S07.E12: Gone Fishing

[AhFillAck]

While my personal preference is that Kail's décor stinks, I did love her purple walls.

[StatisticalOutlier]

39 minutes ago, anarchyangel84 said:

Teen pregnancy is down because of this show

Just because Dr. Drew says it doesn't make it true.  I'd like to see some proof of causation.  In the meantime, I'll believe what I see--that this show illustrates that being a teen mom can make you a celebrity.

 

39 minutes ago, anarchyangel84 said:

 I don't believe that Leah's a drug addict. I believe that her doctor perscribed her meds & either they were too strong- or she was taking too many.

Then I have to wonder why she went to therapy (or rehab, as I believe Corey termed it).  Seems like if it was just a matter of the meds being too strong, she'd have the dosage adjusted, and if it was a matter of taking too many, she's stop taking too many.  Unless she couldn't.

 

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[Chelsea] probably could've started dating some time ago- but she was picky & she shoulda been because of Aubree. Leah, Jenelle, Amber, & Farrah should watch Chelsea & take notes. 

She did date, but didn't have them on the show (and maybe even hid it from the show?).  Since we didn't see it, we don't know if she was positioning people she was dating as new daddies; I hope not.  But if she didn't, she certainly seems to be making up for lost time now.

I had to laugh when a few episodes ago, she was saying something about what are the odds that you will find your perfect partner (or maybe she even said soul mate--I have trouble listening to her baby voice) in your own town; it reminded me how young these people are even though they've been on my TV forever.  Because yeah, there's nobody on the whole planet for her except this one guy in Sioux Falls. 

[ava111]

22 hours ago, DNR said:

Wow. Just wow. 

Jenelles convo with 6 year old Jace about how she didn't have a house when he was a baby and now Meme(Babs) won't give him back. Way to  emotionally traumatize and manipulate your young son you evil c^nt.

And to me the look in her eyes when she turned back  and finished the explanation said "Hope he bought it"

So sad :(:(:(

[DangerousMinds]

I wish these girls would realize that a "family" does not have to include a man. Sometimes it does, sometimes not. But either way you and your children are a family.

[Phoebe70]

So how many months' pregnant is Jo?  Judging from his gut in the pizza scene I'm guessing 6-7 months.  

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

20 hours ago, PenelopePendleton said:

As a single Mom myself.. This episode is why I WILL NOT DATE until my kids are 18.  If any man spoke to my child like that I would kill him while he was sleeping. I don't talk to my children like that, and neither can you.  So, I am single.  

 

All the men on here are douche bags.  Cole gets a pass. He is cool.

I wish Barbara would have called the police for kidnapping.

I'm not a single mom, but I can imagine that would likely terrify me out of dating if I was.

If ANYONE called my son (who is about 5 months younger than Kaiser) "a whiny little bitch," it would take everything for me not to beat that person's ass. I want to kick David's ass for saying it and it wasn't even my one year old he was talking about.

I'm really worried for Jace and Kaiser. And poor Marissa. I bet that child has seen some shit. 

[spidermiss2426]

I may have to retire witch Leah for a meme with her at the barbecue, mentioning "barbecue boobs"

And those smores were a crime.  Even smores made with peeps instead of regular marshmallows had to have tasted better than that.

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

I recall a scene not long after Lincoln was born (like maybe one of the first scenes when they were home with baby Lincoln) where Javi said something about having more kids and Kail immediately shut that down and said they weren't having anymore, but Javi said they were. It stood out to me right then that 1) it was douchey to put pressure on a woman who had just given birth for more babies and 2) that they weren't on the same page about babies (and also that IMO, Kail was smart not to want three plus kids for when the MTV $ dried up). Does anyone else remember this scene? I remember thinking at the time "this ought to work out well."

Edited June 8, 2016 by MyPeopleAreNordic

[CofCinci]

1 hour ago, AhFillAck said:

While my personal preference is that Kail's décor stinks, I did love her purple walls.

