S08.E09: December: Berkshires County

[ZaldamoWilder]

1 minute ago, Showthyme said:

Would you rather...

See more dogshit scenes or Sonya getting a vagina treatment?

Use Kim Fields or Carole's stylist?

LOL!!  If a newly puffy cooter makes her say fuck no to a Bethy Intervention-Apology, I will take vagine treatments for four hundred please Alex.

Kim's.  I could fix it later.  Maybe. lol

[izabella]

The whole time Bethy was screaming, I kept wondering what she was on.  Yeah, she arrived hot all right.  I also thought it was super convenient that she was in the bathroom the whole time Dorinda was yelling in the kitchen about how nice she made everything.

I also caught Bethy telling Carole immediately when she arrived, "it's off you, it's totally off you, no."  Something about it gave me the feeling that she had planned to go off on Luann to divert focus from Carole's fight with Luann.  Whatever it was, Bethy was totally out of control.

I think Luann is right.  Bethenny is jealous that Luann's life seems to be working out and she's happy.  Ramona is, too.  She so very much wanted to get her story out that she had dated Tom and decided she wasn't interested in him.

For such a large house, it feels so suffocating when these women are there. 

[TomGirl]

14 minutes ago, tribeca said:

Best part of the show was my dad asking me "what ta hell kind of show is this??"

I love your dad!

[oakville]

37 minutes ago, b2H said:

Beginning to wonder if these relationships will survive the season.  Really getting brutal.

And Bethenny?  My opinion of you has changed from last week:. It has dropped lower than a frog's ass.  There is nothing, nothing attractive about your performance.  You even admitted to it, but like flies to dung, you are drawn to it and are prepared to go at it again.  If no one speaks to you by the end of the season, it will be entirely too good for you, in light of your behavior.

I just started watching the show & can't believe how vicious Bethenny is being to Luann. I am on Team Luanne now. Poor Dorinda. She is trying to be a nice host but her guests are behaving like angry brats.

[shoegal]

I don't think Bethenny is jealous of LuAnn, I really hate when "you're just jealous!" gets thrown around. Bethenny's issues with LuAnn have been the same for 10 years, and they flare up at different times. Bethenny has already gone at LuAnn about not "owning her shit" this season, it seems a little something went down with LuAnn this summer either getting grabby or overselling her relationship with B. I find it hilarious that no one wants to tell LuAnn who they are dating for fear she will saddle up to him, throw her leg over his lap and say "I'm next".

[izabella]

Bethenny is aggressively and methodically working her way through the cast.  She started with John and Dorinda, then moved on to Jules and her eating disorder and her house renovation, then it was Sonja's turn for the vicious take down, and now Luann.  Bethy seems to be on a rampage of anger.  I guess Rabidly Angry Spice is what follows Paranoid, Sobbing Mess last season.  Carole, watch your step because the scorpion is going to do what a scorpion does.

[autumnh]

I've watched since season one....I am a NY girl born and bred but Bethenny can just be so exhausting sometimes. Not that she doesn't have some valid points but she is so aggressive and in your face and gogogogogogogo...She cannot calm down...All I could think tonight was is she on adderall? (not saying she is) but c'mon...let it effin go...

 

Focus on Ramona...she is the biggest bullshit artist since the beginning.

[Suck It Trebek]

The scene where Carole and Jules were in the closet had me rolling. All Carole wanted to do was to be quiet and listen and all Jules wanted to do was talk about everything she found in the closet, from hats to wallpaper. Hilarious!

[gatopretoNYC]

Damn Luann, when Ramona is the voice of reason with you (the text apologies) you KNOW you've messed up.

Also, you were a completely, disgustingly, self-absorbed selfish bitch to keep ignoring Jules' concern about her father, in favor of your stupid (in the grand scheme of things) fight with Bethenny. 

[Mondrianyone]

Just now, Straycat80 said:

What are those green statutes that look like Ninja turtles on the mantle in Dorinda's dining room?

I haven't watched tonight's ep yet, but after coming here to read, I can't wait.

