Sweet Fellowship: Duggars and Friends (aka the Bates Family and Other Featured Families Thread)

[GeeGolly]

I think the Fundy modesty dress code is ridiculous and oppressive. But I had input about what my children wore when they lived at home. The input wasn't crazy and for the most part they pretty much dressed the same after they moved out, but I'm okay having expectations of 'when living under my roof'.

I'm not fond of facial piercings. One of my kids wanted to pierce her nose. She was over 18. She knew I didn't care for them and asked for my input. I said I wanted her to wait until she was on her own (really I was hoping in time she'd change her mind). She agree to wait. She's in her 30s now with no facial piercings. Yay!

[Temperance]

I've known other people with "in my house my rules". Fundies however are so controlling that they don't want their kids to move out and be independent, particularly their girls. They want the girls to live at home until they get married when they are under the authority of the headship. It might be different if they expected there would be time where the girls would be adults who can make their own decisions, but that time is never. 

Edited January 9, 2020 by Temperance

[Heathen]

"Ski skirts" aren't about modesty at all! It's "look at me, I'm such a righteous Christchun!"

Kelly Bates is so full of shit, she squeaks. 

[BigBingerBro]

Kelly Bates can go suck it.  Keep in mind this is the same women who posted a picture of her sons in soaking wet skin tight t-shirts and jeans after they had been mudding.  Modesty my ass.

[Sew Sumi]

2 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

What's even more ridiculous about the snow skirts is the skirts will ride up with movement and especially being shiny/slippery fabric against shiny/slippery fabric.

Nothing says modesty like seeing someone splayed on the ground with their 'skirt' up around their waist - snow pants or no snow pants.

There's a picture on instastories with her on the ski lift, and the skirt is hiked all the way up to her hips.

[Sew Sumi]

Well, hello Jill. Is that an anklet? How sluttish of you! 

 

 

Edited January 10, 2020 by Sew Sumi

[queenanne]

2 hours ago, Heathen said:

"Ski skirts" aren't about modesty at all! It's "look at me, I'm such a righteous Christchun!"

Kelly Bates is so full of shit, she squeaks. 

Based on what we know of Gothardism and the Wisdumb Booklets, I'm almost positive that "ski skirts" came about "working as double duty in case anyone around starts to suspect that the girls possess a crotch".

[McManda]

1 hour ago, Sew Sumi said:

 

Well, hello Jill. Is that an anklet? How sluttish of you! 

 

Wait, to people so wear anklets? I though that was a trend that died in 2004. But I'm from the north where is mostly to cold to wear anklets, so maybe not.

But I'm pretty sure it was never cool to wear a long sleeved blouse under a sleeveless cocktail dress. 

[sondraK]

1 minute ago, McManda said:

Wait, to people so wear anklets? I though that was a trend that died in 2004. But I'm from the north where is mostly to cold to wear anklets, so maybe not.

But I'm pretty sure it was never cool to wear a long sleeved blouse under a sleeveless cocktail dress. 

But how would people know she's a better Christian.LOL

[Portia]

1 hour ago, Sew Sumi said:

Well, hello Jill. Is that an anklet? How sluttish of you! 

 

 

I don't  exactly know what's going on with the pattern of that dress, but I know an eye trap when I see one. 

[madpsych78]

1 hour ago, Sew Sumi said:

Well, hello Jill. Is that an anklet? How sluttish of you! 

 

 

What the hell is that monstrosity? And her outfit too?

[Oldernowiser]

I do enjoy the words “solid rock” hovering above her head like that...

[Sew Sumi]

1 hour ago, sondraK said:

1 hour ago, McManda said:

Wait, to people so wear anklets? I though that was a trend that died in 2004. But I'm from the north where is mostly to cold to wear anklets, so maybe not.

But I'm pretty sure it was never cool to wear a long sleeved blouse under a sleeveless cocktail dress. 

 

The anklet fad may have died out 15 years ago, but Jill's stuck in the 90's, sooo....