I figured the decorating was all Javi's mother. 

[BitterApple]

7 minutes ago, MyPeopleAreNordic said:

 

I'm really worried for Jace and Kaiser. And poor Marissa. I bet that child has seen some shit. 

That's probably a safe bet. Imagine what a doozy Marissa's mother must be if she a) procreated with a psycho like Dave and b) allows her child to be in his presence despite him beating the shit out of a pregnant woman and having a no-contact order with his second child. It's no wonder these kids look like walking hostages.

[lidarose9]

Re: David vs. Nathan. Nathan has this sunny warm personality that can quickly escalate into full-on rage. He has ups and downs, mood-wise. David is like a serial killer. No warmth, emotionless, dead eyes (like Jenelle), who doesn't need a reason to lash out, verbally or physically. The ice-cold rage is always there simmering under the surface. I remember very well the day Jenelle was going to meet Nathan to talk about custody/court case and David became extremely controlling and angry and downright scary. I saw fear in Jenelle's face that day.

[Blissfool]

Re: david vs nathan. I think nathan was the scariest last season when he had supposedly left out of town and unexpectedly  walked into the house when jenelle was laying on the couch talking to her friend. He had such anger within him during that time. He was lashing out at her with such hatred that i actually felt sorry for her. I remember thinking "this guy is gonna kill her. "

So far, david hasn't made me feel that scared. He's been pretty chill with her. 

[SPLAIN]

1 hour ago, DangerousMinds said:

I wish these girls would realize that a "family" does not have to include a man. Sometimes it does, sometimes not. But either way you and your children are a family.

That's right. Let me go down the list:

Kail: She didn't need a man for jack shit. Seriously? Did I read some comments that mentioned because she wasn't sure Teen Mom 2 was going to continue, she needed the stability of being married? Tell me I read that wrong. What has happened to our young girls that in order for them to need stability it must come with having a guy between their legs? Kail already had at least two seasons of TM money under her belt and !6 & Pregnant money. Remember, TM2 went into production two months after 16 & Pregnant ended.  She was working part-time, if I am remembering correctly. She had Jo who is in her child's life and she had Jo's family to help her with Isaac and possibly other needs if only she wasn't so vindictive. Instead, she spat on them and later, hooked up with the guy who walked into her job and decided it was time to get "benefits". Plenty of single parents (men and women) do it on their own everyday of the fucking week without TM money and without having to marry someone for benefits. Kail was able to provide for herself a nice, little apartment. Millions of single parents have succeeded with a lot less. 

Chelsea: I don't see her marrying Cole for stability. I do see her wanting that family that so many young girls have said over and over on this show and the original TM show. I do believe she loves Cole and he loves her. IMO it is important to ensure that the person you are bringing into your child's life, is going to have a healthy relationship with your child. I think Cole has a certain amount of respect for Adam in that he doesn't bad-mouth him like some of the other dicks on this show. In the end, I do believe Chelsea wants the close-knit family that she lost when her parents divorced. I see many young girls who are trying to give themselves that family that they were denied growing up for one reason or another. Chelsea is trying to fill a void.

 

Leah: Lost her father at a young age. Mama Dawn and company filled her head with bullshit about being a mother at a young age in spite what Mama Dawn said on camera. Leah has sexual urges and needs and seems to have had them since she was very young. She was with Robbie for three years. That relationship began when she was 13 years old. Leah cannot be without a guy and when she has one, they must live together. She doesn't work. She depends on the guy to bring home the money. I guess her job is to satisfy them sexually. Leah needs intense therapy. 

Jenelle: Oh God. I don't have time for her bullshit. She has two beautiful little boys but all her attention goes to bastards. She cries when these jerks treat her bad, but ignores the two little men she brought into this world. Jenelle is not complete or whole without a guy buy her side and in her bed. 

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

Jenelle doesn't deserve to be abused.

She deserves to finally go to prison at some point but she has a lucky court star.

