Jessa, Ben and Their Brood: Making a (Diaper) Mountain out of a Mold House

[frenchtoast]

Let's swing back to the Seewalds, please.

[Malvina]

[poopchute]

2 minutes ago, Malvina said:

How is this modest? Seriously asking.

[Caracoa1]

Spurgeon's birth was traumatic and scary..Do you think it is crossing her mind that this could happen again as her due date draws near?  Does anyone know if she sought prenatal care or if she is "winging it" again?

[sheshark]

Jessa'a practically doing a backbend here, still pushing the 'twins?' Game.  But at least she stopped with the crab claw.

Edited January 8, 2017 by sheshark

[Nysha]

9 hours ago, Oldernowiser said:

 

 

9 minutes ago, poopchute said:

How is this modest? Seriously asking.

What's immodest about it? She's showing off her fully clothed pregnant belly and her neckline is above her breasts. A lot of pregnant women show off their bellies, thanks to Social Media, it's now a "thing". I think it's goofy, but I don't think she's being immodest.

[BitterApple]

The side angle pose shows off the bump while conveniently concealing how wide Jessa has become. Very slick there, Jessa.

[Arwen Evenstar]

7 minutes ago, Nysha said:

 

What's immodest about it? She's showing off her fully clothed pregnant belly and her neckline is above her breasts. A lot of pregnant women show off their bellies, thanks to Social Media, it's now a "thing". I think it's goofy, but I don't think she's being immodest.

In case you are new to the forum, part of our humor is to snark on how modest the girls are being.  For years, they have tried to make already modest clothing "even more modest by putting extra shirts underneath and asking bridal shops to sew "modesty" panels in bridal and bridesmaid dresses to show us just how much more modest they are than anyone else.

Another thing we like to snark on them for is their refusal to buy maternity clothes and stretching their existing clothes so tight they might as well have been wearing a bikini for all we were able to see.

[DangerousMinds]

13 minutes ago, Nysha said:

 

What's immodest about it? She's showing off her fully clothed pregnant belly and her neckline is above her breasts. A lot of pregnant women show off their bellies, thanks to Social Media, it's now a "thing". I think it's goofy, but I don't think she's being immodest.

A really tight shirt isn't particularly modest IMO.

[RazzleberryPie]

Flamboyantly Modest as usual.

Anything that screams LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT MY BODY isn't modest.

[Arwen Evenstar]

1 minute ago, DangerousMinds said:

A really tight shirt isn't particularly modest IMO.

Particularly, a very tight tshirt over a very pregnant belly with ones belly button looking like a pop up turkey timer.

[Absolom]

I agree she had a really impressive back arch going with this one.  It's a little tough to tell, but this time she may be carrying a bit smaller.

[Marigold]

Jessa looks perfectly fine EXCEPT the Duggars are very concerned about modesty standards.  

It's very tight and shows a lot of detail of the female figure. Duggars have repeatedly talked about that very thing being immodest. Attracting attention to the countenance NOT the body has been the general rule.

Jessa is a pretty young woman and looks great. However, we all noticed she is breaking their own modest rules.  

Edited January 9, 2017 by Marigold
wrong wording

[Nysha]

12 minutes ago, Arwen Evenstar said:

In case you are new to the forum, part of our humor is to snark on how modest the girls are being.  For years, they have tried to make already modest clothing "even more modest by putting extra shirts underneath and asking bridal shops to sew "modesty" panels in bridal and bridesmaid dresses to show us just how much more modest they are than anyone else.

I realize that, but the poster did say "seriously" and seriously, I don't think she's being immodest.

[zenme]

Yes. I think it's the comments they've made about not wearing pants and not wanting to show off the body, but those tops sure do cling to their figures. I think it's the hypocrisy that people may see in this.

[poopchute]

1 hour ago, Nysha said:

 

What's immodest about it? She's showing off her fully clothed pregnant belly and her neckline is above her breasts. A lot of pregnant women show off their bellies, thanks to Social Media, it's now a "thing". I think it's goofy, but I don't think she's being immodest.

