S05.E19: The Party's Over

[Satchels of gold]

Kim did assert herself without acting unhinged . Perhaps if she had done that earlier we would have been spared the season from hell.

[Baltimore Betty]

And for the record, I have bronchitis and I am not 100% in pain.

[chlban]

I couldn't take it beyond this point, simply could not. I'm sure I missed a lot of good stuff. 

Ditto. Couldn't finish watching. Bad sign.

 

What I came away with is this. If these women have a collective brain between them, and I actually think a couple of them are quite intelligent, they will back off and leave Brandi and Kim alone. Completely. There is no greater punishment you could bestow upon either of then, than allow them to be BFF's. Each other for company. Forever. The third portal of hell. 

 

I also came away with Kim Richards a 50 something woman declaring that Brandi the tramp, a person she did not know until a few years ago, and hated until what a year and a half ago is her very best, best friend. Seriously? I have a friend I roomed with in College, another friend I learned to ride a bike with, and several others that I have known for decades. I have friends I have made in recent years too my dog park buddies, work friends,  etc., and I enjoy the heck out of them as well. Nothing wrong with forming new and strong friendships. but if someone you detested until 2013 is you BFF, honey, take a good look at your selfish, nasty self.

 

I wish Brandi and Kim years of happiness. Together. As BFF's.    All by themselves.

[QuinnM]

 

At the end the only thing I am sure of is that Kim Richards is an asshole. She is a whole ball of narcissistic need, want and jealousy that will suck the life out of everyone who loves her. I would almost rather believe that she is using again that believe that she is sober. If she is using than at least we could blame it all on that. If she is sober than this is just her toxic personality and I am not sure there is a cure for that.

 

The paps telling her to switch with Paris on the step and repeat was classic.  Kim you never were nor will you ever be as famous as Paris.  Kim you never made near the money that Maurice or Paris or Nicky or for that matter LisaR makes.  She spent the whole night pursuing her agenda and the you go here, you go there, don't stand there, I want this, I want that did little to convince me that she is not exactly what you say.  

 

Ugh, I can't stand another season of the Kim show.  It would be different if there was interaction but pretty much everyone has declared her frightening.  No one wants to engage her so it does become all about Kim.  Give her a spin off if you must because then I can just not watch.

[slade3]

Starting out shallow: I can't believe how much of Brandi's hair was a weave. When her "live-in hair stylist" was trying to comb her hair (he looked as if he'd never touched her hair before), I could see all the attachments. I know she says she wears fake hair, but that was a lot of weave. Also, her live-in hair stylist has the same face as her female friend who is always with her. Is that plastic surgery or are they related?

 

Lisa R is the gal you hang out with when you want to laugh and be superficial. She is not the woman you hang out with when you are having a disagreement, argument or fight. She will not back you up. I was happy Eileen called her out on her behavior at the party, but also hope Eileen steers clear of her when it comes to conflict, and don't ever repeat anything Lisa R says, or back her up when she gets into with someone. Let Lisa R get out of her own messes.

 

Yolanda has looked wonderful these last few episodes. I love her in slim-fitting black outfits. I wish I liked her personality more.

 

Kim is a nightmare.

 

That "Danish prince" made me gag when he was kissing Camille. He looked so desperate!

ETA: The "Danish prince" : http://stoopidhousewives.com/2015/03/21/who-is-the-phony-prince-mario-max/

Edited March 25, 2015 by slade3

[TexasGal]

Oh. I assumed you meant Kim. Personally, I'd prefer to hang with Kingsley.  

No kidding.  Kingsley probably at least gives a little warning growl before he turns on you.  Kim, not so much.

[chlban]

First thing I thought of when she said that - "well, we know the point you're trying to make, but your BEST friend's name also starts with a K - not just her sister's"....

Really? Cuz the first thing I thought was what kind of woman would ever use that disgusting term about another woman. Then I remembered, it wasn't a woman that said it, it was a piece of trash.  

[motorcitymom65]

Really? Cuz the first thing I thought was what kind of woman would ever use that disgusting term about another woman. Then I remembered, it wasn't a woman that said it, it was a piece of trash.  

That was a strange scene to me. There has been much talk on this forum about how everyone else on the show cannot keep Kim or Brandi's names off of their lips. Why were they bringing up Kyle when trying to do something as difficult as make Brandi's hair look presentable? They needed to keep their entire focus on that particular task at hand. 

[jinjer]

LOL

 

Well, jackasses stick together.

 

Someone posted a tweet from Brandi which showed she received messages from YoFo and LisaR when her father was in the hospital. Pointing out how those two were concerned about her dad. If Brandi's dad was in the hospital during this filming, are we to believe Brandi was not on the outs (yet) with LisaR during this last episode?

Brandi thanked Lisa for her texts and told her she was so sweet last night.  Brandi remarked after the season, and after Rinna was on her podcast, that she and Rinna had gotten along all season and she thought everything was fine between them.  It wasn't until Lisa R was on WWHL and said that Brandi had a drinking problem (more of a "What do you think?' when asked) that Brandi realized that Rinna really didn't like her.  That's when they had a falling out.

