The Duggalos: Jinger and the Holy Goalie

[JoanArc]

"We just happen to be taking a road trip, wanna come?" translates from Duggar to English as "You've been alone too long, we have to see you, NOW."

 

It could also just be filming for the show, or a pregnancy announcement to the family. That was a short 'six months'.

[GeeGolly]

3 hours ago, Mollie said:

So, Jeremy took off at least two weeks for the wedding and Australian honeymoon in November, a week off in December to visit his family in New Jersey and now a week off in March to vacation with the Duggars in Ohio.  I guess Paster Jeremy thinks God only called him to be a part-time minister and a full-time reality TV star.  And to think how many people actually thought he was a dedicated paster.

I think those numbers are few and far between.

[SMama]

Looks like Jeremy and Jinger visited the Duggars, thus avoiding the locust swarming their home. Pickles reported Ken Ham said their visit was not filmed. FWIW and that may not be much.

[lascuba]

Damn, Jeremy has one of those faces that needs facial hair.

[queenanne]

4 hours ago, JoanArc said:

"We just happen to be taking a road trip, wanna come?" translates from Duggar to English as "You've been alone too long, we have to see you, NOW."

 

It could also just be filming for the show, or a pregnancy announcement to the family. That was a short 'six months'.

Yeah, not to conspiracy theory or anything, but Jinger does look mighty excited to get her mitts on Henry... 

[Marshmallow Mollie]

Looks like a belted jacket with the belt across waist - not maternity wear. 

[awaken]

 Are Ben and Jessa on a road trip with a newborn baby?

And so much for J and J's six-month rule – I guess if the family isn't supposed to come visit them, they have to go visit the family! Can't stay out of the duggar orbit for too long.  I guess Jeremy's church will pastor itself then.  

I detest Jeremy's hat in that picture. Trying way too hard. 

[Annb67]

Jingle has a fake smile plastered on her face

Just now, Annb67 said:

Jingle has a fake smile plastered on her face

Damn auto correct??Jinger NOT Jingle

[Marigold]

There is no way that entire trip to the Noah's ark thing was not filmed.  With the entire family??? And an infant? 

Maybe not filmed in the ark but there has to have been footage shot of the vacation.  Why else would Jeremy and Jinger go along?  They need a pay check.

I imagine Jeremy's church has no problem with him leaving because it gives him some money and aren't there other pastors to happily fill in for him? Plus this gives the church some free (indirect) advertising. 

[Churchhoney]

18 hours ago, BitterApple said:

Family road trip? Doesn't Jeremy have a job? I get that pastoring to ten people isn't really all that demanding, but you'd think there'd be some level of expectation and accountability.

Give that that's a church plant with expectations by the home church for expansion, no doubt, I'd think he's expected to be involving himself in the Laredo community to build awareness of the church and of its intention to understand the community, help out where it can, etc. .... You're not gonna grow a church without some serious work, especially today as even the appeal of evangelical churches is gradually waning. 

Seems Jer thinks it's his and his wife's TeeVee Fame that'll be the draw for a growing congregation. I'm sure curiosity will help a bit, but I don't see that bringing people in Sunday after Sunday -- especially if people go and they find out that Jer and Jinge are on the road again. 

15 hours ago, SMama said:

I remember when there was a lot of speculation about Derick leaving his job to literally join the circus. Sad to say Mr. I'm nowhere near qualified to be a pastor, but play one to get on TV is going in that direction. How sad to choose to grift when they are so fortunate to have decent post secondary educations.  

I swear the Duggars must have some highly communicable stealth virus that causes this. 

10 hours ago, awaken said:

 

I detest Jeremy's hat in that picture. Trying way too hard. 

Soon he'll start wearing it backwards. 

Edited March 30, 2017 by Churchhoney

[Churchhoney]

10 hours ago, Annb67 said:

Jingle has a fake smile plastered on her face

Damn auto correct??Jinger NOT Jingle

I love "Jingle." I think it should be her new name. 

[riverblue22]

9 hours ago, Marigold said:

There is no way that entire trip to the Noah's ark thing was not filmed.  With the entire family??? And an infant? 

Maybe not filmed in the ark but there has to have been footage shot of the vacation.  Why else would Jeremy and Jinger go along?  They need a pay check.

