Sweet Fellowship: Duggars and Friends (aka the Bates Family and Other Featured Families Thread)

[Absolom]

23 minutes ago, Jeeves said:

Maybe Nathan resisted her sales pitch enough so that all JillR could get out of him was an order for the merch. 

Hopefully it was a one time purchase just to shut Jill up.

When I posted the post just above appeared.  I really hope they aren't stuck in something like that.

Edited January 24, 2021 by Absolom

[BigBingerBro]

I can't imagine that Nurthan has that much disposible cash to be ordering Plexus on the regular.  I can see Jill conning Nurie into selling it though.

[BradandJanet]

3 minutes ago, BigBingerBro said:

I can't imagine that Nurthan has that much disposible cash to be ordering Plexus on the regular.  I can see Jill conning Nurie into selling it though.

That has to be the goal. Florida is a whole new market for Jill. She doesn't care about Nurie's/Nathan's health or financial situation. Jill only cares about herself and her CASH AWARDS and new year's leaders' trip or cruise or whatever they do. 

[BradandJanet]

On 1/20/2021 at 11:21 AM, iwantcookies said:

Who buys plexus? I don’t get it. I rather drink water than the chemicals.

 

11 hours ago, emmawoodhouse said:

This is what a godly, homeschooling mother of 13 kids spends her time doing: face tuning. Both the nose and the chin lost length and width, and the chipmunk cheeks are gone. The rolls on her neck and the chipped polish need a little more work though. 

[LilJen]

On 1/17/2021 at 2:06 PM, BradandJanet said:

Our memories are longer than theirs. I don't believe the Bateses have been isolating. They almost flaunt their disregard for public safety. 

Tim Rod's podcast touches on Covid. He hints that Christians don't fear the virus while the rest of us hide in terror. He also talks about Covid and our "precious freedoms." I take that to mean the god-given right to hold super-spreader gatherings. When Tim keeps saying he's far from perfect, I agree, except that he doesn't mean it and I do. He's a champion humble bragger like his mother. 

Up yours, Tim (said in a loving and grace-filled manner). This Christian has continued to isolate but also hasn’t missed a day of work  due to ABJECT TERROR BUT is wise enough to take some basic precautions. Use the brain God gave you, ding dong.

[Jenniferbug]

If anyone is interested in podcasts, The Dream is a really well done one whose first season is all about MLMs. The history, why they're not considered illegal pyramid schemes, the manipulation that goes into recruiting, etc but it does so without getting too judgmental about the people who get roped into them. Their 2nd season is about alternative health practices so somewhat tangentially related to Plexus even though I don't think that company is ever specifically addressed. Every time I see Jill's claims about making so much money with Plexus, I think of The Dream. 

I would bet money that Jill is pushing Nurie to sign up to sell under her, and that Nathan suggested they try the products first instead as a compromise. Hopefully he can keep putting her off, but Jill is a force so who knows how long he and Nurie can hold out. 

[Westiepeach]

I have 2 separate thoughts over here. As far as Nurthan goes... Just. Say. No. Back away now before JillRod’s hooks are too deep into you.

And with the TimBit situation. If/when he gets fired over his stupid SM outburst, how long will it take for JillRod to spin it into a “it was very clear that Jesus was leading Timmay to a new direction and he left his health care job. Good luck, Bud!” situation? Because surely none of this nonsense was *their* fault...

[emma675]

27 minutes ago, Jenniferbug said:

If anyone is interested in podcasts, The Dream is a really well done one whose first season is all about MLMs. The history, why they're not considered illegal pyramid schemes, the manipulation that goes into recruiting, etc but it does so without getting too judgmental about the people who get roped into them. Their 2nd season is about alternative health practices so somewhat tangentially related to Plexus even though I don't think that company is ever specifically addressed. Every time I see Jill's claims about making so much money with Plexus, I think of The Dream. 

I would bet money that Jill is pushing Nurie to sign up to sell under her, and that Nathan suggested they try the products first instead as a compromise. Hopefully he can keep putting her off, but Jill is a force so who knows how long he and Nurie can hold out. 

I love The Dream! I am extremely anti-mlm, they prey on vulnerable, often financially challenged people who often end up with more debt and fewer friends. It's a horrible industry and it fits that Jill is part of it. I'm guessing she's grooming Nurthan to be part of her downline, as that is basically the only way to make any money in an mlm.

[Teriacky]

Wow. Jill really needs to get her thyroid checked! 

[Jeeves]

11 minutes ago, emma675 said:

 It's a horrible industry and it fits that Jill is part of it. I'm guessing she's grooming Nurthan to be part of her downline, as that is basically the only way to make any money in an mlm.