Last year I relentlessly tracked down those statuettes and posted what I found out about them.  Here you go (the post is about halfway down): http://forums.previously.tv/topic/27586-s07e10-pop-of-crazy/?page=3

[njbchlover]

Did anyone notice whether or not Bethenny apologized to Dorinda?  I think I recall Luann apologizing, but I don't recall Bethenny acting anything but self-righteous. 

I'm slowly losing any kind of like I may have had for her.  She is a perfect example of someone who believes their own press.  She got popular being the one who was spunky and snarky, but now, she's just shrill and rude.  Bethenny is really becoming a legend in her own mind.

Whatever her reasons for disliking Luann, she's entitled to them, but to offensively strike out in the manner she has been doing, well, I'm thinking she's more of a snake than Luann ever was or will be.  

I think repeatedly screaming "You're a whore!!!" at another woman is really low.  

Edited June 2, 2016 by njbchlover

[oakville]

35 minutes ago, Neurochick said:

Bethenny did her business no favors tonight.  Who would want to do business with her after that performance?  I wouldn't want to be in the same room with her.

I said a similar thing last week. She is destroying her brand. If I was the liquor company that bought her trademarks, I would be furious. She is most unlikable housewife that I can remember since Tamra in RHOC with the "Naked Wasted " fiasco.

[njbchlover]

20 minutes ago, Bronzedog said:

I did kind of laugh when right after the Bethenny/Luanne showdown, they were all "let's go take a nap!"  They are together for about 24 hours and the only way they can get thru it is to sleep as much as possible.

I'm surprised we didn't hear Bethenny yelling at everyone "Go to sleep!!  Go to sleep!!" the same way she did on Scary Island.  This is starting to make me see that episode in a possible different light.  Maybe Kelly wasn't as crazy as we all thought??  (Never mind....I still think that Kelly was batshit crazy!)  

[WireWrap]

4 minutes ago, gatopretoNYC said:

Damn Luann, when Ramona is the voice of reason with you (the text apologies) you KNOW you've messed up.

Also, you were a completely, disgustingly, self-absorbed selfish bitch to keep ignoring Jules' concern about her father, in favor of your stupid (in the grand scheme of things) fight with Bethenny. 

Well, that also applies to Bethenny, Carole, Ramona and her good friend Dorinda, as they too ignored her when she told them about her father/hospital in the bedroom directly after telling Luann.

2 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

I'm surprised we didn't hear Bethenny yelling at everyone "Go to sleep!!  Go to sleep!!" the same way she did on Scary Island.  This is starting to make me see that episode in a possible different light.  Maybe Kelly wasn't as crazy as we all thought??  (Never mind....I still think that Kelly was batshit crazy!)  

Yes, Kelly was/is BSC but that doesn't mean she wasn't spot on about Bethenny! LOL

[njbchlover]

9 minutes ago, izabella said:

Bethenny is aggressively and methodically working her way through the cast.  She started with John and Dorinda, then moved on to Jules and her eating disorder and her house renovation, then it was Sonja's turn for the vicious take down, and now Luann.  Bethy seems to be on a rampage of anger.  I guess Rabidly Angry Spice is what follows Paranoid, Sobbing Mess last season.  Carole, watch your step because the scorpion is going to do what a scorpion does.

I think Bethenny stopped seeing the sockless therapist (Dr. Amadour-?)....and she should be running back to him, ASAP!  

[Bronzedog]

Jules is like one of those girls in high school who is on the periphery of the cool girls because she's good at math or something they can use her for, but, not really part of the group because she's a dork. On the outside looking in.

[Rahul]

Wow, what a literal shit show, thanks in part to Ramona's terror of a terrier Coco.

These women are seriously unhinged--well at least Bethenny, LuAnn and Dorinda anyhow. Who knew making a comment about the cake Dorinda's mother prepared would evoke such a strong reaction? That actually calls into mind an incident from my freshman year of HS when I asked a friend of mine what she was painting in art class. Apparently, the orange blob on her canvas was the beginning of a portrait of her father, which she told me in more colorful words right before she jumped up and sliced my cheek with a palate knife. Needless to say, our friendship was never the same.  