I imagine Jeremy's church has no problem with him leaving because it gives him some money and aren't there other pastors to happily fill in for him? Plus this gives the church some free (indirect) advertising. 

When the Bates family went to the ark, there was plenty of filming inside.  I'm sure "the ark" likes the advertising.  They even filmed a dinosaur! I imagine filming was going on with the Duggars but that will be a very boring episode.

[Ripley68]

Jeremy really needs facial hair.  Henry looks better in that picture with Jinger than I've seen in any of the pics that Jessa has posted. Jingle still looks pretty to have a skinny face and neck in that pic - meaning not gaining pregnancy weight.

[flyingdi]

12 hours ago, Annb67 said:

Jingle has a fake smile plastered on her face

Damn auto correct??Jinger NOT Jingle

My autocorrect keeps changing Jessa and Jinger's names to Head and Hunger.  Make of that what you will.

[Marigold]

i think TLC is trying to make the Duggars not so extreme in their religious beliefs and more mainstream.  The TLC network and the Duggars are saddled with a 300 pound problem named Josh.  The Bates are on the UP channel and don't have so many perverts in their closet. Yet. 

I'm thinking they will downplay the Ark Museum and play up the "happy, smiling family on vacation"

[DoctorWhovian]

If she's not pregnant now, she will be soon, unless she has fertility issues (or they aren't... spending enough time together). At least Jeremy is actually at an age where it's normal to be having kids, and has at least some amount of life experience under his belt. Just unfortunate that they will likely not have much time together as a couple.

[Portia]

20 hours ago, SMama said:

It looks like he must also zip his jacket as high as he buttons his shirts.

Is there a chance Jeremy has a tattoo he regrets that compels him to keep tightly buttoned up? Does anyone have any immodest shirtless pics from his sinful past?

[Guest]

Quote

"aidanlunsford I was there with my school and she told our group she is pregnant”

Yeah, sure. I'm positive Jinger told you personally that she's expecting. 

[Mollie]

22 minutes ago, Portia said:

Is there a chance Jeremy has a tattoo he regrets that compels him to keep tightly buttoned up? Does anyone have any immodest shirtless pics from his sinful past?

Here's a pic from his sinful past.

 

[SMama]

There was a pic of him shirtless with what looked like beads on his head, no tat visible. I read either here or on FJ that he has a tat on his arm. @Sew Sumi is better at recalling those facts.

[Sew Sumi]

Yes, he has a tat on his inner, upper right arm. Don't know what it says. 

 

[Churchhoney]

12 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Yes, he has a tat on his inner, upper right arm. Don't know what it says. 

 

I'd like to tattoo this on the inside of Jizm Bob's eyelids.

Edited March 30, 2017 by Churchhoney

[Sew Sumi]

FTA: The tat can be seen in more recent pictures when he's wearing a short sleeved shirt. I don't know if he had it when this pic was taken since his right arm is hidden (looks like a rookie prank on one of his soccer teams). 

Edited March 31, 2017 by Sew Sumi

[GeeGolly]

7 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

I love "Jingle." I think it should be her new name. 

Only if it's pronounced Jingle like dingle and not like Jinjill.

[Churchhoney]

32 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Only if it's pronounced Jingle like dingle and not like Jinjill.

Absolutely. The "Jinjill" pronunciation would be spelled "Jingel." And it'd be too much like her old name, which always sounds to me like gum disease.

"I really feel crappy. And I woke up this morning full of spurge and jinger."

"Jingle," on the other hand, is elves and Christmas. Much better.

Edited March 30, 2017 by Churchhoney

[SMama]

@Churchhoney "full of spurge and Jinger" sounds like something in fan fic. I mean no disrespect, it was just the image I got. Hella funny!

[toodles]

4 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

 

Well I feel totally defrauded.

 

4 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

Yes, he has a tat on his inner, upper right arm. Don't know what it says. 

 

[Guest]

NIKE

[Marigold]

Let's not forget.   Jeremy has to tithe his own salary.

A check from TLC helps the church. 

