NextIteration July 21, 2015 Share July 21, 2015 Caramello, I'm so sorry for your loss, gentle hugs. ♥ 4 Link to comment
NEGirl July 21, 2015 Share July 21, 2015 Caramello - I am so sorry for your loss. thoughts and prayers are with you and your family. 4 Link to comment
andromeda331 July 21, 2015 Share July 21, 2015 Caramello - I am so sorry for your loss. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family. 5 Link to comment
PinkSprinkles July 21, 2015 Share July 21, 2015 Meredith seems like a good name for her to grow into. My parents chose names for my siblings and I that are more "adult" and seemed old for little kids, but they had the foresight to realize we'd be adults longer than toddlers. Meredith is a very sound, professional, adult name and should she ever pursue a career she will have better luck than if she was named Makinleeanuh or something. 10 Link to comment
kokapetl July 21, 2015 Share July 21, 2015 I'm impressed by their choice. I was certain The Smuggars were gonna go for something with a Mc, like McKeighla or McKynnlee. Girls tend to get the creative end of the stick, too. 4 Link to comment
Lukeysboat July 21, 2015 Share July 21, 2015 It's The Sam's Club community room at Arvest Stadium. It's hardly a luxury suite. It's 9 dollars a person. I still don't understand the assumption that this room/photo is affiliated with Sam's Club. The logo on the wall says Sam's Furniture, a store which does not appear to be associated with Walmart/Sam's Club. 1 Link to comment
kokapetl July 21, 2015 Share July 21, 2015 I still don't understand the assumption that this room/photo is affiliated with Sam's Club. The logo on the wall says Sam's Furniture, a store which does not appear to be associated with Walmart/Sam's Club. Yeah, I couldn't find any info about this "Sam's Furniture". I also mistook the blown up photo on the wall behind them as a crowd of people just outside the room. Link to comment
Granny58 July 21, 2015 Share July 21, 2015 Seeing that announcement and seeing the picture (and some of the media coverage "Congratulate them"?! ) gives me a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach. Josh has never received adequate professional treatment or faced the consequences of his actions. His parents seem determined to minimize and deny their son's crimes and have failed him. Worst of all, his wife is brainwashed and stuck in a cult where women have no options, she doesn't seem to be able to protect her children. Children are precious. I lost my youngest child (age 25) unexpectedly last week and it really saddens me that no one is protecting these little ones Caramellow - I am SO SO SO Sorry to hear of your loss. I wish I had words to make it better, but I know there aren't any. Again, I'm so sorry. 5 Link to comment
MyPeopleAreNordic July 21, 2015 Share July 21, 2015 (edited) Meredith seems like a good name for her to grow into. My parents chose names for my siblings and I that are more "adult" and seemed old for little kids, but they had the foresight to realize we'd be adults longer than toddlers. Meredith is a very sound, professional, adult name and should she ever pursue a career she will have better luck than if she was named Makinleeanuh or something.This ^^^. Let's just say if I needed a doctor or lawyer and the two to choose from were Meredith Smith or MacKaeylee Smith, I'm probably gonna choose Meredith. (Given that I know nothing about their professional reputations or anything.)I guess it is true that in Duggarworld, no one is probably that worried about a girl's name being a good fit for a professional adult woman, since the girls aren't encouraged to work outside of the home. As others have noted, the boys however, are given pretty traditional names/spellings that would be fitting for business owners, pilots, politicans, etc. Edited July 21, 2015 by MyPeopleAreNordic 7 Link to comment
lookeyloo July 21, 2015 Share July 21, 2015 Caramello, also so very sorry about your loss. My thoughts are with you and yours - 4 Link to comment
redlaces July 21, 2015 Share July 21, 2015 (edited) I still don't understand the assumption that this room/photo is affiliated with Sam's Club. The logo on the wall says Sam's Furniture, a store which does not appear to be associated with Walmart/Sam's Club. Because it is on the Arvest Stadium webpage...They do have luxury suites. Though, that photo was clearly taken in the community room. If you can find your way around the internet in the most simple form, this information is easy peasy to find. http://www.milb.com/content/page.jsp?ymd=20071127&content_id=41076350&sid=t1350&vkey=team5 Damn it to hell. I don't even care. It's just the rabid misinformation and speculation.. It would not surprise me at all if they did have a luxury suite. I was only pointing out that from that one photo that was first seen, the speculation was not even close to on point. I can surely believe they rented out the community room for photo op's and then went up to the suite to do their own thing. Edited July 21, 2015 by redlaces 2 Link to comment