She deserves for Jace and Kaiser to want nothing to do with her when they're grown.

She deserves for Barb to cut her off, never let her see Jace, and let her fall on her face when she has nowhere to go and no money after TM2 finally ends. 

But even Jenelle doesn't deserve abuse.  

[ChocolateAddict]

I haven't seen this episode but to me the scariest thing about Uncle BadTouch is that he is making out that his manipulation is "love".  He is dealing with Nathan so that Jenelle doesn't have to "stress".  He called the cops on Babs because she was disturbing "his" kids in "his" house.  He likes to dictate what happens and when.  This isn't love, it is control. He acts like he is doing all of this because he is looking out for Jenelle but in reality she is on her way to being a victim of domestic violence. Domestic violence doesn't have to involve slapping (although Dave's history suggests that), it can be isolation and dependency, making the victim feel like she can't leave.  Dave has claimed Jenelle's house and kids as his own and makes it seem like he cares when in actual fact he has shown himself to be cruel, vindictive and in the past, violent.

I don't like Jenelle, I think she is a terrible person and an even worse mother but no one deserves to feel unsafe in their own home or controlled or isolated or assaulted.  That's not a feminist position, it's a basic human right not to be abused. 

[shelley1234]

1 minute ago, MyPeopleAreNordic said:

Jenelle doesn't deserve to be abused.

She deserves to finally go to prison at some point but she has a lucky court star.

She deserves for Jace and Kaiser to want nothing to do with her when they're grown.

She deserves for Barb to cut her off, never let her see Jace, and let her fall on her face when she has nowhere to go and no money after TM2 finally ends. 

But even Jenelle doesn't deserve abuse.  

Yep.  Wanting someone to get consequences for their actions is a far cry IMO from saying they deserve to be abused...to be bruised and bloody because they deserve it for what a shitty person they are.  

Jenelle is a shitty person.  She's a shitty mom.  She's a shitty daughter.  She's a shitty friend.  She's a shitty partner.  She's a shitty member of society.  She picks shitty partners.  Doesn't give someone cause or the right to abuse someone....even shitty, horrible people.  

I do think Jenelle should be in jail and if it wasn't for Teen Mom, I think she would be.  Someday if she doesn't change her ways and doesn't look to better her life and situation, her luck will run out.  I also think David should be in jail for what he did to the mother of his last child.  No question about it, but unfortunately it looks like nothing much came of it.  

[lidarose9]

Haha, Blissfool, we just said the exact opposite thing at the same time! Well, I guess we all see things our own way. Speaking of which, I want to (again) speak up for Barb. I wouldn't assume Jenelle's "problems" are a result of a bad upbringing. I have seen too many complicated family relationships to believe that it's a one-to-one thing. I've seen really shitty parents luck out with some pretty resilient awesome kids. I have a good friend whose son is a homeless heroin addict and he had a perfectly normal upbringing. I've seen siblings of the same two parents where one is a complete loser while the other three are normal people. It's not always the parents' fault.

Legally a girl of 16 is still a child, also emotionally and mentally. When Jenelle was a child, something really unusual and really catastrophic happened to her: no, not an unplanned pregnancy. It was MTV: a giant corporation started filming her life and throwing money at her. There is no way of knowing how much Jenelle's problems were actually caused or exacerbated by MTV, or Barb, or her own genes. It's possible Jenelle could have turned her life around if she'd had a really good influence during her teenage years like a positive teacher or coach, instead of the parade of losers attracted by her "fame" and MTV money.

[Darknight]

13 hours ago, kdl88 said:

Jenelle keeps using that word "stable." I do not think it means what she thinks it means.  For example, it does not mean allowing your meat head boyfriend to call your baby a "whiny little bitch."  I can't believe she didn't say anything.

When Kail was saying that she didn't want to be a single mom to 3 kids every time Javi deployed, I got the feeling that she was really thinking, "I don't want to be a single mom when this new baby inevitably fails to fix our marriage and we split up anyway." 

