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  1. Tatum

    The Hills

    The only one I listened to was Body Language (which I actually liked), and supposedly, they were recording a demo in the studio and Spencer jumped in and "rapped" as a joke, and the demo was "leaked". An astute TWOPer pointed out that studio time is ridiculously expensive, like a per minute charge, and even two chuckleheads like Speidi wouldn't just be screwing around in the studio for funsies.
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    Kailyn: Kail Smash!

    I didn't know Jo had a beautiful ex named Kayle. Have we seen her before? 🙂
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    Kailyn: Kail Smash!

    Knowing Kail, she likely went ahead and booked the trip and told Isaac she wanted to bring him, and if he didn't get to go, it was because his stupid dad wouldn't let him. Jo probably wasn't willing to disappoint Isaac just to stick it to Kail, but wouldn't let him be filmed as a way to fuck with her. I suspect it was petty AF, but if my theory is right, Jo still put Isaac first, so good on him.
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    Girls Next Door

    I loved this show while it was on. Holly Madison got a lot of hate, but she was always my favorite. I thought Kendra could be funny but was mostly annoying. I could not live with someone like her. And Bridget was just super, super sad. Everyone thought Holly was so pathetic for begging Hugh to marry and impregnate her, but I'll never forget the episode where Bridget was crying because her evening class (to get her masters degree) partially conflicted with the Playboy shoot and although Bridget got to participate, she wouldn't be in as much of the spread as the other two. She was actually in tears over not being in as many pictures as Kendra and Holly, despite all three being on the cover together. Her life's ambition was to be jack off material. Sad.
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    The Hills

    I can't believe I'm about to admit this, but I did download "Body language" off limewire back in 2007. It is very heavily auto tuned, but I'd be lying if I said I never found it catchy.
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    The Hills

    I'd be surprised if they got $10 million from the Hills. I mean, they did the odd other reality show appearance here and there, like Celebrity Wife Swap, and Heidi had a couple singles released, and they did some US Weekly exclusives, but I would be surprised if they came even close to $10 million. Maybe Spencer inherited some money or got a big family check that he's tossing in the mix?
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    The Hills

    I thought Whitney was a legit intern. Thanks for clarifying. And I will forever miss B-side mocking Lisa Love- 'this isn't the "Teen Vogue" way of doing things'- generally framed as some reprimand to Lauren.
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    Kailyn: Kail Smash!

    I know they're all older, but I would not take four kids swimming in an ocean if I was the only adult present. Or did someone else go?
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    Jenelle: Birther Of 3, Mother To None

    The thing I find most shocking about Nathan's video is that Jenelle would Facetime Kaiser multiple times a day. I suspect she was using Facetime to obliquely spy on Nathan and Ashley. Thank god Kaiser is a boy who so strongly resembles Nathan physically. It may be cynical, but I think that plays a very large part in Nathan's interest in him. I hope his next custody battle is successful. And I hope he is screenshotting or recording whatever notice he's getting that Jenelle has blocked his number. That is unacceptable for a co-parenting situation. Hopefully that hurts her cause in front of the judge.
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    The Hills

    I agree. Not everyone liked Lauren on the original Hills run (or on Laguna Beach for that matter) but most people could relate to her. Not just on the milestones, like graduating high school, moving to a new city for school, starting her first professional job, etc- but the personal side. An unrequited crush that strings you along before ultimately always going back to his bad news (in your eyes) girlfriend? Trying to decide whether or not to take back a cheating boyfriend? Your boss at your first professional job always kind of giving you the side eye? Your best friend dating a jerk and the frustration that comes with always listening to her complain about him, knowing she's going back to him regardless? Meeting up with an ex to exchange stuff and feeling like you're taking this way harder than he is, even though you were the one to end it? Feeling like your colleague that you don't really like that much is the teacher's pet? The list goes on and on. Although I was much less glamorous (I had an office job in Omaha at the time of the original Hills run) watching the first two seasons of The Hills was like watching my (much blonder, prettier, better dressed, and with a better ride) self on TV. (Ironically, I still liked Kristin much better on Laguna. If LC was a prettier and richer version of me, Kristin was who I actually would have liked to have been in high school). This isn't a reboot. Not only is the central character missing, the theme is gone. At this point, the reboot's theme is "I either used to be kind of famous, or have a parent who was kind of famous and I need a paycheck". Which- actually isn't a bad theme. People love to see arrogant people humbled, villains face their comeuppance, and see the underdog make a comeback. This has the workings of a successful show, if packaged the right way. But they really missed the mark styling this as a reboot. It's essentially a "where are they now" stretched over multiple episodes. That even applies to Pam's kid- people are probably interested in him for whatever he can dish about his famous parents' shenanigans now.
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    Leah Messer Simms Messer Calvert Messer...She's 23

    I'll grudgingly give Leah credit...she can laugh at herself at least. Kail would have never posted that.
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    The Hills

    Oh, to be clear, I don't know that's what happened. All four of them have gone on to do other things. Maybe they were great to work with, or maybe they weren't but that's still not why. But since none of them have gone on to do anything as popular as the OC, I wonder if maybe they are avoided by casting directors who heard they were difficult. Or a higher up who holds a grudge. Entirely speculation at this point :). Funny you mention Bilson, I consider her the least successful of the four, (ok, except for Mischa. 3rd least then). Actually, Adam Brody hasn't done much either. But I think Ryan is still on TV right? A cop show? Bilson was on two movies that I saw, and then I think a show that got cancelled pretty quickly. Adam Brody has been in some indy stuff, but I saw he's going to be in a movie that's actually getting a theatrical release this summer. So, there's that. Funny, according to Mischa's wikipedia page, she actually is usually seen as the one bright spot of her generally panned movies. I wonder if she gravitates towards shitty movies or if that was all she could get.
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    The Hills

    It sounds like all four of the main actors on The OC were unprofessional and diva-ish with the adult actors and crew members working with them. And it sounds like their was some inner hostility between some of them towards each other as well. I wonder if the four of them managed to get a bad reputation in the industry that reduced their post OC prospects. I mean, they've all worked in the past decade, but not a lot, and not for anything too mainstream. When you're young and immature, a certain leeway should be extended, I think, but I would still think someone should have advised them not to burn any bridges, even when they're immensely popular. If that is what happened.
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    The Hills

    I'm so curious why she left the show (the O.C.) in the first place. All answers from her and the showrunner are pretty vague. She says it was her choice, and the showrunner kind of implies it was a creative decision, nothing to do with her personally. Tate Donavon though gave an interview and said all the kids (would assume he meant the main four cast members) turned into real assholes when the show got popular. He didn't use the word "assholes" but it seemed pretty heavily implied. Too bad, I always thought that actor that played Ryan was so cute. But multiple sources say he was a jerk, at least when filming that show. I understand young actors can easily get a big head, but I think early 20s is old enough to understand just how fickle Hollywood is, and how quickly your star can fall, and how quickly someone who you've pissed on can all the sudden get a big break.
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    The Hills

    You’re right, it was petty. Especially considering by the time he published his book, Mischa already had fallen from grace quite a bit, professionally, financially, sanity, physically- you name it. (Although in his minor defense, even if he’d had the balls to call her out when it happened- i.e. when she still had a platform to defend herself- he probably didn’t have the vehicle to do it then). Still, you could argue Mischa had her ass kicked up and down the block by karma already so you’re right, it was unkind. that said, as someone who likes Hollywood gossip, even outdated- I’m still going to read it, so glad someone is spilling it.
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