I think posting a picture where the entire focus is on your body isn't very modest.  It's practically screaming "look at me and comment on my appearance!!" And that seems the opposite of modest to me.

Edited January 9, 2017 by poopchute

[Love2dance]

I think she looks amazing for how far along she is. But modest? Not so much.

[queenanne]

17 minutes ago, poopchute said:

I think posting a picture where the entire focus is on your body isn't very modest.  It's practically screaming "look at me and comment on my appearance!!" And that seems the opposite of modest to me.

Yes, this.  Whether or not any- and every-one does it, I don't think it's modest on the part of any of them.  It seems self-aggrandizing.  I guess this is one of those things about which I'll have to accept I'm just old-fashioned - there's no hiding the fact that a woman is pregnant at this point - let me notice these things gradually, ladies.  You were pregnant yesterday, if I know you at all I probably know you'll still be pregnant tomorrow, I don't care how you're carrying.

[sometimesy]

That angle makes her look slightly smaller than Spurgeon, but I wonder if the baby is laying differently. Does this mean there is a momma's little slave on the way? Awwww.

[Absolom]

Plus if my daughter and her friends are anything to go by not everyone is doing it.  They don't post week by week photos nor do they wear skinny too small clothes that show every line.  Their maternity has some ease in it unlike Jessa's that is stretched tight.  Jessa seems to be showing off which is pretty much the opposite of the modesty that they have made part of their family brand.

[Kirjava]

When I was pregnant last year I did a lot of maternity shopping and form-fitting stretchy shirts were the norm in stores, online, and in thrift shops. I only found a handful of shirts that had flowing waists. And the stretchy form-fitting hirts are the most versatile because I could wear mine from month 5 to birth and it would expand with me, and even post pregnancy without it looking too baggy or too much like I was still wearing maternity clothing  three months post-partum. I can't fault Jessa for wearing what is a very common and versatile maternity style.

Also, I think it's clear that when they say modest they mean "not revealing much skin", which she isn't. And I don't think they ever meant modest to mean "not seeking attention". I mean, they're on TV. So it isn't hypocritical, IMO. 

[Arwen Evenstar]

9 minutes ago, Kirjava said:

Also, I think it's clear that when they say modest they mean "not revealing much skin", which she isn't. And I don't think they ever meant modest to mean "not seeking attention". I mean, they're on TV. So it isn't hypocritical, IMO. 

True, she's not revealing much skin. The religious modesty the Duggettes have touted over the years has not only been covering skin, but also hiding the shape of the female form and curves.  To be able to see the outlines of bras, panties, pubic bones,  belly buttons, nipples...etc...in spite of covering every inch of skin means the outfit is still not modest....it's too tight or poorly fitting or unflattering undergarments are being worn underneath.  They're pretty girls.

Edited January 9, 2017 by Arwen Evenstar

[poopchute]

10 minutes ago, Kirjava said:

Also, I think it's clear that when they say modest they mean "not revealing much skin", which she isn't. And I don't think they ever meant modest to mean "not seeking attention". I mean, they're on TV. So it isn't hypocritical, IMO. 

I thought the whole modesty thing was about hiding your body so you couldn't stir up desires in men.  Can someone correct me if I'm wrong?  So I just think that taking a picture where the whole focus is your body isn't modest. Of course your pregnant body is visible in any photo but there's a difference between posting regular photos of events and posting photos where the focus is your body.  I thought the modesty thing was about taking the focus off their bodies.  So that's where I'm confused.  If they said it was just about bare skin then I must have missed that.

Edited January 9, 2017 by poopchute

[zenme]

For them it's supposedly all about the "countenance" and not the body.

[Absolom]

If you look at maternity clothes and their websites, it's easy to see that Jessica is wearing clothes a size or two too small.  The models and the pregnant women I know aren't having things stretched skin tight.  They are not wearing sloppy sweaters, but that's still a big difference from completely stretched out.  I think Jessica plays a game to see just how tight she can get the clothes to go when she's pregnant.