 

I'm totally on Team Rinna. Not only does Lisa have to worry about what fucking nutso Kim is gonna do in public if she gets mad, she has to worry about her own reaction, and how it is going to affect her family. I don't blame her one bit for backing down. She basically tried to tell Kim oh hell no, you told me not to talk to you about it so I'm not. Kim just wouldn't shut the fuck up long enough to hear it. I also don't blame her for the talk with Kyle. This is twice now Lisa sits down to discuss Brandi and the convo gets turned to Kim. That's not Lisa's fault. I mean she has to talk about something. I don't get why everyone else can discuss these two idiots but when Lisa does it she's the worst gossip spreader that ever lived.

I think Rinna may have realized that Kyle was making it a much ado about nothing/sinister conversation to drive a wedge between Brandi and Kim more than out of concern for Kim maybe at that moment at the table with Kim.  Could she possibly have a conscience?  And that is why she went over to tell Brandi that she may have caused a problem and let Kim know that their conversation that day came from a good place.  ETA - probably not - she just didn't want Kim and Brandi shrieking at her.

 

Above a poster noted that Lisa R did Brandi a solid by telling Kim that whereas Brandi was ratting Lisa R out by telling Kim about their convo.  Good point.  But Lisa R was IMO really grabbing on to use Kim as her storyline, which I think she did pretty effectively.

 

I also agree that Brandi and Lisa R would be a great duo next season if Brandi would stay sober.  I think they are both more free spirited/fun loving/trashy than the others.  And Kyle is kind of seething right now about Lisa R.  Too bad Brandi got pissed about Rinna's comments about drinking.   

Edited March 25, 2015 by jinjer

[parisprincess]

The pill mishap isn't what makes me doubt every single word I have just typed. The thing that makes me doubt it is the words from Brandi Glanville's own lips. She is the one who makes me step back - every time I tell myself that Kim is sober I then say,  "but what then was Brandi talking about"? What were the words "it is worse than anyone knows" about? When Lisar said that they needed to address the issues before something bad happened, Brandi said "it already has". That is the thing for me. Everyone keeps talking about how unfair it is for Kim's sobriety to be questioned based on one pill and that is not a fact. If Lisar had come to Brandi and they had began their discussion and Brandi would have said something different, something like "she made a mistake and took one pill but she is sorry, freaked out about it, and otherwise seems fine to me. I think it was just a mistake and I am not worried about her at all" then for the most part, it probably would have ended right there. Brandi is the one who ramped up the fear about Kim and so far she has gotten away with it.

 

So much this!  Brandi made Kim's "situation" sound so dire that, of course, LisaR was concerned.  Had she explained it as you suggested, motorcitymom65, we probably would have been spared a lot of the BS we've had to watch because of that particular conversation. 

[bichonblitz]

I don't get all the Camille love. If Kelsey never humiliated her by dumping her so publicly, she would still be the same entitled, snob that she was before. I don't want to see her back, that goes for Adrienne also. Andy was so pissed off at her for not showing up at her last reunion that he fired her, now she's showing up again and all is forgiven. Next thing you know, we'll be seeing Taylor again. 

 

Lisa Rinna- her problem is that after the Amsterdam fiasco, she realized that Kim will go for the jugular and she doesn't want any of her and Harry's business out there so she has decided to play nice with the crazy. I get that. However,  she should have told Kim that what she said about the intervention was before Amsterdam, and she has respectfully tried to stay out of her business since then.  Own it and be done. 

 

J.R.- Disappointed in him for getting back with Brandi. He's a nice looking, relatively successful guy. There are a gazillion tall, skinny botoxed blondes in LA. Why go back to her? 

 

Little Kathy- she didn't get the awesome hair gene, Kim and Kyle must have inherited that from their Dad. 

 

[mwell345]

 

So far, this episode is not holding my attention and I find myself switching to 1st season reruns of "Chrisley Knows Best".

 

I was doing the same thing,  I am over the Kim Richards show. She is boring  and mean.   And I don't blame Lisa Rinna one bit for not going there - she's seen how vindictive Kim can be and maybe, just maybe Lisa didn't want a scene at Adrienne's party.

 

Brandi can exit any time.  If she didn't burn the other HW's maybe more of them would have reached out when her father was ill. You reap what you sow. 

 

Blah - if Kim and Brandi are back next season, I won't be.

[snowblossom2]

I don't get all the Camille love. If Kelsey never humiliated her by dumping her so publicly, she would still be the same entitled, snob that she was before. I don't want to see her back, that goes for Adrienne also. Andy was so pissed off at her for not showing up at her last reunion that he fired her, now she's showing up again and all is forgiven. Next thing you know, we'll be seeing Taylor again. 

 

Lisa Rinna- her problem is that after the Amsterdam fiasco, she realized that Kim will go for the jugular and she doesn't want any of her and Harry's business out there so she has decided to play nice with the crazy. I get that. However,  she should have told Kim that what she said about the intervention was before Amsterdam, and she has respectfully tried to stay out of her business since then.  Own it and be done. 