Edited January 10, 2020 by Sew Sumi

[galaxychaser]

Her hair is so Beverly from tv show the Goldbergs.

[Totally]

Does Jill actually think that she looks good?

[Sew Sumi]

3 minutes ago, Totally said:

Does Jill actually think that she looks good?

Apparently. She asked someone (probably Nurie) to take her picture.

[galaxychaser]

I imagine Jill smells like cheap perfume and hair spray. Blech.

[Zahdii]

8 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

The anklet fad may have died out 15 years ago, but Jill's stuck in the 90's, sooo....

Anklets are still done, it's just not as common as they were in the 90's and before.  They're more commonly worn when going barefoot, to kind of dress up the feet when you aren't wearing cute sandals or heels.  I'd never wear one because I wouldn't want to draw attention to my massive (large boned) ankles, but I used to wear a toe ring because I have tiny toes.  I hear they're coming back again.

[FizzyPuff]

7 hours ago, mynextmistake said:

I think it’s ridiculous that the Bates girls actually have to wear them skiing. I feel like somewhere in her quest to be the holiest Gothard housewife Kelly lost the plot a bit. 

Do the oldest Bates girls have to wear a ski skirt too? Anyone who follows gothard must have lost the plot, what a loon. 

[galaxychaser]

Guess Jill’s uterus went to heaven for eternal rest. No pregnancy announcement and the baby is almost 2. 
 

Unless she plans to be pregnant with Nuri at the same time. 
 

Edited January 10, 2020 by galaxychaser

[Barb23]

12 hours ago, Portia said:

I don't  exactly know what's going on with the pattern of that dress, but I know an eye trap when I see one. 

I'm thinking Jill got a push-up bra for Christmas. 

[Picture It. Sicily]

12 hours ago, McManda said:

Wait, to people so wear anklets? I though that was a trend that died in 2004. But I'm from the north where is mostly to cold to wear anklets, so maybe not.

But I'm pretty sure it was never cool to wear a long sleeved blouse under a sleeveless cocktail dress. 

But a nice lightweight cardigan OVER the dress (that matches) would have made too much sense.

Edited January 10, 2020 by Picture It. Sicily

[libgirl2]

2 hours ago, Zahdii said:

Anklets are still done, it's just not as common as they were in the 90's and before.  They're more commonly worn when going barefoot, to kind of dress up the feet when you aren't wearing cute sandals or heels.  I'd never wear one because I wouldn't want to draw attention to my massive (large boned) ankles, but I used to wear a toe ring because I have tiny toes.  I hear they're coming back again.

I still wear them on occasion. I have a pretty one I bought at a RenFaire a few years ago. It has green stones and shamrocks on a silver chain. Its quite pretty. I do toe rings in the summer with sandals every so often. 

[latetotheparty]

2 hours ago, galaxychaser said:

Guess Jill’s uterus went to heaven for eternal rest. No pregnancy announcement and the baby is almost 2. 
 

Unless she plans to be pregnant with Nuri at the same time. 
 

We can only hope Janessa is the last. But it would not surprise me in the least if Jill became pregnant at the same time as Nurie because it ALWAYS has to be about Jill. 

[farmgal4]

11 hours ago, Totally said:

Does Jill actually think that she looks good?

Absolutely, and I’m sure that her brainwashed kids are constantly telling her how blessed they are to have such a beautiful and godly mother. 

[Oldernowiser]

2 hours ago, galaxychaser said:

Unless she plans to be pregnant with Nuri at the same time. 

She probably is determined not to be “big pregnant” 🤮 for her big day. Meaning Nurie’s wedding.

Then she’ll keep Mt. DRod in bed 24/7 until she’s pregnant.

Although perimenopause could explain a few things...

 

[Oldernowiser]

35 minutes ago, farmgal4 said:

Absolutely, and I’m sure that her brainwashed kids are constantly telling her how blessed they are to have such a beautiful and godly mother. 

Or else...

[Albanyguy]

28 minutes ago, Oldernowiser said:

She probably is determined not to be “big pregnant” 🤮 for her big day. Meaning Nurie’s wedding.