Does Javi family take care of the kids anyway? 

[PenelopePendleton]

I have said it before, I will say it again.. Dave or is it David? Anyway, he is as smart as dirt.  

I hope Janelle gets her ass served to her in court with the case pending with Nathan. She totally has anger issues. I wouldn't let he watch my bike, let alone my child.

[BitterApple]

35 minutes ago, PenelopePendleton said:

I have said it before, I will say it again.. Dave or is it David? Anyway, he is as smart as dirt.  

I hope Janelle gets her ass served to her in court with the case pending with Nathan. She totally has anger issues. I wouldn't let he watch my bike, let alone my child.

They already resolved the custody dispute. Nathan has Kaiser two weekends a month.  I guess 50/50 would've interfered with gym time.

[SheTalksShit]

5 hours ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

Just because Dr. Drew says it doesn't make it true.  I'd like to see some proof of causation.  In the meantime, I'll believe what I see--that this show illustrates that being a teen mom can make you a celebrity.

 

Then I have to wonder why she went to therapy (or rehab, as I believe Corey termed it).  Seems like if it was just a matter of the meds being too strong, she'd have the dosage adjusted, and if it was a matter of taking too many, she's stop taking too many.  Unless she couldn't.

 

She did date, but didn't have them on the show (and maybe even hid it from the show?).  Since we didn't see it, we don't know if she was positioning people she was dating as new daddies; I hope not.  But if she didn't, she certainly seems to be making up for lost time now.

I had to laugh when a few episodes ago, she was saying something about what are the odds that you will find your perfect partner (or maybe she even said soul mate--I have trouble listening to her baby voice) in your own town; it reminded me how young these people are even though they've been on my TV forever.  Because yeah, there's nobody on the whole planet for her except this one guy in Sioux Falls. 

no, she really didn't date. she and adam were on-off for like 4-5 years before she met cole. she DID start hiding her hookups with Adam from the show, though, which is why we didn't see them hookup for a while, but every time they appeared at the reunion and dr. drew asked when the last time was that they hooked up, they'd always answer "like a month ago," or some other time recently. it wasn't until she started seeing Cole that that stopped. actually, it really wasn't until Adam refused to give her his phone # because of Taylor (they were hooking up while Taylor was pregnant w/Adams second baby, remember?) 

[missy jo]

Cosign to Chelsea admitting at each reunion that she still hooked up with Adam. I don't have any reason to believe she still wouldn't be, if she hadn't found that doofus replacement. Cole is actually hot, but his baby talk ruins it. 

I don't believe the stats about Teen Mom lowering pregnancy either. I'd have to see causation. 

However, I notice Dr Drew has stopped talking to the girls using about birth control, lest they join the sad statistic of teen mom's having second kids soon after. Fail! 

[WhosThatGirl]

While I do give Chelsea side eye for still hooking up with Adam, I think she kept the cycle of hooking up with him a lot because she didn't know anything different and she probably did think, one day he will change and want to be a family with her and Aubree. I don't think she knew what a healthy relationship was until she started to date Cole. Also, personally, I hated Panda when he would ask her about hooking up with Adam, he made it like she was a bad person for doing so but had nothing negative to say to Adam about it. I kind of hate how much of a hard pass he has given Adam on these reunions when he gives actual decent fathers like Corey such grief. (I still remember MONKEY, you guys..never forget and yes I knew Drew had nothing really do do with that, he still let that nonsense happen so that Leah could excuse herself from talking about anything but yet Corey and Miranda had to deal with actual things). So, in a way, I sort of understand it. She really didn't know anything different and she'd been in this cycle for years. 

Edited June 8, 2016 by WhosThatGirl

[Mkay]

1 hour ago, SheTalksShit said:

no, she really didn't date. she and adam were on-off for like 4-5 years before she met cole. she DID start hiding her hookups with Adam from the show, though, which is why we didn't see them hookup for a while, but every time they appeared at the reunion and dr. drew asked when the last time was that they hooked up, they'd always answer "like a month ago," or some other time recently. it wasn't until she started seeing Cole that that stopped. actually, it really wasn't until Adam refused to give her his phone # because of Taylor (they were hooking up while Taylor was pregnant w/Adams second baby, remember?) 