 

J.R.- Disappointed in him for getting back with Brandi. He's a nice looking, relatively successful guy. There are a gazillion tall, skinny botoxed blondes in LA. Why go back to her? 

 

Little Kathy- she didn't get the awesome hair gene, Kim and Kyle must have inherited that from their Dad. 

 

I liked your post, except for the first paragraph. I really do think that the marital strife in her marriage to Kelsey contributed to her season 1 portrayal (where I think she was presented as a great villan). I don't think we can underestimate how much her marital troubles affected and permeated the rest of her life. Do I think the "real" Camille is season 2 Camille? Hell no. But I think it's somewhere in the middle, though closer to season 1, especially given her friendship with Allison. But I do cut her a little slack. And I'd much rather have villan Camille than another season of Brandi/Kim

[sistermagpie]

Happy to see Kim assert herself and take control of something that everyone else felt they had the right to take make it their own this whole season. I truly can't believe that all this rides on her slipping during Poker night. Not for nothing but if this is the hellfire addicts are expected to go through because they have a slip then fuck it. I would just stay off the wagon. It's ridiculous. Good on Kim for fighting back this whole season. I for one what her to stay strong even if she does have slip ups. Yaaayyyyy Kim!!

 

 

LOL! Take some control? Control is the one thing Kim does every second of every day. She's no different this season than any other. All her relationships are based around her control: you call her, she doesn't call you. If you leave a message she doesn't call back. If she says she'll meet you somewhere she'll probably be late or not show up. If she feels like doing something for you she will, and she'll expect tons of credit for it, but don't ever presume to count on her for anything. If she's angry at you you will be banished from her company or be glared at. If she decides to speak to you again it will be on her terms, you will follow her new rules and she will always make sure you know that she's being a generous person by forgiving you. Kim's reality is reality. If she gets high in front of you, you must ignore it, accept her explanation of it and then spread that explanation to others. Even her not being a responsible mother is something that she uses to control other people--don't they know how much she's suffered because her disease took her away from them? The kids she sacrifices for so much she finally had to move away from them to be with new boyfriend Ken because just for once she wants to do what she wants?

 

Also, Kim did not "slip" on Poker Night. Them's fighting words. Kim didn't slip at all! She was in pain from a broken rib, bronchitis and a hernia and Monty gave her a pill that didn't agree with her! That's not a relapse and it's not a slip--she's three years sober thanks to her own hard work! You're ruining her reputation and undermining her sobriety by suggesting otherwise!

 

Kim is and always has been Little Anthony from the "It's a Good Life" ep of the Twilight Zone. Any other response than "That's real good you did that, Kim" or "You're right Kim" or "You're the best, Kim" will get you wished into the cornfield. Brandi knows this and sticks to the rules, which is why she's her current bff. 

 

If Lisar had come to Brandi and they had began their discussion and Brandi would have said something different, something like "she made a mistake and took one pill but she is sorry, freaked out about it, and otherwise seems fine to me. I think it was just a mistake and I am not worried about her at all" then for the most part, it probably would have ended right there. Brandi is the one who ramped up the fear about Kim and so far she has gotten away with it.

 

 

Yup. Brandi's the only person in the bunch who's actually claimed to have some knowledge about Kim being in a bad way. Everyone else is meddling, but they've all admitted that it's just based on seeing her high on poker night. If there's any "rumors" they're all from Brandi.

[AuntieDiane6]

 

 

Monty didn't have to live with Kim. He chose to and I think that their love is a beautiful thing.

 

Isn't Monty REMARRIED and wasn't that HIS WIFE who accompanied them to the party?!!??? 

 

IIRC, the wife was introduced during their daughter's wedding.  Please correct me if I'm wrong!

[Trooper York]

That callback from the Twilight zone is awesome! Wha a great analogy!

Brandi should piss her off and get sent into the cornfield. Maybe she can hook up with a little blond boyfriend.

Edited March 25, 2015 by Trooper York

[luleetuni]

The paps telling her to switch with Paris on the step and repeat was classic. Kim you never were nor will you ever be as famous as Paris.

Reminds me of the very first episode of the show season 1. Kim introduced herself to the audience by telling a story about being on the red carpet with paris and the paps yelled kim kim and Paris said "aunt kim" and a pap said "your aunt is a legend she was here first" and kim replied with "yeah I was here first".

Edited March 25, 2015 by luleetuni

[HumblePi]

My brain is still spinning from the final episode. I almost slapped the television set. "she said that you said that I said that you said".... OMG!  Stop already, just stop!  Every crappy episode surrounding nobody but Kim lead up to a great big crappy finale. In my final analysis I have concluded that I don't like Kyle, she squeaks and cries way too much. I don't like Lisa Rinna because she's a pot-stirrer and her skin looks significantly worse in the final two episode than it had the entire season. I'm tired of Kim and her outbursts and big puppy-dog eyes looking all sad and stuff. I'm really tired of watching how the editors have to keep blurring out Brandi's nipples. (girl, that's grounds for arrest in my town) I'm tired of wishy-washy Eileen trying to put a word in edgewise just to be able to justify her paycheck. I'm sick of all the husbands, (as Brandi says 'shoo shoo'). I can still tolerate Yolanda because I hate her for her awesome body but at the same time I can admire it lustfully in a non-lesbian way.