kokapetl July 21, 2015 Share July 21, 2015 (edited) Because it is on the Arvest Stadium webpage...They do have luxury suites. Though, that photo was clearly taken in the community room. If you can find your way around the internet in the most simple form, this information is easy peasy to find. http://www.milb.com/content/page.jsp?ymd=20071127&content_id=41076350&sid=t1350&vkey=team5 Damn it to hell. I don't even care. It's just the rabid misinformation and speculation.. It would not surprise me at all if they did have a luxury suite. I was only pointing out that from that one photo that was first seen, the speculation was not even close to on point. I can surely believe they rented out the community room for photo op's and then went up to the suite to do their own thing. I'm confused. Does Sam's Furniture not own their suite? Can anyone, for example, the KKK, hire that suite?ETA: That stadium, which seats 5,500-7000, cost the City of Bentonville $50 million freakin dollars!!! Edited July 21, 2015 by Kokapetl 2 Link to comment
Sew Sumi July 21, 2015 Share July 21, 2015 I think the confusion with the room pic (the one where they're sitting down with the TV on the wall) vs. the Sam's FURNITURE advertising (where they're standing) are TWO different places. I mistook the former for a luxury suite because the room has a TV. I acknowledged my error; not knowing what the suites look like in a single A ballpark threw me. Mea culpa! Usually, luxury suites are available to people/businesses who have some sort of business relationship with the box owner. Some are owned by "regular" people, maybe more prevalent at lower-level ballparks, but certainly not at the level of Yankee Stadium unless one is a megastar and can afford it. Sam's Furniture may well have a luxury box at Arvest Stadium, but I sure as hell don't care enough to research it, plus, we're going more and more OT with this discussion. Suffice it to say that Josh was there Sunday night (and so was Jessa, in a new pic I saw in which she looks like she could be wearing capris but could also be a bunched up skirt). I'm sure Joe (or Sam's) comped all of the Duggars who attended. I also imagine that kids get in cheaper; that's pretty universal with baseball games, no matter the level, so that's a lot less money for whoever paid, given the gaggle of kids we saw. 2 Link to comment
GeeGolly July 21, 2015 Share July 21, 2015 ... Children are precious. I lost my youngest child (age 25) unexpectedly last week and it really saddens me that no one is protecting these little ones Carmellow, I'm so sorry. Words feel meaningless right now. Wishing for you moments of peace. 5 Link to comment
Matryoshka July 21, 2015 Share July 21, 2015 As for Josh at the baseball game- if Anna's cool with it, then great. But maybe don't Instagram it as fodder for those who feel like he should be at home or want to despise everything he does. It probably wouldn't hurt your image if you just let us think you were at home helping with the new baby, Josh. Instead you shout to the world via social media that you're not. In his defense (ick) Josh didn't post anything about the game, a family friend did. 4 Link to comment
kaleidoscope July 21, 2015 Share July 21, 2015 Caramellow, blessings, comfort and {{{HUGS}}} ♥ 4 Link to comment
Sew Sumi July 21, 2015 Share July 21, 2015 Caramello, let me add my deepest condolences and send healing vibes to you during what has to be the most difficult time of your life. <3 5 Link to comment
BitterApple July 21, 2015 Share July 21, 2015 I just can't with all the God awful spellings of girls' names nowadays. My head hurts thinking about it. Was Meredith born at the TTH? From the most recent pics I saw of Josh's place, it didn't look like it was ready yet. 5 Link to comment
Missy Vixen July 21, 2015 Share July 21, 2015 Children are precious. I lost my youngest child (age 25) unexpectedly last week and it really saddens me that no one is protecting these little ones Caramello, I am so sorry for your loss. I hope you are surrounded by family, friends and comfort. 4 Link to comment
Rhetorica July 21, 2015 Share July 21, 2015 Caramello, I can imagine nothing worse. Sending comforting light and peace to you and your loved ones. 4 Link to comment
HundFan July 21, 2015 Share July 21, 2015 Caramello, I can only imagine the unfathomable depths of such a loss. I am so sorry. My deepest sympathies to you and your family during this sad, sad time. 4 Link to comment
Julia July 21, 2015 Share July 21, 2015 Caramello, I've been trying to think of something useful to say, and I've decided that I'll never say anything that way. I wish you peace. 6 Link to comment
flyingdi July 22, 2015 Share July 22, 2015 Is Sam's Furniture related in any way to Sam's Club? That's the part I can't figure out. Link to comment
ginger90 July 22, 2015 Share July 22, 2015 Is Sam's Furniture related in any way to Sam's Club? That's the part I can't figure out. They're not related. 1 Link to comment