Then she’ll keep Mt. DRod in bed 24/7 until she’s pregnant.

She'll probably try to time it so that she can make the big announcement at the wedding.

[BradandJanet]

20 minutes ago, galaxychaser said:

Guess Jill’s uterus went to heaven for eternal rest. No pregnancy announcement and the baby is almost 2. 
 

Unless she plans to be pregnant with Nuri at the same time. 
 

If her uterus had departed this life, she'd be wearing black.

Jill looks like a drag queen in that photo, except drag queens look more put together. She's going to make an interesting grandmother to Nurie's blessings. 

Solid Rock is an evangelical church (not sure that's what the building in the photo is). Wonder if the Rods are on the road again. 

[MargeGunderson]

Jill has clearly taken the idea “the higher the hair the closer to God” to heart.

Also, if she could, she would give birth in front of the altar while Nurie and Nathan are exchanging their vows.

[galaxychaser]

1 hour ago, Oldernowiser said:

Or else...

Give me your teddy bear that I make you get on your 15th birthday . 

[beagletime]

5 hours ago, Picture It. Sicily said:

But a nice lightweight cardigan OVER the dress (that matches) would have made too much sense.

Jill would have looked too much like the rest of us.  I would have worn it with a cardigan. I kind of hate to admit that I like the dress.  It would have looked nice with a cardigan and the black sandals. 

[Temperance]

Anna Marie Hamilton Maxwell, wife of Christopher Maxwell, has been diagnosed with breast cancer! She has a lump in her breast that the doctors have been monitoring. A surgeon decided it was likely cancer. She is currently 36 weeks pregnant with baby #6. She will probably be induced soon so she can fight cancer sooner. She and Chris are asking for prayers. In this case, I can't blame them. 

[crazy8s]

16 hours ago, Oldernowiser said:

I do enjoy the words “solid rock” hovering above her head like that...

I wonder if they might have been at Solid Rock Church North in Lebanon Ohio. It is about 3 hrs from their new home.

Solid Rock South is in Monroe/Cincinnati. I think that is the one along I-75 with the Giant Jesus (touchdown jesus) statue that was struck by lightning and burned.

If the Rods were at the one with the replacement giant Jesus statue we surely would have seen pics.

probably not where they were since women probably wear pants and dresses not from the 80s.

Edited January 10, 2020 by crazy8s
looked at pics of Solid Rock

[BigBingerBro]

3 hours ago, BradandJanet said:

ill looks like a drag queen in that photo

She looks like a drag queen in nearly ever photo she has ever posted!

[Temperance]

I don't think what Jill wants has anything to do with her being pregnant.  I think Jill R is leaving it up to God. If she gets pregnant, she gets pregnant. Women who don't believe in contraception or family planning don't really control when they get pregnant. I think Jill has been heading towards menopause for a while and her fertility has been going down for a long time.  There's almost a three gap year between the last two. If it were up to her, she probably keep having one a year like in her twenties, but she's in her forties now. 

Edited January 10, 2020 by Temperance

[GeeGolly]

1 hour ago, Temperance said:

Anna Marie Hamilton Maxwell, wife of Christopher Maxwell, has been diagnosed with breast cancer! She has a lump in her breast that the doctors have been monitoring. A surgeon decided it was likely cancer. She is currently 36 weeks pregnant with baby #6. She will probably be induced soon so she can fight cancer sooner. She and Chris are asking for prayers. In this case, I can't blame them. 

If my MD told me he decided it was likely cancer, I'd ask for a definitive diagnosis, with test results to prove it, or get a new doctor.

[Temperance]

9 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

If my MD told me he decided it was likely cancer, I'd ask for a definitive diagnosis, with test results to prove it, or get a new doctor.

They are running more tests, but the surgeon says it's likely cancer and she should preparing for that possibly. 

 Here's what they actually said. 