I agree. But I can't imagine that Florida isn't already full of Plexus "Ambassadors" who are scrambling and scratching like hell to generate income. And, where will Nurie find prospects to sell Plexus to? At church? I'd think she'd need more than a bit of JillR's pushy nature to have a hope in hell of selling Plexus junk to people. Would she be willing or able to venture out into the general public to push Plexus? I don't know how cloistered the Kellers are. Are they Duggar-like, as in, you hang around with family and have an accountability partner if you leave the house even to grocery shop? Or are they past that foolishness, and even if they aren't, do those rules apply to Nathan and Nurie? 

Nurie seems sweet and until her marriage was totally under her mother's thumb. If Nathan's not by nature so domineering, she could have a chance to blossom a little bit within the limits of their cult. Certainly it seems that Nathan lets her eat better than she did before marriage. We can't really know if he's an abusive asshole in private, but I cherish hope that he is not.

[iwantcookies]

[iwantcookies]

[iwantcookies]

Jill got a crappy plastic bottle worth a $1 and she bragged/posted about it

 

🙄🙄🙄

[ginger90]

 

Idiots

[iwantcookies]

Jill is slipping she didn’t mention her SEVERELY disabled sister Amy by name 

🙄🙄🙄

 

How no one died from COVID a mystery 

[MargeGunderson]

18 hours ago, iwantcookies said:

You know Jill is not selling to them at cost. Parents shouldn’t try to make money off of their children, but I suppose that that’s been Jill and David’s plan from the beginning, so why stop now.

[riverblue22]

     I bet that Nurie started Plexus because she hasn't been able to get pregnant and this is Best Mama's fix for that.

[Chicklet]

Everyone is mask-less at the Severely Quadraplegic Sister's house, and why no nothing bad would ever happen if a quadraplegic woman gets COVID. Because of Reasons! Idiots.

I can't even randomly capitalize on purpose. Jill is insane.

[xwordfanatik]

3 hours ago, iwantcookies said:

How about encouraging people to wear mask, socially distance, and help bring an end to this pandemic, rather than having your precious in-person 'fellowships' and ignoring recommendations from doctors, nurses, and everyone else that is caring for all the Covid patients and witnessing death on a daily basis?

3 hours ago, iwantcookies said:

Jill is slipping she didn’t mention her SEVERELY disabled sister Amy by name 

🙄🙄🙄

 

How no one died from COVID a mystery 

It surely is a mystery.

Edited January 25, 2021 by xwordfanatik
correct a word

[GeeGolly]

You all have to go to JillR's FB page and watch the Plexus unboxing videos.

Plexus porn trigger alert ...

The last two videos. She has to know that it looks like she's vigorously pleasuring that bottle by hand in the second to last one. And the last one, yup Jill and her large mouth are at it again.

Lastly, WTF is she filming in the bathroom? Oh I forgot, because, you know, she's doing Plexus porn.

 

[sondraK]

They could prob. make better money selling Avon.I don't think it's MLM,it's 40% profit of sales,and they could have access to better skin care,make up and health products

[Oldernowiser]

If your big score in MLM is forcing your newly married daughter and son-in-law to buy some of your toxic crap...and then you post about it... I am physically ill with second-hand embarrassment for Jill and her obliviousness.

 

[iwantcookies]

🤮🙄

[farmgal4]

6 hours ago, iwantcookies said:

Sounds exactly like something BestMama would say.  Brainwashing at its finest. 

[sondraK]

Did anyone see the post on another site that said Jackson Duggar has been driven a couple of times to see a Rod girl? I'm not sure I'm allowed to mention the site.Since Jill hasn't mentioned it,it may not be a go,not yet anyway,if it's even true

[GeeGolly]

I just read an article about a random family. The 36 year old mom was pregnant with their 10th child. No mention of their religious affiliation. The article doesn't mention how, but the entire family contracted covid. Mom and dad got more severe symptoms, the dad having pre-existing conditions, but not the mom. They did an emergency C-section and delivered the baby girl at 36(?) weeks. Sadly, mom later died.

IMO, the Duggars, Rods and others increase the risk of something like this happening, with their cavalier attitudes.

Like @iwantcookies said, how has no one become seriously ill or worse?

Because covid was allowed to run amok, there are two new prominent variations of covid circulating. They're thinking the strain circulating in Africa is more contagious and more deadly.

[floridamom]

I still think Nurie hasn't conceived because she is underweight.

[GeeGolly]

28 minutes ago, floridamom said:

I still think Nurie hasn't conceived because she is underweight.

It could be due to her health, including malnutrition and lack of periods, but I don't think being thin alone is the cause. I'm 5'4" and weighed less than 100lbs and had no trouble conceiving.

[Albanyguy]

8 hours ago, sondraK said:

Did anyone see the post on another site that said Jackson Duggar has been driven a couple of times to see a Rod girl? I'm not sure I'm allowed to mention the site.Since Jill hasn't mentioned it,it may not be a go,not yet anyway,if it's even true

I can't believe Jim Bob would allow that. 

