinny.  Muscular.  As long as you have a bang pad, he's good to go. Edited August 20, 2015 by CofCinci

[Julia]

How do you feel about government-subsidized food programs (free lunch, food stamps, etc.)?

Never – Get a job

You know, this man gets harder and harder to feel sorry for.

[Sew Sumi]

The job response is ironic in light of his downfall. I don't see any evidence of him working since he returned to AR with his tail between his legs. 

[redlaces]

The utter glee. It's a strange world we live in. 

[kalamac]

Hey, maybe he just wanted someone to make him a sandwich, because, you know, anyone can do that. He probably just wanted a sandwich that was a little different from what he got at home...

[Sew Sumi]

The income on the OK Cupid site lines up with what we speculated he made at the FRC. He chose the $100-150k range. I seriously doubt he would have moved to DC for less than 6 figures. It wouldn't have been feasible. There's a lot of truth on that page, but I noticed he didn't put down his zodiac sign. I wonder if he didn't even know what "sign" meant. I could see that. (He's a Pisces.) 

[Satchels of gold]

I always feel glee when those who want to take away the rights of others are exposed.

[redlaces]

Whether people want to admit it or not. The absolute humiliation and degradation and the complete joy and jollies people are having over this could also say something about the "so called" people of tolerance. Dental work, holding a baby, weight, food placement, clothing, friends, etc.. etc.. sigh and etc.. All things that have nothing to do with their beliefs are dissected and frothed over like rabid dogs at a kitten farm. For pages and pages of derps..  What the hell do people expect to happen to children raised the way they were? We open our arms to ahemm.. well.. other people not so accepted by society and are the loudest in saying how they deserve a chance, and look at where they came from.. Josh is a prick, for sure. I still blame his parents. Dollars to fucking doughnuts if it were a a young man or woman raised just as fucked up, but under a different umm belief system. The reactions would be much different. 

[CofCinci]

The utter glee. It's a strange world we live in. 

 

Joshua Duggar actively promoted hate and discrimination towards millions of people.  He deserves everything rotten that comes to him.

[Wishing Well]

I'd like to thank God for Josh Duggar.

He's the gift that keeps on giving.

[MonicaM]

Interesting that this coincides with his sister's pictures on the cover of People!!!  Whatever good will or "forgiveness" they were hoping to cultivate with their appearance is gone.  Since the original story broke, not one of them has done anything except try to salvage their precious, high paying television program.  I have no sympathy for any of them.  

[Italian Ice]

Welp. There goes the "Christian Counseling of Child Molestation Victims" TV show the Duggars were peddling. They have to hate him. If I were solely responsible for destroying my family's financial empire, and then humiliating everyone including my spouse and kids ON A WORLDWIDE LEVEL, I would never,ever be allowed near any family event ever again. 

[FakeJoshDuggar]

Yes, this proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Anna has no access to the finances or Smuggle's email. I doubt she even has access to whatever he calls "his" computer. I guess Anna didn't make the same vow that Prissy did to keep the hubby accountable for his computer use. Oops!

Perhaps she did find out and that's why this was put into Prissy's vows? Maybe she found out and he told her it was a one time thing?

[Ripley68]

Have to admit my first thought was, "someone is setting him up," followed quickly by, "I really hope Anna has the guts to leave his ass." 

 

On the shallow side, I wonder what birth control he used.  The girls must be pissed, they have a people article coming out and once again Josh ruins what should be a big thing for them (damage control on way to tv land).  I really wish I had been a fly on the wall when his parents saw this.  I can't even imagine what is going on in those houses now. Well, I can, but I doubt I'm coming anywhere near the real scene.

 

And.....it makes you wonder about others, Jim Boob et al

Edited August 20, 2015 by Ripley68

[CofCinci]

Interesting that this coincides with his sister's pictures on the cover of People!!!  Whatever good will or "forgiveness" they were hoping to cultivate with their appearance is gone.  Since the original story broke, not one of them has done anything except try to salvage their precious, high paying television program.  I have no sympathy for any of them.  

I don't have any sympathy for them either.  The Duggar family was thisclose to getting everything back.  The People magazine cover would have been a test.  The Ashley Madison hack was a wildcard that knocked all their comeback plans for a loop.

[WhitneyWhit]

HAHAHAHAH...HAHAHAHAAAA..HEHEHEEEEEE.HAHAHA

 

Best.News.Ever

 

I love that this dumb fat ass is being taken down. The arrogance that this shit stain exudes is astonishing. Preaching about morality, working with a hate group, the damn Bible verses on the back of his used cars, labeling the LGBT community as child molesters when he himself is one, preaching about traditional marriage values when he's paying to have affairs. What a glorious day. Too bad we never hear from any of the women he fellowshipped with.