 

I saw a brief clip of the upcoming reunion and I can already see that they're all wearing way too much makeup, the skin on their necks looks like a chiffon scarf I have in my bottom drawer that's been there since I had my second child, and they all look as old as they really are but ridiculous looking because they think they look young and hot.  I'm old and I own it, I do my best not to scare young children but I don't try to pretend I'm not over the hill and, nobody looks at old people anyway.

 

It was a frustrating final episode.I wanted to punch them all in the chest.

 

[runforcover]

Yeah, she was surprising lucid at Adrienne's party. I can't remember the last time I could understand every word that came out of her mouth.

I thought Kim had out-grossed herself two episodes ago.  This perceived entitlement to adult treatment is precisely an example of why this treatment is impossible with a straight face.  I'm with whatever collagen monster said LisaR AND Kyle were terrified of Kim.  They really are passive-aggressive enabler-types.  Throw non-problem Brandi in the mix, whose own self-narrative derails everything in its path, and Kim Effing Richards and Her Very Important Recovery walks away without a scratch. F' that.  She's a delusional pig. 

 

et: uncontrollable cursing

Edited March 25, 2015 by runforcover

[izabella]

LOL! Take some control? Control is the one thing Kim does every second of every day. She's no different this season than any other. All her relationships are based around her control: you call her, she doesn't call you. If you leave a message she doesn't call back. If she says she'll meet you somewhere she'll probably be late or not show up. If she feels like doing something for you she will, and she'll expect tons of credit for it, but don't ever presume to count on her for anything. If she's angry at you you will be banished from her company or be glared at. If she decides to speak to you again it will be on her terms, you will follow her new rules and she will always make sure you know that she's being a generous person by forgiving you. Kim's reality is reality. If she gets high in front of you, you must ignore it, accept her explanation of it and then spread that explanation to others. Even her not being a responsible mother is something that she uses to control other people--don't they know how much she's suffered because her disease took her away from them? The kids she sacrifices for so much she finally had to move away from them to be with new boyfriend Ken because just for once she wants to do what she wants?

 

The funniest line from last night was Brandi saying that "everyone leans on Kim."  I laughed my ass off at the idea that anyone leaned on Kim for anything ever.

[runforcover]

And Kyle, with the dress, and Camille with the same, and Brandi with the boobs - WHY?  Look, I am totally on board with the youth enhancement, the juvederm, the punched-in-the-mouth "look," the frozen head WHATEVER.  I get it.  I do.  But no matter the quality of your surgeon, no matter how young you look, the club dresses Do Not Work.  Ladeez, if you want to spend that much money looking that plastic, don't pair it with a dress a gossip-girl extra wears to the after-prom. Raise the plastic to the age of its wearer - it's counter-intuitive, perhaps but seems to work better.

[Persnickety1]

All this ballyhoo boils down to nothing but, again where Brandi is involved, semantics.

 

Who really gives a flying fuck if Brandi or Lisa R used the specific word "intervention" first?

 

Brandi said Kim was doing worse than anyone knew.

 

Brandi said Kim needed help.

 

Brandi said perhaps Lisa R could talk to Kyle about Brandi's concerns about Kim.

 

Brandi intimated Kim was using a pain med patch.

 

Brandi inferred in every way under the sun that Kim had relapsed, and not just to Lisa R but to her friend Jennifer as well.

 

Brandi also suggested they all could get together to talk to Kim so none of them looked like "the bad guy."

 

Every single thing Brandi said regarding Kim was couched in such a fashion to lead the listener (including the audience) to believe Kim had relapsed to an epic degree and needed help.

 

Otherwise known as an INTERVENTION.

 

So, because Brandi wasn't the first one to say the word "intervention" during that lunch, she gets a pass based on semantics?  

 

Because Kim only cares about who said the precise word "intervention" with no context whatsoever?  

 

Fuck you, Kim Richards.

 

For the record, I do wish Lisa R had nutted up and told Kim precisely how that lunch really went down...But I also completely understand why she didn't.

 

This reunion should be more explosive than the 4th of July.  

[runforcover]

LOL! Take some control? Control is the one thing Kim does every second of every day. 

Fuck, yeah. Kim is a tyrant.  It would be kind of amazing if she weren't such a moron.

[HumblePi]

Isn't Monty REMARRIED and wasn't that HIS WIFE who accompanied them to the party?!!??? 

 

IIRC, the wife was introduced during their daughter's wedding.  Please correct me if I'm wrong!

Monty isn't married. He was married twice. His last marriage was to Terri Lynn Doss  (1991 - 1994) (divorced) (2 children) His first and last love is Kim Richards  (1985 - 1988) (divorced) (1 child). Sad news about Monty. His lung cancer spread to his bones and brain. He won't live too much longer, so sad.