If it's a lower income church, which it appears to be, that might not be a bad financial decision by Jeremy.  He "works" for TLC doing a scenes on a family vacation and he can give his church a gift from his work.  If this is the case, it's win-win for everyone involved (Duggars, TLC and Laredo Church)

I think i just said something nice about Jeremy. Yikes.  Send help. 

[leighdear]

On 3/30/2017 at 8:56 AM, Churchhoney said:

I love "Jingle." I think it should be her new name. 

I'm totally on board with Jingle and Baaaaaaabe.   But I think he needs to ramp up the sexy a bit more to get those church ladies REALLY donating to his "cause".  

I just like the fact that photo exists.  I imagine Ben & Derp have no such photographic skeletons in their closets.  And praise be for that!  *LOL*

Edited April 1, 2017 by leighdear

[Churchhoney]

23 hours ago, Marigold said:

Let's not forget.   Jeremy has to tithe his own salary.

A check from TLC helps the church. 

If it's a lower income church, which it appears to be, that might not be a bad financial decision by Jeremy.  He "works" for TLC doing a scenes on a family vacation and he can give his church a gift from his work.  If this is the case, it's win-win for everyone involved (Duggars, TLC and Laredo Church)

I think i just said something nice about Jeremy. Yikes.  Send help. 

Okay, I'll help you get off this hook. Are we sure he'll do this?

Because I happen to be looking into patterns of charitable giving, and I just read this yesterday (in a scholarly journal, with footnotes and everything): 

 

"Most evangelicals actually give very little of their money away. For example,

a 2011 study found that conservative Protestants only donate, on average,

2.4 percent of their annual incomes to their churches or other charities.3

And as income goes up, this percentage goes down. Moreover, contributions

to “domestic missions”—gifts most likely to fınd their way to America’s

poor—are not among the top fıve types of charities favored by

evangelicals.4"

[Absolom]

I kind of always laugh at people thinking all church people tithe.  I've known very, very few people who tithe to their church.  I doubt Jim Bob does and in many churches no one expects the pastor to donate.  If everyone tithed, there would a LOT fewer sermons about giving to the church or upping everyone's pledge. 

[MunichNark]

We pay Church tax, that is, if you are either Catholic or Lutheran.

It does not surprise me that fundies don't pay up - they are far too up their own holes and wanting to feel smug and superior to truly care about others.

[doodlebug]

6 hours ago, MunichNark said:

We pay Church tax, that is, if you are either Catholic or Lutheran.

It does not surprise me that fundies don't pay up - they are far too up their own holes and wanting to feel smug and superior to truly care about others.

Roman Catholics do not pay 'church tax', I've never heard of it.  As a lifelong Catholic, I can tell you the church gives us envelopes for weekly donations and certainly is happy to provide us with guidelines as to how much is expected; but nobody is singled out for not doing it or not meeting some standard.  I had a sister who wasn't even a member of a parish, hadn't gone to church in years.  When she died, her husband wanted a Catholic funeral.  He paid the same fees as anyone else does for a funeral (mainly for the facility and the organ and soloist; around $300).  Nobody said a word to him about whether they'd ever dropped a dime in the collection.

I have a colleague, Presbyterian, who tells me she does tithe to her church.  However, her father was a Presbyterian minister and she grew up a 'PK'(Preacher's Kid) as she calls it, so I have a feeling she is more devoted than most.

From what I hear, many evangelical, fundie churches do spend a lot of time railing about the importance of tithing 10% of the family income, but many of them don't actually do it themselves  Sort of like that stuff about adultery, child porn, premarital sex,,etc; rules are for other people.

The only mainstream faith that I've heard of where people are pretty consistent about tithing is LDS (Mormons).

Edited April 2, 2017 by doodlebug

[Gemma Violet]

17 hours ago, leighdear said:

I'm totally on board with Jingle and Baaaaaaabe.   But I think he needs to ramp up the sexy a bit more to get those church ladies REALLY donating to his "cause".  

I just like the fact that photo exists.  I imagine Ben & Derp have no such photographic skeletons in their closets.  And praise be for that!  *LOL*

I might be alone here, but I dislike nicknames here, only because it sometimes takes me a couple of seconds to realize who it is we're talking about.  Jingle & Babe are pretty straight-forward, but there are others in other threads that I have to stop and think, "Wait, now who are they talking about?"