 

And I don't feel sorry for Anna one bit, not after she basically excused child molestation.

[JoanArc]

http://gawker.com/is-this-josh-duggars-okcupid-profile-1725202825

 

From the profile:

 

 

You're in a new relationship and your partner admits that they have had 14 sexual partners. Does that sound like a lot to you?

Edited August 20, 2015 by JoanArc

[Julia]

Whether people want to admit it or not...

I understand your visceral reaction, and I said something similar yesterday about the dogpile going on in the gossip magazine comments. And yes, unlike the Duggar family and their associates, I do believe that expressing joy over the downfall of people who live their lives differently than I do is in questionable taste.

That said, we've been censoriously nannied about not judging Josh by people who regularly consign others they know nothing about to hell, not unlike Josh himself. I think it's a bit much to ask that people not have as one component of their reaction a recognition that a person they've been judged by was caught in hypocrisy.

WADR.

Edited August 20, 2015 by Julia

[EarlGreyTea]

HAHAHAHAH...HAHAHAHAAAA..HEHEHEEEEEE.HAHAHA

 

Best.News.Ever

 

I love that this dumb fat ass is being taken down. The arrogance that this shit stain exudes is astonishing. Preaching about morality, working with a hate group, the damn Bible verses on the back of his used cars, labeling the LGBT community as child molesters when he himself is one, preaching about traditional marriage values when he's paying to have affairs. What a glorious day. Too bad we never hear from any of the women he fellowshipped with.

 

And I don't feel sorry for Anna one bit, not after she basically excused child molestation.

 

I've been having the worst week at work. Your post made me cackle. We can all go to bed knowing whatever kind of rough day we've had....at least we're not Josh Duggar (I also know my cackling doesn't say much about me as a person).

Edited August 20, 2015 by EarlGreyTea

[JennyMominFL]

Whether people want to admit it or not. The absolute humiliation and degradation and the complete joy and jollies people are having over this could also say something about the "so called" people of tolerance. Dental work, holding a baby, weight, food placement, clothing, friends, etc.. etc.. sigh and etc.. All things that have nothing to do with their beliefs are dissected and frothed over like rabid dogs at a kitten farm. For pages and pages of derps..  What the hell do people expect to happen to children raised the way they were? We open our arms to ahemm.. well.. other people not so accepted by society and are the loudest in saying how they deserve a chance, and look at where they came from.. Josh is a prick, for sure. I still blame his parents. Dollars to fucking doughnuts if it were a a young man or woman raised just as fucked up, but under a different umm belief system. The reactions would be much different. 

Aww, you sure told us

[cmr2014]

Still much more pissed at Jim Bob and Michelle over this. It could have been prevented. Those poor kids not being able to discover and explore. His profile could have been much more gross. It is actually pretty tame. He's a typical guy that has been completely fucked up sexually by a twisted "religious" system. Most people get the opportunity to test the waters, wake up with regrets, figure things out. They have no chance in that. That is fucked the fucking fucked up. 

I completely agree -- JB and J'chelle are at least partially to blame for Josh's behavior. Not touching anyone, ever, until engagement; not kissing anyone, ever, until marriage; not interacting with other young men and women, etc. does not result (for most people) in a lifetime of monogamous marital bliss.

[Satchels of gold]

Whether people want to admit it or not. The absolute humiliation and degradation and the complete joy and jollies people are having over this could also say something about the "so called" people of tolerance. Dental work, holding a baby, weight, food placement, clothing, friends, etc.. etc.. sigh and etc.. All things that have nothing to do with their beliefs are dissected and frothed over like rabid dogs at a kitten farm. For pages and pages of derps..  What the hell do people expect to happen to children raised the way they were? We open our arms to ahemm.. well.. other people not so accepted by society and are the loudest in saying how they deserve a chance, and look at where they came from.. Josh is a prick, for sure. I still blame his parents. Dollars to fucking doughnuts if it were a a young man or woman raised just as fucked up, but under a different umm belief system. The reactions would be much different.

And if The Duggars were umm ,a different color such a large family would not be celebrated.

[CofCinci]

Too bad we never hear from any of the women he fellowshipped with.

Night is still young.

[momofsquid]

Joshie is still just a little too curious about girls. He's just a young boy making little mistakes, over and over and over.

 

I unabashedly join in the glee. This news has made my week. Someone please, please get a camera into JB & M's hidey-hole right now! I need to see their reaction. And I'm eager to hear how they will deny it. I predict they'll say it was an imposter stealing poor Josh's identity or something along that line.