[missyb]

One of the moments I found very telling about this episode ( and is may have already been mentioned but I am too lazy to go back) was when Kim sits down with Brandi, asks about her father for two seconds, says oh, okay, then it is all about her. Brandi's face fell for a moment . It looked to me that she was so disappointed that Kim could not take more than 10 seconds to talk to her about her father.  Brandi seems to be moving on with other ventures in her life. I would not be surprised if she did not come back to the show on her own decision. Still think Leeza Gibbons is advising her. 

[Lakewood27]

I don't get all the Camille love. If Kelsey never humiliated her by dumping her so publicly, she would still be the same entitled, snob that she was before. I don't want to see her back, that goes for Adrienne also. Andy was so pissed off at her for not showing up at her last reunion that he fired her, now she's showing up again and all is forgiven. Next thing you know, we'll be seeing Taylor again.

 

My love for Camille is layered. I love haughty snob season 1 Camille and reformed diplomat season 2 Camille. I love that no matter how much wealth she's accumulated, there's still a whiff of the skanky Club MTV dancer there. I love the house porn she brings to the show, and I loved the way her dancing, bikini body, and flirting made Kyle crazy during that first season.

[thesupremediva1]

 

I'm totally on Team Rinna. Not only does Lisa have to worry about what fucking nutso Kim is gonna do in public if she gets mad, she has to worry about her own reaction, and how it is going to affect her family. I don't blame her one bit for backing down. She basically tried to tell Kim oh hell no, you told me not to talk to you about it so I'm not. Kim just wouldn't shut the fuck up long enough to hear it. I also don't blame her for the talk with Kyle. This is twice now Lisa sits down to discuss Brandi and the convo gets turned to Kim. That's not Lisa's fault. I mean she has to talk about something. I don't get why everyone else can discuss these two idiots but when Lisa does it she's the worst gossip spreader that ever lived.

No offense, but LisaR would have to be learning impaired to want to talk about anything with Kim after what happened in Amsterdam. Seriously, know yourself. She has gone off the handle once by allowing Kim to push her buttons. She was clearly not proud of her actions in Amsterdam. And because she's not the Vacant Parasite, she's not going to just go there again, get screamed at again, fly off the handle again, and hope people give her a pass. She's doing what's best for her and not talking to Kim.

 

I was once in a situation where telling the truth to a family member about their shitty behavior almost put me in the hospital. I was lied to over and over again for years about events that actually happened to me. I tried, time and again, in a kind way, to put a stop to the revisionist history. Then one day, my LisaR switch was flipped and I lost my marbles. I finally yelled and screamed and let it all out, but I did not get physical. I attempted to leave the house through a sliding door, and my relative grabbed my arm as I opened the door, using my arm to try to close the door - this action nearly dislocated my shoulder.

 

Needless to say, despite numerous pleas from other family members to try and "rectify" the situation, I had to drop it. I didn't care how many more lies were being told. It had gotten physical and I was done. To continue putting yourself in dangerous situations will only incite further conflict. This is why I so understand where LisaR is coming from and why I think Kyle really needs to walk away from Kim. Kim cannot accept the truth and will do whatever is necessary to keep from facing herself as she really is. This means anyone and anything is fair game for her wrath. It's disturbing and not all that foreign to me.

 

I can see, however, why Kyle was mad. She was once again thrown to the wolves. That sucks, and it's not helpful, but she and Eileen should be able to see where Lisa's coming from. I wouldn't put myself in front of a viper after being bitten. Kim can only continue being Kyle's problem if Kyle allows it to be so.

 

Loved seeing Adrienne and Camille. I really hope we can trade VP and Kim for them next season. Oh and Adrienne's bf is smoking hot. Good for her!

 

Was it me, or was there about 10 minutes of new (and boring) footage last night? Hey Andy, your audience isn't full of the Kim Richardses of the world - I have a perfectly functioning memory and I can remember what happened last week and five minutes ago. I felt like it was Groundhog Day with that episode.

 

VP really showed her ass last night. She's lost her shit. She's drinking and popping pills. Perfect bosom buddy for Little Kimmy. She was the definition of unhinged last night. Sad. Her rant on Lisa was the worst soap opera acting I've seen in years.

[motorcitymom65]

One of the moments I found very telling about this episode ( and is may have already been mentioned but I am too lazy to go back) was when Kim sits down with Brandi, asks about her father for two seconds, says oh, okay, then it is all about her. Brandi's face fell for a moment . It looked to me that she was so disappointed that Kim could not take more than 10 seconds to talk to her about her father.  Brandi seems to be moving on with other ventures in her life. I would not be surprised if she did not come back to the show on her own decision. Still think Leeza Gibbons is advising her. 

I just cannot imagine that Brandi would decide to not come back. What else does she have? She will try to sell some wine, but that won't make her much money. The books are over. She is trying to sell Fuck You tshirts, but that might have worked in S2 or S3, not now. 