Skittl1321 July 22, 2015 Share July 22, 2015 (edited) I'm confused. Does Sam's Furniture not own their suite? Can anyone, for example, the KKK, hire that suite? ETA: That stadium, which seats 5,500-7000, cost the City of Bentonville $50 million freakin dollars!!! Our Class A minor league stadium doesn't have suite owners; they have 12 luxury suites and any group can rent them out. They also have non-suite group facilities like a deck with tables and chairs. The cost for suites is $25 pp for tickets, and most suites have minimum numbers (regular tickets are like half that); higher if you want catering. (It was much more affordable- 16 million dollars in 2001.) So Sam's might not own their suite. They might just rent it out for employee functions. So the Duggars were probably just guests of owners/employees. I don't see a problem with Josh going out right after his daughter was born. Anna very well might have WANTED quiet time; afterall, he took the other kids with him. Edited July 22, 2015 by Skittl1321 1 Link to comment
ramble July 22, 2015 Share July 22, 2015 Just as a btw, Arvest Ballpark is actually in Springdale not Bentonville. Arvest is a Bentonville based bank group (Walton founded) that has naming rights for the stadium. Also, as mentioned, Sam's Furniture isn't affiliated with Sam's Club or a Walton based business. Here is the furniture store website with an ad y'all can enjoy in all its local cheesiness. As someone who wouldn't have cared if my ex went somewhere after I'd just had my kids I personally wouldn't have a problem with Josh going to a game, but I understand why some people wouldn't be okay with that. I do like the name Meredith. I know a young child & a 20 year old with the name so I've never thought of it as old. I'm glad that Anna had an uneventful delivery & that she & baby Mere are healthy! 1 Link to comment
lookeyloo July 22, 2015 Share July 22, 2015 If they are staying with the Duggars (they are there for the ring ceremony) with Joy holding the baby, maybe Anna is surrounded by various potentially helpful Duggars. Or those same various potentially helpful Duggars could go to her house. Maybe she is tired of him hanging around and needed a break from him. 3 Link to comment
Sew Sumi July 22, 2015 Share July 22, 2015 Our Class A minor league stadium doesn't have suite owners; they have 12 luxury suites and any group can rent them out. They also have non-suite group facilities like a deck with tables and chairs. The cost for suites is $25 pp for tickets, and most suites have minimum numbers (regular tickets are like half that); higher if you want catering. (It was much more affordable- 16 million dollars in 2001.) So Sam's might not own their suite. They might just rent it out for employee functions. So the Duggars were probably just guests of owners/employees. I don't see a problem with Josh going out right after his daughter was born. Anna very well might have WANTED quiet time; afterall, he took the other kids with him. They left Mackynzie at home (apparently with Jordyn, who is also not pictured in any of the shots I've seen from the ballpark excursion). So, the Smuggars seem to have split this strictly down gender lines. If Anna wanted peace and quiet, wouldn't Josh have taken ALL of the kids? A five year old is really more of a hindrance than a help, even a doting big sister. 2 Link to comment
GEML July 22, 2015 Share July 22, 2015 The little girls may not have wanted to go. My daughter is the same age as Michael, and I know she would rather not go to sporting events. Given that she was likely with Jordyn (who needs a good friend too) they probably played together happily. 2 Link to comment
Barb23 July 22, 2015 Share July 22, 2015 Aaaand less than 24 hours after the birth of his daughter, Josh is off gallivanting about at a baseball game with the Sam's guy, various Duggars, and Sierra. https://instagram.com/p/5V25y5RhCp/?taken-by=joe_donaldson_1 Is that a Duggar Lost Girl in the front row wearing the floor sweeping chevron dress/skirt? (Jenny?) Doesn't matter who she is but why at her age is she wearing such a long skirt that looks like a ladies dress, not a girls size? I can't imagine her navigating steps wearing that thing. If it is Jenny, I guess she grabbed it off the clothes pile & dressed herself with no guidance from Jana & Jessa who must have been busy. Caramello - so sorry for your loss. You & your family will be in my prayers. 1 Link to comment
BitterApple July 22, 2015 Share July 22, 2015 Kenzie and Jordyn seem really close. I think it's great for Jordyn to have a friend her own age so she doesn't have to be stuck with Josie Grossie all the time. 1 Link to comment
GEML July 22, 2015 Share July 22, 2015 My daughter picked a maxi dress out at a store and refused to be parted from it. Every time she wore it, the hem looked like it had been dragged through the mud, because, well, some days it had. It looked a lot like Jenny's. 2 Link to comment