[DangerousMinds]

25 minutes ago, Kirjava said:

When I was pregnant last year I did a lot of maternity shopping and form-fitting stretchy shirts were the norm in stores, online, and in thrift shops. I only found a handful of shirts that had flowing waists. And the stretchy form-fitting hirts are the most versatile because I could wear mine from month 5 to birth and it would expand with me, and even post pregnancy without it looking too baggy or too much like I was still wearing maternity clothing  three months post-partum. I can't fault Jessa for wearing what is a very common and versatile maternity style.

Also, I think it's clear that when they say modest they mean "not revealing much skin", which she isn't. And I don't think they ever meant modest to mean "not seeking attention". I mean, they're on TV. So it isn't hypocritical, IMO. 

 

25 minutes ago, Kirjava said:

When I was pregnant last year I did a lot of maternity shopping and form-fitting stretchy shirts were the norm in stores, online, and in thrift shops. I only found a handful of shirts that had flowing waists. And the stretchy form-fitting hirts are the most versatile because I could wear mine from month 5 to birth and it would expand with me, and even post pregnancy without it looking too baggy or too much like I was still wearing maternity clothing  three months post-partum. I can't fault Jessa for wearing what is a very common and versatile maternity style.

Also, I think it's clear that when they say modest they mean "not revealing much skin", which she isn't. And I don't think they ever meant modest to mean "not seeking attention". I mean, they're on TV. So it isn't hypocritical, IMO. 

I am very well-endowed, and I am fairly confident that if they saw me wearing a skintight shirt that they would consider me immodest.

[Joe Jitsu913]

I wonder if Jessa Not-so-Blessa would ever be caught dead wearing her mother's maternity wear complete with the clown collars? What if Bin insisted Jessa dress more frumpy with less skin tight shirts?  Jessa would have to submit to Bin's modesty standards. 

[Arwen Evenstar]

12 minutes ago, Joe Jitsu913 said:

I wonder if Jessa Not-so-Blessa would ever be caught dead wearing her mother's maternity wear complete with the clown collars? What if Bin insisted Jessa dress more frumpy with less skin tight shirts?  Jessa would have to submit to Bin's modesty standards. 

Yeah, like Blessa would be caught dead in one of those prairie frumpers ever again.

[Malvina]

5 minutes ago, Arwen Evenstar said:

Yeah, like Blessa would be caught dead in one of those prairie frumpers ever again.

You owe me a strong tranquilizer, otherwise I'm not gonna sleep tonight 

[zoomama]

3 hours ago, Malvina said:

considerably smaller with #2 baby....hope it leads to an uneventful delivery.

[Marigold]

Jessa has figured out how to look modern and sexy while staying covered up. She is a sly one! 

I give her credit for that...Michelle looked like a fool with those collars and frumpers. 

[Lady Edith]

Jessa is not covered up in the manner to which she and her family claim people should.  The shirt she is wearing in the photo on the right is thin and snug.  There is a lace panel running up the side, from armpit to hem.  Not only can you see her black skirt through the material of the shirt,  but you can also see the black bra she is wearing.  It's clear as day.  And through the lace panel you can clearly see the skin on her side as well as her underarm.  

Not what I would call modestwear.  At least not Duggar style modestwear. 

She is carrying high this time around.  That's an old wive's tale to indicate a female baby.  Boys are carried low and girls are carried high. If she is really as far along as she claims, she is definitely smaller and carrying much higher than she did with Spurgeon.  

[Nysha]

2 hours ago, Joe Jitsu913 said:

I wonder if Jessa Not-so-Blessa would ever be caught dead wearing her mother's maternity wear complete with the clown collars?

What young 20-something would ever want to wear her mother's frumpy clothing?

Do the Duggar women have access to new maternity clothes in their little corner of Arkansas? None of the stores in my little corner of Idaho sells maternity wear. Pregnant women have the option of one high-end resale shop, Good Will/Salvation Army, or online shopping. My daughter scored 3 pairs of maternity pants at Good Will & then just wore stretchy tops and t-shirts for her first pregnancy. 