I'm glad Bethenny called Lu out on her immense hypocrisy. I can't stand that slithering snake. And Lu? Stop fronting. Like you were going to leave Dorinda's party for a second. You're the most thirsty bitch on this franchise and will take all the screen time you can get, even if it means being slut shammed on national television. Not surprised one bit that LuAnn totally ignored Jules' message and attempt to talk about her ailing father and made it all about her. Disgusting.

Honestly, I still haven't fully recovered from that episode. These women are exhausting.

[Almost 3000]

10 minutes ago, Mondrianyone said:

I haven't watched tonight's ep yet, but after coming here to read, I can't wait.

Last year I relentlessly tracked down those statuettes and posted what I found out about them.  Here you go (the post is about halfway down): http://forums.previously.tv/topic/27586-s07e10-pop-of-crazy/?page=3

I'd remove them in fear of Ramona breaking them.

[njbchlover]

Just now, Bronzedog said:

Jules is like one of those girls in high school who is on the periphery of the cool girls because she's good at math or something they can use her for, but, not really part of the group because she's a dork. On the outside looking in.

Ha-ha....well, I hope it's math, because we found out tonight that spelling isn't her strong suit (Luann's or Ramon's, either, for that matter)!!  

I felt badly for Jules - she was trying to diffuse the situation, by using whatever she could, including trying to talk about her ill father, but no one was hearing her!!  

[zoeysmom]

2 minutes ago, Almost 3000 said:

I'd remove them in fear of Ramona breaking them.

Or taking them. . . thinking they are samples.

[lightbeam]

45 minutes ago, BogoGog24 said:

 

I would say this party trumps The Dinner Party from Hell. Wouldn't it be delicious to see Bethenny take on Alison Dubois? That's probably one fight I'd like to see Bethenny win. 

This was pretty good, but The Dinner Party from Hell gives me life. 

[Umbelina]

It was good, but not scary island good.

Edited June 2, 2016 by Umbelina

[charmed1]

God, Bethenny is like Estelle Costanza without the funny. What an insufferable woman.

Dorinda is insane.

I'd never heard of the Berkshires prior to The Sopranos episode, so every time I hear it mentioned, I think there's still an incredibly resilient Russian running around with a massive head wound. I'd love it if he'd stumble upon these women. Who am I kidding? LuAnn probably dated him.

[rehoboth]

Was anyone else saying out loud "How is Jules' father???????!!!" when Luann would not let her get a word in edgewise?  Unbelievable.  And then to watch the rest of the episode...

Those harridans make me feel like there is something wrong with me instead of something wrong with them.  All of them.

[sasha206]

I'm hoping that Sonja will convince the Dr. to call the procedure "Vaggy Girl."  See if Beth okays that cheater brand.

[escape]

Bethenny's anger towards Luann really has more to do with unresolved issues from earlier seasons of the show.  Back then, Bethenny was the outsider of the group - the struggling single girl.  And Luann was in her snotty Countess glory - who treated Bethenny as if she was below her.  She completely took Jill Zarin's side when Jill and Bethenny had their fallout and dismissed Bethenny altogether.   Payback's a bitch

Edited June 2, 2016 by escape

[Rahul]

48 minutes ago, sasha206 said:

What's funny to me is I feel like LuAnn is finally being her true self -- the one who enjoys a good romp, a few drinks, and a bawdy good time.  Before they were all over her for her Countess bullshit (which I agree with).  Now she's enjoying her life and doesn't put up a pretense and she's a slut!

I can't imagine the Countess would condone calling another person a "piece of shit" or muttering it under their breath after an argument. LuAnn has been showing a lot of her true colors lately, and they ain't so pretty.

Part of me cannot believe that she would stay in such an environment after the verbal lashing she received from Bethenny. Almost everyone dispersed and LuAnn's presence was clearly the source of much tension, but she kept on following the rest of the women around the house to whatever room they were in. Either that is one brazen bitch, or she seriously needs that Bravo paycheck. 