 

She is in exactly the same position as Teresa G was on the NJ show. She made some real cash for a while (with the books), but for the most part they have to cash in when folks still like them. When folks don't like them anymore, they don't buy their crap. It really is as simple as that. No one bought Teresa G's last book, because no one felt the love anymore. Brandi doesn't even own a home yet, or even a car. She is leasing everything.  Brandi is only known to anyone at this point because she is a HW. She will need to remain that way for as long as she can in order to make any of these other things successful. 

[missyb]

I think Brandi would have made a better Orange County Housewife then she does Beverly Hills.  Much more shrieking on OC. Plus, I would kind of  get a kick out of seeing her go after Tamara. Heather would be her new Kyle.

[HumblePi]

A footnote about creepy Prince Mario-Max that Camille was face mashing with (ew). Bravo viewers are  being bamboozled as "Prince Max" is not a prince by birth. He was adopted by his stepfather, HD Prince Waldemar of Schaumburg-Lippe, a member of the princely family of Schaumburg-Lippe, whose head is Prince Alexander. Waldemar's adoption does not make Mario a serene highness or a member of the Princely family with succession rights.  In order for Mario to be a member of the princely family,  he would need to be Waldemar's legitimate son. He's not. He's  not a real prince, but he plays one on TV!  His last 'gig' on National television was a guest bachelor on Bravo's Millionaire Matchmaker. Bravo decided to recycle the 'Prince'.  It seems that Prince Mario-Max likes having his photo taken with rich, California women.

 

I'm sending Brandi a box of these mass-produced rubber nipples. They can be worn either inside or outside a shirt, dress or sweater. If she wants to show her nips so much yet still be all warm and cozy and not leave her chest area exposed to the weather, she might consider wearing a pair these on the outside of her clothes.

Edited March 25, 2015 by HumblePi

[MrsRafaelBarba]

The nicknames in this thread are cracking me up.

[Vicky8675309]

I liked it when LisaV accidentally told Kyle she loved her. Their friendship is fun to watch.

[babykin]

Prince Mario-Max was on Millionaire Matchmaker and he was as sleazy as he was last night. He is SO gross.

 

http://www.bravotv.com/the-millionaire-matchmaker/season-5/blogs/the-prince-diary

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYNE7jKOe9Y

[ryebread]

I don't get why everyone else can discuss these two idiots but when Lisa does it she's the worst gossip spreader that ever lived.

 

The one who isn't getting any guff for discussing K & B, from us or them, is Eileen.  Now THAT I don't get.  Although she backed way down since Amsterdam, she tried very hard to interject herself into all the conversations about the terrible twins.  I think Yolanda is getting a pass, from us and them, because she's been so absent.  LIsaV has stayed out of it.  So that only leaves Eileen who is the Untouchable.

 

Her advice, when allowed to get a word in edgewise between Kyle and Rinna, is usually good.  And she doesn't need to litter her advice with hysterics and F bombs - I like that.  But ultimately it was still none of her biz wax.  Especially when she was in the thick of it at LisaV's bday.  But in light of the fact that there was little else talked about from mid to end of the season, I guess I can't blame her.  She just can't sit there and look beautiful and earn 750k

[What Fresh Hell]

 

I saw a brief clip of the upcoming reunion and I can already see that they're all wearing way too much makeup, the skin on their necks looks like a chiffon scarf I have in my bottom drawer that's been there since I had my second child, and they all look as old as they really are but ridiculous looking because they think they look young and hot.  I'm old and I own it, I do my best not to scare young children but I don't try to pretend I'm not over the hill and, nobody looks at old

Oh! I thought they almost all looked really pretty. Brandi's had way too much work done and Kim has aged prematurely but everyone else looks gorgeous, IMO.

[Persnickety1]

I thought I had seen him on MM with Procurement Patti.  Yes, Bravo indeed loves to recycle their people.  This entire season of MM could have just been called Big Pimpin' for Bravo-lebrities since that's pretty much all they showed.  

A footnote about creepy Prince Mario-Max that Camille was face mashing with (ew). Bravo viewers are  being bamboozled as "Prince Max" is not a prince by birth. He was adopted by his stepfather, HD Prince Waldemar of Schaumburg-Lippe, a member of the princely family of Schaumburg-Lippe, whose head is Prince Alexander. Waldemar's adoption does not make Mario a serene highness or a member of the Princely family with succession rights.  In order for Mario to be a member of the princely family,  he would need to be Waldemar's legitimate son. He's not. He's  not a real prince, but he plays one on TV!  His last 'gig' on National television was a guest bachelor on Bravo's Millionaire Matchmaker. Bravo decided to recycle the 'Prince'.  It seems that Prince Mario-Max likes having his photo taken with rich, California women.

 

 

 

I liked it when LisaV accidentally told Kyle she loved her. Their friendship is fun to watch.

 

I enjoy their friendship as well, particularly in Hawaii when they were climbing balconies in their efforts to wake up Kim and Ken.  The situation felt organic and real, and I loved their interactions during that little adventure (especially when Lisa deadpanned "what if we catch them humping" and Kyle was mortified at the thought).

 

I also admired the way Lisa stood her ground in tonight's episode and didn't let herself get sucked into that vortex of Brandi drama.