[Trillium]

4 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

It could be due to her health, including malnutrition and lack of periods, but I don't think being thin alone is the cause. I'm 5'4" and weighed less than 100lbs and had no trouble conceiving.

Lack of basic reproductive knowledge doesn’t help. I’m sure all she knows is sex = babies if Jesus says ok. I get this information is easily available but given how she was raised I can see her being too fearful to even Google, lest she stumble onto porn. 

[louannems]

17 hours ago, iwantcookies said:

I counted 26 exclamation points!!!!

[galaxygirl76]

40 minutes ago, Albanyguy said:

I can't believe Jim Bob would allow that. 

For a man as fond of money as Boob is he has to know how batcrap crazy and what a leech Jill is. If anything Anna may be able to tell them that too if she communicates with her brother at all.

 

eta, the power play between those two could be really fun for us to watch play out though.

Edited January 25, 2021 by galaxygirl76

[laurakaye]

17 minutes ago, louannems said:

I counted 26 exclamation points!!!!

That, plus a lack of "well," points to this not being written by Tim at all....

[doodlebug]

10 minutes ago, galaxygirl76 said:

For a man as fond of money as Boob is he has to know how batcrap crazy and what a leech Jill is. If anything Anna may be able to tell them that too if she communicates with her brother at all.

 

eta, the power play between those two could be really fun for us to watch play out though.

JB would have Jill for lunch.  He's a big league mooch and suckup; she's merely an amateur to him.

[Absolom]

4 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

It could be due to her health, including malnutrition and lack of periods, but I don't think being thin alone is the cause. I'm 5'4" and weighed less than 100lbs and had no trouble conceiving.

Same here.  She doesn't look as thin as I was when I conceived two of my kids.  Although the quality of her previous diet could affect things.  It could be, horror of horrors, that Nathan due to some of his siblings knows you don't have to have a dozen or more kids and don't have to have a pregnancy your first six months of marriage.

[doodlebug]

Just now, Absolom said:

Same here.  She doesn't look as thin as I was when I conceived two of my kids.  Although the quality of her previous diet could affect things.  It could be, horror of horrors, that Nathan due to some of his siblings knows you don't have to have a dozen or more kids and don't have to have a pregnancy your first six months of marriage.

There are some very thin people, even ones with eating disorders, who still ovulate and can get pregnant.  I have had more than a couple of women who were battling ongoing eating disorders, severely underweight, and still managed to get pregnant.  Taking care of a woman who bursts into tears when she finds out she's gained a pound in a month of pregnancy is no fun.  One of the women actually ended up in liver failure a couple years later and needed a transplant due to years of depriving her body of nutrition.  Body fat is part of the equation, but it isn't the whole thing.

[3 is enough]

Jackson?  He's only 16 and an extremely immature 16 at that.  I can't see it.  Kaylee and Renee are too old and Tessie is not even 14 yet.

Also, somehow I can't see Jim Bob wanting anything to do with the Rods.

But stranger things have happened, I guess.  I never say never with these people because I have been proven wrong too many times.

Edited January 25, 2021 by 3 is enough

[CouchTater]

19 hours ago, iwantcookies said:

Jill is slipping she didn’t mention her SEVERELY disabled sister Amy by name 

🙄🙄🙄

 

How no one died from COVID a mystery 

My late brother's first grandchild, Hunter, was born exactly 5 months ago today, 8/25.  I still haven't met him, and he only lives 1 county over from me.  And it hurts my heart.

Yet these yahoos' lives haven't been impacted at all, seemingly.  While the rest of have been SEVERELY impacted.  Like many here have said, I don't wish any illness on anyone, exactly, but I wouldn't be torn up if certain people were visited by COVID-19.  Ugh.

[sondraK]

6 hours ago, Albanyguy said:

I can't believe Jim Bob would allow that. 

I hope he doesn't!

[sondraK]

I still see some of the Rod kids pairing up with some of John Shrader's kids in the future.John is an excellent grifter,and I can see him grifting a house or three when he gets back from Africa.He and Jill have cornered the market on grifting

[Temperance]

A couple with both people under 35 would need to go a whole year before they are diagnosed with infertility. Nurie and Nathan have been married 6 months. It's still too soon to call infertility.

I also think she could be pregnant and her mother doesn't want to announce it. Jill wants to be pregnant and not a grandmother. 

13 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I just read an article about a random family. The 36 year old mom was pregnant with their 10th child. No mention of their religious affiliation. The article doesn't mention how, but the entire family contracted covid. Mom and dad got more severe symptoms, the dad having pre-existing conditions, but not the mom. They did an emergency C-section and delivered the baby girl at 36(?) weeks. Sadly, mom later died.