[njbchlover]

1 minute ago, escape said:

Bethenny's anger towards Luann really has more to do with resolved issues from earlier seasons of the show.  Back then, Bethenny was the outsider of the group - the struggling single girl.  And Luann was in her snotty Countess glory - who treated Bethenny as if she was below her.  She completely took Jill Zarin's side when Jill and Bethenny had their fallout and dismissed Bethenny altogether.   Payback's a bitch.

I find it interesting that Bethenny says she doesn't hold a grudge - she speaks her piece and moves on, but apparently, with Luann, at least, that is not the case.  She clearly is still feeling the burn she felt when Luann may have treated her poorly in the past.  Now, Bethenny is rich - much richer than Luann will ever be, so she feels she can get even with Luann now?  

Who's the hypocrite now?  

[breezy424]

What a pathetic episode.  So pathetic that I'm on Lu's side and I can't stand Lu.  Lower your voice Beth.  Who the heck cares that Lu likes to take men home and doesn't own it.  How does that affect you?  Oh wait.  You didn't have a problem in Turks.  Heather did because it did affect her.  What a hypocrite. 

Beth couldn't finish anything she was saying?  What?  She was on a manic diatribe.  And yeah, your hair cut 'does' look like Lu's except Lu's highlights are nicer (JMO).   And she did owe Doris an apology.

Dorinda went off about her mother.  What?  Lu was right.  At least it wasn't a close up shot of Doris with something in her teeth.  I guess she doesn't need the dirty martinis to set her off.

Ro is an instigator.  And the extensions look really bad.  Leave your dog home if he can't behave in someone's home.

That house must have been really cold.  Everyone is wearing jackets or sweaters.  My house can get chilly in the wintertime but I push up the thermostat for company.

Oh Carole, being team Beth may be good for the TPTB but it's not for the viewers. 

Lastly,  Beth claims she's never gone off on someone like that.  I highly doubt it.  That's your style - know it all and bitch till the end. 

[Bronzedog]

Got it!  Jules is Amy Farrah Fowler.

[Pepperminty]

When are they going to call out Dorinda for being a sloppy, old drunk?
They make a big deal over Sonja's drinking so why not Dorinda? Even her tag line is sad -- something about margheritas...

Bethenny was just ugly tonight. I've always been a fan but I saw tonight just how much of a shrew she is and actually felt sorry for Jason.

[100PercentPain]

Y'all, I haven't watched yet because Stanley Cup finals but I am so freaking excited after reading here. This show is a hot mess in all the best ways this season. 

Edited June 2, 2016 by 100PercentPain

[lyric]

1 hour ago, chewycandy said:

What did Carole's shirt say? I could never make out the words. The wallpaper..."that's the mark of a wealthy person!"

Dear Santa, I want it all.

18 minutes ago, Umbelina said:

Why didn't Henry mention the mugging when he said his sister was 'sick'?  Did they TELL him not to say anything, and if so, what possible excuse did they give?

Hee...what?

I cannot stand LuAnn but Bethenny, calm down, Smalls.  Jesus. 

Edited June 2, 2016 by lyric

[breezy424]

Who's Henry?

[RHJunkie]

Ramona is a piece of work. Firstly, what Luann is saying is possible - it's possible that Luann didn't know about Tom dating Ramona BEFORE she started seeing him but when told her, it didn't matter to her because she liked him. Secondly Ramona, you don't get to put down Luann for not being a good friend to you by talking to you first when you're idea of being a friend to Luann consists of talking shit about her behind her back and fuelling the fire in a conversation that you had nothing to do with. 