[riverblue22]

10 minutes ago, Nysha said:

What young 20-something would ever want to wear her mother's frumpy clothing?

Do the Duggar women have access to new maternity clothes in their little corner of Arkansas? None of the stores in my little corner of Idaho sells maternity wear. Pregnant women have the option of one high-end resale shop, Good Will/Salvation Army, or online shopping. My daughter scored 3 pairs of maternity pants at Good Will & then just wore stretchy tops and t-shirts for her first pregnancy. 

My daughter got hers online, mostly from Kohls.  And they were not nearly as tight as Jessa's.

[sometimesy]

H&M and Old Navy have cheap maternity clothes available online. They have a lot of the tighter tops, but there are a few of the flowy options. Jessa made a choice to go with the less modest maternity wear and to wear that as tight as possible. Meh, it is probably more comfortable, stylish, versatile and it shows off her bump. As long as Jessa and Ben avoid the modesty rants,  it's a sign that she isn't falling into line.

How long after she has #7 is the camera rolled over to the Dullards? Jessa will have to be pregnant again right at the birth of #8

[Portia]

5 hours ago, Nysha said:

What young 20-something would ever want to wear her mother's frumpy clothing?

Good point...and to be fair, I lived in Arkansas in the '90s, and tent maternity dresses were still very much the norm back then. And the stupid clown collars were everywhere, including on many of my non-maternity church dresses.

Edited January 9, 2017 by Portia

[DangerousMinds]

9 hours ago, Lady Edith said:

Jessa is not covered up in the manner to which she and her family claim people should.  The shirt she is wearing in the photo on the right is thin and snug.  There is a lace panel running up the side, from armpit to hem.  Not only can you see her black skirt through the material of the shirt,  but you can also see the black bra she is wearing.  It's clear as day.  And through the lace panel you can clearly see the skin on her side as well as her underarm.  

Not what I would call modestwear.  At least not Duggar style modestwear. 

She is carrying high this time around.  That's an old wive's tale to indicate a female baby.  Boys are carried low and girls are carried high. If she is really as far along as she claims, she is definitely smaller and carrying much higher than she did with Spurgeon.  

Yes, her top is full of "eye traps," as they say.

This article explains that term:

http://gawker.com/the-duggars-creepy-homeschool-curriculums-guide-to-fash-1707722189

Edited January 9, 2017 by DangerousMinds

[WhineandCheez]

Ok, not to get pervy here, but as Jill found out, there are foot fetish people trolling online, Jessa will also find out that there are pregnancy fetish guys online. Also, everyone is talking about her bump, but her breastseses are really highlighted by her tight sweater and by her backbend-- Anuvittasana--is so arched she could teach it in a yoga class.  Again--no problem for me--but for the Modesty Nazis that they are?????

http://www.yogabasics.com/asana/standing-backbend/

[yogi2014L]

I hate to say it but I really like her shirt in the second photo.

And even if she was covered head to toe in a burka, a selfie at its core isn't a modest thing to do ( And I'm not hating, I take tons of selfies). Its literally a picture of yourself so people will look at you. LOL>

So as long as she isn't being a hypocrite, ( like posting about how ever so modest she is, and how all these street hussys should cover up) no hate from me. 

I don't stalk Jessa much on SM, but does she ever talk about modesty?

[Arwen Evenstar]

5 hours ago, Portia said:

And the stupid clown collars were everywhere, including on many of my non-maternity church dresses.

Were these clown collars actually in fashion at the time, or was this more typical of what was deemed suitable for church in that part of the world at that time? I never really saw anyone in them, other than women who belonged to evangelical churches.

Edited January 9, 2017 by Arwen Evenstar

[BitterApple]

I think Jessa wants to wear tighter, more fitted clothes even when she's not pregnant, but the Duggars have spent so many years doubling down on their ridiculous rules that there's no way she could get away with it without looking like a hypocrite.