[MunichNark]

19 minutes ago, doodlebug said:

Roman Catholics do not pay 'church tax', I've never heard of it.  As a lifelong Catholic, I can tell you the church gives us envelopes for weekly donations and certainly is happy to provide us with guidelines as to how much is expected; but nobody is singled out for not doing it or not meeting some standard.  I had a sister who wasn't even a member of a parish, hadn't gone to church in years.  When she died, her husband wanted a Catholic funeral.  He paid the same fees as anyone else does for a funeral (mainly for the facility and the organ and soloist; around $300).  Nobody said a word to him about whether they'd ever dropped a dime in the collection.

 

Ehm, yes we most certainly do. Might I remind you that I don't live in the US? If you opt out of paying such tax, you are actually required to formally resign from the Church (same goes for the Prods) and may not partake of any of their usual services like weddings, funerals, etc.

[Albanyguy]

14 hours ago, Absolom said:

I kind of always laugh at people thinking all church people tithe.  I've known very, very few people who tithe to their church.  I doubt Jim Bob does

I've always assumed that one reason the Duggars began their "home" church was to avoid having to share their wealth through tithing. Unless my grasp of the timeline is off, I think the "home" churching began right around the time they climbed on board the TLC gravy train (or at least shortly before). It was one thing to belong to an actual church when they were living in poverty*. They welcomed "love offerings" of free clothes and groceries from their church. But once they became TV stars, then their church would expect them to start "paying it forward" by helping their fellow church members. And Jim Bob was not about to share any of his newfound wealth.

* And by "poverty, of course, I mean "letting your children go to bed hungry while you waste $250,000 on a vanity political campaign".

[EAG46]

Don't churches have membership fees?  That's how my family's synagogue [as in the one we've belonged to for years] stays in business.  Every year my parents get a bill and they pay it.   During High Holy Days services there can be pledge drives for Israel or other projects but there's no actual money exchanged then.     Tithing must be a Gentile thing.    Back to the topic:   Jeremy's church must not be big enough to provide adequate income for him and Jinger, so whatever TLC income they can get must help.   And as for that Ark thing:  The entrance fee is probably intentionally high to keep skeptics out.  James Randi and Neil DeGrasse Tyson would have a FIELD DAY in that place.

[luvmylabs]

8 hours ago, MunichNark said:

We pay Church tax, that is, if you are either Catholic or Lutheran.

It does not surprise me that fundies don't pay up - they are far too up their own holes and wanting to feel smug and superior to truly care about others.

I can't speak for all American Lutherans, and certainly not for Lutherans in other countries, but we've never paid any kind of church tax in any of the congregations we have belonged to.  Our pastors have been expected to contribute.  As for Jeremy, not sure what his little congregation expects of him.  I doubt there are many Christians (fundie or not) who actually tithe, although that is the gold standard.  We are encouraged to give a set portion of our income and to increase it annually if we can.  I actually like the Jewish system of paying synagogue dues.  Makes life easier all around!

[MunichNark]

I believe this is unique to Germany. It wasn't the case in either UK or Ireland. It only applies to the two denominations I mentioned (Lutheran being the main proddie denomination here). You actually have to tick a box when applying for your tax number to indicate if you belong to either or any other - the any other just do as they see fit and probably survive off donations.

The tax is in addition to collects and stuff, of course........

[RazzleberryPie]

31 minutes ago, EAG46 said:

Don't churches have membership fees?  That's how my family's synagogue [as in the one we've belonged to for years] stays in business.  Every year my parents get a bill and they pay it.   During High Holy Days services there can be pledge drives for Israel or other projects but there's no actual money exchanged then.     Tithing must be a Gentile thing.    Back to the topic:   Jeremy's church must not be big enough to provide adequate income for him and Jinger, so whatever TLC income they can get must help.   And as for that Ark thing:  The entrance fee is probably intentionally high to keep skeptics out.  James Randi and Neil DeGrasse Tyson would have a FIELD DAY in that place.

No. No membership fees.

Most protest and churches suggest 10% monthly income, as mentioned in the OT. Varies from church to church, but it's rare for it to be a requirement for membership and not suggested. Requirement screams greedy cult to me.