Bethenny wanted to a pick a fight with Luann. Absolutely nothing shown warranted the idiotic attack that she went in for. Firstly Bethenny, why is bullshit that Luann is dating someone that Ramona went out with a handful of times? Why does he become unavailable to any woman that knows Ramona when it was clearly not a big deal since they didn't last long at all and 7 dates hardly constitutes a relationship? And secondly, nothing Luann said suggested that she claimed to have created the idea, what she did say suggests that feels a part of it because she was the one with you when the product was first introduced to the world. And why now discount Luann has having any involvement when you put pen to paper to thank her in your book for helping you with the creation of Skinny Girl? And it's absolutely juvenile to go and talk about someone when they're within earshot. Why are you involving all of the other women? Bethenny takes things too far. Sometimes her honesty is needed in a situation. This time she was simply being a vile human being. Don't claim that you don't care who and how many people someone is banging and then turn around and call them a slut. Call Luann what you like Bethenny, you are a bitch and you possess little redeeming about you. You are not a saviour of the truth or being real, you are only feeding your own ego in believing that what you say, how you think and what you do is the best way to be. Oh and Bethenny, you said that Sonja needs to pick a lane...well so do you. You can't claim that Sonja is smart, calculated and knew what she was doing going after your business but then sit there and claim that Luann's lifestyle is bad for poor, defenseless Sonja as if Sonja is only smart when it's convenient for her  so that she can be mad at her and put her down. 

Carole, shut the hell up. Dorinda told you that Luann was coming. You no longer need to fish for an apology for Luann saying nasty things to you when you are engaging in the same childish and nasty behaviour. And Bethenny was the only one screaming and you put the blame on Luann as if she shouldn't have been there. Piss off. 

Luann had me laughing when she started talking about the birthday cake, lol. She was just joking around and she never said anything bad about the cake at all. After everything that happened, it was Luann making jokes about her non-birthday that sets her off. 

And yes Dorinda, it is your job as a host to step in when one guest is being incredibly disrespectful to another house. The longer you allow it to take place, the more uncomfortable the attacked guest will feel. Bethenny completed disrespected her and her home and Dorinda did nothing to stop it. 

Edited June 2, 2016 by RHJunkie

[FanOfTheFans]

Luann was pretty funny in the kitchen. I think she felt like she was in the twilight zone. Dorinda says it's not her birthday but here is a birthday cake spiel was hilarious. Then Dorinda misunderstands and rips her over the cake and her Mom which was totally random as Lou wasn't dissing her Mom.

Bethenny had some points about Lou with her countess verses who she really is but Behenny's delivery is beyond obnoxious and that has always been her problem. Lou should just own her behavior and fly that flag cuz this is 2016 and slut shaming is a no go and Bethenny, get thyself back to the therapist. 

Gotta say that one thing I appreciate about the NY ladies is they don't drag out their arguments like on BH. Direct and to the point. I'm all for that. None of the BS that was, or wasn't said, off camera.  That was pretty much the whole season of BH. 

There was just a lot of little gems in the show tonight. I think I need to watch it again. 

[Bronzedog]

26 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

Or taking them. . . thinking they are samples.

She could sit staring them while wearing the dress she stole from Bethenny.

[njbchlover]

I know it's wrong, but all I could think of when they were showing Coco's poop all over the place was "I don't blame the dog - if I was there, I'd be shitting, too..."

[Rahul]

1 hour ago, tribeca said:

Best part of the show was my dad asking me "what ta hell kind of show is this??"

Answer: A shit show. 

(ba dum bum)

[ninjago]

LuAnn just gets under Beth's skin so badly and it's like the more irked Beth gets, the calmer Lu gets.

[Straycat80]

32 minutes ago, Almost 3000 said:

I'd remove them in fear of Ramona breaking them.

Or steal them. Or does she just steal dresses from the talk shows she goes on? 

[The Mighty Peanut]

All I could think the whole time was that could have been better if Heather Thompson had been there like don't tell me nothin', motherfucker

Edited June 6, 2016 by The Mighty Peanut

[njbchlover]

2 minutes ago, FanOfTheFans said:

Luann was pretty funny in the kitchen. I think she felt like she was in the twilight zone. Dorinda says it's not her birthday but here is a birthday cake spiel was hilarious. Then Dorinda misunderstands and rips her over the cake and her Mom which was totally random as Lou wasn't dissing her Mom.