She admitted that she had. A few times. She said something about not wanting to share everything.  One of them was a semi famous. It was mentioned he was in the public eye.  

 

http://www.wetpaint.com/chelsea-houska-new-famous-boyfriend-826493/

Edited June 8, 2016 by Mkay

[TaxNerd]

17 hours ago, MrsPatrickBateman said:

I love the irony of Leah saying Jeremy shouldn't worry about a kid that isn't his. Kind of like when they first started dating and she was throwing her kids at him and telling them to say I love you to him and having him involved for drop offs and such. 

Plus the utter hypocrisy of her saying she won't let Jeremy "harm" her kids, she won't allow it!  

The kid was with her Grandma!  Who probably gets very little time with Addy anyway, considering Jeremy is rarely around.  It's like it never occurs to her that some people enjoy being around family, and visiting.  The Grandma isn't raising Addy, just getting a couple of hours to be a grandma.

But the absolute funniest part was where, WHILE complaining about Jeremy passing off Addy, Leah said if she knew that, she would have sent Victoria to pick up Addy.  That's the same thing as Jeremy!

Edited June 8, 2016 by TaxNerd

[Tatum]

8 hours ago, SPLAIN said:

That's right. Let me go down the list:

Kail: She didn't need a man for jack shit. Seriously? Did I read some comments that mentioned because she wasn't sure Teen Mom 2 was going to continue, she needed the stability of being married? Tell me I read that wrong. What has happened to our young girls that in order for them to need stability it must come with having a guy between their legs? Kail already had at least two seasons of TM money under her belt and !6 & Pregnant money. Remember, TM2 went into production two months after 16 & Pregnant ended.  She was working part-time, if I am remembering correctly. She had Jo who is in her child's life and she had Jo's family to help her with Isaac and possibly other needs if only she wasn't so vindictive. Instead, she spat on them and later, hooked up with the guy who walked into her job and decided it was time to get "benefits". Plenty of single parents (men and women) do it on their own everyday of the fucking week without TM money and without having to marry someone for benefits. Kail was able to provide for herself a nice, little apartment. Millions of single parents have succeeded with a lot less. 

 

Leah: Lost her father at a young age. Mama Dawn and company filled her head with bullshit about being a mother at a young age in spite what Mama Dawn said on camera. Leah has sexual urges and needs and seems to have had them since she was very young. She was with Robbie for three years. That relationship began when she was 13 years old. Leah cannot be without a guy and when she has one, they must live together. She doesn't work. She depends on the guy to bring home the money. I guess her job is to satisfy them sexually. Leah needs intense therapy. 

 

I think Kail and Leah both feel like they need a man, but for very different reasons.

 

Kail I think is driven by two separate things which sometimes contradict each other- and that is image and control. She is all about image and wants to have all the control. In a way that makes sense- for the first 17 years of her life she was likely looked down on as white trash, due to being homeless at times, having an alcoholic mother, an absentee dad, and the real feather in her cap, getting pregnant as a teen. In the early years, she also had a complete lack on control over any part of her life. I think she's a raging bitch who spits in the faces of people who want to help her, but I do sympathize with her shitty upbringing. She doesn't want a man, she doesn't want a partner, she wants a husband. An employed, preferably educated, husband with a clean record. She wants him to be employed and educated not just for the income and the benefits (although that is a sweet bonus), but because he will complete her picture of what a young upper middle class stable family looks like. The problem with that is that by having a husband, she has to yield some control, which she does not want to do. I think what she always wanted was a husband who would give her the appearance of being a "normal", upstanding young mother, but who would also stay out of her way, let her make all the decisions, and not challenge her in any way. That, probably more than the benefits, is what pushed Kail to pressure Javi to enlist- she wanted that guy deployed and out of her hair from day one. I don't think she's ever had a romantic attachment to any of the partners she's had onscreen- romantic attachment in her eyes equals vulnerability and vulnerability equals a loss of control.