HundFan July 22, 2015 Share July 22, 2015 (edited) Baseball suites aren't always as posh as you'd think. My husband is a season ticket holder (4 annual regular seats), and he gets a free "thank you" suite for one day each season. The freebie's location moves each year, but, like the majority of suites, ours is never that close to the action. In fact, our free suite is often way beyond center field and seemingly MILES away from the plate. But for the several en suite TV's (little ones, NOT big screens, BTW), you truly need binocs to discern a ball from a strike. Inside the box, you get @20 stacked seats, a sofa and a small bar and fridge that come completely empty. You have to pay $$$ for the stadium to stock food and drinks. Popcorn for 4 for $30 anyone? Then you serve yourself - before generously tipping whoever delivered your $9 hot dog and $10 beer. A "suite" experience can vary, depending on the layout of the ballpark (newer parks tend to move suites closer in). And no doubt corporate suites can be as plush as someone wants to make them. Long term subscribers can customize the interiors and usually have the $$$ for obscene amounts of food and drink. But the lay-out of all suites (at least in our stadium) is always the same and only a few get the coveted spots behind home plate and up the first and third baselines. Don't know the specifics of the Sam's suite, but I'd like to think Josh's "suite" experience was more mundane. He probably had 6 hot dogs, 7 sodas and a churro while squinting at the game and worrying how to get out of the ballpark without being heckled. Edited July 22, 2015 by HundFan 1 Link to comment
TEEVEE July 22, 2015 Share July 22, 2015 The suites at the University of Arkansas baseball field are not a big deal. There are a few very, very nice ones, owned by Wal-Mart execs but most are very plain. I am native to NWA and this Sam's store is new. I frankly am glad to see Josh out and about again. His actions as a minor, are the sole responsibility of his parent's. I am hopeful that his molesting was a teenage thing and he doesn't have a proclivity to keep doing that. Throw tomatoes at me, but I can only imagine what he has been through as well. His name is forever tainted and I blame his parent's. Assuming he truly did change, that he no longer has these thoughts or desires and has been forgiven by the Lord and his sisters, I worry for his state of mind and future. Baseball suites aren't always as posh as you'd think. My husband is a season ticket holder (4 annual regular seats), and he gets a free "thank you" suite for one day each season. The freebie's location moves each year, but, like the majority of suites, ours is never that close to the action. In fact, our free suite is often way beyond center field and seemingly MILES away from the plate. But for the several en suite TV's (little ones, NOT big screens, BTW), you truly need binocs to discern a ball from a strike. Inside the box, you get @20 stacked seats, a sofa and a small bar and fridge that come completely empty. You have to pay $$$ for the stadium to stock food and drinks. Popcorn for 4 for $30 anyone? Then you serve yourself - before generously tipping whoever delivered your $9 hot dog and $10 beer. A "suite" experience can vary, depending on the layout of the ballpark (newer parks tend to move suites closer in). And no doubt corporate suites can be as plush as someone wants to make them. Long term subscribers can customize the interiors and usually have the $$$ for obscene amounts of food and drink. But the lay-out of all suites (at least in our stadium) is always the same and only a few get the coveted spots behind home plate and up the first and third baselines. Don't know the specifics of the Sam's suite, but I'd like to think Josh's "suite" experience was more mundane. He probably had 6 hot dogs, 7 sodas and a churro while squinting at the game and worrying how to get out of the ballpark without being heckled. Looks to me like Josh has dropped some weight. Maybe he is working out with Ben. Link to comment
Missy Vixen July 22, 2015 Share July 22, 2015 My husband has been in IT for 25 years. His former employer had a suite at Seattle's Safeco Field for several years. Since the big boss thought my husband was his personal tech support, we got special treats like suite tickets to numerous games. (Everyone who's ever lived in the Seattle area is most likely rolling their eyes right now. We love 'em, but M's tickets can be hit or miss.) And suite tickets at Safeco are expensive. Any suite there is luxurious. My point, and I do have one: One has to wonder about the wisdom of any company offering their "suite" tickets to Smuggar right now, palatial or not. Does it help their bottom line that photos of Smuggar (helpfully pointing at the company's signage if the rest of us did not get his message!) and his siblings were disseminated all over social media? IMHO of course, but I wouldn't be shopping at that retailer, and I would be telling other people to not shop there, either. It would be interesting to know if the Duggars are as radioactive in that community as they are across the rest of the country. It would also be interesting to know if there was backlash as a result. Then again, there seems to be plenty over Birth Gate right now. Maybe everyone who's sick of this family and their fame-whoring ways is in outrage overload. 7 Link to comment