IMO, the Duggars, Rods and others increase the risk of something like this happening, with their cavalier attitudes.

Like @iwantcookies said, how has no one become seriously ill or worse?

Because covid was allowed to run amok, there are two new prominent variations of covid circulating. They're thinking the strain circulating in Africa is more contagious and more deadly.

Could you find that article? I would be interested in seeing it. 

[ginger90]

14 minutes ago, Temperance said:

Could you find that article? I would be interested in seeing it. 

I’m not sure this is the exact article, there are many:

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/people.com/human-interest/mom-of-10-dies-covid-week-after-emergency-c-section-deliver-baby/%3famp=true

Edited January 25, 2021 by ginger90

[GeeGolly]

1 minute ago, ginger90 said:

I’m sure this is it:

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/people.com/human-interest/mom-of-10-dies-covid-week-after-emergency-c-section-deliver-baby/%3famp=true

Was just coming to link it. That's it!

[Temperance]

1 minute ago, ginger90 said:

I’m sure this is it:

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/people.com/human-interest/mom-of-10-dies-covid-week-after-emergency-c-section-deliver-baby/%3famp=true

Very sad! 

Thank You @GeeGolly and @ginger90!

[iwantcookies]

45 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

I’m not sure this is the exact article, there are many:

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/people.com/human-interest/mom-of-10-dies-covid-week-after-emergency-c-section-deliver-baby/%3famp=true

Those poor kids. 

[zoomama]

On 1/23/2021 at 10:56 AM, Quof said:

It's better than people who type like f*cking ee cummings because they can't be bothered to hit the shift key.

you talking about me now????   🤪

[sheshark]

On 1/24/2021 at 5:19 PM, iwantcookies said:

Jill got a crappy plastic bottle worth a $1 and she bragged/posted about it

 

🙄🙄🙄

Why can’t I find this on her Facebook?  Did she remove the sex-laden bottle porn vids?

[doodlebug]

1 hour ago, Temperance said:

A couple with both people under 35 would need to go a whole year before they are diagnosed with infertility. Nurie and Nathan have been married 6 months. It's still too soon to call infertility.

 

While the technical definition of infertility in a couple under 35; most doctors would start to evaluate after 3-6 months if there was some obvious problem like a woman who does not have regular periods.  I just spoke to someone today who is 25 and has been trying for 6 mos but has only had 2 periods in that time.  I think she has polycystic ovaries and we're doing the bloodwork now.  I tell my patients with PCOS to let me know if they try for 3 mos without success.  There's not a lot of reason to wait a year if there is an obvious issue.  I work with someone who received chemotherapy and a bone marrow transplant for leukemia as a teen.  Her periods are sporadic.  She saw a fertility specialist even before she got married and knew what she was facing.  Probably the first wedding I ever attended that the couple asked for money instead of gifts that didn't feel tacky.  She knew she could need as much as 30 grand for an egg donor and IVF and, so, that's what they wanted.  They've been married 2 years and she is 6 months pregnant having hit the jackpot first time out with IVF and a donor egg.

If Nurie isn't ovulating because she is underweight, most doctors would go ahead and work her up and start treating it.

[GeeGolly]

17 minutes ago, sheshark said:

Why can’t I find this on her Facebook?  Did she remove the sex-laden bottle porn vids?

I just checked. It appears that she removed them.

She must read here daily.

[Temperance]

4 minutes ago, doodlebug said:

While the technical definition of infertility in a couple under 35; most doctors would start to evaluate after 3-6 months if there was some obvious problem like a woman who does not have regular periods.  I just spoke to someone today who is 25 and has been trying for 6 mos but has only had 2 periods in that time.  I think she has polycystic ovaries and we're doing the bloodwork now.  I tell my patients with PCOS to let me know if they try for 3 mos without success.  There's not a lot of reason to wait a year if there is an obvious issue.  I work with someone who received chemotherapy and a bone marrow transplant for leukemia as a teen.  Her periods are sporadic.  She saw a fertility specialist even before she got married and knew what she was facing.  Probably the first wedding I ever attended that the couple asked for money instead of gifts that didn't feel tacky.  She knew she could need as much as 30 grand for an egg donor and IVF and, so, that's what they wanted.  They've been married 2 years and she is 6 months pregnant having hit the jackpot first time out with IVF and a donor egg.

If Nurie isn't ovulating because she is underweight, most doctors would go ahead and work her up and start treating it.

We don't know that Nurie has obvious problems. For all we know, Nurie could be pregnant. I don't think there will be an immediate announcement, because Jill is hoping to be pregnant and has mixed emotions about becoming a grandmother.

Also I never asking for cash is tacky. It's a class/generational take maybe, but I have no problem with people saying they prefer cash.