 

Leah is the exact opposite. That girl craves male attention the way a junkie craves a fix. Maybe it's daddy issues, maybe something else, but that girl is not happy unless she's getting a satisfactory amount of attention from someone with a penis. And that's not just when she is single- when she's with a boyfriend or a husband, she expects 100% of their attention as well as constant expressions of adoration and sexual desire. I would bet this has been going on for years, and Dawn should have gotten Leah into counseling and maybe put a little more value on education. Not sure if that was a chicken or the egg thing- did Dawn push Leah to get married and/or make herself attractive to men because Dawn could see how intellectually limited Leah was and this was basically Darwinism, or did Leah not develop intellectually because Dawn convinced her it wasn't important? Not sure, but Leah does not feel she has any value as a person unless a guy is fawning over her, at all possible times.

 

All these girls, except for maybe Chelsea, should have been in therapy. And MTV, if they cared about these girls, would encourage them to start. And a real therapist, who doesn't want to be filmed. No Dr. Drew or Dr. Jenn or a marriage counselor who just wants to drum up local business.

[charmed1]

Oh don't spare Chelsea from the therapy. "Fat, stretch marks having bitch," probably wasn't even the most verbally abusive thing said to her. It was just the worst caught on camera. We've repeatedly heard Adam call her dumb, stupid and other assorted gems. I do hope she sought some kind of counseling off camera.

[teapot]

On ‎6‎/‎6‎/‎2016 at 11:38 PM, Maire said:

 

So how did Jace get home? Hope Barbara didn't drive after her big glass of wine (no shade, I love Barb).

 

I love how Barb grabbed her glass & chugged it, but then she said she was going to get Jace.  I'm like, "no, Barb, you can't drive!"  LOL

[teapot]

On ‎6‎/‎7‎/‎2016 at 9:39 AM, FlowerofCarnage said:

 

Did anyone catch Ali walking up the steps with Gracie? That has to be very taxing for her aND the logical conclusion should be Leah need to find a single-level home but this is Leah we are talking about.

 

Did anyone catch Gracie tumbling *up* the stairs?  I was having a panic attack

[Mkay]

Yes, my household said it reminded them of the grudge or the exorcist. Hahaha

[Lemons]

18 hours ago, lezlers said:

 

Jenelle is the way she is for a reason.  That reason is Barbara.  I really do think Barbara is as much as a drama whore as Jenelle, it's just a different drug of choice.  For Jenelle, that drug is men.  For Barbara, it's Jenelle.

So every time you meet someone who's a real piece of shit, you think, yep, it's the mother.  If they only had a different mother. 

Jenelle is Barbara's child, not a drug. 

[Uncle JUICE]

This finale, or at least three quarters of it, makes me feel really uneasy for pretty much everyone who doesn't live with Pete The Pig (season MVP, btw). Between Kail and her eventually having to deal with the emotional fallout she's covering those two kids (mainly Isaac) with through this divorce stuff, and the seven kinds of hell Jenelle's creating for herself and her kids, Leah, whose history with "anxiety" is more than likely to show up again at some point...I mean Chelsea's wedding storyline is going to be REQUIRED levity for next season. This show is so far from what it was when it started...

[SneakyCentipede]

On 6/7/2016 at 10:10 AM, woodscommaelle said:

He's more than likely that one weird kid at school who no one likes. 

That's not nice, and probably not true. As a mother of a 4 year old boy and stepmother to a 5 and 7 year old girls; boys are gross and think it's funny to gross girls out.

Poor Jace has enough of a shitstorm of a life ahead of him because of Jenelle's poor choices, so the last thing he needs is us adding "unpopular kid" to that list.