 

Bravo can be cruel and heartless, but I'm sure if Brandi's father were really in a dire strait that Brandi could have taken time off to be at the hospital.  They let Marisol take time off for Elsa, they let Joyce take off for her father, and I'm sure there are other instances as well.  Which leads me to my next point...  

 

Considering their acrimonious relationship, I found myself wondering more than once during last night's episode if Brandi's dad frankly just didn't want her at the hospital.  Any undue stress brought by Brandi's presence certainly would have been detrimental to his medical issues.

 

I wouldn't consider that possibility under normal conditions, but, well, the relationship between Brandi and her father isn't "normal" by Brandi's own account and, while he loves her, she's made no secret of the fact that he and her do not get along and he has gone for extended periods without even speaking to her.  Not saying who's right and who's wrong, just pointing out that maybe her father was trying to keep extraneous drama to a minimum and chose to not have Brandi there.  

Edited March 25, 2015 by Persnickety1

[njbchlover]

Really? Cuz the first thing I thought was what kind of woman would ever use that disgusting term about another woman. Then I remembered, it wasn't a woman that said it, it was a piece of trash.  

 

Not the first time Brandi has used that word to describe another woman....personally, I HATE that word more than most, but according to Brandi, it's JUST a WORD - and words can't hurt you....unless, of course, the words are aimed towards her.  Maybe she should look at herself first when she says everyone else is a hypocrite??  

[ryebread]

And I don't blame Lisa Rinna one bit for not going there - she's seen how vindictive Kim can be and maybe, just maybe Lisa didn't want a scene at Adrienne's party.

 

I thought LisaR's demeanor when Kim was telling her that she wanted to talk to Kyle alone was like she was itching for a scene.  And I'm pretty sure Yolanda sensed that, too, by the way she was watching and listening to LisaR very carefully - ready to bodily remove her if necessary. LOL  Yolanda was ready to pounce and show us her mad choke hold skillz.

[breezy424]

From Lisa V's blog.  I think she summed up the Lisa R/Brandi conversation very well:

 

In a nutshell, did BG state that Kim needed a intervention? No, I don't know she did. I believe Lisa misinterpreted her saying, "Maybe we all need an intervention" as "Maybe we all need TO DO an intervention." Many other things were said, and it begs the question, was BG's allegiance to Kim? When talking about Kim's fragile state publicly to her friend Jen and then Lisa, I would say not. I know that Lisa left that conversation after many statements from Brandi with the impression that Kim needed help. That was the point...The emphasis should not have dwelt upon one word. I had urged Lisa not to intervene in Kim's sobriety, but she was motivated by her personal history and felt justified in confronting her.

[psychoticstate]

I've said it before but I'll say it again.

 

Dear Kim,

 

Shut your fucking mouth.  I've had enough of you, you beast!

 

Love,

psychoticstate

 

I guess I could add Brandi in there too.  What a fucking mess she is.  Lisa V has more patience than I ever could.  I did snort over Brandi's assertion that her father was better as a person than Lisa V or anyone in the world after hearing about how contentious a relationship they've had.  And if your dad is so much better than everyone in that room, Brandi, why were you there?  I know she has a Bravo contract and all but I would think TPB would understand if someone's parent was truly dying. 

 

I was disappointed that LisaR didn't fully come clean with Kim, because I love LisaR, but I do understand it.  Even if LisaR had repeated word for word what went down with Kyle and at her meal with Brandi, Kim is only going to hear what she wants to.  She had already decided that LisaR was a liar and that was that.  None of this group needs to waste any more time, energy or emotions on that positivity suck otherwise known as Kim.  I say this as someone who used to be a fan of hers but bitch is delusional and completely exhausting and I feel the need to wear a cross and garlic around my neck anytime she shows up on screen. 

 

I too enjoyed the scene of Harry and LisaR.  Add me to the posters who think Harry is even hotter now than his Clash of the Titans days.  Yum.  And while I do think the Hamlin girls are snotty, I thought that scene was pretty authentic.

 

I love Eileen.  Please, Eileen, please come back next season.  I love your wit and I love how you throw it down in a classy way without being afraid of anyone.

 

I rarely stay up to see WWHL but I did last night - - mainly because the finale was a disappointment and I wanted to see what Kyle had to say.  She looked lovely but I felt that she was nowhere near ready to cut Kim off (sadly).  She has been manipulated for so long I don't think she can close that door without her own therapy.

 

Jerry O'Connell was freaking hilarious.  I loved that out of all the housewives, he would choose to smoke pot with Phaedra to find out if Mr. Chocolate was real.  Ha!

[Persnickety1]

Not the first time Brandi has used that word to describe another woman....personally, I HATE that word more than most, but according to Brandi, it's JUST a WORD - and words can't hurt you....unless, of course, the words are aimed towards her.  Maybe she should look at herself first when she says everyone else is a hypocrite??  

 

And it's not the first time Brandi has used this word to describe Kyle.

 

At Brandi's first reunion, I recall Kyle describing an incident where she had texted Brandi an invitation to her Christmas party, and Brandi tried to forward the message to someone else and referred to Kyle as "this cunt"....And rocket scientist that Brandi is, she actually sent Kyle the message instead of (or in addition to) the intended recipient.