Bethenny had some points about Lou with her countess verses who she really is but Behenny's delivery is beyond obnoxious and that has always been her problem. Lou should just own her behavior and fly that flag cuz this is 2016 and slut shaming is a no go and Bethenny, get thyself back to the therapist. 

Gotta say that one thing I appreciate about the NY ladies is they don't drag out their arguments like on BH. Direct and to the point. I'm all for that. None of the BS that was, or wasn't said, off camera.  That was pretty much the whole season of BH. 

There was just a lot of little gems in the show tonight. I think I need to watch it again. 

I just want to know - did Dorinda's Mom bake or buy that cake?  First, Dorinda said her Mom bakes her a vanilla cake every year, then, when she was going off on Luann, she said her Mom bought the cake -- which was it?     ;-)

[escape]

12 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

I find it interesting that Bethenny says she doesn't hold a grudge - she speaks her piece and moves on, but apparently, with Luann, at least, that is not the case.  She clearly is still feeling the burn she felt when Luann may have treated her poorly in the past.  Now, Bethenny is rich - much richer than Luann will ever be, so she feels she can get even with Luann now?  

Who's the hypocrite now?  

But did they ever resolved what happened back then? I remember Ramona saying that if Luann had not interfere at her apartment, maybe Jill and Bethenny would have made up. I thought Luann was a hypocrite when she told Bethenny she thought of her as family.

[movingtargetgal]

18 minutes ago, Rahul said:

Either that is one brazen bitch, or she seriously needs that Bravo paycheck. 

Both

[WireWrap]

3 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

I just want to know - did Dorinda's Mom bake or buy that cake?  First, Dorinda said her Mom bakes her a vanilla cake every year, then, when she was going off on Luann, she said her Mom bought the cake -- which was it?     ;-)

IMO, she was so worked up she was misspeaking, trying to say "brought" but it came out as "bought". LOL

[njbchlover]

Just now, WireWrap said:

IMO, she was so worked up she was misspeaking, trying to say "brought" but it came out as "bought". LOL

Worked up or "wined" up??     ;-)

[BlackMamba]

I'm not even laughing with Bethenny anymore.   I'm laughing at her.  Seriously we are now resorting to slut shaming when LuAnn decides to take her on.   And bullshit at the notion Bethenny feels bad.   Thats her new MO.   She throws shade and tries to humiliate the group individually but claims she feels bad.   Bitch, please.  She loves to hurt others to feel better.  All these women are socially active and for her to even remotely call LuAnn a "slut" speaks to the fact she could very well be jealous that LuAnn is getting more action than her! 

Dorinda really cried like a little drunk bitch because someone dissed big momma's cake?  And yet she wasn't this emotional when Bethenny was slut shaming LuAnn.   She definitely was the worst host.   From who she invited to how she handled the situations. 

Last but not least I want to put a sock so deep in Carole's throat.   She's still bringing up this bullshit from last season  and her boyfriend.   She's trying way too hard to fish for a storyline.   LuAnn isn't even giving her any attention so much so Carole had to ease drop from a closet.   Please,  why is Carole still on this show,  Andy!  This woman is a snoozefest. 

Other than that,  good episode overall.   Great bitch fights and LuAnn was completely unbothered even though she started the drama last week,  she held her own in the pack of wolves. 

Edited June 2, 2016 by BlackMamba

[WireWrap]

9 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

Worked up or "wined" up??     ;-)

Both! LOL

[absolutelyido]

1 hour ago, Suck It Trebek said:

The scene where Carole and Jules were in the closet had me rolling. All Carole wanted to do was to be quiet and listen and all Jules wanted to do was talk about everything she found in the closet, from hats to wallpaper. Hilarious!

Quote

The wallpaper..."that's the mark of a wealthy person!"

That was my favorite scene, it had me laughing out loud.

"You're a terrible spy".

Edited June 2, 2016 by absolutelyido