I did not know that in some countries where there is a state church, there is also a church tax. Very interesting. 

[MunichNark]

2 minutes ago, RazzleberryPie said:

I did not know that in some countries where there is a state church, there is also a church tax. Very interesting. 

This is somewhat off topic but we still pay solidarity tax for Eastern Germany, nearly 30 years after the bloody wall came down:-) We do have very high taxes here altogether

Edited April 2, 2017 by MunichNark

[Nysha]

1 hour ago, EAG46 said:

Tithing must be a Gentile thing.

This is funny because most of the Bible verses quoted in Fundamental churches about tithing come from Leviticus and Malachi.

[GeeGolly]

If nobody tithes then how do the churches support themselves?

[Absolom]

People still pledge and give offerings.  It may not be a literal tenth of their income.  They also do fund raisers.  I'm sure the Duggars support the actual churches that they attend in some way.  They may give of the time, talent, and treasure as it's frequently expressed.  Jim Bob may think it's fine to send a car load of boys over to tend the grounds of the church and Jana to clean.  They probably do put something in the offering when it's passed.

I was taught growing up that tithing was Old Testament and was literally agricultural products.  A friend of mine who attended seminary told me once that if the pastor kept nattering on about tithing that I should take 1/10 of my first crop of chiles and a tenth of my first flowers and give them to the church.  :)  He said that would be true OT. :) 

[leighdear]

23 minutes ago, Absolom said:

I was taught growing up that tithing was Old Testament and was literally agricultural products.  A friend of mine who attended seminary told me once that if the pastor kept nattering on about tithing that I should take 1/10 of my first crop of chiles and a tenth of my first flowers and give them to the church.  :)  He said that would be true OT. :) 

I would PAY to watch somebody drop a bag of peppers and a dozen lilies in an offertory plate!  *ROFL* 

I'm a heathen, but my mom is a Methodist and writes her church a check quarterly.  She's a widow on a fixed income, but it's an appropriate amount, though not 10% of her income.  Probably closer to 5 or 6.  (I do her taxes, so I know her expenses).  But she also donates a lot of time working in their office, and has run their Prayer Shawl Ministry for 8 years.  It's a beach community with decent incomes and a lot of retirees, so most give pretty generously and do a LOT of social things, in addition to community stuff.  But Methodists don't have a rule book that says "thou must giveth" any specific amount. 

I don't think Jeremy's area has a lot of money to just hand over, so I'm betting they do a lot of car washes & bake sales.  But no bikini tops at those car washes!   

[Temperance]

in some Catholic churches people just give loose cash.  Some catholics tithe, but that is voluntary. 

Edited April 2, 2017 by Temperance

[Absolom]

So funding "Jeremy's" church made me think who owns the building?  I wondered if the San Antonio church bought it or if it was leased.  It's a single person's name so I'm presuming it's leased or a member of the congregation perhaps had an empty house available for use? 

[saylubee]

21 minutes ago, Absolom said:

So funding "Jeremy's" church made me think who owns the building?  I wondered if the San Antonio church bought it or if it was leased.  It's a single person's name so I'm presuming it's leased or a member of the congregation perhaps had an empty house available for use? 

It's owned by the man who is the deacon at the church.  From what I can gather, he originally founded the church around 2011.  Then he combined with the San Antonio church and took the Grace Community Church name in the last few years for whatever reasons.  He used to be the pastor until Jeremy took over.  He does the sermons when Jeremy is out of town.

The Grace Community Church name is pretty well known nationally.  What I can't discern is if the San Antonio & Laredo churches are like franchises of the national brand.  If that's the case and they are owned/funded solely by Tim Conway, then Jeremy may have to pony up his own money to keep the church running.  It also appears that there are two more churches in Conway's clutches, one in New Mexico and one in Austin.  

If it's actually part of the national brand of churches, Jeremy may get his check signed by someone in a corporate office and only needs to provide money if fundraising falls short.  Jeremy would also get health insurance if this is the case.

Edited April 2, 2017 by saylubee

[Absolom]

Ah, that's why his name is familiar.  It seems they may be part of the national group or at least related as Jeremy went to the overall Grace Community pastors' gathering near LA not long ago.  I don't know if they do the pastor thing nationally or church by church.