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  1. Tatum

    The Hills

    I thought Whitney was a legit intern. Thanks for clarifying. And I will forever miss B-side mocking Lisa Love- 'this isn't the "Teen Vogue" way of doing things'- generally framed as some reprimand to Lauren.
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    Kailyn: Kail Smash!

    I know they're all older, but I would not take four kids swimming in an ocean if I was the only adult present. Or did someone else go?
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    Jenelle: Birther Of 3, Mother To None

    The thing I find most shocking about Nathan's video is that Jenelle would Facetime Kaiser multiple times a day. I suspect she was using Facetime to obliquely spy on Nathan and Ashley. Thank god Kaiser is a boy who so strongly resembles Nathan physically. It may be cynical, but I think that plays a very large part in Nathan's interest in him. I hope his next custody battle is successful. And I hope he is screenshotting or recording whatever notice he's getting that Jenelle has blocked his number. That is unacceptable for a co-parenting situation. Hopefully that hurts her cause in front of the judge.
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    The Hills

    I agree. Not everyone liked Lauren on the original Hills run (or on Laguna Beach for that matter) but most people could relate to her. Not just on the milestones, like graduating high school, moving to a new city for school, starting her first professional job, etc- but the personal side. An unrequited crush that strings you along before ultimately always going back to his bad news (in your eyes) girlfriend? Trying to decide whether or not to take back a cheating boyfriend? Your boss at your first professional job always kind of giving you the side eye? Your best friend dating a jerk and the frustration that comes with always listening to her complain about him, knowing she's going back to him regardless? Meeting up with an ex to exchange stuff and feeling like you're taking this way harder than he is, even though you were the one to end it? Feeling like your colleague that you don't really like that much is the teacher's pet? The list goes on and on. Although I was much less glamorous (I had an office job in Omaha at the time of the original Hills run) watching the first two seasons of The Hills was like watching my (much blonder, prettier, better dressed, and with a better ride) self on TV. (Ironically, I still liked Kristin much better on Laguna. If LC was a prettier and richer version of me, Kristin was who I actually would have liked to have been in high school). This isn't a reboot. Not only is the central character missing, the theme is gone. At this point, the reboot's theme is "I either used to be kind of famous, or have a parent who was kind of famous and I need a paycheck". Which- actually isn't a bad theme. People love to see arrogant people humbled, villains face their comeuppance, and see the underdog make a comeback. This has the workings of a successful show, if packaged the right way. But they really missed the mark styling this as a reboot. It's essentially a "where are they now" stretched over multiple episodes. That even applies to Pam's kid- people are probably interested in him for whatever he can dish about his famous parents' shenanigans now.
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    Leah Messer Simms Messer Calvert Messer...She's 23

    I'll grudgingly give Leah credit...she can laugh at herself at least. Kail would have never posted that.
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    The Hills

    Oh, to be clear, I don't know that's what happened. All four of them have gone on to do other things. Maybe they were great to work with, or maybe they weren't but that's still not why. But since none of them have gone on to do anything as popular as the OC, I wonder if maybe they are avoided by casting directors who heard they were difficult. Or a higher up who holds a grudge. Entirely speculation at this point :). Funny you mention Bilson, I consider her the least successful of the four, (ok, except for Mischa. 3rd least then). Actually, Adam Brody hasn't done much either. But I think Ryan is still on TV right? A cop show? Bilson was on two movies that I saw, and then I think a show that got cancelled pretty quickly. Adam Brody has been in some indy stuff, but I saw he's going to be in a movie that's actually getting a theatrical release this summer. So, there's that. Funny, according to Mischa's wikipedia page, she actually is usually seen as the one bright spot of her generally panned movies. I wonder if she gravitates towards shitty movies or if that was all she could get.
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    The Hills

    It sounds like all four of the main actors on The OC were unprofessional and diva-ish with the adult actors and crew members working with them. And it sounds like their was some inner hostility between some of them towards each other as well. I wonder if the four of them managed to get a bad reputation in the industry that reduced their post OC prospects. I mean, they've all worked in the past decade, but not a lot, and not for anything too mainstream. When you're young and immature, a certain leeway should be extended, I think, but I would still think someone should have advised them not to burn any bridges, even when they're immensely popular. If that is what happened.
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    The Hills

    I'm so curious why she left the show (the O.C.) in the first place. All answers from her and the showrunner are pretty vague. She says it was her choice, and the showrunner kind of implies it was a creative decision, nothing to do with her personally. Tate Donavon though gave an interview and said all the kids (would assume he meant the main four cast members) turned into real assholes when the show got popular. He didn't use the word "assholes" but it seemed pretty heavily implied. Too bad, I always thought that actor that played Ryan was so cute. But multiple sources say he was a jerk, at least when filming that show. I understand young actors can easily get a big head, but I think early 20s is old enough to understand just how fickle Hollywood is, and how quickly your star can fall, and how quickly someone who you've pissed on can all the sudden get a big break.
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    The Hills

    You’re right, it was petty. Especially considering by the time he published his book, Mischa already had fallen from grace quite a bit, professionally, financially, sanity, physically- you name it. (Although in his minor defense, even if he’d had the balls to call her out when it happened- i.e. when she still had a platform to defend herself- he probably didn’t have the vehicle to do it then). Still, you could argue Mischa had her ass kicked up and down the block by karma already so you’re right, it was unkind. that said, as someone who likes Hollywood gossip, even outdated- I’m still going to read it, so glad someone is spilling it.
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    Jenelle: Birther Of 3, Mother To None

    If it were just Jenelle, I would agree it was a good strategic move. However, David is violent and unpredictable, and I think it was an unnecessary risk on Nathan's part. But glad it all turned out okay.
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    The Hills

    No, but supposedly she was friends with Stephanie in the mid 2000s and hung out with her when Stephanie was filming the original run. Not sure I buy that, but as Mischa is the only person on the show I find interesting, I am glad they've found some tenuous way to tie her in.
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    Catelynn (and Tyler)

    He probably means that Dawn has spoken to B&T on their behalf every time C&T overstep.
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    Jenelle: Birther Of 3, Mother To None

    I am side eying Nathan as well for this gesture. I am all for mature co-parenting, but not when one of the parents is toxic and abusive. The story at the top of the page just breaks my heart. Poor Kaiser. I hope he never goes back to live with Jenelle.
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    Maci

    People aren't entitled to $300K a year paychecks for just living their lives on TV. Reality TV pays for trainwrecks. If Maci doesn't want to use her association with Ryan, she doesn't have a storyline, and therefore she doesn't get a paycheck. Maci wants to get trainwreck level paychecks while not providing a trainwreck. Doesn't work that way.
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    The Hills

    Do you mean Jason Priestley? I mean, to be fair, in what I read, he just fired off an anecdote a few years back about being in a shared limo with Mischa and her mom and Mischa was just a complete snot to him...like, the kind of behavior you'd expect from a bratty 12 year old. He said she and her mother sat there whispering about who let this geriatric has-been in their limo...while he is sitting like 2 feet away and can hear every word. I mean, who does that? I don't blame him for talking about it, although I suppose it was convenient to wait and bust that out after her star has already fallen and she has no clout or influence in which to retaliate. I can't really speak to Mischa's talent. It seems like a lot of her teenage roles was playing an exaggerated or glorified version of herself. And her voice always kind of bugged me. If she does still have untreated substance abuse issues though, (and I kind of think she does) I can't see this show facilitating a lasting comeback.
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