 

Brandi didn't deny it.  In fact, I believe she told Kyle again that she was a cunt right there at the reunion.

 

Both Brandi and Kim need a lot of work on their vocabulary and communication skills.  They're both at about age 12 in this area.  

Edited March 25, 2015 by Persnickety1

[ryebread]

Do I think the "real" Camille is season 2 Camille? Hell no. But I think it's somewhere in the middle, though closer to season 1, especially given her friendship with Allison.

 

I think the real Camille is the one posting tweets about how cool Faye Resnick is and how sorry she is that she started the whole Morally Corrupt thing.

[zoeysmom]

Brandi thanked Lisa for her texts and told her she was so sweet last night.  Brandi remarked after the season, and after Rinna was on her podcast, that she and Rinna had gotten along all season and she thought everything was fine between them.  It wasn't until Lisa R was on WWHL and said that Brandi had a drinking problem (more of a "What do you think?' when asked) that Brandi realized that Rinna really didn't like her.  That's when they had a falling out.

 

I think Rinna may have realized that Kyle was making it a much ado about nothing/sinister conversation to drive a wedge between Brandi and Kim more than out of concern for Kim maybe at that moment at the table with Kim.  Could she possibly have a conscience?  And that is why she went over to tell Brandi that she may have caused a problem and let Kim know that their conversation that day came from a good place.  ETA - probably not - she just didn't want Kim and Brandi shrieking at her.

 

Above a poster noted that Lisa R did Brandi a solid by telling Kim that whereas Brandi was ratting Lisa R out by telling Kim about their convo.  Good point.  But Lisa R was IMO really grabbing on to use Kim as her storyline, which I think she did pretty effectively.

 

I also agree that Brandi and Lisa R would be a great duo next season if Brandi would stay sober.  I think they are both more free spirited/fun loving/trashy than the others.  And Kyle is kind of seething right now about Lisa R.  Too bad Brandi got pissed about Rinna's comments about drinking.   

Last night on WWHL it seemed that Lisar and Kyle were close as ever.  Lisar had apologized for going after Kim on Twitter and was tweeting about Kyle's hair and clothes and Kyle thanked her.

[TattleTeeny]

Kim was really together tonight, which, of course, made Kyle nuts.  

 

I saw no evidence of either of these assertions.

[barbedwire]

So I didn't have cable t.v. for a year and didn't watch.  I decided to go ahead and watch this season.  Ugh.  So much fighting!  I like the scenes of the ladies in their homes interacting with their kids but I feel like Yolanda at the dinner scene in Amsterdam : I too just want to move away from them.  Loved the shot of Eileen and the screen saying is now on 2 soaps and it is less drama.  lol

 

Brandi has to go.  So also does Kim.  I have ZERO respect for someone who keeps letting their dog bite people.  Do something about that!!

[msblossom]

I like LisaR, but I think she'll say and do whatever is in her best interest at the time. She's certainly self-deprecating and self aware. She'll apologize and not hold grudges, but it does seem LVP was right about her; LisaR is a people pleaser. She's not completely trustworthy. I liked her better earlier in the season, but I realize this show is like a game of Survivor so I don't really hate her for it. I'm still calling Eileen & LVP the winner and runner up of Survivor bc they stayed true to themselves and didn't back down. Eileen earned her million.

[SistaLadybug]

No one is going after Eileen because Eileen has made it quite clear that she's not having any of their shit.  Kim tried and Eileen didn't do the wine glass thing as LisaR did.  Eileen reared back in all her Ashley Abbott glory and said, "How DARE YOU".  Brandi tried and Eileen calmly told her, "No, I didn't say you're an alcoholic.  I said you're a mean drunk and you are.  I stand by it."  There is no back-and-forth.  There are no tears or outrageous scenes.  She couldn't care less about any of these women and it shows.  When it's clear that someone isn't going to take the bait, she is left alone.

Edited March 25, 2015 by SistaLadybug

[tulip555]

How soap-opera awesome would it have been if Max had burst into the party and announced that Kathy was his biological mother?

LoL.....that is wonderful!!

[msblossom]

Does anyone know what an Emmy winning soap star makes a year? I'm asking bc I hope Eileen feels like it's worth it to come back next season. I'd be surprised if she isn't asked back for Season 8; I'm just not sure she feels it's worth it.

[FozzyBear]

I had a friend with a brain tumor, and she was drinking straight vodka. Someone said something to her about it and she replied "What's it going to do, kill me?" She died a month later. I think if Monty wants to drink, let him. But drinking and taking meds and living with Kim all at the same time....that's a Molotov cocktail waiting to explode.

Unless the person expressing "concern" was a doctor specializing in brain tumors I think the proper response is "fuck off!" Jesus, Web MD is not a medical school people. Not everybody is an expert.

What did Kyle say about Nikki at the book singing? It was something about how she's always had great style so she's on her feet? With a fleet? At a fete?

Edited March 25, 2015 by FozzyBear