[farmgal4]

I just now found out about all of this. I'm wondering what other secrets Josh has hidden that no one knows about? I'd love to have access to his computer for a couple of hours. Josh's life is slowly, but surely, falling to pieces, isn't it? I really do hate this for Anna; I can't even begin to imagine what she's going thru right now.

[Italian Ice]

The Duggars will say Obama's a user too (he's not), blame the LIBRUL MEEEEDEEEUHHHH, and say that Joshie boy has asked God for forgiveness, so it's all good now. 

 

Jesus.

 

I have no love for Jessa and Jill, but how effing pissed must they be right now? Has their cover come out yet? It's not too late to shove them to the sidebar for Josh's story

Edited August 20, 2015 by Italian Ice

[OhioMom]

http://gawker.com/is-this-josh-duggars-okcupid-profile-1725202825

 

From the profile:

 

Also, at the bottom of that article:

 

Update: An earlier version of this incorrectly referred to Josh Duggar’s Ashley Madison username as “joesmithsonnwa,” when “joesmithsonnwa@gmail.com” was actually his Ashley Madison login. We’ve updated the post to reflect this.

 

So...I'm not sure this means they can't be one in the same, or not.

[CofCinci]

I'm wondering what other secrets Josh has hidden that no one knows about? I'd love to have access to his computer for a couple of hours. 

Pornhub, redtube.  Probably just the vanilla categories.

[Italian Ice]

It means they forgot to add the @gmail.com in their story 

[BitterApple]

I wonder if Anna feels like an asshole now for posting all those "Real Marriage" memes on her social media.

I have a feeling the Duggars won't be receiving an invitation to the next Bates wedding.

[Anne Elk]

I do feel bad for Anna. I doubt very much that Josh turned to Ashley Madison because she wouldn't loosen up. I think he just found out that whatever he was getting at home wasn't enough for him. That would fit in with the turn-ons list -- he's not looking for something kinky or crazy, he just wants someone. Anyone. 

 

And I am shocked, shocked I tell you, that two people who had never been alone in a room together discovered after they married that their sex drives were incompatible. 

Edited August 20, 2015 by Anne Elk

[cereality]

Is Josh really THIS dumb??

 

I mean I guess I know the answer. When he got the job in DC, he should have breathed a sigh of relief knowing he "got away" with the molestation -- nothing came out in the employer's background check etc. But then he should have gone to DC knowing that it is pretty common to dig up dirt on anyone whose politics you don't like; people don't like his families "conservative" -- no abortions ever, all LGBT people are pedophiles -- kind of politics PLUS he and his family are C list public figures. He had to know that people wouldn't like that he got a 150k job with a hate group while having no education/credentials to speak of -- and thus they'd be gunning for him to make him look bad -- whether that meant exposing the molestation or anything else he did.

 

So given that background why the eff does he sign up on Ashley Madison?? No matter what assurances they give you, in this day and age, what website is secure and totally hacker proof. Heck - if Sony, Anthem, and the federal government can be hit by hackers -- he didn't think some random affairs website could ever be hit?? If he was so desperate for sex, weren't there other ways to get it?? People have been having affairs since the dawn of time -- they picked up women in different places; they didn't sign up on an internet service using their real name and a credit card that could be tracked back to them in 2 seconds by anyone with a grudge.

[JoanArc]

 

I have a feeling the Duggars won't be receiving an invitation to the next Bates wedding.

Or Amy's. She'll be, um, busy that weekend. Doing Stuff. There goes her gift grab, too.

[CofCinci]

Question for everyone:  Do you think Josh would spend $986.76 at $19.99/month (stopping subscription when the molestation scandal broke) if the site wasn't getting him laid?  I'm curious as to what everyone thinks.

Edited August 20, 2015 by CofCinci

[TaxNerd]

First the Jared from Subway guilty plea and now this, all in the same day!

I don't know why these stories constantly surprise me, I should realize by now people are very different behind closed doors.

So far Josh is the biggest celeb outed by the Ashley M. hack, though that may change soon. I wonder how an "oops" baby would be treated by the fundy world-isn't every child a blessing?

[Lillybee]

I wonder how the leg humpters will explain this away.

[Julia]

Is Josh really THIS dumb??

 

I mean I guess I know the answer. When he got the job in DC, he should have breathed a sigh of relief knowing he "got away" with the molestation -- nothing came out in the employer's background check etc. But then he should have gone to DC knowing that it is pretty common to dig up dirt on anyone whose politics you don't like; people don't like his families "conservative" -- no abortions ever, all LGBT people are pedophiles -- kind of politics PLUS he and his family are C list public figures.