truthtalk2014 July 22, 2015 Share July 22, 2015 If they are staying with the Duggars (they are there for the ring ceremony) with Joy holding the baby, maybe Anna is surrounded by various potentially helpful Duggars. Or those same various potentially helpful Duggars could go to her house. Maybe she is tired of him hanging around and needed a break from him. He hasn't worked in quite a while. I'm sure she is sick of him and was happy to be semi-alone. I know I would be. A "suite" experience can vary, depending on the layout of the ballpark (newer parks tend to move suites closer in). And no doubt corporate suites can be as plush as someone wants to make them. Long term subscribers can customize the interiors and usually have the $$$ for obscene amounts of food and drink. But the lay-out of all suites (at least in our stadium) is always the same and only a few get the coveted spots behind home plate and up the first and third baselines. Don't know the specifics of the Sam's suite, but I'd like to think Josh's "suite" experience was more mundane. He probably had 6 hot dogs, 7 sodas and a churro while squinting at the game and worrying how to get out of the ballpark without being heckled. Okay- I am sending myself to the prayer closet because this made and continues to make me LMAO. I wonder if they serve donut burgers (for desert of course). I know - off to the closet I go. 3 Link to comment
ramble July 22, 2015 Share July 22, 2015 (edited) The suites at the University of Arkansas baseball field are not a big deal. There are a few very, very nice ones, owned by Wal-Mart execs but most are very plain. I am native to NWA and this Sam's store is new. Josh was at a Naturals game not the U of A. Also, Sam's Furniture has been in business in NWA since the early '90s. If you're local you may remember old ads with a large, older man yelling at the screen: "Get it at Sam's" while he circled his arms & pointed at the screen. Back to Joshie, he & Anna do make pretty babies.ETA: I kind of want a churro now. Edited July 22, 2015 by ramble 1 Link to comment
HundFan July 22, 2015 Share July 22, 2015 Can we all have churros in the Prayer Closet? 11 Link to comment
kokapetl July 22, 2015 Share July 22, 2015 (edited) Josh was at a Naturals game not the U of A. Also, Sam's Furniture has been in business in NWA since the early '90s. If you're local you may remember old ads with a large, older man yelling at the screen: "Get it at Sam's" while he circled his arms & pointed at the screen. Back to Joshie, he & Anna do make pretty babies. ETA: I kind of want a churro now. Edited July 22, 2015 by Kokapetl 1 Link to comment
ariel July 23, 2015 Share July 23, 2015 Looks to me like Josh has dropped some weight. Maybe he is working out with Ben. Or maybe Josh has been working with Bin cleaning the toilets. 5 Link to comment
dillpickles July 23, 2015 Share July 23, 2015 Or maybe Josh has been working with Bin cleaning the toilets. Maybe Josh was running from Bin and his righteous fury. 5 Link to comment
Jellybeans July 23, 2015 Share July 23, 2015 Children are precious. I lost my youngest child (age 25) unexpectedly last week and it really saddens me that no one is protecting these little ones I am sorry about you loss. I lost my daughter (age 34) 6 years ago. Feel free to join us at the Small talks thread...we all get and give support there. Again, no words. 1 Link to comment
Happyfatchick July 23, 2015 Share July 23, 2015 I was trolling around FB and saw a post by a "friend" I haven't talked to in years. It was a pic of her grandson, and she posted something about "Jaxsyn" jumping in the pool. JAXSYN??? Holy cow, I am now ready to say Anna can have her weird Y's!!! 5 Link to comment
Ljohnson1987 July 24, 2015 Share July 24, 2015 (edited) So sorry for your loss, Caramellow. I cannot imagine the pain you must be feeling. <3 Edited July 24, 2015 by Ljohnson1987 2 Link to comment
Cherrio July 24, 2015 Share July 24, 2015 I was trolling around FB and saw a post by a "friend" I haven't talked to in years. It was a pic of her grandson, and she posted something about "Jaxsyn" jumping in the pool. JAXSYN??? Holy cow, I am now ready to say Anna can have her weird Y's!!! Sounds like a medication for erectile dysfunction. 10 Link to comment
Libby96 July 25, 2015 Share July 25, 2015 I'm a teacher, and I had a student named "Jaxsyn" last year. Sweet kid, who obviously had overly creative parents. Back to Josh and Anna, I do like the name Meredith Grace. I was sure M4 would be "Madisyn." I'm happy to be wrong, but I do think that little girl's name, regardless of what it may have been, will be the least of her troubles. 3 Link to comment
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