[blubld43]

On 6/7/2016 at 11:00 AM, Calm81 said:

Chelsea & Helium - I could not muster any sex drive for a man that talks about having kids while talking weird and making goofy faces. I doubt Chelsea regularly has an orgasm with him, but I wish them well because they obviously love each other a lot. Cole please don't talk in the bedroom. :-)

Amen!  I see no heat between these two at all,but maybe it works for them.

[SheTalksShit]

3 hours ago, Blissfool said:

Re: david vs nathan. I think nathan was the scariest last season when he had supposedly left out of town and unexpectedly  walked into the house when jenelle was laying on the couch talking to her friend. He had such anger within him during that time. He was lashing out at her with such hatred that i actually felt sorry for her. I remember thinking "this guy is gonna kill her. "

So far, david hasn't made me feel that scared. He's been pretty chill with her. 

Thank you, I so agree. Or the time when he went on a crazy drunken rant and called her all sorts of names, including that she's white trash who hit the lottery. Or when he admitted to hitting her at the Reunion, remember that? He was like, "She hit me, too!" IDC. IDC how shitty of a mom she is, how crazy she is, how much of a shitty person she is, how bad her character is, she is a 5'1 inch girl up against a 6 foot, built guy - she is of NO physical threat to him at all. 

[SheTalksShit]

10 hours ago, Mkay said:

She admitted that she had. A few times. She said something about not wanting to share everything.  One of them was a semi famous. It was mentioned he was in the public eye.  

 

http://www.wetpaint.com/chelsea-houska-new-famous-boyfriend-826493/

That was in 2014, like a few months before she met Cole. (By that time, Adam had refused to give her his # bc of Taylor). So she was starting to move on by then. But for 4-5 years, she hadn't moved on and was all about Adam. Chelsea is picky, I think that's why it took her so long to move on, tbh. I'm actually surprised someone as picky as Chelsea would end up with someone with a personality like Cole. I mean, I'm happy for her, he's good-looking and he seems like a good guy, character-wise, but he is just so weird and awkward. The baby voice is annoying enough when girls do it, but guys, it's just odd, IMO. not cute or sexy at all. 

[lezlers]

1 hour ago, Lemons said:

So every time you meet someone who's a real piece of shit, you think, yep, it's the mother.  If they only had a different mother. 

Jenelle is Barbara's child, not a drug. 

Of course not.  But considering Barbara acts the same way as Jenelle with the constant screaming and going from zero to eleven in 60 seconds flat with no attempts whatsoever to shield Jace from it, yeah, I'm going to go ahead and draw that logical conclusion.  There's also the fact that all three of Barbara's children have severe issues.   That's one hell of a coincidence.

And I said drama with Jenelle is her drug.  I'm very well aware that Jenelle is her child.  Can't miss it.

Edited June 8, 2016 by lezlers

[lezlers]

18 hours ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

She did get pregnant, but had a miscarriage, and I don't remember that their marriage was all that wonderful at that time.  I'm glad she hasn't added yet another kid to the mix, but I think luck (or fate, for the more squeamish) played a part in it.

I think Javi's reaction to the miscarriage was the final nail in the coffin of their marriage.  I wouldn't want to get pregnant by him again either after that.  What a douchebag.

[Harperlee1]

59 minutes ago, SneakyCentipede said:

That's not nice, and probably not true. As a mother of a 4 year old boy and stepmother to a 5 and 7 year old girls; boys are gross and think it's funny to gross girls out.

Poor Jace has enough of a shitstorm of a life ahead of him because of Jenelle's poor choices, so the last thing he needs is us adding "unpopular kid" to that list.

I agree with this. My son would've thought what Jace did was hilarious, and so would his little friends. At that age, boogers and poop and farts are funny for boys.

[SheTalksShit]

7 minutes ago, lezlers said:

I think Javi's reaction to the miscarriage was the final nail in the coffin of their marriage.  I wouldn't want to get pregnant by him again either after that.  What a douchebag.