The thing is, though, you're assuming liberals brought him down. I think it's equally as likely that the campaign of someone who didn't want to have to deal with Mssrs. Santorum and Huckabee was behind this.

Edited August 20, 2015 by Julia

[TaxNerd]

Question for everyone: Do you think Josh would spend $986.76 at $19.99/month (stopping subscription when the molestation scandal broke) if the site wasn't getting him laid? I'm curious as to what everyone thinks.

Only Anna is that naive.

[Julia]

Only Anna is that naive.

Except, according to the haxxorz, well over 90% of the users of that site were men, so if that was Josh's account, he may never have actually connected with a woman.

[MarysWetBar]

No-one can make me feel bad for enjoying the downfall of this group of grifting hypocrites. No way. If he was an average joe struggling every day to pay his mortgage at a job he hated to feed his family and going home to a wife who was always nagging or acting eternally disappointed in him, I could at least have empathy for him. But he instead is a smug hypocritical asshole who liked to sit on high and make loud proclamations about how anyone who doesn't agree with his phony values was going straight to hell. HOW DARE HE??

Fuck him and his parents. Not even gonna feel sorry for his wife who is a grown ass woman and can leave him anytime. But she won't.

Edited August 20, 2015 by MarysWetBar

[cereality]

I completely agree -- JB and J'chelle are at least partially to blame for Josh's behavior. Not touching anyone, ever, until engagement; not kissing anyone, ever, until marriage; not interacting with other young men and women, etc. does not result (for most people) in a lifetime of monogamous marital bliss.

I am not defending JB and Michelle -- I think they are vile humans and parents BUT many many people all over the world don't touch anyone until engagement, don't kiss until their wedding date, and only have same sex friends. This happens in almost every orthodox Muslim and Jewish community that I know of including many in the U.S. Yet they do not end up molesting their sisters or having affairs; I'm sure some do have affairs, but I don't have any reason to believe that the incidence is any higher than in the general population.

 

Beyond the "rules" re touching and kissing and friendship, I think what has effed up the kids more than anything else is their extreme isolation. In those orthodox communities, you may be going to an all boys or all girls school, never having a boyfriend/girlfriend, not kissing or having sex until marriage BUT you do get out of the house and you do have same sex friends. It's through those friend interactions that you indirectly learn a lot of right and wrong -- not just through your parents beating you over the head with their beliefs. By denying their kids that socialization and completely isolating them, it's like Josh lost all sense of what's right or wrong and lost all sense of the fact that he is no better than anyone else so yes -- he can get caught up in a scandal if he cheats on his wife just like Joe Schmoe down the street will get caught if he cheats.

[CofCinci]

Not even gonna feel sorry for his wife who is a grown ass woman and can leave him anytime. But she won't.

Anna can have her own wet bar, just like Meri.

[cereality]

I wonder how the leg humpters will explain this away.

I haven't been on this website in recent weeks (and I come back to find this!) -- how did the leg humpers explain away molesting his sisters? What possible justification was there -- or was it -- the media/authorities got it all wrong, that's not what happened.

[JoanArc]

 

Question for everyone:  Do you think Josh would spend $986.76 at $19.99/month (stopping subscription when the molestation scandal broke) if the site wasn't getting him laid?  I'm curious as to what everyone thinks.

 I don't know. I think it's entirely possible he met a woman/women through sites other than AM. Hell, Craigslist is free, hookers are cheap, and every strip club can get a man sex and drugs. I'd have a hard time believing he didn't get any SOMEWHERE. It's too pathetic to admit you TRIED to have an affair, but no one would have you.

[Italian Ice]

Someone on Twitter made a fake OkCupid profile, and these are the answers that matched up with Josh' account. It has to be him.

[cereality]

Except, according to the haxxorz, well over 90% of the users of that site were men, so if that was Josh's account, he may never have actually connected with a woman.

But what about the affair guarantee? He was paying extra to make sure he did hook up in a few months -- do you really thinking he was paying it and it was getting refunded every month bc the website couldn't connect him with a woman? I doubt it -- at that point he would have started signing up on other websites.

[Rane]

Saw this on twitter

 

http://twitter.com/live2tivo/status/634165473131765760/photo/1

 

Tally Deushane ‏@live2tivo  32m32 minutes ago
If anyone is curious, I made a fake OKCupid to see Josh Duggar's answers to compatibility questions.

 

 

Edited August 20, 2015 by Rane

[merriebreeze]

The Josh Duggar Ashley Madison account has to be bogus. He's not that stoopid, people.