[amitville]

13 hours ago, zoomama said:

considerably smaller with #2 baby....hope it leads to an uneventful delivery.

oh my her shirt is so tight that i am yelling nike at the screen

[Sew Sumi]

15 hours ago, Love2dance said:

I think she looks amazing for how far along she is. But modest? Not so much.

You haven't seen the straight-on front shot. She's huge.

[Jynnan tonnix]

43 minutes ago, Arwen Evenstar said:

Were these clown collars actually in fashion at the time, or was this more typical of what was deemed suitable for church in that part of the world at that time? I never really saw anyone in them, other than women who belonged to evangelical churches.

I ran across a photo of myself from the late 80's/early 90's (not sure of the exact year) in which I am wearing a purplish dress with a very busy floral print and white clown collar. It must have seemed like a good idea at the time! LOL

[Almost 3000]

12 hours ago, Nysha said:

What young 20-something would ever want to wear her mother's frumpy clothing?

Do the Duggar women have access to new maternity clothes in their little corner of Arkansas? None of the stores in my little corner of Idaho sells maternity wear. Pregnant women have the option of one high-end resale shop, Good Will/Salvation Army, or online shopping. My daughter scored 3 pairs of maternity pants at Good Will & then just wore stretchy tops and t-shirts for her first pregnancy. 

They have a Walmart close and I'm sure several other places to buy maternity wear. They're not that isolated but by their own choices.

[sometimesy]

2 hours ago, yogi2014L said:

I hate to say it but I really like her shirt in the second photo.

And even if she was covered head to toe in a burka, a selfie at its core isn't a modest thing to do ( And I'm not hating, I take tons of selfies). Its literally a picture of yourself so people will look at you. LOL>

So as long as she isn't being a hypocrite, ( like posting about how ever so modest she is, and how all these street hussys should cover up) no hate from me. 

I don't stalk Jessa much on SM, but does she ever talk about modesty?

Well, she was escorted by Bin to do a talk on dressing modestly some time in the past. They are hypocrites for $$$. I'm just hoping she has relaxed some of the rules as she gets on in life.

I'm dying to know if JB has trapped the sons-in-law with a church to draw them back to the compound. But, most of all, how does Jessa feel, knowing Jilly muffin and her deranged accountant keep getting the better house, and that once #7 is born, no one will care, the focus goes back to Jilly Muffin and her series of dangerous and debilitating events.

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

17 minutes ago, Almost 3000 said:

They have a Walmart close and I'm sure several other places to buy maternity wear. They're not that isolated but by their own choices.

The Wal-Marts in my area don't sell maternity clothes (I had a baby in July).

[Almost 3000]

Just now, MyPeopleAreNordic said:

The Wal-Marts in my area don't sell maternity clothes (I had a baby in July).

Now that surprises me because I thought that they sold just about everything and let's face it the customer that shops there would probably have babies and babies in production somewhere in their family.

[DangerousMinds]

28 minutes ago, sometimesy said:

Well, she was escorted by Bin to do a talk on dressing modestly some time in the past. They are hypocrites for $$$. I'm just hoping she has relaxed some of the rules as she gets on in life.

I'm dying to know if JB has trapped the sons-in-law with a church to draw them back to the compound. But, most of all, how does Jessa feel, knowing Jilly muffin and her deranged accountant keep getting the better house, and that once #7 is born, no one will care, the focus goes back to Jilly Muffin and her series of dangerous and debilitating events.

She may not care that much about the house right now; bigger is not necessarily better IMHO.

8 minutes ago, Almost 3000 said:

Now that surprises me because I thought that they sold just about everything and let's face it the customer that shops there would probably have babies and babies in production somewhere in their family.

So true! I'm sure they have a plus-size section though.:) That could work.

[ariel]

47 minutes ago, Almost 3000 said:

Now that surprises me because I thought that they sold just about everything and let's face it the customer that shops there would probably have babies and babies in production somewhere in their family.

That is strange for a store that proudly sells guns & ammo, but no maternity wear.