From the Maxwell Family Blog:

"Earlier in the pregnancy, a small lump was discovered that could likely have been due to hormone changes and weaning. Our doctor has been monitoring it and we’ve done some imaging. Over the past weeks, it has been growing rapidly and showing concerning characteristics. These past few days, we’ve consulted with a number of physicians and health experts, and are setting up appointments to consult with more. On Wednesday, a surgeon who reviewed our case and imaging said he has no doubt it is breast cancer. While we are still waiting on pathology and would welcome news to the contrary, it seems 99% sure that we are dealing with an urgent and very serious health issue."

Edited January 10, 2020 by Temperance

[Ohiopirate02]

1 hour ago, BigBingerBro said:

She looks like a drag queen in nearly ever photo she has ever posted!

I agree, but also feel like this is an insult to most drag queens.  Silky Nutmeg Ganache not withstanding. 

[irisheyes]

I'm just glad the Maxwells, for all their abhorrent beliefs and general kookiness, aren't eschewing modern medicine. At least she has a fighting chance. 

[Sew Sumi]

I hope Scamaritan pays for her treatments. 

[lookeyloo]

57 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

I hope Scamaritan pays for her treatments. 

Seriously that is an issue. I’ve written about my son with cancer. His treatment isn’t experimental and he has paid for real health insurance - the best policy he could find - and it is still stressful every single time waiting for each treatment to be precertified. I hate the beliefs of these people but hope she can get what she needs. 

[BigBingerBro]

Does anyone here keep up with the Ardnt family?  They were originally on kids by the Dozen and had umpteen boys and one girl named "Wizzy".  The dad is batshit crazy and the mother wears frosted lip gloss and short skirts.  The oldest of the boys is in his thirties (I think) and none of them are married or even dating.  I always found them rather fascinating.  

[lianau]

On 1/9/2020 at 2:34 AM, 3 is enough said:

Who puts dark red nail polish on a 20 month old?  

Well , Janessa is too young to write pretend essays about how SEVERELY  Mama loves her so she has to pretend paint her nails JUST like Mama . 

[Albanyguy]

3 hours ago, BigBingerBro said:

She looks like a drag queen in nearly ever photo she has ever posted!

I live for the day someone sees her in a ladies' room, assumes she's a man in women's clothing and starts shrieking for the manager to call the police.

[Sew Sumi]

I'll gladly volunteer to be that someone. 😂

[farmgal4]

51 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

I'll gladly volunteer to be that someone. 😂

Okay, and I’ll buy you a steak dinner at Golden Coral for your time and trouble. 😃

[doodlebug]

4 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

If my MD told me he decided it was likely cancer, I'd ask for a definitive diagnosis, with test results to prove it, or get a new doctor.

According to the blog, she's had a biopsy and they're waiting for the final report, but the surgeon who did the biopsy was '99% sure' it was malignant.  I'd trust the surgeon's opinion.  Also, her story of having found a small lump early in the pregnancy that suddenly began growing rapidly is kinda classic for breast cancer, especially those that are hormone receptor positive.  I expect that, once the biopsy is back, she will be induced immediately if it is positive.  If the lump was really that big, she may need radiation and/or chemo before they can do definitive surgery.   Ann Marie has had a lot of back luck healthwise, she could use our prayers.

I also hope they have something better than Samaritan.  Ann Marie has high risk pregnancies and she delivers in the hospital; so I expect they do.  From what I understand, Samaritan spends X number of dollars each month paying claims.  They have some sort of board who reviews the current claims and chooses those that are most worthy, in their opinion.  So, one month they could pay her chemo and the next month have too many applications and decide she's not 'needy' enough.  It's Russian roulette disguise\ as health care.

Edited January 11, 2020 by doodlebug

[Sew Sumi]

@doodlebug, you're confusing Anna Marie with Melanie. The latter has had difficult pregnancies and hospital births. Anna Marie is born to breed and has had home births to date. 

And no, I doubt they have coverage beyond Scamaritan.

[Westiepeach]

1 hour ago, farmgal4 said:

Okay, and I’ll buy you a steak dinner at Golden Coral for your time and trouble. 😃

I sure hope it’s the “good” Golden Coral...