I'm sure Javi was a dick to her and that's inexcusable, but he's overlooked a LOT of Kail's fucked up behavior towards him and moved forward. Like he's given her a LOT of passes. But she gave him none. and that's fine, that's her right. But I just don't see Kail working with ANYONE, long-term. 

Javi has his faults, but I think that, ultimately, he'll be able to settle into a healthy, long-term relationship with someone. I don't think Kail will because I don't think she's capable of having a healthy, long-term relationship. 

[Brooklynista]

49 minutes ago, blubld43 said:

Amen!  I see no heat between these two at all,but maybe it works for them.

Chelsea probably needs it that way.  I can sort of understand it.  Adam was probably blowing her dumb little young mind with the sex.  She couldn't get away from it. Its like that a lot of times with bad boy assholes.  You know they hate you, but damn the sex is good.  Cole looks to me like regular ole, run of the mill, stress free sex.  After the hurricane of Adam, the calm that is Cole is certainly very welcoming to Chels.

[VioletNevermind]

2 minutes ago, Brooklynista said:

Chelsea probably needs it that way.  I can sort of understand it.  Adam was probably blowing her dumb little young mind with the sex.  She couldn't get away from it. Its like that a lot of times with bad boy assholes.  You know they hate you, but damn the sex is good.  Cole looks to me like regular ole, run of the mill, stress free sex.  After the hurricane of Adam, the calm that is Cole is certainly very welcoming to Chels.

You are so, so, so very right.

[Uncle JUICE]

Damn, now I'm half wondering what sort of sex people think I'm giving out, even though it only goes to one person, so I guess it's immaterial. Jeez ladies, #realtalk. :)

[Chicken Wing]

Am I the only one who thinks Cole is probably a freak in bed? :)

[ghoulina]

20 hours ago, fetching said:

 

Karl and Javi are so selfish. Did you ever think before you decided to make a baby together and hitch your wagons that you might want to discuss things like how many kids you want, career goals, and any other thing that might become a deal breaker?

 

Even if they did discuss it, people change their minds. Life happens. Deployment and college and Kail is feeling overwhelmed. When you commit to someone, it's not just "until we grow apart" or "unless you change your mind". It's for better or worse. Javi is acting like a 5-year-old.

[Tatum]

15 minutes ago, Chicken Wing said:

Am I the only one who thinks Cole is probably a freak in bed? :)

No, I don't see him as a freak in bed at all. I think all these guys are probably pretty quick and vanilla, with the possible exception of Adam. Based on a picture his ex posted on social media, I'd say Adam has some un-vanilla tendencies. Everyone else though, I find doubtful.

[Blissfool]

13 minutes ago, Chicken Wing said:

Am I the only one who thinks Cole is probably a freak in bed? :)

I don't know about cole, but i refuse to believe that adam is. Yuck. He's so selfish and into himself in the real world that i can imagine how he would be in bed. It would be all about him. Sadly, i don't think Chelsea has much to compare it with. 

Damn! Just thinking about all this makes me barf and lol at the same time.

[Chicken Wing]

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Damn! Just thinking about all this makes me barf and lol at the same time.

I know, right? New subject, please! So, how 'bout them Cavs, amirite?

[Blissfool]

4 minutes ago, Chicken Wing said:

I know, right? New subject, please! So, how 'bout them Cavs, amirite?

Yeah...is steph curry a freak in bed?

Jk. Jk. Dont answer that!

[Tatum]

13 minutes ago, Blissfool said:

I don't know about cole, but i refuse to believe that adam is. Yuck. He's so selfish and into himself in the real world that i can imagine how he would be in bed. It would be all about him. Sadly, i don't think Chelsea has much to compare it with. 

Damn! Just thinking about all this makes me barf and lol at the same time.

In all fairness, someone self centered can still be into some freaky shit, which I am pretty sure Adam is.

 

chicken wing- is this conversation more or less disturbing than the three page debate on how exactly Gary time worked logistically?